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How many people here actually watch college football?

Giantimistic : 3/19/2018 8:30 am
As I have been playing these draft mental exercises--which has been more fun than normal this year--the thought came across my mind that I have actually never really seen any of these players play outside of cherry picked youtube videos. I didn't really watch the combine or the Senior Bowl.

I have read about many of these players from the experts--who get it wrong more times then they get it right. BBI has been informative as well, but really my opinions have been based on second hand and third hand information. I like Barkley because I saw a 7 minute clip of his best runs and catches and saw him make a few moves that seemed extraordinary and reminded me a little of Barry Sanders. That is it. That is why I want him number 2 as well as the idea of if he is the real deal then I think it makes sense.

That all being said, and with the threads including, the remote throwers, making the biggest mistake, generational talent, Hall of Fame, bust, can't miss, ect . . ., what are you really basing your opinions off of? Is it real personal knowledge or is it more just what you are reading from others? I know we do actually have some amazing experts on this site, college coaches, HS coaches, former players, but I tend to think it is more the later with how opinions are changing so much. After the pick is made, people will be all over the spectrum of happy or not because we got or didn't get their guy--I remember being upset not getting Aaron Gibson. Then the opinions will change and shift as we all read more, rate the drafts, and embrace the new player because they are a Giant. I know I will find a way to convince my self to be happy in the end no matter what but probably because I really have no clue.

Just curious what is driving the discussions which many have been great.
I've been following college football for a couple years now  
adamg : 3/19/2018 8:37 am : link
I watch the games on Saturday. I especially watch the bowl games. For some players who I like, for example Fred Warner, I watch YouTube videos of his games. For a lot of players if you search "Player Name vs. ...". They'll be games that are cut up where they highlight the player and then show every play they were in the game for. To me that's a better way to get a feel for some players. Much better than highlight clips.
I went to Ohio State  
crackerjack465 : 3/19/2018 9:01 am : link
so I watch all of those games and usually a handful of other games a week (mostly other Big Ten games).
Not to brag  
NNJ Tom : 3/19/2018 9:20 am : link
But I am the 9-time BBI College Pick'em Champion.
I watch 5-6 college games every weekend. I've watched all the top QB prospects at least twice, yes including Wyoming (thank you Joe Tiller)

I prefer the college game these days. Army/Navy is better than Superbowl these days.
Great Point  
Samiam : 3/19/2018 9:28 am : link
People here claim to watch “film” on a player and they’re really talking YouTube highlights. Also, people remember the players they wanted the team to draft who worked out but they forget all the busts.
Big Ncaaf fan  
GoBlue6599 : 3/19/2018 9:43 am : link
Watch as much as I can
I watch a lot of college football.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2018 9:44 am : link
Hell, I actually prefer it to pro football nowadays. But I can't claim to be some expert or anything.
I watch the big games  
GoDeep13 : 3/19/2018 9:49 am : link
Other than that I wait till late in the season to see which players are entering the draft and just watch film of them. I don’t care too much about The narratives of a college football season. I just care about the future NFL prospects on each team and I find it hard to focus one one player during a live broadcast so I’d rather watch the cut ups later on draft breakdown or other tape makers on YouTube.
other than the occassional  
UESBLUE : 3/19/2018 9:51 am : link
big Michigan game you couldnt pay me enough...
RE: I watch a lot of college football.  
njm : 3/19/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 13873620 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Hell, I actually prefer it to pro football nowadays. But I can't claim to be some expert or anything.


Ditto
It's my favorite sport...  
bw in dc : 3/19/2018 9:51 am : link
I watch college football pretty religiously.

And I've been watching it for 25+ years. Which ever games I watch, I usually have a list of NFL prospects that have been targeted and try to focus on how they play.

I watch alot  
joeinpa : 3/19/2018 9:57 am : link
And saw almost every Penn State play

Barkley is a play maker, but I don t know about picking him at 2
I watch college football all the time  
PatersonPlank : 3/19/2018 9:58 am : link
Every day, every hour. Even teams that don't matter.
RE: Not to brag  
bw in dc : 3/19/2018 10:02 am : link
In comment 13873583 NNJ Tom said:
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I prefer the college game these days. Army/Navy is better than Superbowl these days.


