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Dan Duggan : 3/19/2018 12:36 pm
Hey gang,

I just wanted to give you all a heads up that I'm now covering the Giants for The Athletic. I don't know if any of you have checked out the site yet, as it only launched in New York recently. It's a subscription site (groan), but the trade off should be more analytical/thoughtful coverage for a small fee instead of the click bait/hot takes that other sites need to produce to satisfy advertisers. For instance, one of my first pieces was a film review of Ogletree.

If you want to check it out, there's a free one-week trial and here is a link that gives you a 30 percent discount on a one-year subscription ($3.49/month).

Also, feel free to pass along suggestions for what type of coverage you want to read more of because I have a pretty blank canvas to shape how I cover the team.

Thanks.
Good luck Dan...  
Chris in Philly : 3/19/2018 12:37 pm : link
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Congrats on the new job  
pjcas18 : 3/19/2018 12:38 pm : link
I hear good things about the site (mostly via the writers on the site sending twitter links to their site that non-subscribers can't read).

However, on principle I won't pay for sports or any other news on the internet. Heck, no one even pays for porn on the internet anymore, I am skeptical of anyone who pays for sports writing.

but good luck though.
Good luck Double D!  
trueblueinpw : 3/19/2018 12:47 pm : link
But, is it just me or do you tend to crap on the Giants? I don’t expect you to be a straight up homer but it seems like you have an ax to grind or you’re going for clicks by writing inflammatory opinions.

I’d pay the subscription fees for good reporting and insightful analysis. Maybe that’s what you’ll bring to the Athletic. Good luck!
I'll be sure to check  
Metnut : 3/19/2018 12:50 pm : link
your content out Dan.

I pay for the Ahtletic and its worth every penny. It's so refreshing being able to read in-depth content without clickbait or ads or slideshows or auto-play vidoes and other crap. They have particularly deep national coverage of NHL, NCAAF, and NCAAB and have full-time salaried beat writer on staff for each NY team. I expect the site to continue to grow.
thanks Dan  
djm : 3/19/2018 1:07 pm : link
I just might join up before too long.
RE: Good luck Double D!  
OdellBeckhamJr : 3/19/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13874215 trueblueinpw said:
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But, is it just me or do you tend to crap on the Giants? I don’t expect you to be a straight up homer but it seems like you have an ax to grind or you’re going for clicks by writing inflammatory opinions.

I’d pay the subscription fees for good reporting and insightful analysis. Maybe that’s what you’ll bring to the Athletic. Good luck!


I mean, what do you want him to say? They've missed the playoffs 6 out of the last 7 seasons and finished 3-13 this year.
RE: Good luck Double D!  
Dan Duggan : 3/19/2018 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13874215 trueblueinpw said:
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But, is it just me or do you tend to crap on the Giants? I don’t expect you to be a straight up homer but it seems like you have an ax to grind or you’re going for clicks by writing inflammatory opinions.

I’d pay the subscription fees for good reporting and insightful analysis. Maybe that’s what you’ll bring to the Athletic. Good luck!


Thanks!

I wouldn't argue that my tone on Twitter can probably skew negative. A) I'm fairly snarky. B) I'm covering a team that was a disaster last season.

If you think my coverage NJ.com was about going for clicks, the good news is that's the opposite of what we're going for at The Athletic. I'd recommend doing the week trial and seeing what you think.
sign up and be an Athletic supporter.......  
Victor in CT : 3/19/2018 1:31 pm : link
couldn't resist.

Good luck Dan
Dan, Good luck  
TheMick7 : 3/19/2018 1:37 pm : link
Liked your recent article about how the Jets trade effects the Giants! Is Patti Traina still with The Athletic as well? As soon as you came aboard,there were no articles from her after an almost daily postings by her!
RE: sign up and be an Athletic supporter.......  
allstarjim : 3/19/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13874318 Victor in CT said:
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couldn't resist.

Good luck Dan


Well done with the Porky's reference.

Thanks for popping in and telling us about it, Dan. Best of luck in the new venture.

As far as ideas for the Giants, obviously with the draft coming up, the chatter is hot and heavy about it here. By this time, the die hards that are going to subscribe have probably heard/read it all about the top guys in the first round. But I think there is a good opportunity to analyze 2nd-4th round talent at positions of need. Perhaps comparing some of the second tier RBs to the standard-bearer, Saquon Barkley and what they do well relative to him and what they don't do nearly as well relative to him.

