Heard Paul Schwartz with Bob Papa this morning

and take Chubb at 2 I would be livid. If they aren't going to take a QB then they have to trade down.

Chubb he better be Reggie White

He's a great prospect and I'm sure he'll have a great NFL career but...wow. Taking him over Barkley or Rosen/Darnold just doesn't seem logical.

That's pretty foolish. For one, its a guess, and two, if the Giants do not like any QBs, it makes the most sense for them to trade back with a team who does.

trade down to #5 makes sense, no problem with it.

be fine with Chubb, but not at #2. He'd or Nelson would be fine after a trade with Denver. As someone said, if the QBs go #1-#3, you're guaranteed to get Chubb or Nelson at five.

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trade down to #5 makes sense, no problem with it.

Does Denver have to give up next years one to do this.

Or can we get their

2018 2 3
2019 2 4

to really piss me off.

would be pretty cool to trade down, and have a chance to make the Jets look foolish trading up before draft day.

Might as well trade out of the pick and get additional picks and value

I'm not convinced of anything right now. We're still five weeks away. And that's the way it should be. Disinformation, not information.

#2.

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That's pretty foolish. For one, its a guess, and two, if the Giants do not like any QBs, it makes the most sense for them to trade back with a team who does.

Yup. If the Giants don't want a QB, but say Denver does, then Denver just jumps up to #2 and gets their guy before the Jets can. Giants get a haul for moving back and are then guaranteed either their 1st or 2nd ranked player since QBs will be going 1-3.

Only way the Giants wouldn't do that type of deal is if they a) want a QB or b) think Barkley is that much better than everyone else in the draft.

instead of Barkley with both on the board...that would make me mad

yep.

I am not convinced any of these quarterbacks will be good and if giants fee saw they should not force pick..

As Schwartz has been used for those purposes before and Papa does work for the team

We can scoop Nelson before IND gets a chance and get extra say 2 picks and a future first

Broke any Giants news in the past 10 years? I know Bob Papa hasn't.

If the Giants were taking a QB why wouldn't they have taken 3-4 extra picks while still having a shot at a blue chip prospect (Barkley/Nelson/Chubb)?

to 5 because we didn't want a QB and missed out on Barkley, I think that would be really really stupid. Just take him at 2.

Did not offer any opinion.

I should add Schwartz did not rule out Barkley, he just has a hunch it might be Chubb

Chubb makes sense if the current regime does not see a long term future for JPP or Vernon. 5 would seem like the spot to get him unless Cleveland surprised and grabbed Chubb at 4 which could leave Nelson and Barkley. I agree that a trade to Denver makes the most sense in this draft if a QB is not in the cards.

an underrated fact is that this pick is Gettleman's first pick as Giants GM which will set the tone for the new direction of the franchise. He absolutely has to nail this. Trading back to 5 and taking a guard I don't think would be very enticing to him.

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to really piss me off.

Yes sir. Maybe it is misdirection, but all signs point to them passing on a QB at 2 at this point. Thankfully Avengers is coming out the same night so I can skip the draft.

Mark it down

Watching the hordes of slobbering Barkley boosters lose their minds will be hilarious.

either way, I like this. misinformation, disinformation. No one knows what's going on. I'll wait for Stapleton to weigh in.

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Mark it down

And what if they take a qb and that qb busts?

They’re just trying to get the Browns to not take a QB. Giants need to get the next great Big Blue QB. Don’t get too cute

In comment 13873777 Greg from LI said:

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Watching the hordes of slobbering Barkley boosters lose their minds will be hilarious.

Who do you want at two?

Take the QB or Barkley or at least trade back. But really, take the QB. Even if the QBs weren't the second best player, the importance of the position means it's worthwhile to take one unless you legit think they will bust.

we know you don't like Barkley because you said "his stats weren't that great compared to other running backs" but we appreciate your effort

they will take him do you think anyone would boo that pick ? I don't they can still get a solid O-line player in the 2nd round .
It would also make sense to move down but it would have to
be a boat load of picks or a front line young player added to the mix .

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Take the QB or Barkley or at least trade back. But really, take the QB. Even if the QBs weren't the second best player, the importance of the position means it's worthwhile to take one unless you legit think they will bust.

