Jordan Raanan
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Defensive end Josh Mauro will visit the Giants, per source. He's set to arrive Sunday. Knows defensive coordinator James Bettcher from time with Cardinals. Fits the scheme. Good 5-technique DE with 26 career starts in four years. He had 22 tackles and a sack last season.
OV has a far better shot than JPP. OV can play OLB in a 3-4. It is more likely than not that JPP won't be on the team this time next year. The Giants will save a substantial amount of cap space by releasing Manning, JPP, and OV next offseason.
Even if a campbody.
How is JPP not a good fit for 3-4 DE. He's a big man and stout against the run. He can hold the point of attack. OV is too small to be a DE and not nearly fast enough to be a OLB.
Better than Kerry Wynn.
Not everyone needs to be JJ Watt.
Games started might be misleading. How many snaps did Mauro actually play. Wynn with 3 career sacks in 49 games is terrible. Wynn was also playing 4-3 DE which has different responsibilities than a 3-4 DE. Playing end in the 4-3 offers more opportunities to get to the QB as they are aligned outside the OT as opposed to over the T and G.
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way OV and JPP are on the team after this season? Neither are a good fit for the 3-4 and both have huge contracts.
How is JPP not a good fit for 3-4 DE. He's a big man and stout against the run. He can hold the point of attack. OV is too small to be a DE and not nearly fast enough to be a OLB.
Vernon played some in Miami. He’s fast enough to play OLB.
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way OV and JPP are on the team after this season? Neither are a good fit for the 3-4 and both have huge contracts.
How is JPP not a good fit for 3-4 DE. He's a big man and stout against the run. He can hold the point of attack. OV is too small to be a DE and not nearly fast enough to be a OLB.
I suppose he could be competent as a 3-4 DE but the scheme doesn't maximize his strengths IMO. It will be difficult for him to justify a $20M cap number.
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In comment 13872963 Pete in MD said:
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way OV and JPP are on the team after this season? Neither are a good fit for the 3-4 and both have huge contracts.
How is JPP not a good fit for 3-4 DE. He's a big man and stout against the run. He can hold the point of attack. OV is too small to be a DE and not nearly fast enough to be a OLB.
I suppose he could be competent as a 3-4 DE but the scheme doesn't maximize his strengths IMO. It will be difficult for him to justify a $20M cap number.
I think it does maximize his strengths. He’s now a better run defender than pass rusher.
3-4 DE's do the dirty work. The ones that can also provide pass rush are rare and expensive.
When someone evaluates a 3-4 DE by the amount of asks he has it says all I need to know about the poster.
I guess the Giants shonly concentrate on bringing in 15 sack guys that will cost $15M per year, otherwise why bother...
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26 starts and a grand total of 2 sacks. He better be great against the run.
When someone evaluates a 3-4 DE by the amount of asks he has it says all I need to know about the poster.
I guess the Giants shonly concentrate on bringing in 15 sack guys that will cost $15M per year, otherwise why bother...
Amount of SACKS obviously. Damn fat fingers
Did I quote you or address you? No I didn’t, stop being such an insecure bitch.
Could be useful.
Looks like we might add another true Harrison big type DT in draft. Cannot just have one on roster. W suggest sets w 2.
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Complete lack of sacks says something. I know the difference between 3-4 and a 4-3
Did I quote you or address you? No I didn’t, stop being such an insecure bitch.
Well I can breathe easy knowing this guy trolls everyone with angry, instigating posts.
Josh Maruo visits - 55 tackles and 2 sacks in 4 seasons - and BBI turns its collective nose up.
Weird.
What is your problem?
I'm talking about the blue goose that can play any DT technique, bigs that can rush as opposed to the smaller large-4/3-de types (who are also useful and whom I advocated for often in those days.) We have two of those now more or less.
DL more rotation than OL also.
No longer the days of just roll out in the same technique all game long.
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In comment 13872963 Pete in MD said:
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way OV and JPP are on the team after this season? Neither are a good fit for the 3-4 and both have huge contracts.
How is JPP not a good fit for 3-4 DE. He's a big man and stout against the run. He can hold the point of attack. OV is too small to be a DE and not nearly fast enough to be a OLB.
I suppose he could be competent as a 3-4 DE but the scheme doesn't maximize his strengths IMO. It will be difficult for him to justify a $20M cap number.
Correct, if they're looking to trim the fat next season and re-work some personnel, JPP figures the most logical odd man out among the big ticket contracts.