especially on the negative which was his completion % in college. Very valid point, but I suspect there's many reasons for the low % so pinpointing it all on him is probably a bit unfair.
I wouldn't take him #1 or #2 over the more polished and better two players (Darnold/Rosen) but he's an intriguing 3rd option. I know everyone says you can't fall in love with his arm, but on a cold, windy winter day he's going to have a serious advantage. The rest is stuff I couldn't possible being to dissect - if a coach thinks his issues are correctable, go for it.
intrigued about his potential but a little scared because of the accuracy issues as well as him being so raw. He could very well be the best QB in this draft but he also has the highesy chance of being s bust. If the Giants take him at 2 I would be a little worried but excited
The problem is his accuracy, especially under pressure, leaves a lot to be desired. On the move his footwork and vision really suffers. I would also like to see him throw better on shorter passes (too much velocity, not enough touch). He also needs to play under better control. He thinks he can fit it into any window. While I like the competitiveness, at the NFL level sometimes you need to know when it is just better to throw it away and live to play another down. Allen's flaws are completely correctable with the right NFL coaching, but I think he is further away than you would want if you were taking a QB early in the first round so that carries a lot of risk when you have an incumbent QB in Eli Manning who may only have 1-2 years left.
Allen is the only QB I’m taking at 2. Kid is a box of untapped potential. He’s had a QB coach for all of 2 months and looks like a totally different QB with the same dominant talent. His footwork has gotten crisper and cleaner from the Central Michigan game, to the Senior Bowl, to the Combine.
He’s a hard working form boy from a small town who’s had to prove himself at every level. He’s a fierce competitor and an “aw shucks” kid at the same time. He checks every box in the physical capabilities department. And he’s extremely coachable.
There is a lot there that says “Franchise QB”. People are too hung up by the completion percentage if you ask me.
Darnold is a turnover machine and Rosen has had concussions and a shoulder. Flip a coin its a gamble whoever you pick. Barkley Chubb and Nelson will be rated higher but are not QBs. lets just get to the draft asap
I like the way he moves in the pocket. I like the way he handles himself on and off the field. The arm. The size. The way he is able to break tackles and shed off defenders. When he scrambles he has speed and toughness. And I like the competitiveness to not give up on a play. Also. His receivers dropped a lot of passes and I never once saw him have poor body language.
But the truth is that he is the biggest boom or bust QB prospect in year's. He has the chance to be a HOF QB but he has an equal shot at being the next Jake Locker.
His arm strength, size, and mobility are all incredible but his accuracy is a legit concern. I would prefer Rosen at 2 but if the Giants do take Allen I won't be upset because that would mean that Shurmur is convinced that his accuracy issues are related to mechanical issues that can be corrected. The Giants are the ideal spot for Allen as he has the benefit of sitting behind Eli for at least a year.
Cleveland wise brought in a veteran stopgap in Taylor but if they take Allen and Taylor struggles they could be forced to play Allen earlier than expected. Hue Jackson was a fool for rushing Kizer last year and I don't think he would be able to resist playing his shiny new toy at the first sign of struggle.
"high ceiling," "low floor" player. Accuracy issues like his typically don't improve when QBs enter the NFL. They tend to get worse in fact because NFL throwing windows are obviously smaller than those in college.
That can be improved simply by different play calls. Having said that, obviously the Giants have to dig deeper and also have to figure out his noggin and intangibles. Is he JaMarcus Russell or John Elway?
when you compare Allen to Rosen and to a lesser extent Mayfield he fails to measure up in a few areas but maybe the most important area is anticipation.
When you watch Rosen throw he naturally throws to receivers before the break. It is almost instinct for him. It is very hard to teach this. Allen does not hit his receivers with anticipation. He generally needs to see his receivers make the break and get open. This flaw is covered up a little because he has such a powerful arm. But in the NFL the power arm will help him less. A successful pocket passer needs to hit receivers with anticipation in tight windows.