You could go into other positions as well, analyzing some mid-round receivers, for instance, or players that would fit more naturally into Bettcher's 3-4 such as quick OLB/edge rushers such as Malik Jefferson or Darius Leonard.

Again, best of luck!
Good  
Joeguido : 3/19/2018 1:58 pm : link
luck with your new gig. Site seems like a great place.
Good luck, liked your stuff on NJ.com  
Dodge : 3/19/2018 2:26 pm : link
$9 a month?

eh.

NYTimes is $8 and WashPo is $10 for a lot more content that I trust to be quality reporting.

RE: Good luck, liked your stuff on NJ.com  
Dan Duggan : 3/19/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13874430 Dodge said:
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$9 a month?

eh.

NYTimes is $8 and WashPo is $10 for a lot more content that I trust to be quality reporting.


Thanks. And it's $3.49 per month if you click on this link. I believe that offer ends today, but you get a one-week trial before committing.
I like..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/19/2018 3:14 pm : link
that you are breaking down film and analyzing it.

Content like that can separate from the other sites out there, but it also isn't going to be for all fans.

But then again - I know you'll automatically limit the pool of people with a subscription service. I know a lot of people that will refuse to pay for content no matter how good it is.
RE: RE: Good luck, liked your stuff on NJ.com  
Dodge : 3/19/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13874504 Dan Duggan said:
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In comment 13874430 Dodge said:


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$9 a month?

eh.

NYTimes is $8 and WashPo is $10 for a lot more content that I trust to be quality reporting.




Thanks. And it's $3.49 per month if you click on this link. I believe that offer ends today, but you get a one-week trial before committing.


Yeah but you have to pay for the full year upfront! Not a lot of money, I just have to watch with all the subs I sign up for here and there. They tend to add up.
I would happily pay a monthly fee  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/19/2018 7:28 pm : link
to help urge along the death of hot take clickbait media.
Hey Dan  
Rover : 3/19/2018 8:56 pm : link
I saw your column, nice to see you on BBI.

I've subscribed to The Athletic since they lured Josh Yohe over, that site is great.
I know people hate paying for it, but I got it as a gift over the holidays.
Way I see it, back in the day most of us probably subscribed to magazines right?
So what's the difference?

What makes the Athletic great is they have both local and national news, you can really know everything. Also, all their columns are not fluff.
They are about quality not quantity and I have heard just as much from writers who have switched over.
Just about everything I read there is really thoughtful but not excessively long.

Also, they do the best job of covering hockey out of any site, paid or unpaid.
I'd highly recommend.
I took the plunge today and got 50% off  
Steve in South Jersey : 3/19/2018 8:58 pm : link
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RE: I took the plunge today and got 50% off  
Steve in South Jersey : 3/19/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13874958 Steve in South Jersey said:
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type-o -- I got 40% off.
RE: I would happily pay a monthly fee  
mfsd : 3/19/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13874888 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to help urge along the death of hot take clickbait media.


+1

Giving this a try, thanks for posting the info Dan
RE: RE: Good luck Double D!  
twostepgiants : 3/19/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13874315 Dan Duggan said:
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In comment 13874215 trueblueinpw said:


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But, is it just me or do you tend to crap on the Giants? I don’t expect you to be a straight up homer but it seems like you have an ax to grind or you’re going for clicks by writing inflammatory opinions.

I’d pay the subscription fees for good reporting and insightful analysis. Maybe that’s what you’ll bring to the Athletic. Good luck!



Thanks!

I wouldn't argue that my tone on Twitter can probably skew negative. A) I'm fairly snarky. B) I'm covering a team that was a disaster last season.

If you think my coverage NJ.com was about going for clicks, the good news is that's the opposite of what we're going for at The Athletic. I'd recommend doing the week trial and seeing what you think.


I like your takes Dan. Thanks a lot for your work.
Good luck!  
NyquistX3 : 3/19/2018 10:19 pm : link
Pulling for The Athletic to succeed.
Thanks...  
Dan Duggan : 3/20/2018 7:55 am : link
for the well wishes and hopefully many of you will jump on board. I'll resume my lurking...
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