NFT: Roseanne

Love Roseanne and follow her on twitter...cant wait to watch.

You are spot on. Shows now a days is all about how trashy you can be and shows of old were about family.

they present this stuff as if it is supposed to some kind of weird and warped thing that no one is used to seeing.

Every show or every movie does it. I stopped watching Shameless because the ridiculous storylines just became ordinary.

I should catch up on Shameless and brush up on all of the Roseanne details because I have no work today or tomorrow.

as well with my family. How many times must we imply Amy Schumer was a train wreck whore? Bill Hader carried her in that movie.

The women in my family laughed.

going to be back? If not, no I won't.

yes John Goodman is back. I normally have no interest in re-boots but I think this one can literally pick up where it left off. Most of the original cast is back. I agree with the content of the show and think the small town, middle america, struggling lower middle class vibe will be refreshing as well as nostalgic. Looking forward to it.

is they had no problem disciplining their kids. OMG!!

or will they retcon that abysmal last season.

I watched it once and was bored by the loud mouth Barr. Maybe I have different levels of what I find humorous?

For those who hail it's return, Enjoy!!!

I will continue to watch William Macy and the gang in Shameless

They are retconning the entire last season.

In comment 13876925 EricJ said:

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is they had no problem disciplining their kids. OMG!!

When DJ stole the car? Roseanne beat his ass and then 3 seconds later it was about her and how her dad hit her.

Roseanne's character was nothing but an annoying narcissist in that show. The ego of that character, and especially written in other characters was ridiculous.

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I watched it once and was bored by the loud mouth Barr. Maybe I have different levels of what I find humorous? For those who hail it's return, Enjoy!!! I will continue to watch William Macy and the gang in Shameless

I can see not liking it but garbage? Nope. It was one of the highest rated show. I think it was even #1 at one point. It was well written at the time when slime tv took over.

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or will they retcon that abysmal last season.

He had a heart attack at the end of the 8th season during Darlene's wedding I believe, then they won the lottery in the last episode of that season.

Roseanne wrote it off in her book that the Connors never won the lottery, leaving it that Dan cheating on her in the show was a metaphor for him dying in her real world.

but just to feed my laziness, can somebody give me a quick explanation of what "reconning" is? I feel dumb.

I watched it a lot to kill time but I wasn't a big fan. I didn't really like Roseanne her self. She was a little too smarmy, even in real life. And the outside drama with Arnold took up too much of the airwaves.

I'm not sure about watching the reboot. Maybe out of curiosity. But, from the commercial, everybody looks like the got wasting disease. When you have a picture of people in your head, aging really sucks. Also, the picture I have in my head of Darlene now is really Leslie Winkle.

what should NEVER happen is Roseanne Barr singing the National Anthem. Now, that was a disaster...

that TV today is trash, or that there is no family shows on anymore?

Isn't "This is Us" the biggest network hit of the past 2 years. I admittly never saw it, but doesn't that revolve around a strong core family?

Aside from that, ABC has about 5 hit family sitcoms. Even though this year was its last season, wasn't "The Middle" pretty much the same show as Roseanne (lowerclass middle American's struggle to raise a family)

I'll give Roseanne a shot. I grew up watching it (except the last couple of seasons). But I get annoyed with the "Everything was so much cleaner and nicer in the past" narrative, especially when its built on BS.

when the show was originally on.

No idea what's changed.

It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was.

So, I guess that means I'll watch.

And The Middle is way better than Roseanne.

The rest sucked.

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when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne.

Absolutely. The Middle is an underrated show.

Also, keeping with the them of modern day family comedies (not necessarily Modern Family), I have to say that my favorite comedy right now, also in its last season, I believe, is the Goldbergs. Not sure why. but I really love that show.

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when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne.

lol go watch that and start a thread on that then, quit whining like Jackie Harris

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but just to feed my laziness, can somebody give me a quick explanation of what "reconning" is? I feel dumb.

Retconning (retroactive continuity) is the name for the device used to change or contradict facts / characters / storylines that break continuity from what was previously established.

lol

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In comment 13876979 pjcas18 said: Quote: when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne. lol go watch that and start a thread on that then, quit whining like Jackie Harris

LOL she's reason alone to watch the reboot.

