What current player would you trade #2 for?

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TB12 would be in consideration, but he's 41 in August & doesn't sound like he's going to be playing another 4-5 years as previously talked about.

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In comment 13877499 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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TB12 would be in consideration, but he's 41 in August & doesn't sound like he's going to be playing another 4-5 years as previously talked about.

So Rosen is a

Wentz....helps us...hurts philly

In comment 13877504 BillT said:

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In comment 13877499 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: TB12 would be in consideration, but he's 41 in August & doesn't sound like he's going to be playing another 4-5 years as previously talked about. So Rosen is a

Sorry. I was just thinking that Rosen's concussions are supposedly such a problem but Wentz's ACL isn't?

Julio Jones?

only Wentz and Goff. Also John Jerry but he is already on the team so no need to mention the obvious.

can the Giants trade with themselves and get more Giants picks. I know some people are now in "imagine if D-O-G actually spelled cat" land right now but that's what I'd do, you know, so the Giants aren't stuck with "just" 5 picks.

LeVeon Bell for Barkley people?

Norwell for Nelson people?

Bosa for Chubb people?

remember, you make a trade for an existing vet, in most cases you are picking up a big cap hit over what a rookie contract would pay...

In comment 13877488 tbonfig said:

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DOesn't that solve the problem with the same problem?

it may be hard to fit a player worthy of being traded for the #2 pick under that Giants cap.

Russell Wilson

In comment 13877538 twostepgiants said:

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LeVeon Bell for Barkley people? Norwell for Nelson people? Bosa for Chubb people?

No- those players (except for Bosa) are 5 years older than Barkley/Nelson, paid double the salary, and have lower ceilings IMO.

Bell is great, but I think Barkley will be better. Plus, Bell only has about 250 less touches in his career than Jonathan Stewart does. That is not even a seasons worth of touches in the difference between the odometer on Stewart and Bell. Not comparing the 2, just showing how much usage Bell has gotten which could potentially lead to him declining sooner than expected.

Norwell is good, and had one great year, but I think Nelson is a better player today than Norwell and he will prove that this season.

In comment 13877538 twostepgiants said:

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LeVeon Bell for Barkley people? Norwell for Nelson people? Bosa for Chubb people?

Bosa for Chubb people -> absolutely since Bosa is a) still on his rookie deal and b) thought more highly of than Chubb. Bosa is also only 23 (by season's start).

Bell vs Barkley -> not remotely comparable with Bell likely to get at least 2x as much per season and being 26 with >1200 career carries already.

Norwell - again, factoring in age and current compensation, this would also be a no for me, though I'm not in favor of taking a G at #2 anyway.

One of the big advantages of a draft pick is that they are cost controlled for 4-5 years so if they excel, you get a star player at substantially below market cost (see Beckham). With that in mind, your hypothetical would be much more interesting if you substituted Elliott or Fournette for Bell and say Conklin (or Tunsil) for Norwell.

In comment 13877599 Breeze_94 said:

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In comment 13877538 twostepgiants said: Quote: LeVeon Bell for Barkley people? Norwell for Nelson people? Bosa for Chubb people? No- those players (except for Bosa) are 5 years older than Barkley/Nelson, paid double the salary, and have lower ceilings IMO. Bell is great, but I think Barkley will be better. Plus, Bell only has about 250 less touches in his career than Jonathan Stewart does. That is not even a seasons worth of touches in the difference between the odometer on Stewart and Bell. Not comparing the 2, just showing how much usage Bell has gotten which could potentially lead to him declining sooner than expected. Norwell is good, and had one great year, but I think Nelson is a better player today than Norwell and he will prove that this season.

Those are some high expectations for Barkley as Bell is arguably on track for the HOF.

Was a good call. I'm wary of Wentz after the ACL, not everyone heals the same though they aren't a death knell anymore. Maybe Julio Jones. There just isn't the star power there once was, this is a low point in NFL talent. What truly dominant players are there on either side of the ball save for Tom Brady? Maybe Fletcher Cox, but he's still not a truly dominant player. Maybe Zach Martin, Jalen Ramsey in a year? It seems like you can scheme anyone out of the game these days.

In comment 13877498 ryanmkeane said:

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Wentz is much better than Goff. Goff is a system QB, doesn't have the feel for the game that Wentz does.

Wentz or Myles Garrett would be my choices.