He is a classic case of a see it-throw it QB. Whereas Rosen does not have to see the WR get open, he throws to where the receiver will be prior to the break.
Furthermore the tendency to power the ball to make up for a lack of anticipation will lead to balls being thrown too hard.
This is a serious flaw in Allen's game. It is a flaw that Bortles has, RG3, even to some extent Cam Newton. Cam relies on transcendent athleticism to make up for his poor pocket anticipation.
Meanwhile, Rosen has plenty enough arm to succeed in the NFL. I advise you to see the 65 yard bomb he threw to Cal Ridley at the combine or his final throw at his pro day. An NFL QB doesn't need much more than that to succeed. Seeign the field and hitting your receivers with accuracy before the break is so much more important than arm strength.
when you compare Allen to Rosen and to a lesser extent Mayfield he fails to measure up in a few areas but maybe the most important area is anticipation.
When you watch Rosen throw he naturally throws to receivers before the break. It is almost instinct for him. It is very hard to teach this. Allen does not hit his receivers with anticipation. He generally needs to see his receivers make the break and get open. This flaw is covered up a little because he has such a powerful arm. But in the NFL the power arm will help him less. A successful pocket passer needs to hit receivers with anticipation in tight windows.
He is a classic case of a see it-throw it QB. Whereas Rosen does not have to see the WR get open, he throws to where the receiver will be prior to the break.
Furthermore the tendency to power the ball to make up for a lack of anticipation will lead to balls being thrown too hard.
This is a serious flaw in Allen's game. It is a flaw that Bortles has, RG3, even to some extent Cam Newton. Cam relies on transcendent athleticism to make up for his poor pocket anticipation.
Meanwhile, Rosen has plenty enough arm to succeed in the NFL. I advise you to see the 65 yard bomb he threw to Cal Ridley at the combine or his final throw at his pro day. An NFL QB doesn't need much more than that to succeed. Seeign the field and hitting your receivers with accuracy before the break is so much more important than arm strength.
Comes down to his Comp % = 56. Not good. But people are ignoring the following:
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
This 71% number is fake news. His adjusted completion % is 65.7%. Which is 86th in the nation among draft eligible QBs.
The Senior Bowl game is a joke. They aren't even allowed to play defense. The Senior Bowl practices are what you need to look at. He was inconsistent at best.
Sorry, I really didn't mean to be crass. This topic has been kicked around daily. So I was actually actually curious if you were new since there is so much content on this...
The majority of the people anti-Allen cite accuracy, playing at Wyoming, not playing well in big games, etc as reasons why he is not the one we should consider at QB.
I think there are legitimate reasons for all of this criticism. For me, he looks like the classic case of a late bloomer (only had one D1 offer) who has these great god given throwing skills. And if he gets some more seasoning, he has the most upside.
keep saying that accuracy can be improved, but it rarely has in recent years. You have to go back to Favre to find a QB with a deficient completion % to have major success in the NFL.
That's why people look at it as a red flag. If you have accuracy issues in college, they are compounded at the next level.
By the way - people also keep saying Allen's receivers were shit, but I've seen several sources cite that he actually had less drops than all the top QB's than one.
over Rosen ....The accuracy issue is HUGE your either accurate or your not it's called inconsistent you can help with foot work and mechanics but your still gonna throw the
ball the same way .
Rosen reminds me of Philip Rivers with slightly better wheels Rosen can thread a needle .
Sorry, I really didn't mean to be crass. This topic has been kicked around daily. So I was actually actually curious if you were new since there is so much content on this...
The majority of the people anti-Allen cite accuracy, playing at Wyoming, not playing well in big games, etc as reasons why he is not the one we should consider at QB.
I think there are legitimate reasons for all of this criticism. For me, he looks like the classic case of a late bloomer (only had one D1 offer) who has these great god given throwing skills. And if he gets some more seasoning, he has the most upside.
Don't use real facts to argue with the people who saw him throw in his shorts against no defense.. clearly he threw the ball 70 yards on the dot.. he is going to be the best..