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In comment 13876979 pjcas18 said: Quote: when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne. Absolutely. The Middle is an underrated show. Also, keeping with the them of modern day family comedies (not necessarily Modern Family), I have to say that my favorite comedy right now, also in its last season, I believe, is the Goldbergs. Not sure why. but I really love that show.

I don't watch a lot of TV, but my youngest and I watch The Middle, The Goldbergs and Modern Family (she's 10, so some of the subtlety of Modern Family is lost on her which is a good thing), but I enjoy our time together and I think the shows all have qualities that make me look forward to her asking me "Dad, can we watch the Goldberg's now".

It's not our only time together, I coach her hockey team, but this is just down time, and I like it.

Maybe we'll watch Roseanne too, I think the Middle is done this year. My older kids never did this, other than Family Guy reruns and my wife put the kibosh on that one.

talent. So many bums have gotten longer and bigger careers than her. She had a small role in Scream 2, I think.

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In comment 13876979 pjcas18 said: Quote: when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne. lol go watch that and start a thread on that then, quit whining like Jackie Harris

Thanks, I forgot how annoying Jackie was too. All her failed relationships and the drama.

on the same post bringing up the Goldbergs in positive manner?

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In comment 13876979 pjcas18 said: Quote: when the show was originally on. No idea what's changed. It seems people are nostalgic for shit they found annoying from their past. I think time dulls how annoying it was. So, I guess that means I'll watch. And The Middle is way better than Roseanne. Absolutely. The Middle is an underrated show. Also, keeping with the them of modern day family comedies (not necessarily Modern Family), I have to say that my favorite comedy right now, also in its last season, I believe, is the Goldbergs. Not sure why. but I really love that show.

The Goldbergs is the shit. Especially the first two seasons. I love it because they nail the old 80s trends that I loved as a kid.

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on the same post bringing up the Goldbergs in positive manner?

If you grew up in the 80's, especially in the Northeast in area with a lot of Jewish families, the Goldberg's nails it. everything except the Philly sports stuff. Odds are you knew someone's mom like the Goldberg's mom and the dad too.

if I grew up in the Midwest maybe Roseanne nailed that, and I said I watched it. I just found Roseanne annoying. No intent to offend you tom arnold.

...hit the nail on the head of what middle class life and struggle was really like during that era, keeping us in stitches throughout.

Show evolved well, some great talent to be sure - in later years it got weird and probably would have been better off hanging it up a couple of seasons earlier.

That said, looking forward to the reboot. Presuming the same writers, I expect it to do well.

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Oh I TOTALLY get the Goldbergs because that is my land. Just we did it better in real life.

I am 50 years old with 12 kids

btw

...yes, first couple of seasons killed - it's not easy to keep something that great going (see Malcolm in the Middle for reference). Goldbergs was fantastic - the tie in's to actual family vid's hilarious - great characters and jokes - but it has more than run it's course - I find it much more uncomfortable than funny these days. Cringeworthy-jump-the-shark in a big way.

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. Oh I TOTALLY get the Goldbergs because that is my land. Just we did it better in real life. I am 50 years old with 12 kids

Jesus. It's a vagina, not a clown car, dude.

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. Oh I TOTALLY get the Goldbergs because that is my land. Just we did it better in real life. I am 50 years old with 12 kids

So you only wanted comments from people who agree with you? I see now, I should have expected this given the climate of today's society.

My apologies for assuming a thread about a TV show wasn't only looking for violent agreement.

all of my kids. They are special in every single way.

Sorry. We believe in tradition, family, and ...

pass it by

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pass it by

sorry to ruin your Roseanne lovefest. enjoy your day.

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all of my kids. They are special in every single way. Sorry. We believe in tradition, family, and ...

It was just a joke.

I've got 3, kinda wish we started earlier and had one or two more.

12 is bananas.

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E-A-G-L-E-S! Since you love Philly so much

Obvious troll is obvious

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Obvious troll is obvious

That’s funny! I just said the same thing in his other thread. Same posting style and doesn’t change it up.

It’s fantastic.

It was a fine show but doesn't deserve this level of praise or a reboot IMO. Shows like This is Us, Modern Family, Black-ish, Malcom in the Middle, Arrested Development, Married with Children, even Home Improvement are all more important and funnier shows to me. I love John Goodman though.... Roseanne can get lost.

