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Giants will not take Nelson with pick 2-5

Sand_TheWedge : 3/17/2018 8:55 pm
I’m guessing this will upset some, but think about it. If you have this pick, you want what Gettleman has been stating. A HoF type player. Nelson maybe just that, however at #2-5 a guard is not the right play. You need a position that if the game is on the line he will take it over and push the team to victory. QB, RB, WR, LB, DE are those positions. Maybe OT but not a guard. The way this draft is set up only QB, RB, DE are in play to be that type of player. Looking back on past Giants history only QB and DE/LB would even be considered. My guess is the QB class isn’t showing enough to take the helm from Eli, so that leaves LB or DE. Now throw in Barkley and this becomes a 2 person draft at the 2 spot. Chubb or Barkley. Each of these guys might not have the value (today) as say a Clowney or a Faulk type player.

Both of these guys can be just that though. And the QBs could also. This draft is much different that I have seen in a very long time. A lot of wow type player but are they the clear #1 or #2 player to impact your team for many years?

With all this in mind, I believe we trade down, but not out of the top 5. With 3-4 guys that all can step in a play some serious football, a new GM with a much needed team facelift, the value we can get for moving back 3 pick would be unseen by any of us giant faithful. Multiple 1-3 round picks on our hands could help restore what giant football is all about. Exciting times after a most embarrassing season.
The Jets  
Marty866b : 3/17/2018 9:03 pm : link
Would disagree with your evaluation of the quarterbacks. I believe there will be more movement into the top of the draft to secure these quarterbacks that you believe the Giants don't think worth enough.
Well, I guess that's it. I'll shut down the threads.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/17/2018 9:08 pm : link
;)
In my opinion,  
chiro56 : 3/17/2018 9:15 pm : link
This draft will turn out more great qbs then any other recent draft. This is the class many gms have been waiting for. The Giants could not have planned it better. If they had to suck, they picked the right year to tank. Everything has lined up , including the fact that Eli is 38.
RE: In my opinion,  
Hammer : 3/17/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13872006 chiro56 said:
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This draft will turn out more great qbs then any other recent draft. This is the class many gms have been waiting for. The Giants could not have planned it better. If they had to suck, they picked the right year to tank. Everything has lined up , including the fact that Eli is 38.


This ^^^
MAKE IT STOP  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/17/2018 9:19 pm : link
Can we get ONE thread for everyone that has a synaptic misfire of a thought about the draft?
Nobody ...  
short lease : 3/17/2018 9:31 pm : link

knows anything.
Gettleman tell you this personally?  
The_Boss : 3/17/2018 9:36 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 3/17/2018 9:36 pm : link
webb is the future!!!!

Barkley NO MATTER WHAT!!!
RE: MAKE IT STOP  
giantsFC : 3/17/2018 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13872010 BigBlue4You09 said:
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Can we get ONE thread for everyone that has a synaptic misfire of a thought about the draft?


Amen to that

Can there just be a “hypothetical draft guessing” thread and it can remain on the top and the strays get deleted
Sand wedge  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/17/2018 9:44 pm : link
Let me guess, are you Jerry Reese or Mark Ross?

If you haven't noticed, there's a new sheriff in town and he likes his Hog Mollies.
RE: MAKE IT STOP  
Sand_TheWedge : 3/17/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13872010 BigBlue4You09 said:
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Can we get ONE thread for everyone that has a synaptic misfire of a thought about the draft?


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RE: RE: MAKE IT STOP  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/17/2018 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13872044 Sand_TheWedge said:
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In comment 13872010 BigBlue4You09 said:


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Can we get ONE thread for everyone that has a synaptic misfire of a thought about the draft?



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Ironically, you are NO asshat!


Nelson is more of a right guard like Chris Snee was.  
Ira : 3/17/2018 10:08 pm : link
He's great at straight ahead blocking, but, IMO, he doesn't look good when he pulls. The guy we signed - Omaneh - is like that too. I think we should be looking for a guard who's quicker and more athletic to play left guard and then move Omaneh to the right side.
This is a very interesting draft  
Rjanyg : 3/17/2018 10:24 pm : link
So many young QB's and all are pretty different. No clear cut number 1 but a couple of NFL QB's. I think Rosen will be a very good one, Darnold I think will take some years to be a quality QB. He needs to protect the ball much better than he has in order to succeed. Mayfield is a heady competitor but his height is the main thing that teams will be worried about. Allen is the most intriguing player. I think Rudolph is a guy who might surprise. He throws a nice ball.

I am curious of Kyle Luletta. I have read on BBI that the Giants asked for a scouting report on him. Maybe the plan migh be to trade back, get Nelson in round 1, load up on picks and get Lauletta in rounds 2-3.

Does an NFL team have to draft their QB of the future in round 1? Did Rosen prove he is a can't miss product? Darnold? With all their INT's?

