Kim Jones on WFAN said the Giants are absolutely in love with Barkley. They believe he can do it all. can line up outside as a WR in sets, can catch outta the back field, can block line OL, and of course his running.. just passing this along.
to taoe Barkley from the Giants. IMO thats why the jets traded with the colts and the bills are talking to the Browns. I could be wrong, but i dont think i am.
Be a pro bowler at slot WR, I am certain of that. His route running and hands coupled with body control would make him deadly in the slot. People overlook that when talking about devaluing RBs. He's an incredible receiver at the position.
immediate excitement and after last season that is of high value to this franchise.
That's basically how I'm looking at it. I generally think its a bad idea to take a RB this high, but at this point, fuck it. Give me something fun to watch on Sundays.
If the Giants wanted Nelson, why wouldn't they have made the trade with the Jets at 6?.. good chance Chubb or nelson would be there at 6, especially since teams likely would try to trade with Browns for #4 for a QB.
It's not a stretch, he certainly can do it. But he doesn't all the time because of his lateral quickness. I like the RB that doesn't go overboard with trying to run people over when there are other alternatives. It shortens their on the field readiness. I'd rather have a role player that craves contact at the RB position.
I would try it certainly, the Jets probably feel they can get who they want at 3 tho and do they have anything left to move up?
I'd take their #1 next year.
They might get antsy as the draft approaches and worry someone else will trade with the Giants and take the guy they really want. Ideal scenario for DG and the Giants,IMO.
I love how. Everyone who pushes Barkley, just likes to ignore the fact that the Giants have a 37 yr old QB in decline. They have as big a need at QB as any team. And they don’t get a chance to pick 2 often. Better not use it on no damn RB
he does it all and is a great kid off the field. Whats not to love?
The question comes down to does it makes sense considering where we are picking and the value of the pick in terms of QB's and what we could possibly get in a trade.
I love how. Everyone who pushes Barkley, just likes to ignore the fact that the Giants have a 37 yr old QB in decline. They have as big a need at QB as any team. And they don’t get a chance to pick 2 often. Better not use it on no damn RB
Exactly!
Those who want to trade down or take Barkley at 2, think that Eli Manning is 30 years old in the prime of his career. That can't be further from the truth.
immediate excitement and after last season that is of high value to this franchise.
That's basically how I'm looking at it. I generally think its a bad idea to take a RB this high, but at this point, fuck it. Give me something fun to watch on Sundays.
Fix the OL. And get a legit offensive scheme and Gallman, Shep, Engram, and Beckham is more than enough excitement
I would try it certainly, the Jets probably feel they can get who they want at 3 tho and do they have anything left to move up?
I'd take their #1 next year.
They might get antsy as the draft approaches and worry someone else will trade with the Giants and take the guy they really want. Ideal scenario for DG and the Giants,IMO.
That's a trade the Giants consider making after the Browns pick and not one second sooner.
Eddie you cannot be that dumb. Of course they will be at Pro Days for the QB's. Especially Darnold who didn't throw at the combine. But a lot of people do not believe this crop of QBs are franchise QBs.
People are really comfortable reaching such conclusions. Â
I feel like we should be leaving those feelings to people who at least sat and watched all the games the QB played and did the legwork to learn the player.
In my opinion, this is not a smokescreen, they are pretty intent on taking Barkely. I feel everything said and done seems to indicate it. Also, the recent success of Gurley, Elliot and Fournette is at play here as well.
I'm saying this and I'm 100pct in the take a QB camp.
Not only is Eli 37, but he has played like a lower echelon QB the last 2 seasons. I give him a pass with the line, but he still makes so many dumb mistakes.
Eddie you cannot be that dumb. Of course they will be at Pro Days for the QB's. Especially Darnold who didn't throw at the combine. But a lot of people do not believe this crop of QBs are franchise QBs.
Thanks for calling me dumb, real big of you.
Teams are trying to trade up and get one of the QBs, but this crop isn't any good. Ok....
Absolutely, just like the Norwell hype. DG is playing the game, maybe to get Cleveland to consider taking Barkley with the #1...so we can get our first choice among the QB's.
This is the most exciting draft in years, since Eli.
You can plug at least a half dozen other names into the statement replacing Barkley's name, and it would still be true. And if you are DG, you'd say the same about every player in the draft at this time of the NFL year.
most teams feel the same way. Whats not to love? There are a few people trying to convince everyone that he has certain flaws, but they don't appear to be real. He seems like the whole package.
I still wouldn't draft him. I don't need my RB to be a great slot WR, unless I don't have a great slot WR. I can pieces that can do all that Barkley can do.
