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Joe Thomas retiring affect the Browns draft plans?

chopperhatch : 3/18/2018 3:41 pm
Specifically at 1 and 4? Everybody is formulating this idea that the Browns will try and hit the draft powerball by getting their franchise QB and game changing back at the top two draft positions. But with Thomas jetting and the Bills frantically trying to vault into the top 4, I could see the Browns listening to the Bills for their other 2 firsts plus and targeting Roquan and McGlinchey with the next two picks.

Every time I hear about the Browns being loaded with talent sans a QB, I scoff. Teams lile that manage to win more than 1 game in 2 seasons. They have drafted exceptionally poorly and the few good ones they have taken (Haden, Mack, Joe Thomas) their times ran out. Sure they have some young players with talent like Garrett, Bitonio, Josh Gordon. But this team still needs to build.

The reason I am bringing this up? This idea of trading down with them to get an extra pick or two seems crazy to me. I think they are still looking to acquire picks, not maximize on top of the draft talent. They blew a first on Kizer last year and now they have 4 of the first 35 picks. I have a feeling they trade with Buffalo to make that six.
Not in the 1st round  
UConn4523 : 3/18/2018 3:45 pm : link
they can take their QB and have Barkley/Nelson/Chubb/Fitzpatrick. That’s the correct thing to do and I think this GM knows that.

So no.
They have plenty of picks already...  
GFAN52 : 3/18/2018 3:46 pm : link
don't see Thomas's retirement would cause them to trade down and acquire more picks.
I also don’t believe Thomas retiring  
UConn4523 : 3/18/2018 3:47 pm : link
was a shock. There’s been rumors of him retiring for the last couple of years. Cleveland knew this was coming.
I don't think so  
Jay on the Island : 3/18/2018 3:47 pm : link
I think they were planning on adding Thomas' successor with one or maybe two of their 2nd round picks. They won't reach for a LT with the 4th overall pick.

Since they have three 2nd round picks they could use two of them to move up into the 15-25 range to grab a LT like Williams or McGlinchey. I think a trade up is most likely.
If the Giants take Barkley  
adamg : 3/18/2018 3:49 pm : link
it might make sense for them to trade down from 4. They don't have much use for a guard. The alternative is if they wanted Chubb more than multiple picks. But they might want to get a future first out of BUF rather than two firsts this year.
Disagree on them acquiring more picks  
Eman11 : 3/18/2018 3:51 pm : link
They have enough picks this year and IMO will be all about acquiring talent and not more picks.

In addition to their 1's they have three two's, and the first pick in the 3rd Rd. That gives them six of the top 65 picks. That's not even counting all the picks they have in rds 4-7. I don't see them needing or wanting more picks, if anything I can see them using some picks to move up for more top talent.

The only way I could see them trading back for anything would be the 4 to Buffalo if they could get their two 1's back. They might see the 12 and 22 talents being worth more than just the one guy at 4.
Everyone thinks Buffalo wants to move up  
UConn4523 : 3/18/2018 3:58 pm : link
but they can't possibly have a top 5 grade on all 4 QB's. It would be a very Bills move to give up a haul for their 4th best option.

I think the Bills stay put unless the trade is with us (I can't see this either).
It’s not a bad thought  
DonnieD89 : 3/18/2018 4:06 pm : link
with the Brown’s trading with Buffalo to get their new LOT; however, the talent all the way to 6, maybe 7, is too good to pass up. They need impact players. They have enough picks to fill a lot of holes from the 2nd round and beyond.
The Browns drafted Kizer  
andrew_nyg : 3/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
in the 2nd round not the 1st.
RE: Everyone thinks Buffalo wants to move up  
Eman11 : 3/18/2018 4:22 pm : link
In comment 13872916 UConn4523 said:
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but they can't possibly have a top 5 grade on all 4 QB's. It would be a very Bills move to give up a haul for their 4th best option.

I think the Bills stay put unless the trade is with us (I can't see this either).


I think you're right about the 4th option but it's possible on draft day the guy they really like is there at 4, and they call Cleveland. Odds are he is gone but there's a chance he isn't.

We really don't know who will be the top three QBs to go. I can see any of the top guys still being there at 4 except Darnold. Most seem to think he's a lock for 1 or 2, while some have Allen up there with him, others have Rosen. I could honestly see a team ( the Jets ) loving Mayfield making it possible Rosen or Allen are there at 4.

Fact remains we don't know how it's going to fall and maybe the guy Buffalo really wants is there and Cleveland listens.

Either way it's going to be fun to speculate and watch it all unfold.Especially for Giants fans as I think they're in a great spot and can do so many things with their pick, including trading back once to 3 and again to 5. Or taking a top QB themselves or Barkley at 2.
I don't think so...  
Simms2McConkey : 3/18/2018 4:25 pm : link
But I'd expect the Browns to pick up a tackle somewhere in the draft.
RE: Disagree on them acquiring more picks  
chopperhatch : 3/18/2018 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13872910 Eman11 said:
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They have enough picks this year and IMO will be all about acquiring talent and not more picks.

In addition to their 1's they have three two's, and the first pick in the 3rd Rd. That gives them six of the top 65 picks. That's not even counting all the picks they have in rds 4-7. I don't see them needing or wanting more picks, if anything I can see them using some picks to move up for more top talent.

The only way I could see them trading back for anything would be the 4 to Buffalo if they could get their two 1's back. They might see the 12 and 22 talents being worth more than just the one guy at 4.


Thats what I was getting at...trading with Buffalo. There are several very good RBs available this year. Using the 22nd pick to grab McGlinchey and then having Michel/Guice/Chubb at the top of the 2nd is very probable.
So if we traded  
Doomster : 3/19/2018 10:49 pm : link
for him, he would have been a one year rental?

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