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Is there anyone who will be happy no matter what?

Creme777 : 3/20/2018 7:02 am
Like myself. I'm not seeing what there is to worry about here.

1. Barkley
2. Take QB
3. Trade back for more picks

All 3 of those I have no issues with. My least favorite is getting a new QB, which I admit I am not fond of any of them!

Is there any reasonable way the New York Giants could mess this up? I really dont think so. I get a headache putting all of these scenerios in my head so I just think number 2 is a high enough pick where we are in the golden money.

We will be in a healthy, sound, tip-top shape come September 2018!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2018 7:11 am : link
I will be fine with either #1, #2, or #3.

I will be disappointed if they don't trade back if they take someone other than a QB or Barkley.
I will be happy with almost any pick  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2018 7:12 am : link
So, yes.
I'll be happy no matter what.  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2018 7:17 am : link
I have personal preferences like anyone else, but I think its dumb to get upset if they don't do it the way I want them to.
I'll be happy  
GiantsRage2007 : 3/20/2018 7:31 am : link
That we have a new GM remaking the team in his image. Let the chips fall where they may.... fingers crossed we increase the talent level on the team.

Oh, and I'll be happy when it's football season again too!
Yeah, as far as QB's go, I'd be thrilled with Darnold, Rosen  
barens : 3/20/2018 7:32 am : link
and to a lesser degree, Mayfield. The other scenario's I'd be fine with as well.

Not so much Josh Allen or Chubb.
just dont force a pick  
Dankbeerman : 3/20/2018 7:33 am : link
if we only really like 1 qb and he goes #1 dont take a qb to take a qb. Would be fine with Barkley in that case or with a trade down.

would like to stay top 8 though Barkely, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, Nelson and the 4 QBs are the top shelf in this draft.

maybe if we trade to 12 we can trade back up to 8 and still have 2 firsts this year and next.
Happiness  
Dragon : 3/20/2018 7:36 am : link
For me is that they wait until pick number one is made then they show conviction buy quickly drafting there guy if he is there. Now if there guy is not there open the lines the highest bidder wins they can't really loose since they will not just be betting on one player but three or more.
Old Giant Fan who suffered through the late 60s and 70s  
jjgmrg901 : 3/20/2018 7:38 am : link
I used to scream at some of the old GMs drafts. Larry Jacobsen Rich Glover Rocky Thompson? Jack Tatum was on board after Rocky???

Since George Young the last time I was pissed was with Phil Simms??? Obviously I had lost my expertise in drafting.

I know we have made some questionable drafts since Simms but I usually trust in the GM and coach.

I would love Rosen Barkley trade down or Nelson.

Go Big Blue
Within reason  
Beer Man : 3/20/2018 7:39 am : link
I could be happy with any of those three scenarios.
I won’t be happy unless they  
Jimmy Googs : 3/20/2018 7:40 am : link
force the pick, panic because of what Cleveland does, reach for a player, take a project at QB, and forget to answer their phone regarding trades.

I'll be happy with 1, 2 or 3 if the qb is Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield  
Ira : 3/20/2018 7:40 am : link
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I root for talent.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2018 7:42 am : link
I want a great player, not a handful of picks.