Any other NFL teams send one of the owners to scout players Â
no but if they don't view any of these as a "franchise QB" he'll be the pick.
its QB or Barkley IMO.
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
of course they're going to visit the QB pro days, it would be a fireable offense not do so even if you're not convinced on one of them.
That's basically how I'm looking at it. I generally think its a bad idea to take a RB this high, but at this point, fuck it. Give me something fun to watch on Sundays.
I would try it certainly, the Jets probably feel they can get who they want at 3 tho and do they have anything left to move up?
That's a bit of a stretch, no?
IMO its a QB or barkley. but we'll see.
Let us know when there is one available.
History will show that this years class is the re-dux of 1999 not 1983.
That's a bit of a stretch, no?
It's not a stretch, he certainly can do it. But he doesn't all the time because of his lateral quickness. I like the RB that doesn't go overboard with trying to run people over when there are other alternatives. It shortens their on the field readiness. I'd rather have a role player that craves contact at the RB position.
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I wonder if a trade with the Jets is possible.
I would try it certainly, the Jets probably feel they can get who they want at 3 tho and do they have anything left to move up?
I'd take their #1 next year.
They might get antsy as the draft approaches and worry someone else will trade with the Giants and take the guy they really want. Ideal scenario for DG and the Giants,IMO.
Damn. Eli would have toys.
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
I love how. Everyone who pushes Barkley, just likes to ignore the fact that the Giants have a 37 yr old QB in decline. They have as big a need at QB as any team. And they don’t get a chance to pick 2 often. Better not use it on no damn RB
The question comes down to does it makes sense considering where we are picking and the value of the pick in terms of QB's and what we could possibly get in a trade.
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Along with Shurmur are at Darnold's Pro Day
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
I love how. Everyone who pushes Barkley, just likes to ignore the fact that the Giants have a 37 yr old QB in decline. They have as big a need at QB as any team. And they don’t get a chance to pick 2 often. Better not use it on no damn RB
Exactly!
Those who want to trade down or take Barkley at 2, think that Eli Manning is 30 years old in the prime of his career. That can't be further from the truth.
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immediate excitement and after last season that is of high value to this franchise.
That's basically how I'm looking at it. I generally think its a bad idea to take a RB this high, but at this point, fuck it. Give me something fun to watch on Sundays.
Fix the OL. And get a legit offensive scheme and Gallman, Shep, Engram, and Beckham is more than enough excitement
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I wonder if a trade with the Jets is possible.
I would try it certainly, the Jets probably feel they can get who they want at 3 tho and do they have anything left to move up?
I'd take their #1 next year.
They might get antsy as the draft approaches and worry someone else will trade with the Giants and take the guy they really want. Ideal scenario for DG and the Giants,IMO.
That's a trade the Giants consider making after the Browns pick and not one second sooner.
She's a Penn State alum. He's the best player they've had in a really long time. I know a few Penn State people. They're all nuts for him.
Or Barkley is #1 on their board. Jones is saying the same thing that others have now said.
Plenty of smoke about the Giants not liking the QB’s and loving Barkley, could be fire.
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
Or Barkley is #1 on their board. Jones is saying the same thing that others have now said.
That’s my thinking as well, there is so much smoke, it could be and actual fire. Time will tell...
I'm saying this and I'm 100pct in the take a QB camp.
Not only is Eli 37, but he has played like a lower echelon QB the last 2 seasons. I give him a pass with the line, but he still makes so many dumb mistakes.
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Along with Shurmur are at Darnold's Pro Day
But they don't like these QBs.
C'mon!
Eddie you cannot be that dumb. Of course they will be at Pro Days for the QB's. Especially Darnold who didn't throw at the combine. But a lot of people do not believe this crop of QBs are franchise QBs.
Thanks for calling me dumb, real big of you.
Teams are trying to trade up and get one of the QBs, but this crop isn't any good. Ok....
Kim was saying that she is infatuated with Barkley and that she expects that the Giants will select Barkley with the second pick
Kim is convinced that Webb is the future and as such the Giants will select Barkley
To understand Kim’s bias toward Barkley you have to know that she did an article on him last year and has closely followed him since
Absolutely, just like the Norwell hype. DG is playing the game, maybe to get Cleveland to consider taking Barkley with the #1...so we can get our first choice among the QB's.
This is the most exciting draft in years, since Eli.
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Or Barkley is #1 on their board. Jones is saying the same thing that others have now said.
I still wouldn't draft him. I don't need my RB to be a great slot WR, unless I don't have a great slot WR. I can pieces that can do all that Barkley can do.