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Josh Allen stats vs big 5 + ranked teams

huygens20 : 3/21/2018 9:16 pm
Worse than Webb’s

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffRisdon/status/976590919326683142/photo/1
Terrible way to assess him  
NoGainDayne : 3/21/2018 9:20 pm : link
the talent on those teams overall is far superior to Wyoming
You know there is that pesky little aspect called teammates  
montanagiant : 3/21/2018 9:23 pm : link
Whose skill levels greatly affect the game.
Do you think Cal or Wyoming had a better cast of players surrounding their respective QBs?
Let’s ask  
huygens20 : 3/21/2018 9:29 pm : link
Jake locker, Jamarcus Russell, and Christian hackenberg, all qbs with blessed arms but terrible accuracy how their professional careers have unfolded.


Allen isn’t a qb. He’s a TE.
RE: Let’s ask  
Tom in NY : 3/21/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13878887 huygens20 said:
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Jake locker, Jamarcus Russell, and Christian hackenberg, all qbs with blessed arms but terrible accuracy how their professional careers have unfolded.


Allen isn’t a qb. He’s a TE.


We'll remember you're the one that said this in 3 years...for better or worse.
RE: You know there is that pesky little aspect called teammates  
ajr2456 : 3/21/2018 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13878880 montanagiant said:
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Whose skill levels greatly affect the game.
Do you think Cal or Wyoming had a better cast of players surrounding their respective QBs?


So what's the excuse for the 9-19 vs Hawaii?
RE: RE: Let’s ask  
huygens20 : 3/21/2018 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13878890 Tom in NY said:
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Jake locker, Jamarcus Russell, and Christian hackenberg, all qbs with blessed arms but terrible accuracy how their professional careers have unfolded.


Allen isn’t a qb. He’s a TE.



We'll remember you're the one that said this in 3 years...for better or worse.


He’s got a big arm. Big fucking deal if he can’t make a throw on time and on spot that his NFL peers complete 80% of the time.
When Eli struggled...  
bw in dc : 3/21/2018 9:39 pm : link
It was lack of support - oline, no running game, receiver issues, bad coaching, bad game plan, weather, etc.

When Josh Allen had poor games because his supporting casts was barely D1 calber, and the opposition had more skill and depth, the issue was Allen...strange.

Allen has flashed enough that he’s skyrocketed on every board. The talent jumps off the screen. He’s a classic late bloomer who will need time. But there is so much there to work with that you have to like his chances to succeed...



RE: RE: You know there is that pesky little aspect called teammates  
montanagiant : 3/21/2018 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13878894 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 13878880 montanagiant said:


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Whose skill levels greatly affect the game.
Do you think Cal or Wyoming had a better cast of players surrounding their respective QBs?



So what's the excuse for the 9-19 vs Hawaii?

Oh shit you identified one bad game...CASE CLOSED
RE: When Eli struggled...  
montanagiant : 3/21/2018 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13878905 bw in dc said:
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It was lack of support - oline, no running game, receiver issues, bad coaching, bad game plan, weather, etc.

When Josh Allen had poor games because his supporting casts was barely D1 calber, and the opposition had more skill and depth, the issue was Allen...strange.

Allen has flashed enough that he’s skyrocketed on every board. The talent jumps off the screen. He’s a classic late bloomer who will need time. But there is so much there to work with that you have to like his chances to succeed...



Shhh...Ajar and Hygiene know more then all those hacks you mention
RE: RE: RE: You know there is that pesky little aspect called teammates  
ajr2456 : 3/21/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13878911 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13878880 montanagiant said:


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Whose skill levels greatly affect the game.
Do you think Cal or Wyoming had a better cast of players surrounding their respective QBs?



So what's the excuse for the 9-19 vs Hawaii?


Oh shit you identified one bad game...CASE CLOSED


Well your saying we can't talk about the other ones. Can we talk about his bad Colorado State games in back to back years?
It's hilarious how a Josh Allen thread  
montanagiant : 3/21/2018 9:55 pm : link
Is like a bat signal x100 to you. Seriously Ajar I got no issues with you buddy but it's like you think lobbying so strongly against the kid is going to change what the Giants are going to do.

We get it yo don't like a player that a bunch of other teams covet
RE: RE: RE: RE: You know there is that pesky little aspect called teammates  
montanagiant : 3/21/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13878921 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 13878894 ajr2456 said:


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In comment 13878880 montanagiant said:


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Whose skill levels greatly affect the game.
Do you think Cal or Wyoming had a better cast of players surrounding their respective QBs?



So what's the excuse for the 9-19 vs Hawaii?


Oh shit you identified one bad game...CASE CLOSED



Well your saying we can't talk about the other ones. Can we talk about his bad Colorado State games in back to back years?

Are you going to bring up Darnold's Washington St game or
Josh Rosen vs Arizona?
Can’t Get Too Worked Up About Bad Games  
MojoEd : 3/21/2018 10:14 pm : link
When Big Ben was coming out from U Miami Ohio, I remember some columnists pointing to a 4 interception game he had as a red flag.
RE: It's hilarious how a Josh Allen thread  
ajr2456 : 3/21/2018 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13878934 montanagiant said:
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Is like a bat signal x100 to you. Seriously Ajar I got no issues with you buddy but it's like you think lobbying so strongly against the kid is going to change what the Giants are going to do.

We get it yo don't like a player that a bunch of other teams covet


It's a message board for discussion on topics. Unlike a certain poster here I don't claim to have influence on the Giants. I've barely posted the past month so not sure what you're getting at.
RE: Let’s ask  
bw in dc : 3/21/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13878887 huygens20 said:
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Jake locker, Jamarcus Russell, and Christian hackenberg, all qbs with blessed arms but terrible accuracy how their professional careers have unfolded.


Allen isn’t a qb. He’s a TE.


Russell was a talent who essentially took the money and, well, stopped caring. His demise had NOTHING to do with his physical attributes. It was all in his attitude.

Hackenberg was a 2nd round pick. And that’s likely the right spot. He’s go talent, but he’s also a QB for the Jets. I’m not sure that the ideal environment to learn the craft...

Locker as a forced pick by the Titans. I think Allen’s talent is considerably better. At least Locker has talent at UDub. Jermaine Kearse was a pretty good WR to throw to...
RE: Can’t Get Too Worked Up About Bad Games  
TheShade : 3/22/2018 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13878952 MojoEd said:
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When Big Ben was coming out from U Miami Ohio, I remember some columnists pointing to a 4 interception game he had as a red flag.


The sad thing is that he still has 2 or 3 of those types of games every year.
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