Comes down to his Comp % = 56. Not good. But people are ignoring the following:
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
This 71% number is fake news. His adjusted completion % is 65.7%. Which is 86th in the nation among draft eligible QBs.
The Senior Bowl game is a joke. They aren't even allowed to play defense. The Senior Bowl practices are what you need to look at. He was inconsistent at best.
My last comment was meant to quote this not the one that I really posted..
I'd love for the Giants to take a chance only Allen Â
- He threw under 57% completion rate in Division 1AA.
- He threw under 56% completion rate at Wyoming after transferring.
- The "Bad Supporting Cast" argument is a myth. His WRs dropped 12 passes all year, Rosen's dropped 36, Mayfield's dropped 25 (per PFF)
- Everyone had a bad offensive line in this class besides Mayfield.
- In 2017, Allen had just four games where he threw for more than two touchdown passes and they came against teams with a combined 9-37 record -- Texas State, New Mexico, Central Michigan, and Gardner-Webb. If you remove those four games against absolutely inferior competition, Allen completed just 53.3 percent of his pass attempts for 877 yards with four touchdowns and six interceptions in seven games. He averaged just 125 passing yards per game against these teams. If you decide to include those four games, the most yards he passed for in any single game was 208.
Eye test:
- Allen is quick to bail from the pocket at the sign of ANY PRESSURE. Happy feet is a term some use for this. It is VERY difficult to fix at the next level and unlikely to be fixed.
- Allen has issues with accuracy that are due to his mechanics and footwork - again VERY hard to fix. Think of any time you've tried to use a new serve in tennis or "fix/change" your basketball shot. No magic wand available here.
I get not taking him over Rosen. Rosen is one of the more NFL ready guys you'll ever see.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
Comes down to his Comp % = 56. Not good. But people are ignoring the following:
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
OK, I can understand pointing out that his WR's and OL were shit this past season, but 2 years ago, he had 2 all-conference OL, one WR and one RB, and his completion % was identical. Can we drop this talking point? It's not like other QB's didn't have shitty talent around him.
I get not taking him over Rosen. Rosen is one of the more NFL ready guys you'll ever see.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
Well, let's see - playing against a much, much higher level of competition, Darnold completed 65% of his passes with a 57/22 TD/INT ratio. Allen completed 56% of his with a 44/21 ratio against very weak competition. You don't see why people would find Darnold more appealing?
Hell, a lot of people like to toss comparisons to Roethlisberger around for Allen. BR's numbers from Miami (OH) blow Allen's away too - 65.5% completions, 83/39 ratio.
It's his decision making, particularly with respect to how he doesn't seem to do the pre-snap reads he needs to do.
Someone else posted this analysis on BBI (see youtube link below) - and note especially what Allen does at about the 10:30 mark of this video. Link - ( New Window )
His size and athletic ability remind me of Big Ben. I've heard some say he has the best arm since Elway. He has not had a QB coach, and would be coming to a team with a QB specialist head coach, another in Mike Shula, and a mentor with Eli, plus built in competition with Webb.
I also really like the fact he has proven he can play in cold weather. Rosen and Darnold have yet to prove they can play in bad weather. Yeah, perhaps not an issue, since Eli probably did not play many cold weather games in college either, but it is surely a factor in evaluating these guys who played in southern California.
have watched Allen play, since he was hyped up before the college football season. And watching him play live left a lot to be desired. Granted, it doesn't tell the entire story, but the teams he was facing were adequate at best, and he didn't do anything at all to raise the level of his teams play.
And given that, people who haven't seen him play love to compare him to Carson Wentz.
I get not taking him over Rosen. Rosen is one of the more NFL ready guys you'll ever see.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
Well, let's see - playing against a much, much higher level of competition, Darnold completed 65% of his passes with a 57/22 TD/INT ratio. Allen completed 56% of his with a 44/21 ratio against very weak competition. You don't see why people would find Darnold more appealing?