Prefer Rosen but I just want to see talent.
No Barks for me please...  
trueblueinpw : 3/20/2018 7:44 am : link
Don’t think RB at the 2 makes sense, want a QB, wouldn’t hate trading back if Giants think Webb is as good or better than any of the QBs at the top of this draft but they’d better be correct.
I would be OK with either of the scenarios but I admit  
Giants61 : 3/20/2018 7:44 am : link
I would be a little disappointed if Barkley is there when they do pick and he is not taken
RE: I'll be happy with 1, 2 or 3 if the qb is Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield  
Beer Man : 3/20/2018 7:50 am : link
In comment 13875174 Ira said:
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+1, and depending on how who they draft if they trade back
I’ll be disappointed  
RetroJint : 3/20/2018 7:53 am : link
if it’s not one of 3 quarterbacks , but I won’t complain. It’s Gettleman’s gig,not mine . He’s here to do a job . Do it .
Nelson  
Percy : 3/20/2018 7:53 am : link
Will be happy, even if he's picked after Chubb.
I see a team that will get better this year...  
BamaBlue : 3/20/2018 7:54 am : link
I don't expect a miracle with the new management, coaching staff, free agents and draft picks, but I don't expect the embarrassment that was the 2017 Giants to repeat. I'm happy as long as they stay on track to improve beginning with the offensive line, defensive line and the sorry state of Giants linebackers.
Prefer 1 or 3  
Rick in Dallas : 3/20/2018 7:55 am : link
Would be very happy with Barkley, Donald or Rosen. Not too crazy about trading back.
I meant 1 or 2  
Rick in Dallas : 3/20/2018 7:56 am : link
Sorry guys
I'll either be happy  
pjcas18 : 3/20/2018 7:57 am : link
no matter what or pissed off no matter what, I need to see the broader fan base reaction first and then decide which side I want to be on.
RE: I'll either be happy  
Creme777 : 3/20/2018 7:59 am : link
In comment 13875202 pjcas18 said:
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no matter what or pissed off no matter what, I need to see the broader fan base reaction first and then decide which side I want to be on.


YOUR reaction to the pick!
In the end  
ThatLimerickGuy : 3/20/2018 8:02 am : link
Those making the decisions spend months upon months analyzing these guys. It's weird to think that any of us would be better suited to make a decision.
RE: ...this  
GMen23 : 3/20/2018 8:02 am : link
In comment 13875146 Eric from BBI said:
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I will be fine with either #1, #2, or #3.

I will be disappointed if they don't trade back if they take someone other than a QB or Barkley.


+1
Right here  
I Love Clams Casino : 3/20/2018 8:04 am : link
I defer to the new GM and player evaluation techniques....

With that being said, I am hoping that the decision that is deemed to be best, is the trade back scenario.....

A single player does not a team make.......no matter how talented he is....the hype surrounding the value of a high pick is a product of the fanaticism that exists in today's NFL......key word....RELAX.
I'd be thrilled with Darnold  
UberAlias : 3/20/2018 8:09 am : link
I'd be happy with Rosen or Barkley.

If Darnold is gone, I will be okay with Nelson or Chubb following a deal back to 5.

Anything else is puke.
RE: RE: I'll either be happy  
pjcas18 : 3/20/2018 8:10 am : link
In comment 13875206 Creme777 said:
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In comment 13875202 pjcas18 said:


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no matter what or pissed off no matter what, I need to see the broader fan base reaction first and then decide which side I want to be on.



YOUR reaction to the pick!


seriously that was a joke. I do not know enough about the players to be pissed off or throe a remote, I no longer have the chance to watch a lot of college football since I coach my kid's hockey team and I'm not an expert anyway. I seriously trust whoever the FO picks to be the best option available.

the only time I ever was disappointed with a pick was Aaron Ross and it was only because he was 38 years old when the Giants drafted him. Nothing about his prospective talent.



I'll be happy with none of the above.  
Emlen'sGremlins : 3/20/2018 8:12 am : link
Nelson at #2 and Michel at #34.
I’m in the draft the best football player camp  
mfsd : 3/20/2018 8:15 am : link
I’ve gone from hoping that’s Barkely, to the best QB, to Barkley

The QB situation is confused...hard to read which of these guys (if any) will prove worthy of the #2 pick.

Barkley and Nelson feel like the 2 guys who are as close to can’t miss as they come

Trading down is dicey...unless someone blows us away. Don’t like the chatter about trading down to 12, that’s a big drop

Hey man its cool  
Creme777 : 3/20/2018 8:17 am : link
Im just having fun on this old fun
RE: RE: ...this  
Strip-Sack : 3/20/2018 8:21 am : link
In comment 13875210 GMen23 said:
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In comment 13875146 Eric from BBI said:


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I will be fine with either #1, #2, or #3.

I will be disappointed if they don't trade back if they take someone other than a QB or Barkley.



