I’m guessing this will upset some, but think about it. If you have this pick, you want what Gettleman has been stating. A HoF type player. Nelson maybe just that, however at #2-5 a guard is not the right play. You need a position that if the game is on the line he will take it over and push the team to victory. QB, RB, WR, LB, DE are those positions. Maybe OT but not a guard. The way this draft is set up only QB, RB, DE are in play to be that type of player. Looking back on past Giants history only QB and DE/LB would even be considered. My guess is the QB class isn’t showing enough to take the helm from Eli, so that leaves LB or DE. Now throw in Barkley and this becomes a 2 person draft at the 2 spot. Chubb or Barkley. Each of these guys might not have the value (today) as say a Clowney or a Faulk type player.
Both of these guys can be just that though. And the QBs could also. This draft is much different that I have seen in a very long time. A lot of wow type player but are they the clear #1 or #2 player to impact your team for many years?
With all this in mind, I believe we trade down, but not out of the top 5. With 3-4 guys that all can step in a play some serious football, a new GM with a much needed team facelift, the value we can get for moving back 3 pick would be unseen by any of us giant faithful. Multiple 1-3 round picks on our hands could help restore what giant football is all about. Exciting times after a most embarrassing season.
This ^^^
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Barkley NO MATTER WHAT!!!
Amen to that
Can there just be a “hypothetical draft guessing” thread and it can remain on the top and the strays get deleted
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I am curious of Kyle Luletta. I have read on BBI that the Giants asked for a scouting report on him. Maybe the plan migh be to trade back, get Nelson in round 1, load up on picks and get Lauletta in rounds 2-3.
Does an NFL team have to draft their QB of the future in round 1? Did Rosen prove he is a can't miss product? Darnold? With all their INT's?
People keep saying to look at the game video to see what you need to see. Barkley is an unreal talent. He can do it all. He is high character. He would help in the run game, passing game and special teams. Fast, strong, athletic, humble, good teammate. Strong character.
Nelson is by far as solid a college player as you could ever find. And he is a Giants fan to boot. He is very strong and a martial arts enthusiast. He would step right in day one and start at either guard position.
It could go:
QB
QB
QB
Barkley
Leaving Nelson...Fitz?...Chubb?...MrX...?
Or you could reverse the 1 & 4(doubtful).
Or Browns take Nelson @ 4, leaving us Barkley(doubtful).
Or, Browns screw up everything and do not take a QB(is TTaylor really their day 1> starter?)Highly doubtful with their new sheriff.
I never understand this “can’t draft a whatever at pick whatever”. It makes no sense.
If you knew Ray Guy was going to be Ray Guy, would you pick him at 2? Or 3? Or 4? Or 5?
It’s just dumb.
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trade with Denver and end up at 5 it's almost a certainty we pick Nelson
It could go:
QB
QB
QB
Barkley
Leaving Nelson...Fitz?...Chubb?...MrX...?
Or you could reverse the 1 & 4(doubtful).
Or Browns take Nelson @ 4, leaving us Barkley(doubtful).
Or, Browns screw up everything and do not take a QB(is TTaylor really their day 1> starter?)Highly doubtful with their new sheriff.
I've seen talk on Browns forums where there seems to be a lot of interest by the Browns in Chubb at 4, and getting another RB at the top of Rd 2.
Crazy but possible Barkley is there at 5.
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This.
I never understand this “can’t draft a whatever at pick whatever”. It makes no sense.
If you knew Ray Guy was going to be Ray Guy, would you pick him at 2? Or 3? Or 4? Or 5?
It’s just dumb.
Worst case scenario, if we have to "settle" for Nelson or Barkley, it would be a great pick as they seem to have great leadership and intangibles, and this is vital, especially for us as it seems OBJ and JPP are our leaders for the foreseeable future. That's terrible, the previous regime left us with a broken chickensh*t outfit culture.