NFT: Mets Jason Vargas

Montero has nothing. He sucks.

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Mets should re-name the franchise to the NY Snafus.

SNAFU: Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.

than later I guess.

Montero has another chance.

Montero that he can either start attacking hitters and maybe be a useful major leaguer, or to keep nibbling and be DFA'd?

In comment 13872878 Rob in Rockaway said:

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Montero that he can either start attacking hitters and maybe be a useful major leaguer, or to keep nibbling and be DFA'd?

Seems like a good pitching coach could get him to understand that. Is it that he is just to dumb to listen to them or just too scared when on the mound?

for Syndergaard.

Lugo and Gsellman each pitched an inning afterwards.

With Vargas out, does that point to

Syndegaard
deGrom
Harvey
Wheeler
Matz as the rotation?

In comment 13873004 jpkmets said:

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for Syndergaard. Lugo and Gsellman each pitched an inning afterwards. With Vargas out, does that point to Syndegaard deGrom Harvey Wheeler Matz as the rotation?

I think so.

Matz wins the distinction of being the tallest midget because he�s a lefty. He will be in the rotation by default because of the Vargas injury.

Wheeler sucks and should not sniff the rotation. I�d rather have Lugo or Gsellman over Wheeler because they are both better.

In comment 13873004 jpkmets said:

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for Syndergaard. Lugo and Gsellman each pitched an inning afterwards. With Vargas out, does that point to Syndegaard deGrom Harvey Wheeler Matz as the rotation?

Yep sounds like the band is back together for one more attempt at harmony. Who would have guessed?

Wasn�t Vargas signed as a pm inning eater? Lolz. Only he mets always get this wrong.

In comment 13873004 jpkmets said:

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. Lugo and Gsellman each pitched an inning afterwards.

In comment 13873139 Shecky said:

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In comment 13873004 jpkmets said: Quote: . Lugo and Gsellman each pitched an inning afterwards.

Is there more to this selective repost?

They rank deGrom and Thor #1.
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I fully expect him to throw a perfect game, or at least a no no, this season. Early season favorite for Cy Young and MVP. Well, if Plaw doesn�t steal too many votes from him of course.

if degrom and Thor both make the ASG

Thor staying healthy is obviously the key - he's one of the best pitchers in the entire sport, which goes without saying.

ERA can be a bit misleading, I typically look at FIP.

In 2016, Thor led the majors with a 2.29 FIP and last year before he got hurt, his FIP was @ 1.31

The guy has stuff as good as anyone in the sport.

deGrom looked filthy on Friday - he had a good year last year, but not by his standards. Hoping to see him regain his 2015 form this year. If he does, our 1-2 at the top can absolutely be as good as any in baseball.

But when you do finally get a Thor unveiling, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

and it's only because the reliable free agent they brought in got hurt. Hopefully Wheeler and Matz are energized and use this audition to show they belong at the major league level.

Nice to see Nimmo continuing his good spring. Really looking forward to seeing him get a look at the top of the order. Tda looks like he has quietly had a pretty good spring too.

Hard to believe opening day is only about 10 days away.

In comment 13873328 Shecky said:

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But when you do finally get a Thor unveiling, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

LOL, they have no choice that day because I'll be there in person.

There are two guys I think can surprise people this year...

Nimmo and Plawecki.

Well, Plawecki wouldn't surprise Shecky.. but I can see some of the reason for the optimism now. Very nice spring.

I want guys who can hit for average. I'm not worried about power. Between Cespedes, Frazier, Bruce, and eventually Conforto - I think we have enough pop.

If Nimmo can be a bit of a spark at the top of the order, I think it'll make a huge difference. He got on base at a solid clip last year - he's shown a little pop this spring and his OPS is close to 1.000 in 15 spring games (SSS, yes)

The Mets need a couple of guys to surprise and outperform their projections by a good margin and I think those are two guys who can do it.