+1


I would agree with this but I've also warmed to the idea of Chubb at #2 given the importance of the position and the fact he would provide very solid and much needed leadership to that side of the field and seems to be a cornerstone type player. I like what I've seen and heard so far from the new regime and I especially like that DG is a pure "film" guy and has made his bones evaluating players so I trust there decisions going forward.
I'm OK with all three...  
M.S. : 3/20/2018 8:24 am : link

...but in this order:

1. Take QB (far and away #1)
2. Trade back for more picks
3. Barkley (a distant #3)
Happy with all three  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/20/2018 8:30 am : link
and probably in your order
If we let  
Doomster : 3/20/2018 8:42 am : link
a QB fall to the Jets, that becomes a star, the Dark Ages return.....
Not saying I will be happy no matter what,  
Keith : 3/20/2018 8:52 am : link
but I understand that I don't(and NOBODY on bbi does) have enough information to really know what the right thing is. I for one believe that the Giants are in prime position to come out of this with a great QB prospect, but again, I am not privvy to enough information to get upset.
I'm fine with any of those.  
Britt in VA : 3/20/2018 8:57 am : link
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I will be happy with any of those three  
Boatie Warrant : 3/20/2018 9:01 am : link
depending on what they get in a trade back and how far back they trade. Would be nice to pull off a trade that ends with Dynasty type players throughout the roster.

I can dream!
I'll be happy  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/20/2018 9:06 am : link
After all day 1 of the draft is my birthday.
RE: ...  
blueblood : 3/20/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 13875146 Eric from BBI said:
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I will be fine with either #1, #2, or #3.

I will be disappointed if they don't trade back if they take someone other than a QB or Barkley.


Id be ok if they took Chubb.. I would be unhappy if they took Nelson..
I will be happy with all three  
BigBlueHens : 3/20/2018 9:18 am : link
You have to trust Gettleman at this point.

I'm excited about this draft whether we grab a franchise QB, generational RB or trade down and grab Nelson.
I have a different perspective as a fan than most  
KeoweeFan : 3/20/2018 9:47 am : link
It used to be a fan would go out on game day and cheer his/her team to win that day. The next week it would be the same. What was important was whether they could be competitive; put on a good show that game. (Some of you may have experienced this rooting for a mediocre college team.)

Over the years, who won the BIG prize became more important than enjoying each game. It was no longer sufficient even to win the BIG 10 or the Big East, there had to be a NUMBER 1. (Prior to that, fans and sportswriters would have fun speculating on who would win mythical post season matchups.) The result was interesting games in some Leagues (e.g. the Ivy League) were considered unworthy of attention.

Maybe it was the vast amounts of money now involved (average NFL player in the 1960s made $ 60k. Moose Skowron had a corner sign shop in my town and Rizzuto and Berra opened a bowling alley to tide them over the winter.)
Maybe it was the impact of gambling (Ironic if so since Mara, Rooney et al were "gentlemen" bookmakers.)

So to answer the OP, I would be happy if the Giants fielded a competent, competitive, well coached team that had a good chance to win every Sunday. (2017's team did NOT meat that goal.)

So let Eli and Webb, or a new QB (if he can wear the Gold Jacket) lead the team that DG renovates with "players who want to play football". I'll be happy.

The guy they eventually draft  
David B. : 3/20/2018 10:18 am : link
will be happy no matter what.

For me, if they stay at 2, I'd take a QB or the pass rusher, or Chubb. Not Barkley. I value Pass Rushers more than RBs, and this draft has lots of good RBs. If they take Barkley I'll be worried about . . .

That he's not really a between-the-tackles, 25 carries a game runner ala Gurley or Elliott. He's more like a larger Reggie Bush.

The lifespan of an NFL RB.
Being one knee injury away from it being over.
The curse of Penn State RBs.


I am big Rosen guy  
Essex : 3/20/2018 10:36 am : link
because that is how much I believe in him. With that said, if they traded back and picked an OL and stockpiled some picks, I might be a tad disappointed, but I would get it if they just don't think a QB is worth it here. I would be apoplectic if they picked Barkley and would consider it a wasted pick given our roster and what our roster will be in two-three years when we might fix what would make Barkley the superstar many think he will be.
#1..  
bw in dc : 3/20/2018 10:43 am : link
is so dumb it's not worth re=explaining it for the hundredth time.

#2 is the answer (but taking Chubb would be a reasonable consolation prize).

