John Jerry's contract re-structured

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In comment 13877146 BrettNYG10 said:

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What?

as I think he could be valuable DEPTH behind the 5 starters.

Both guard spots and didn't he play some RT for us?

Like him as a backup.

I still hope he is not one of the starting 5 in 2018

is a 2 year job, so having Jerry around for one more year at a reduced cap hit seems reasonable.

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Jerry had a $400K roster bonus added. His per-game roster bonus was increased to a total of $500K ($31,250K per game) from $250K ($15,525 per game)

a Jerry to beat up

here?

are like the last two Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima.

not sure I like it.

More in line with backup money. Still a little rich but we get a backup without having the cap hit of cutting him + paying a new backup money. He�s gone in 2019 with no cap hit and he�s depth in 2018.

As long as he�s not a starter

He actually wasn�t horrible on the left side. So as long as he stays there, hopefully as a backup, it�s not that bad.

No excuse for this

In comment 13877147 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 13877146 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . What?

I wanted him cut.

This shouldn't preclude us from drafting a Guard to push him out of the starting 5.

I think Jerry is a serviceable player, he's just better suited to be a backup, not to be relied on as the best player on the line like he was at times last season.

clean up HALF of his mental lapses and errors per game ...

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Few more details on Jerry�s contract: $525K of $1.075M salary is guaranteed. $400K roster bonus is paid today. The $31,250 per-game roster bonus is for being on the 46-man active roster. Giants could pick up another $1.05M in cap space if Jerry doesn�t make the team.

where years were dropped from a contract, other than a contract termination. That's a first for me.

even more.

as a backup. When Players like Jerry are starting for a period of time is when they get exposed which, of course, the Giants were forced to do due to their OL issues.

In comment 13877189 Mr. Nickels said:

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No excuse for this

Based on the talent available in free agency and our salary cap, what would be your alternative? I don't like Jerry either but we need depth.

and are trying to play ball in 2018 for freedom in 2019.

but he played well at LG. He is good vet depth, and our team lead the league in injuries last year.

I guess his best ability is availability.

than a restructure.

it creates cap space for Collins and Beckham

Solder-Jerry-Jones-Draft Guy- Flowers

In comment 13877207 Eric from BBI said:

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Dan Duggan ‏Verified account @DDuggan21 39s39 seconds ago Few more details on Jerry�s contract: $525K of $1.075M salary is guaranteed. $400K roster bonus is paid today. The $31,250 per-game roster bonus is for being on the 46-man active roster. Giants could pick up another $1.05M in cap space if Jerry doesn�t make the team.

That makes more sense.

In comment 13877253 PatersonPlank said:

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Solder-Jerry-Jones-Draft Guy- Flowers

What about Omameh?

Starting to feel like Nelson is the guy even at 2.

Or at least competes Until the 2nd rder is ready.
Vet minimum for a starter or bench guy, or cut.

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I've wanted him gone real bad. However keeping him at this price is a good idea. Basically it's costing only a million more than cutting him and you have to have depth. What we have to hope for is improvements in coaching, scheme and health.

In comment 13877231 JonC said:

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and are trying to play ball in 2018 for freedom in 2019.

Good for us then. He will be motivated.

this team they want to keep but don't want to pay. Maybe Marshall. Could be everyone has their heals dug in and waiting.

to save .5M in cap?

So what we have is a backup for 3.5M cap? God forbid he is the starter.....to see him not handle a simple stunt week after week, was unreal.....

Outright cut would have been 1.6M dead, but would net 2M in cap......

In comment 13877209 Andy in Halifax said:

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where years were dropped from a contract, other than a contract termination. That's a first for me.

I had the same thought, Andy. Makes one wonder how motivated and energized Jerry is going to be to play lights-out for us, knowing his lame-duck status and that he's unlikely to return. This is much different from a "one-year prove it" deal. It's like a "you've had your chance and have underperformed, but we're in a bind, so we'll regretfully take you back, but at a lower price and for a lower period of time" deal. I will be really surprised if the light bulb goes on for him this year. And as an alumn of his alma mater, I hope I'm wrong.

but he's not horrible. What a great summary for our OL.

Not only because of our FA signings, but because Jerry and Flowers will both be FAs next year, so they have a lot to play for in their (possibly) final years here. That does make a difference oftentimes.

2019

giants want to be a run first team,jerry not a good run blocker.

In comment 13877288 JonC said:

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OMG why?? If aren't drafting a QB at #2 because we kept Eli and his contract, then please do not draft Chubb while keeping OV adn JPP with their contracts. Too much money at a position that isn't nearly as valued now as it was in our traditional 4-3 alignment. Plus, Chubb does not seem like THE guy. Good player but lacking that take over capability.

Of the John Jerry Sucks Fan club. I can't stand this guy. I don't care if he pays to play on the Giants. He's not a good backup. He stinks. We lose Pugh, we lose Flucker, we lose Richburg (and before any of the wise guys on this board point out to me that they were free agents and he is singed, I don't care) but this guy survives to play another day. Don't tell me there isn't another backup OL in this league that's not significantly better than Jerry. If he's still on this team the OL improvement plan will have to wait another year. Sheeesh!!!

I guess it's a sign of the times that a less than mediocre OL player like Jerry can last as long as he has.

I will say I think our o-line will be better
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Not only because of our FA signings, but because Jerry and Flowers will both be FAs next year, so they have a lot to play for in their (possibly) final years here. That does make a difference oftentimes.


Final year of a contract has no effect on talent....

In comment 13877302 Dan in the Springs said:

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I've wanted him gone real bad. However keeping him at this price is a good idea. Basically it's costing only a million more than cutting him and you have to have depth. What we have to hope for is improvements in coaching, scheme and health.

Good points. This board inordinately hates Jerry. Handing him a starting role is one thing. Be mad at the FO for not having proper depth. Letting him compete and be a 6th-7th OL, he'd be a quality backup and capable of starting games for you. He won't be the reason you lose especially if there are quality OL playing alongside.

It gives DG flexibility with Vernon and JPP contracts in 2019 to free up cap space. I don't see this happening. Remember John Jerrys contract is a Jerry Reese move and his now off the books in 2019.

not sure how this could be viewed negatively. There are other options for cap savings

In comment 13877443 Chip said:

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It gives DG flexibility with Vernon and JPP contracts in 2019 to free up cap space. I don't see this happening. Remember John Jerrys contract is a Jerry Reese move and his now off the books in 2019.

I get that but man Chubb just seems like an average player and not a game changer. Especially with our changing defense.

In comment 13877288 JonC said:

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Who doesn't love a great pass rusher? But does Chubb fit the 3-4? Seems like he'd be a greater fit in the Giants' old 4-3 scheme.

If Jerry was our 5th (or even 4th) best OL the line would be pretty good. But the truth is he's been near our best OL and that's a problem but not Jerry's problem.