If you take a qb at 2 he better.be God enough to carry your team in his prme..

You draft an and Dalton at 2 and you failed...

but if Cleveland takes Barkley or Allen and we hand Darnold to the Jets on a silver platter, that's gonna be tough to swallow. I need to see that to believe it.

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In comment 13873775 NYSports1 said: Quote: Mark it down And what if they take a qb and that qb busts?

What if they don't take a QB and Eli continues his massive decline and Webb is terrible?

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to really piss me off.

Exactly.

With that said I would much rather see the Giants trade down and get a bounty of picks from Denver and take Nelson there than stand pat and take Chubb or Barkley at 2. I know it won't happen but I would prefer Denver's 2020 1st round pick as opposed to the 2019. My reasoning is that the 2020 QB draft class is looking very strong right now.

and isn't Chubb more of a 4-3 end than a 3-4 end/LB?

front line players when they can roll out guys like Robert Thomas, Kerry f'n Wynn, John Jerry, and Brett Jones. The Giants are bound for mediocrity. What a mess.

LB or DE?

Swap 2 and 5 and we pick their 2018 2nd and 5th rounders, plus next year's #1.

I have felt all along that Keenum was signed as insurance. I think Elway is likely to go Rosen, who is most pro ready or possibly Mayfield. Either one would open camp in an competition with Keenum.

Giants sit back and take Nelson @ 5. OL goes from a weakness to a strength overnight.

As for the QB position, the cupboard would be far from bare.

Eli (for 2018)
Webb + 2 #1's in 2019 (beyond that)

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What if they don't take a QB and Eli continues his massive decline and Webb is terrible?

My fear as well. In reality we would most likely have to wait until 2020 to get our next QB as next year's class isn't looking very good right now. Someone could come out of nowhere but the options aren't looking as good as this year's.

In comment 13873806 Jay on the Island said:

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With that said I would much rather see the Giants trade down and get a bounty of picks from Denver and take Nelson there than stand pat and take Chubb or Barkley at 2. I know it won't happen but I would prefer Denver's 2020 1st round pick as opposed to the 2019. My reasoning is that the 2020 QB draft class is looking very strong right now.

Isiah Wynn could be gone by the 2nd round....as could James Daniels and Will Hernandez

In comment 13873806 Jay on the Island said:

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With that said I would much rather see the Giants trade down and get a bounty of picks from Denver and take Nelson there than stand pat and take Chubb or Barkley at 2. I know it won't happen but I would prefer Denver's 2020 1st round pick as opposed to the 2019. My reasoning is that the 2020 QB draft class is looking very strong right now.

I like Nelson. But I agree. Staying put should be reserved for taking a QB. Staying put to take Barkley/Chubb/Nelson is my least favorite option. Trading down and landing one of those three would be fantastic imo.

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In comment 13873806 Jay on the Island said: Quote: With that said I would much rather see the Giants trade down and get a bounty of picks from Denver and take Nelson there than stand pat and take Chubb or Barkley at 2. I know it won't happen but I would prefer Denver's 2020 1st round pick as opposed to the 2019. My reasoning is that the 2020 QB draft class is looking very strong right now. Isiah Wynn could be gone by the 2nd round....as could James Daniels and Will Hernandez

There will be at least one out of Price, Wynn, Hernandez, Daniels, and Smith available at 34.

To me that screams of smoke screen. I think they are set on Allen and will be the most aggressive team for the #2 pick.

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In comment 13873779 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 13873775 NYSports1 said: Quote: Mark it down And what if they take a qb and that qb busts? What if they don't take a QB and Eli continues his massive decline and Webb is terrible?

Then it is going to be a long rebuild but you can't force qb if you don't believe that qb will be a great player..

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In comment 13873804 NYG07 said: Quote: What if they don't take a QB and Eli continues his massive decline and Webb is terrible? My fear as well. In reality we would most likely have to wait until 2020 to get our next QB as next year's class isn't looking very good right now. Someone could come out of nowhere but the options aren't looking as good as this year's.

Nick Fitzgerald from Miss St looks really good as a prospect. There are some good ones out there.