Hell, a lot of people like to toss comparisons to Roethlisberger around for Allen. BR's numbers from Miami (OH) blow Allen's away too - 65.5% completions, 83/39 ratio.
A much, much higher level what? His best game last year was against Gardner-Webb, a 1-10 team from FCS. He sucked against Hawaii, which had one of the worst defenses in FBS. He locks onto receivers, holds the ball too long, doesn't throw with anticipation and really struggles throwing to his left.
Can he overcome those issues? Possibly, but it is hard to make that much improvement when the competition level increases so much.
I wouldn't take him #1 or #2 over the more polished and better two players (Darnold/Rosen) but he's an intriguing 3rd option. I know everyone says you can't fall in love with his arm, but on a cold, windy winter day he's going to have a serious advantage. The rest is stuff I couldn't possible being to dissect - if a coach thinks his issues are correctable, go for it.
thanks for your input
He’s a hard working form boy from a small town who’s had to prove himself at every level. He’s a fierce competitor and an “aw shucks” kid at the same time. He checks every box in the physical capabilities department. And he’s extremely coachable.
There is a lot there that says “Franchise QB”. People are too hung up by the completion percentage if you ask me.
they make some great points.
I like the way he moves in the pocket. I like the way he handles himself on and off the field. The arm. The size. The way he is able to break tackles and shed off defenders. When he scrambles he has speed and toughness. And I like the competitiveness to not give up on a play. Also. His receivers dropped a lot of passes and I never once saw him have poor body language.
His arm strength, size, and mobility are all incredible but his accuracy is a legit concern. I would prefer Rosen at 2 but if the Giants do take Allen I won't be upset because that would mean that Shurmur is convinced that his accuracy issues are related to mechanical issues that can be corrected. The Giants are the ideal spot for Allen as he has the benefit of sitting behind Eli for at least a year.
Cleveland wise brought in a veteran stopgap in Taylor but if they take Allen and Taylor struggles they could be forced to play Allen earlier than expected. Hue Jackson was a fool for rushing Kizer last year and I don't think he would be able to resist playing his shiny new toy at the first sign of struggle.
If physical gifts are matched with a strong work ethic, smarts and solid character, flaws such as inaccuracy can be a blip on the radar.
I think he will turn out to be the best of his class.
Very rarely is that true
He's got significant flaws, including the low completion % that is often a precursor to how a player makes the transition to the NFL.
And I don't think it's reasonable to expect Allen to become more accurate.
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
If physical gifts are matched with a strong work ethic, smarts and solid character, flaws such as inaccuracy can be a blip on the radar.
I think he will turn out to be the best of his class.
It is very rare for accuracy to improve.
When you watch Rosen throw he naturally throws to receivers before the break. It is almost instinct for him. It is very hard to teach this. Allen does not hit his receivers with anticipation. He generally needs to see his receivers make the break and get open. This flaw is covered up a little because he has such a powerful arm. But in the NFL the power arm will help him less. A successful pocket passer needs to hit receivers with anticipation in tight windows.
He is a classic case of a see it-throw it QB. Whereas Rosen does not have to see the WR get open, he throws to where the receiver will be prior to the break.
Furthermore the tendency to power the ball to make up for a lack of anticipation will lead to balls being thrown too hard.
This is a serious flaw in Allen's game. It is a flaw that Bortles has, RG3, even to some extent Cam Newton. Cam relies on transcendent athleticism to make up for his poor pocket anticipation.
Meanwhile, Rosen has plenty enough arm to succeed in the NFL. I advise you to see the 65 yard bomb he threw to Cal Ridley at the combine or his final throw at his pro day. An NFL QB doesn't need much more than that to succeed. Seeign the field and hitting your receivers with accuracy before the break is so much more important than arm strength.
When you watch Rosen throw he naturally throws to receivers before the break. It is almost instinct for him. It is very hard to teach this. Allen does not hit his receivers with anticipation. He generally needs to see his receivers make the break and get open. This flaw is covered up a little because he has such a powerful arm. But in the NFL the power arm will help him less. A successful pocket passer needs to hit receivers with anticipation in tight windows.