#3 could work, but not preferred. And not as dumb as #1.
I don't think #1 is the right move  
Giantfan in skinland : 3/20/2018 10:54 am : link
(all the more so following the Jets trade up), so I will be a bit disappointed by that move. That said, I do think Barkley is a stud so will recover very quickly and will be excited to have him on the team.
I agree it is a prime opportunity  
Tim in VA : 3/20/2018 11:38 am : link
to grab a franchise QB. However with my untrained judgement none in this draft fits the bill and are too significant of a risk. I feel very strongly about that. I also feel that we are in a position of the greatest strength for a trade down I can ever remember. Finally I think Barkley is one of the best players coming out in many years.

In spite of the above, reading Gettlemans interviews I have a high level of trust in his judgement, and if he does something contrary to my thoughts, I will totally be on board
I'm OK with any of your three scenarios  
paesan98 : 3/20/2018 12:19 pm : link
The Giants braintrust certainly knows more than I do, as well as more than everyone else on this site. It really galls me that some of the posters here spout their opinions like they know what's best. If they did, I think they would be working for an NFL team.
Its going to take either a bad trade back  
gmen9892 : 3/20/2018 1:11 pm : link
Or Josh Allen for me not to be happy.
Cant lose here  
Glover : 3/20/2018 2:03 pm : link
I wouldnt mind Rosen, Darnold, Barkley, Chubb, or Nelson with the #2 pick. I wouldnt mind a trade back and get one of those guys, or one of the many other options that may be there from 5 and perhaps 29. Get the best player, or get multiple first and second round players this year and next. The Giants will get better this draft.
Want a quarterback  
joeinpa : 3/20/2018 2:07 pm : link
But will respect that my opinions opinion on any of those guys is meaningless compared to Gettlemen.

Would be disappointed if they take a guy at two they could trade down and get. That would be everyone except Barkley and maybe they could even get him at 5.
RE: ...  
jlukes : 3/20/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13875146 Eric from BBI said:
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I will be fine with either #1, #2, or #3.

I will be disappointed if they don't trade back if they take someone other than a QB or Barkley.


I feel the exact same way, and wouldn't mind any of the QBs

To me:  
Carl in CT : 3/20/2018 2:14 pm : link
JA or Baker are remote throwers. And agree with Eric’s post the rest of the way.
RE: In the end  
aimrocky : 3/20/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13875209 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Those making the decisions spend months upon months analyzing these guys. It's weird to think that any of us would be better suited to make a decision.


You are correct, but the days of arbitrarily believing in the decision makers are over after Reese butchered 5+ years of drafting. It's OK to disagree with the decision.

Personally, I'm very much in the take a QB crowd, but will understand if we take Barkley or trade back. I'm upset with anything outside of those 3 options.
I'd be both happy *and* disappointed no matter what  
santacruzom : 3/20/2018 2:41 pm : link
Either pick or move we make will make me think: "Awesome! But I'll always wonder what it would have been like if we _______ instead."

My preference right now is Barkley, simply because he'll be exciting and easy to root for (we could use more of those guys on the team right now). But I couldn't possibly be disappointed if we took Rosen, or if we traded down and still landed Chubb/Fitzpatrick/James/Nelson.
I feel like I did in 2004... get any one of 3 or 4 players and I'll be  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2018 2:53 pm : link
happy. In '04, I wanted Eli, Gallery (whoops!), or Fitzgerald. I also would've been okay with Roethlisberger. This year, I'll be happy with D'Arnold, Barkley, and Rosen. If they traded down and still got Quentin Nelson I'd be very happy. I'm more focused on individual players than scenario.
I think  
tomjgiant : 3/20/2018 6:27 pm : link
Darnold and Rosen are both going to be top flight QB'S.
So I will be disappointed if they don't take one of them,hopefully they get the one they like best.
I am fine with anything except Darnold...  
Matt G : 3/20/2018 6:37 pm : link
And if we trade back any further than #5, it better be for a MASSIVE haul
I'd be worried if we draft Rosen...  
Torrag : 3/20/2018 9:05 pm : link
...knowing the risks that come with the upside but I could live with it.

Other than that one caveat I'd be good with just about any scenario that's been bandied about.
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