People keep saying to look at the game video to see what you need to see. Barkley is an unreal talent. He can do it all. He is high character. He would help in the run game, passing game and special teams. Fast, strong, athletic, humble, good teammate. Strong character.

Nelson is by far as solid a college player as you could ever find. And he is a Giants fan to boot. He is very strong and a martial arts enthusiast. He would step right in day one and start at either guard position.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/17/2018 10:40 pm : link
It's amazing how some folks talk in absolutes. The Giants could absolutely take Nelson with a top five pick. Or they might not. But to say you know what they will or won't do is absurd. (Well except that we know they won't draft a punter or fullback). ;)
If Giants  
Mr. Nickels : 3/17/2018 11:04 pm : link
trade with Denver and end up at 5 it's almost a certainty we pick Nelson
I just watched an entire  
Motley Two : 3/17/2018 11:11 pm : link
season of Giants football with the games constantly on the line or the Giants not within shouting distance of that, largely due to the fact that they didn't have a line. It sucked.
I hope you get  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/17/2018 11:27 pm : link
An incurable case of the shanks!
Enough  
nygnyy274 : 3/17/2018 11:37 pm : link
With Chubb they are not taking this guy
RE: If Giants  
old man : 3/18/2018 12:48 am : link
In comment 13872112 Mr. Nickels said:
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trade with Denver and end up at 5 it's almost a certainty we pick Nelson

It could go:
QB
QB
QB
Barkley
Leaving Nelson...Fitz?...Chubb?...MrX...?
Or you could reverse the 1 & 4(doubtful).
Or Browns take Nelson @ 4, leaving us Barkley(doubtful).
Or, Browns screw up everything and do not take a QB(is TTaylor really their day 1> starter?)Highly doubtful with their new sheriff.
Just exactly what is the magic number  
ij_reilly : 3/18/2018 12:55 am : link
For drafting a guard? Is it okay to draft a guard at 6?

I never understand this “can’t draft a whatever at pick whatever”. It makes no sense.

If you knew Ray Guy was going to be Ray Guy, would you pick him at 2? Or 3? Or 4? Or 5?

It’s just dumb.
RE: RE: If Giants  
Eman11 : 3/18/2018 12:59 am : link
In comment 13872165 old man said:
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In comment 13872112 Mr. Nickels said:


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trade with Denver and end up at 5 it's almost a certainty we pick Nelson


It could go:
QB
QB
QB
Barkley
Leaving Nelson...Fitz?...Chubb?...MrX...?
Or you could reverse the 1 & 4(doubtful).
Or Browns take Nelson @ 4, leaving us Barkley(doubtful).
Or, Browns screw up everything and do not take a QB(is TTaylor really their day 1> starter?)Highly doubtful with their new sheriff.


I've seen talk on Browns forums where there seems to be a lot of interest by the Browns in Chubb at 4, and getting another RB at the top of Rd 2.

Crazy but possible Barkley is there at 5.
RE: Nobody ...  
djm : 3/18/2018 1:15 am : link
In comment 13872026 short lease said:
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knows anything.


This.
They’d take Nelson over Chubb at 5  
jeff57 : 3/18/2018 6:03 am : link
More likely they would take Edmunds over Nelson than Chubb.
Not a single person on this board  
Mike from Ohio : 3/18/2018 8:00 am : link
knows who the Giants will or won't take in the draft. Each time I see a post with a definitive statement like that all it says is that you don't pay much attention to the NFL.
RE: Just exactly what is the magic number  
Sand_TheWedge : 3/18/2018 8:05 am : link
In comment 13872170 ij_reilly said:
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For drafting a guard? Is it okay to draft a guard at 6?

I never understand this “can’t draft a whatever at pick whatever”. It makes no sense.

If you knew Ray Guy was going to be Ray Guy, would you pick him at 2? Or 3? Or 4? Or 5?

It’s just dumb.
what do you need to understand? A guard at 2 is mistake when there are plenty of QBs a RB and DE to chose from. Will Hernandez cold be just as good as Nelson when it’s all said and done. How do you know Nelson will be that much better? You don’t hence the upcoming draft.
I don’t think we will personally  
eli4life : 3/18/2018 8:32 am : link
But with the salaries of top notch guards surpassing 13 million its not out of the question either
Take the QB you love  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/18/2018 8:40 am : link
At 2, no question. For example, you dont get a chance to draft a 6'5" QB who runs a 4.7 40 and can throw the football at 70 mph every year.

Worst case scenario, if we have to "settle" for Nelson or Barkley, it would be a great pick as they seem to have great leadership and intangibles, and this is vital, especially for us as it seems OBJ and JPP are our leaders for the foreseeable future. That's terrible, the previous regime left us with a broken chickensh*t outfit culture.
Agreed  
I love liverwurst : 3/18/2018 9:28 am : link
If we stay at 2, it should be a qb (if they like one) or Chubb. End of story
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