He is a classic case of a see it-throw it QB. Whereas Rosen does not have to see the WR get open, he throws to where the receiver will be prior to the break.
Furthermore the tendency to power the ball to make up for a lack of anticipation will lead to balls being thrown too hard.
This is a serious flaw in Allen's game. It is a flaw that Bortles has, RG3, even to some extent Cam Newton. Cam relies on transcendent athleticism to make up for his poor pocket anticipation.
Meanwhile, Rosen has plenty enough arm to succeed in the NFL. I advise you to see the 65 yard bomb he threw to Cal Ridley at the combine or his final throw at his pro day. An NFL QB doesn't need much more than that to succeed. Seeign the field and hitting your receivers with accuracy before the break is so much more important than arm strength.
Agreed.
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1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
This 71% number is fake news. His adjusted completion % is 65.7%. Which is 86th in the nation among draft eligible QBs.
The Senior Bowl game is a joke. They aren't even allowed to play defense. The Senior Bowl practices are what you need to look at. He was inconsistent at best.
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thanks for your input
Sorry, I really didn't mean to be crass. This topic has been kicked around daily. So I was actually actually curious if you were new since there is so much content on this...
The majority of the people anti-Allen cite accuracy, playing at Wyoming, not playing well in big games, etc as reasons why he is not the one we should consider at QB.
I think there are legitimate reasons for all of this criticism. For me, he looks like the classic case of a late bloomer (only had one D1 offer) who has these great god given throwing skills. And if he gets some more seasoning, he has the most upside.
That's why people look at it as a red flag. If you have accuracy issues in college, they are compounded at the next level.
By the way - people also keep saying Allen's receivers were shit, but I've seen several sources cite that he actually had less drops than all the top QB's than one.
ball the same way .
Rosen reminds me of Philip Rivers with slightly better wheels Rosen can thread a needle .
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thanks for your input
Sorry, I really didn't mean to be crass. This topic has been kicked around daily. So I was actually actually curious if you were new since there is so much content on this...
The majority of the people anti-Allen cite accuracy, playing at Wyoming, not playing well in big games, etc as reasons why he is not the one we should consider at QB.
I think there are legitimate reasons for all of this criticism. For me, he looks like the classic case of a late bloomer (only had one D1 offer) who has these great god given throwing skills. And if he gets some more seasoning, he has the most upside.
Don't use real facts to argue with the people who saw him throw in his shorts against no defense.. clearly he threw the ball 70 yards on the dot.. he is going to be the best..
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Comes down to his Comp % = 56. Not good. But people are ignoring the following:
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
This 71% number is fake news. His adjusted completion % is 65.7%. Which is 86th in the nation among draft eligible QBs.
The Senior Bowl game is a joke. They aren't even allowed to play defense. The Senior Bowl practices are what you need to look at. He was inconsistent at best.
My last comment was meant to quote this not the one that I really posted..
I'm pretty sure Jim Kelly was around 55% at Miami and got into the 60s with the Bills.
Bledsoe was a pretty good pro and Kelly was a great pro.
I'm pretty sure Jim Kelly was around 55% at Miami and got into the 60s with the Bills.
Bledsoe was a pretty good pro and Kelly was a great pro.
From the google machine:
Bledsoe 54.3%
Kelly 55.6%
- He threw under 56% completion rate at Wyoming after transferring.
- The "Bad Supporting Cast" argument is a myth. His WRs dropped 12 passes all year, Rosen's dropped 36, Mayfield's dropped 25 (per PFF)
- Everyone had a bad offensive line in this class besides Mayfield.
- In 2017, Allen had just four games where he threw for more than two touchdown passes and they came against teams with a combined 9-37 record -- Texas State, New Mexico, Central Michigan, and Gardner-Webb. If you remove those four games against absolutely inferior competition, Allen completed just 53.3 percent of his pass attempts for 877 yards with four touchdowns and six interceptions in seven games. He averaged just 125 passing yards per game against these teams. If you decide to include those four games, the most yards he passed for in any single game was 208.
