Dan Duggan
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7m7 minutes ago
John Jerry's contract was re-worked, per source. Jerry is now only signed through 2018 (instead of 2019) and his base salary for 2018 has been reduced to $1.075M (had been $3.05M). Cap hit is now $3.6M (had been $4.125M).
What?
Both guard spots and didn't he play some RT for us?
Like him as a backup.
Dan Duggan
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6m6 minutes ago
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Jerry had a $400K roster bonus added. His per-game roster bonus was increased to a total of $500K ($31,250K per game) from $250K ($15,525 per game)
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What?
I wanted him cut.
I think Jerry is a serviceable player, he's just better suited to be a backup, not to be relied on as the best player on the line like he was at times last season.
Dan Duggan
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39s39 seconds ago
Few more details on Jerrys contract: $525K of $1.075M salary is guaranteed. $400K roster bonus is paid today. The $31,250 per-game roster bonus is for being on the 46-man active roster. Giants could pick up another $1.05M in cap space if Jerry doesnt make the team.
Based on the talent available in free agency and our salary cap, what would be your alternative? I don't like Jerry either but we need depth.
I guess his best ability is availability.
Dan Duggan
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39s39 seconds ago
Few more details on Jerrys contract: $525K of $1.075M salary is guaranteed. $400K roster bonus is paid today. The $31,250 per-game roster bonus is for being on the 46-man active roster. Giants could pick up another $1.05M in cap space if Jerry doesnt make the team.
That makes more sense.
What about Omameh?
Vet minimum for a starter or bench guy, or cut.
Good for us then. He will be motivated.
So what we have is a backup for 3.5M cap? God forbid he is the starter.....to see him not handle a simple stunt week after week, was unreal.....
Outright cut would have been 1.6M dead, but would net 2M in cap......
I had the same thought, Andy. Makes one wonder how motivated and energized Jerry is going to be to play lights-out for us, knowing his lame-duck status and that he's unlikely to return. This is much different from a "one-year prove it" deal. It's like a "you've had your chance and have underperformed, but we're in a bind, so we'll regretfully take you back, but at a lower price and for a lower period of time" deal. I will be really surprised if the light bulb goes on for him this year. And as an alumn of his alma mater, I hope I'm wrong.
OMG why?? If aren't drafting a QB at #2 because we kept Eli and his contract, then please do not draft Chubb while keeping OV adn JPP with their contracts. Too much money at a position that isn't nearly as valued now as it was in our traditional 4-3 alignment. Plus, Chubb does not seem like THE guy. Good player but lacking that take over capability.
I guess it's a sign of the times that a less than mediocre OL player like Jerry can last as long as he has.
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Not only because of our FA signings, but because Jerry and Flowers will both be FAs next year, so they have a lot to play for in their (possibly) final years here. That does make a difference oftentimes.
Final year of a contract has no effect on talent....
Good points. This board inordinately hates Jerry. Handing him a starting role is one thing. Be mad at the FO for not having proper depth. Letting him compete and be a 6th-7th OL, he'd be a quality backup and capable of starting games for you. He won't be the reason you lose especially if there are quality OL playing alongside.
I get that but man Chubb just seems like an average player and not a game changer. Especially with our changing defense.
Who doesn't love a great pass rusher? But does Chubb fit the 3-4? Seems like he'd be a greater fit in the Giants' old 4-3 scheme.
cut yourself
I guess it's a sign of the times that a less than mediocre OL player like Jerry can last as long as he has.
you have no idea what the plan is , get a life
...for a serviceable NFL O-line back-up.
No?
problem is that he's been a starter
Yes. I assume at least partially because there is a greater drop off from Chubb to the next DE than there is from Nelson to the next G. Chubb could also spell JPP and OV, who played too many snaps last season. And DG added two pieces to the OL in FA. I'm just not happy taking Chubb at #2, but it isn't a "remote thrower."
John Jerry is easily the worst player I've ever seen stick around the Giants roster for this long.
Who would you take with the #2 pick?
I think that he will be the backup to the 2nd round pick.
I'd rather trade down to 4 or 5, if they want him or Nelson. But, this is where the "don't get cute" comes into play, there's a lot of moving parts and potentially conflicting interests when you play with trading down (or up).
Gettleman was a little fuzzy when he spoke about it, but I think hes still going to adhere to the concept of moving horizontally across row clusters(closely rated players) to address need. There is a screaming need for secondary help. More work to be done at linebacker . 2 kickers short, as well . It doesnt look like G wants to pay corners .
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To get him at this price is a steal for Big Blue. Go Giants!
Who would you take with the #2 pick?
Josh Allen. If no Allen, Rosen.
This is interesting . Who told Riddick the Giants wanted to be a run-first team. Is that coming from John Mara? He was applying for the VP-GM position . Theres no coaching staff at that point .
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giants want to be a run first team,jerry not a good run blocker.
This is interesting . Who told Riddick the Giants wanted to be a run-first team. Is that coming from John Mara? He was applying for the VP-GM position . Theres no coaching staff at that point .
He said it was the "feeling" he got, not that he was explicitly told that. But also, we know that John Mara has a good amount of say in the direction of the team. Identity always comes up with interviewing front office people.
Good post JonC
And hopefully just because of salary or whatever he still has to earn his job through competition wether that be back up player or starter if not then the Giants are full of shit with the no scholarships and may the best player win stuff
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giants want to be a run first team,jerry not a good run blocker.
This is interesting . Who told Riddick the Giants wanted to be a run-first team. Is that coming from John Mara? He was applying for the VP-GM position . Theres no coaching staff at that point .
The owners I'm sure have a say in creating an identity for their billion dollars asset that resonates as a strong NY Giants brand. That's good D, and smash mouth running game, with play action passing.
I would not be shocked even a little if the owners straight out heavily implied this is the sort of team they would want to field. In fact, I would be surprised if they didn't.
Probably IMO that's why the Giants suck so bad in too many spots. Too much money and too Many picks over the years on DL. Roquan Smith will likely be a great pro as will Fitzpatrick. And with the Giants fucked w Vernon a
and JPP for this year Chubb is just a bad pick when there will be guys like Nelson Smith and Fitzpatrick there. And if you want Chubb pray Denver calls. He will be there at 5
It's Nelson then Chubb.
I guess it's a sign of the times that a less than mediocre OL player like Jerry can last as long as he has.
So we have Solder starting at LT over Flowers, and Flowers Starting at RT over Hart, but the OL isn't better. OK.
I expect the Giants to draft an OG no later than round 3, and if that guy can beat our Jerry, Greco or Halapio, at least one if not two of them are gone.
You are better having a roster spot open and letting guys not named John Jerry go try and win it.
If he is starter for one or more games, the money should come out of DG's salary and not counted against our cap...
You saw how fast Hart got cut. Clearly DG thinks there is some value to him being on the roster at a cost of nothing.
Jerry is a suitable backup guard. Price is not bad. Not being a starter but a backup is fine.