I mean legit Pro Bowl level AND they draft a QB this year? $6.2M dead cap hit if cut (not too terrible) and trading him is difficult with a NTC. Green Bay managed to pull off the extended passing of the torch, although it can be argued that they blew a SB opportunity in 2007 not having AR at the helm. Here’s to hoping Eli makes this decision just a little bit harder than expected
Now come April 26....who knows?
There will be zero unhappy people if Eli plays really well. There will be some very surprised people, that's all.
Stated without a hint of irony from the poster who posits that every player on the Giants roster is terrible.
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unhappy people here on BBI.
There will be zero unhappy people if Eli plays really well. There will be some very surprised people, that's all.
Actually there would be some. Or deflect his success onto guys like OBJ, EE, or SS for making him look better than he really is. I am not saying you or guys who think Eli is done.... but there are a handful of posters here who enjoy when Eli fails.
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That’s just crap and you know it. The very idea that you would post that is just yet another tell-tale sign of how many uneducated fans we have on BBI.
If you cannot discern the difference between what many expect to happen with Eli and wish would happen you are simple clueless.
Case closed...
No, he'll still age like a normal human being does.
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unhappy people here on BBI.
There will be zero unhappy people if Eli plays really well. There will be some very surprised people, that's all.
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Giants QB for a lot longer than two more years regardless of how he plays.
No, he'll still age like a normal human being does.
I said, "regardless of how he [Mannning] plays."
If the Giants don't pull the trigger on a QB this year and leave some 3rd round QB as Manning's only competition, Manning likely will be able to outplay a 3rd round QB when he's 50.
People are dreaming if they believe Webb will be the next Giants QB to play in the SB. The odds of that happening are literally astronomical. The odds of one of this year's top QBs going to the SB for the Giants are 1000x better.
My point isn't that the Giants should draft a QB. My point is that Webb is simply some random 3rd round QB - and the number of 3rd round QBs who "made it" compared to those who have "come and gone" are light years apart. He has yet to play in the NFL. As such he is literally nothing more than a random 3rd round pick. Eli Manning - when he is 50 - will be able to outplay the overwhelming majority of 3rd round QBs who have every played the game - and that almost certainly includes Davis Webb. {And I am only being slightly facetious when I talk about Manning at 50}.
So, it will be very interesting to see what happens with the QB position if the Giants don't draft Manning's real replacement.
Those are facts. It doesn’t mean you are lumped into it.... but if you can’t see a few posters who hate Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
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unhappy people here on BBI.
That’s just crap and you know it. The very idea that you would post that is just yet another tell-tale sign of how many uneducated fans we have on BBI.
If you cannot discern the difference between what many expect to happen with Eli and wish would happen you are simple clueless.
And calling many BBI here uneducated is a limb you shouldn’t go out on.
How to determine success for the average fan like many of us here are is the question mark. Is 4,000 yards the bar? 30 TDS?, 12 INTs? Playoffs? Judging ones success is a very hard thing to do anymore.
There’s a reason for that.
Those are facts. It doesn’t mean you are lumped into it.... but if you can’t see a few posters who hate Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
Give me the list...
Those are facts. It doesn’t mean you are lumped into it.... but if you can’t see a few posters who hate Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
That's total nonsense and it's total nonsense people would be unhappy if he played well.
There are plenty of fans of the team that think he's overrated. There are plenty of fans who think the defense was much more of a factor in the 2 championships. There are people who think it's pretty shady he got himself tangled up with the dipshit equipment guy to rip people off.
But hate? Lol - you should take a second look at what fact means.
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There are posters here who still shit on Eli for how he played in the Super Bowls. I didn’t say many, a lot, or most. There are posters here who hate Eli. Him having success is something they do not enjoy.
Those are facts. It doesn’t mean you are lumped into it.... but if you can’t see a few posters who hate Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
Give me the list...
I don’t wanna call out posters anymore. I’m trying to stick around awhile. Haha
That's total nonsense and it's total nonsense people would be unhappy if he played well.
There are plenty of fans of the team that think he's overrated. There are plenty of fans who think the defense was much more of a factor in the 2 championships. There are people who think it's pretty shady he got himself tangled up with the dipshit equipment guy to rip people off.
But hate? Lol - you should take a second look at what fact means.
It may be rare, but the guy who called for a serious head injury would qualify as someone with an irrational hatred.