Not sure about being better than the SB, but it is a great game, especially to attend live. The atmosphere is just terrific. And it's been better the last few years now that Army has won the last two games after Navy ripped off 14 in a row...
I watch a little, not as much as I used to, although  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 3/19/2018 10:07 am : link
the one game I made sure to watch was when USC played UCLA. I was not impressed with either Darnold or Rosen. I also saw Nelson play several times with ND, although admittedly only for bits of time...never a complete game from start to finish.

I saw Barkley a little bit but not much...I have never seen Chubb play or any other of the top guys.
RE: Great Point  
Giantimistic : 3/19/2018 10:07 am : link
In comment 13873592 Samiam said:
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People here claim to watch “film” on a player and they’re really talking YouTube highlights. Also, people remember the players they wanted the team to draft who worked out but they forget all the busts.


I know when I watch a Giants game and then see the recap of the game or the national commentary sometimes it is clear that they didn't see the whole game. A lot of time performance needs to be seen in the larger context that comes from watching the whole game. For example you are not going to see a highlight of a running back getting no gain because an online keeps missing his block or a receiver that keeps getting opening but the QB is not looking their way or throwing poor passes. More times than not I have felt that Eli had a better game than stats and highlights showed because of audibles he made, dropped passes, or wrong routes--not making excuses as he has had some awful games.

Point being, there is often a larger context of evaluation that does not come across in clips or stats. Someone could give the running or passing stats of x player for a game or season and said they had bad games but sometimes the context in my opinion is just as important.
I watch as much as humanly possible in season  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/19/2018 10:17 am : link
It’s more exciting and the variations of offfenses keeps things interesting.

That being said, I have seen many of the players being discussed beyond Barkley and Lamar Jackson.

I have caught some of Sam Darnold, and it’s easy to see what the scouts like about him. He can semi scramble and make big plays down the field. It’s the way he can extend plays that excites the scouts and it’s hard to come by, especially his accuracy when doing so.
College football is great much prefer it to pro ball  
gtt350 : 3/19/2018 10:22 am : link
the reffing is not ticky tack like the NFL. They let you play ball.
The only thing that would make it better is to expand the playoffs
Couldn't care less about college football.  
Boy Cord : 3/19/2018 10:36 am : link
It's like watching arena league on a 100-yard field and the overtime format is asinine. And if that isn't enough, the NCAA is as corrupt as the IOC and FIFA. Hell, they are even worse.
RE: College football is great much prefer it to pro ball  
bw in dc : 3/19/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 13873737 gtt350 said:
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the reffing is not ticky tack like the NFL. They let you play ball.
The only thing that would make it better is to expand the playoffs