I still think this team is going to have a bit of a tough year. There are teams that can sustain a couple bad breaks and injuries and still contend - the Mets are the type of team that needs everything to break right along with good injury luck to stay in the race. I just hate having a team that is dependent on good fortune - it rarely seems to work out.

But hey - we're getting close. We'll see soon enough.

In comment 13873358 Eric on Li said:

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and it's only because the reliable free agent they brought in got hurt. Hopefully Wheeler and Matz are energized and use this audition to show they belong at the major league level. Nice to see Nimmo continuing his good spring. Really looking forward to seeing him get a look at the top of the order. Tda looks like he has quietly had a pretty good spring too. Hard to believe opening day is only about 10 days away.

Nimmo is really easy to root for. I like him as well. Maybe he can be the next Mookie. My all time fave positional player

He could win a GG in LF, the silver slugger, even contend for MVP. Or like the last 2 years he could be plagued by injuries. Really need him to have a strong opening month to get things going while they wait for Conforto's return. I don't want to say it's all on him, but I think any of us could make a pretty good guess at their overall record this year if we somehow knew what Cespedes final stat line was. If he has a big year they will be in the playoff race. If not, it's hard to see how that's possible.

In comment 13873366 giantsFC said:

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In comment 13873358 Eric on Li said: Quote: and it's only because the reliable free agent they brought in got hurt. Hopefully Wheeler and Matz are energized and use this audition to show they belong at the major league level. Nice to see Nimmo continuing his good spring. Really looking forward to seeing him get a look at the top of the order. Tda looks like he has quietly had a pretty good spring too. Hard to believe opening day is only about 10 days away. Nimmo is really easy to root for. I like him as well. Maybe he can be the next Mookie. My all time fave positional player

Yea he seems like a good guy and a grinder. I've always kind of hoped he could turn himself into Darin Erstad (minus the 1 insane year). Draw walks, hit for a respectable average with about 15 homers and 15 steals, and bring some all around hustle/toughness. He was a solid top of the order guy for a bunch of years.

Not often mentioned and also underrated.

Brian Macrae is another thst comes to mind.

In comment 13873369 Eric on Li said:

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He could win a GG in LF, the silver slugger, even contend for MVP. Or like the last 2 years he could be plagued by injuries. Really need him to have a strong opening month to get things going while they wait for Conforto's return. I don't want to say it's all on him, but I think any of us could make a pretty good guess at their overall record this year if we somehow knew what Cespedes final stat line was. If he has a big year they will be in the playoff race. If not, it's hard to see how that's possible.

Agreed, I loved Cespedes...even when I realized he was a bit soft and possibly a diva. .
Though unless 4 of the 8 starters in the pitching staff remain healthy nothing may matter.

Yep - Cespedes is our superstar hitter. I think Conforto and Rosario have huge ceilings as well - but Cespedes is the guy who has proven that he can be an upper-echelon hitter in this league when he's on his game.

The guy just has to stop getting banged up.

I'm glad he's not training like a bodybuilder anymore - but it's alarming that he still managed to need a cortisone shot before the season even started.

He's now had... hamstring, quad, shoulder AND wrist issues.

And all of these things have happened here, as a Met. Which hasn't been terribly long. 2 and a half seasons.

The Mets desperately need Ces to play 140+ this year. Healthy Yo changes the look of the lineup. Without him, it's very pedestrian and won't scare many pitchers.

For better or worse - we're in a position where we have to hope for good health in order to have a competitive season. And if you're a Mets fan, that's pretty frightening!

equally as frustrating with the injuries. Really hope he can put a full season (140 starts) together.

He makes a huge difference in the lineup and there is very little margin for error on the offensive side of the ball.

The obvious road to the playoffs =

Thor and deG 35 starts each pitching to their potential.

One of Harvey, Matz or Wheeler pitching like a no. 3 or better.

Cespedes staying healthy

Conforto returning and picking up where he left off.