And sure, you can point to the defense in 2007, but 2011? I'm not sure the 31st ranked defense carried us to a championship. Eli threw the team on his back that year, and it is fans who cannot appreciate that fact that frustrate those of us appreciative of what Eli has meant to the franchise.
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There are posters here who still shit on Eli for how he played in the Super Bowls. I didn’t say many, a lot, or most. There are posters here who hate Eli. Him having success is something they do not enjoy.
Those are facts. It doesn’t mean you are lumped into it.... but if you can’t see a few posters who hate Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
That's total nonsense and it's total nonsense people would be unhappy if he played well.
There are plenty of fans of the team that think he's overrated. There are plenty of fans who think the defense was much more of a factor in the 2 championships. There are people who think it's pretty shady he got himself tangled up with the dipshit equipment guy to rip people off.
But hate? Lol - you should take a second look at what fact means.
I’ve learned that people who wish bodily harm to a player from their own team tend not to like that player. Trust me, it was said many times here when I read threads and couldn’t respond.
I am not saying these posters are are regular or quality posters but they are here.
How to determine success for the average fan like many of us here are is the question mark. Is 4,000 yards the bar? 30 TDS?, 12 INTs? Playoffs? Judging ones success is a very hard thing to do anymore.
It’s not hard and it’s not tied to stats. It’s showing that he can still be value-add to the team winning games in the 4qtr, whether we have the lead or not. Something we haven’t seen in several years...
Dragon had hoped that Eli suffered a broken neck. It was reported to the mods and they responded that they understand why it would upset others. But they didn't delete the comment and it exists on BBI servers. By allowing it to remain on their servers, they are condoning such hateful speech.
Dragon's Hateful Speech - ( New Window )
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Is we have a chance going into this year with a 2x SB QB. A new coaching staff and the chance to draft his predecessor. I think it’s vitalnfor the team and the rookie to see Eli have success.
How to determine success for the average fan like many of us here are is the question mark. Is 4,000 yards the bar? 30 TDS?, 12 INTs? Playoffs? Judging ones success is a very hard thing to do anymore.
It’s not hard and it’s not tied to stats. It’s showing that he can still be value-add to the team winning games in the 4qtr, whether we have the lead or not. Something we haven’t seen in several years...
A lot of team factors go into what you just said. We were 11-5 two years ago. We sucked last year. Everyone not named snacks Harrison did.
It’s weird when the team wins, the play of QB changes outside here. Blake bottles, Tyrod Taylor, and Marcus Mariota had less than average years yet one was traded for a 3rd rounder, one got an extension, and the other is considered a franchise QB.
Just weird to me.
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Hope he has a good insurance plan neck will hopefully get broken this weekend before halftime.
It’s not hard and it’s not tied to stats. It’s showing that he can still be value-add to the team winning games in the 4qtr, whether we have the lead or not. Something we haven’t seen in several years...
That's fair, but he did QB an 11-win team only 2 years ago. They were far from an offensive juggernaut, but that would have been tough, given the offense consisted of "throw a slant to Odell and hope he takes it to the house".
Dragon had hoped that Eli suffered a broken neck. It was reported to the mods and they responded that they understand why it would upset others. But they didn't delete the comment and it exists on BBI servers. By allowing it to remain on their servers, they are condoning such hateful speech. Dragon's Hateful Speech - ( New Window )
Thanks Diver, that was the quote I was slightly misremembering. And the mods wonder why so many posters are frustrated with how they handle banned accounts. I'm not in favor of calling for posters to be banned, but if a poster is to be banned, that would be reason #1.
That’s asking a lot for a 37 year old to be in that company. The NFC is loaded with excellent QB play...
And I’m sure he’s motivated to rebound. Which could lead to a decent season.
But t wouldn’t change the dynamic that’s he an old QB getting even older. And the odds still say the end is near; and there needs to be a good answer to transition to the future. Fortunately, if Jints Central plays their cards right they can find the right solution now...
If you told me it was 2011 then I would stipulate...
That’s asking a lot for a 37 year old to be in that company. The NFC is loaded with excellent QB play...
One of the QB's you mentioned will be 39, so...
If you told me it was 2011 then I would stipulate...
Well you did stipulate whether they had the lead or not, so he didn't cost his team those games. Like I said, the offense was far from a juggernaut, but many of us believe it was the offense itself that was to blame. No OL, no running game, and terrible passing game planning.