Eye test:
- Allen is quick to bail from the pocket at the sign of ANY PRESSURE. Happy feet is a term some use for this. It is VERY difficult to fix at the next level and unlikely to be fixed.
- Allen has issues with accuracy that are due to his mechanics and footwork - again VERY hard to fix. Think of any time you've tried to use a new serve in tennis or "fix/change" your basketball shot. No magic wand available here.
Find somebody in the 2000's or later who had a completion % at 56% in college who became an excellent pro.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
1 his adjusted Comp % = 71 (adjusted for drops given he receivers were shit).
2 poor line resulted in him being flushed from the pocket frequently
3 the fact that he showed good accuracy and great response to coaching at both the Sr Bowl and the combine
OK, I can understand pointing out that his WR's and OL were shit this past season, but 2 years ago, he had 2 all-conference OL, one WR and one RB, and his completion % was identical. Can we drop this talking point? It's not like other QB's didn't have shitty talent around him.
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Drew Bledsoe was in the low 50%s at Washington State and got up into the high 50%s in the pros - I think.
I'm pretty sure Jim Kelly was around 55% at Miami and got into the 60s with the Bills.
Bledsoe was a pretty good pro and Kelly was a great pro.
From the google machine:
Bledsoe 54.3%
Kelly 55.6%
I looked it up the other day. But it's so taxing to open another tab, open Google, and type in what I want... ;)
I'm pretty sure Jim Kelly was around 55% at Miami and got into the 60s with the Bills.
Bledsoe was a pretty good pro and Kelly was a great pro.
different era, different game. 55% was pretty good back then. Defense was still allowed to compete.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
Well, let's see - playing against a much, much higher level of competition, Darnold completed 65% of his passes with a 57/22 TD/INT ratio. Allen completed 56% of his with a 44/21 ratio against very weak competition. You don't see why people would find Darnold more appealing?
Hell, a lot of people like to toss comparisons to Roethlisberger around for Allen. BR's numbers from Miami (OH) blow Allen's away too - 65.5% completions, 83/39 ratio.
Someone else posted this analysis on BBI (see youtube link below) - and note especially what Allen does at about the 10:30 mark of this video.
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His size and athletic ability remind me of Big Ben. I've heard some say he has the best arm since Elway. He has not had a QB coach, and would be coming to a team with a QB specialist head coach, another in Mike Shula, and a mentor with Eli, plus built in competition with Webb.
I also really like the fact he has proven he can play in cold weather. Rosen and Darnold have yet to prove they can play in bad weather. Yeah, perhaps not an issue, since Eli probably did not play many cold weather games in college either, but it is surely a factor in evaluating these guys who played in southern California.
And given that, people who haven't seen him play love to compare him to Carson Wentz.
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I get not taking him over Rosen. Rosen is one of the more NFL ready guys you'll ever see.
I don't see why people would opt for Darnold over Allen though. Darnold's selling point right now is the fact that he is a toolsy player that is very moldable and is regarded as a great kid who is a sponge. You can say the same bout Allen and except his tools far exceed Darnold.
Well, let's see - playing against a much, much higher level of competition, Darnold completed 65% of his passes with a 57/22 TD/INT ratio. Allen completed 56% of his with a 44/21 ratio against very weak competition. You don't see why people would find Darnold more appealing?
Hell, a lot of people like to toss comparisons to Roethlisberger around for Allen. BR's numbers from Miami (OH) blow Allen's away too - 65.5% completions, 83/39 ratio.
And playing with a much, much higher level.
And playing with a much, much higher level.
A much, much higher level what? His best game last year was against Gardner-Webb, a 1-10 team from FCS. He sucked against Hawaii, which had one of the worst defenses in FBS. He locks onto receivers, holds the ball too long, doesn't throw with anticipation and really struggles throwing to his left.
Can he overcome those issues? Possibly, but it is hard to make that much improvement when the competition level increases so much.