That's asking a lot to go right for a team that doesn't have good injury fortune.

But, I'd rather it be health questions than talent questions.

Such a wide range out outcomes for this squad. could win 90+, could lose 90+.

Is settling quite nicely, really nice to see!! Plaw needs to fix his throwing right now though.

�I was kind of glad Gsellman had to come into a one-run game and pitch the ninth with something on the line,� Callaway said. �And then he got a man on third and upped it even more. He was walking off the field and said, �I love that.� That got me going.�

The catchers will revert to the backs of their baseball cards once the reak games begin

In comment 13873797 spike said:

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once the reak games begin

This may be the all time misspelling in the history of BBI. It�s awesome!!!

REEK!

but I think this is a really interesting new BP theory. This type of once in a while, extended relief appearance role for Lugo and Gsellman could really fit them perfectly. Keep them to once through the heart of the order and give almost the entire BP a full night off once or twice a week. Plus you have spot starters up with the club whenever you need them.
Hybrid Theory: How the Mets could use starters to bolster their bullpen - ( New Window )

Verlander pitching better
But not one Mets fan cares

In comment 13873915 spike said:

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REEK!

Theon?

Against the WS champs lineup no less. The pitching is bouncing back this year big time. I almost wish we didn�t sign Vargas. Now can we hit? Mickey is allergic to starting the whole lineup together in the spring apparently.

By plaw

Plaw getting the message :)

Looked arlight!

will be having surgery. I feel this will add 2 weeks to his RTP. So our innings eater will miss at least one regular season month of eating innings.

To me, Montero is the poor man's Jason Vargas (if there is such a thing) and too valuable to cut right now.

He likely only misses one start at best unless Wheeler does enough to take his spot permanently which I doubt. Harvey and Matz are locks.

But I want to see the 5 horseman together one time through a rotation dammit. Lol. The buildup has been forever!

In comment 13874576 ZGiants98 said:

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He likely only misses one start at best unless Wheeler does enough to take his spot permanently which I doubt. Harvey and Matz are locks.

The good thing about being a pitcher and an injury on a non-throwing hand. It's not like he needs to practice AB's.

In comment 13874581 ZGiants98 said:

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But I want to see the 5 horseman together one time through a rotation dammit. Lol. The buildup has been forever!

Agreed.

Finally reach expectations, this lineup could be formidable.

He is probably better than the corpse we have at first base.

The Rangers just picked him up from the Phils

But I just dont think any really offer more than the upside AGone and Smith provide. At this point, AGone needs reps to get ready for the season and Smith does too if he ever gets healthy. If the plan was to go with them then you might as well ride it out a little longer because 15 spring training games or so isnt really going to tell us anything. It would have been nice if it was a real competition but Smith's injury ruined that. Now Smith has to go to Vegas and start his spring training virtually from scratch and we'll see what AGone has left when the games start for real. Worst case scenario, we still have options in place like Bruce, Flores, and eventually TJ Rivera if everything completely bombed.

I'm content riding it out for a little longer.

But Cespedes was back in the lineup and got a hit... Matz pitched his best outing of the spring against a A++ lineup... Real good stuff..

For some reason Callaway had to keep Rosario and Nimmo out of the lineup today. He is isnt going to play the full lineup together until opening day apparently. lol.

1.) Nimmo L
2.) Cabrera S
3.) Cespedes R
4.) Bruce L
5.) Frazier R
6.) A Gone L
7.) TDA/Plaw R
8.) Rosario R

To me that's a "good" but not "great" lineup. Middle of the pack... If our pitching holds up that should be enough to carry us. The good news is by late May/June Smith may have replaced AGone, Conforto should be back and have pushed Nimmo to the bench making it stronger, and TJ Rivera could be a bench option again. The lineup has the potential to evolve and get better as the year goes on. Especially if what the catchers have been doing lately is legit. Im excited to watch this play out but Im betting there are some growing pains early.

Without you Z
You and DMM...