The one thing the college game needs to address is the auto ejection for targeting. They really use little leeway when making the call and even when they review it on replay. I'm okay with erring on the side of caution but there needs to be a dial back for those times when the hit is clearly incidental...
Watch as much as I can  
gmen9892 : 3/19/2018 10:50 am : link
On weekends that are free, that is usually all day. At the minimum, I watch 2-3 games a weekend. I also love watching the potential pro prospects to see if my opinions of them end up matching what they produce in the NFL.
Love it  
Marty866b : 3/19/2018 10:52 am : link
Watch as much as I can. Better game then the NFL.
I do I like college ball  
Bluesbreaker : 3/19/2018 10:54 am : link
I don't see enough games to catch all the top players but
Chubb is gonna be a good one . I think Barkley is the best
player in the draft . If Barley was gone and we don't go QB Chubb is definitely in play .
I watch a lot of college football  
arniefez : 3/19/2018 10:55 am : link
but I have no idea which of the college guys will be good pros with the few exceptions of skill players that are men vs boys and even some of those don't work out for multiple reasons.
I used to watch everything and all sports  
Giantimistic : 3/19/2018 11:07 am : link
Now that I am older with family, I narrowed it down over the years to what I watched for family/life balance. I used to religiously watch every minute of the Knicks games but they made it easy to stop caring. Besides liking the NFL the best, it is an easy time commitment with only 16 games, preseason and hopefully post season. I can't imagine being a watch every minute baseball fan--that is a time commitment. I can still watch anything, but don't feel bad if I miss any games outside of football. I often felt college football fandom had more to do when you lived or went to school. NY and Massachusetts--my current home, does not really have great college football, but has amazing professional sports. I just don't really have much of a connection to any college team and as I get older I keep seeing the college players more just as young kids, although some 18 year olds look like 35. I love watching a great celebration like with UMBC but feel more proud for them. I feel bad when an 18 year old kicker misses a big kick or a basketball player misses the foul shot that could win the game.
I watch so much college ball,  
barens : 3/19/2018 11:30 am : link
I'm starting to like it more than the NFL. Could have something to do with the Giants stinking it up last year, but still such college has been very exciting to watch.
plenty and a better product than the NFL  
mdc1 : 3/19/2018 11:42 am : link
if you don't believe it, look at the size of the fans in the stands. NFL is lucky to fill a stadium with a top team, and still a 20-30k smaller. The best thing the NFL can do is take some of the money out of the game and get back to the play.
RE: Love it  
bw in dc : 3/19/2018 11:49 am : link
In comment 13873854 Marty866b said:
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Watch as much as I can. Better game then the NFL.


I really like the feel and differences of each of the big conferences.

The SEC is a conference with great, great talent. And you can see the conference going into this modern age of spread offenses, despite so much tradition of power football, kicking and screaming. By and large, they easily play the best defense.

The B1G still plays more of the conventional game of trying to be run dominant and bully the other team - Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana. Purdue tries to spread teams out with a more NFL approach. OSU will spread you out, but they still are run first and totally RPO driven with the QB more inclined to run first.

The Big 12 is a travesty. They are run and gun like their is the game clock in 15 seconds. The lack of defensive talent and scheme is absurd. But they do have their share of athletes.

The PAC12 is by far the softest conference. I don't think it's close. But they have a mix of everything - spread offenses (UCLA, USC, Washington State), RPO offenses (Oregon, Washington), and old time power running attacks like Stanford and Utah...
RE: plenty and a better product than the NFL  
Giantimistic : 3/19/2018 11:49 am : link
In comment 13873995 mdc1 said:
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if you don't believe it, look at the size of the fans in the stands. NFL is lucky to fill a stadium with a top team, and still a 20-30k smaller. The best thing the NFL can do is take some of the money out of the game and get back to the play.


Do college teams actually get to practice more than NFL teams with the new NFL CBA restrictions? If so, could that be part of their being a better product.
RE: RE: plenty and a better product than the NFL  
mdc1 : 3/19/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 13874021 Giantimistic said:
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In comment 13873995 mdc1 said:


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if you don't believe it, look at the size of the fans in the stands. NFL is lucky to fill a stadium with a top team, and still a 20-30k smaller. The best thing the NFL can do is take some of the money out of the game and get back to the play.



Do college teams actually get to practice more than NFL teams with the new NFL CBA restrictions? If so, could that be part of their being a better product.


May also have something to do with the "effort". Maybe less commercials and walking back to the huddle.
I watch it religiously on fall Saturdays  
RobCarpenter : 3/19/2018 12:15 pm : link
Every Michigan game, followed by the other BIG games. I was watching the Iowa/PSU game when Barkley ran off a 44 yarder that sold me on his talent.

Nothing beats watching a game in the Big House though.

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arcarsenal : 3/19/2018 12:35 pm : link
Every single Saturday during the Fall.
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arcarsenal : 3/19/2018 12:37 pm : link
.....and alllllll the way into January :)

I follow  
giantsFC : 3/19/2018 3:53 pm : link
I try to watch both. It used to be easy when It was all Saturday and Sunday games. Now many games are on random nights, which makes it hard to get in to.

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