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. Oh I TOTALLY get the Goldbergs because that is my land. Just we did it better in real life. I am 50 years old with 12 kids

Nothing wrong with having a lot of kids but the amount of times that you bring it up in threads is ridiculous.

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...yes, first couple of seasons killed - it's not easy to keep something that great going (see Malcolm in the Middle for reference). Goldbergs was fantastic - the tie in's to actual family vid's hilarious - great characters and jokes - but it has more than run it's course - I find it much more uncomfortable than funny these days. Cringeworthy-jump-the-shark in a big way.

Agree. I stopped watching after the daughter went to college and the mom stayed over nite. The mom is just too much.

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In comment 13877039 x meadowlander said: Quote: ...yes, first couple of seasons killed - it's not easy to keep something that great going (see Malcolm in the Middle for reference). Goldbergs was fantastic - the tie in's to actual family vid's hilarious - great characters and jokes - but it has more than run it's course - I find it much more uncomfortable than funny these days. Cringeworthy-jump-the-shark in a big way. Agree. I stopped watching after the daughter went to college and the mom stayed over nite. The mom is just too much.

The daughter isn't even real. Goldberg had 2 brothers. I think it works so much better with one of them transformed.

But, the first 4 seasons or so were very well done. It was refreshing to see a sitcom centered more on the middle America working class. Wiping out the last season to do a reboot isn't terrible. The way they have set up the current situation seems like it could be an interesting take on that same demographic.

has to the most overrated show of all-time. An old buddy friend of mine (Chris) tried so desperately to get me into that show. Didn't see what was so funny like most 2000s-2010 shows.

Shameless was funny for maybe the first year or so but then it became just a Roseanne/Six Feet Under/everything else rip off. Nothin bunch a bunch of smug weird "different" people who just have an attitude for the sake of being different and poor.

I did like Married with Children a lot but they tried so much to over emphasize what a "shit show" the family was. Roseanne and their characters was better written. I cared more about catching an episode to see what was going on in the Connor's life before Id like to see Peg rag on Al for the 90th time for nothing in one episode.

With Roseanne, they took her character through many stages and places (her different jobs, her house, Jackie's apartment, the places she hung out at). For the time the show was released, I thought the sets were more realistic and rather impressive for back then!

I thought there was the right amount of people in Roseanne where the family wasnt the most popular in town but they had enough people come and go through the house to make them seem lively.

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...yes, first couple of seasons killed - it's not easy to keep something that great going (see Malcolm in the Middle for reference). Goldbergs was fantastic - the tie in's to actual family vid's hilarious - great characters and jokes - but it has more than run it's course - I find it much more uncomfortable than funny these days. Cringeworthy-jump-the-shark in a big way.

I agree actually. But I keep watching and hoping for a diamond in the rough type episode. Was just watching tonight and looked at my wife and said, “They’ve run out of material.” And she agreed. It’s sad when something good goes to shat.

Goldberg’s is still my favorite sitcom

things in my life. It's bugging me right now just thinking about her. {shudder} Yuck!

love the original show but did watch it quite a bit for some reason. I am a big fan of Sarah Chalke (2nd Darlene) from her days on Scrubs. Apparently, she will be in the reboot playing a different character because original Darlene is coming back.

I think it is a neat idea to bring all of these shows back. I did have a lot of good memories skipping school and watching Roseanne. I dont expect much though.

I will watch but not the night they air, except for the one that airs this Tuesday night.

I feel like these reboots can work only because there's an entire new world of technology out there.

I'm not sure it'll be great for Roseanne - but I think a show like Seinfeld could pump out a lot of really funny episodes based around more current tech stuff like smartphones and Uber.

Dating sites, rideshares... so many things they could do.

There is plenty I guess they can do with Roseanne. Reference old episodes, bring in new characters - isn't that what they did with Full House, Girl Meets World? I think the show was big enough to get viewers to watch.

The flip-flop in society since the 30 years the show first aired will be interesting. Also they really fucked up the ending of the original show - especially with that 9th season entirely. I guess it's better than leaving it on and never going away like The Simpsons.

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Sorry. We believe in tradition, family, and ...

...and obviously not condoms.