Another blockbuster trade: Giants trading DE Jason Pierre-Paul and a 2018 fourth-round pick to Buccaneers for a 2018 third-round pick and a fourth-round pick, source tells ESPN. Per Schefter
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While trading Jason Pierre-Paul will save the Giants $12.5M in cash this season, he'll still count for $15M in dead money against the cap for the G-Men.
will have to wait as to who is on the hook for the salary. He had $7.25M guaranteed of his 2018 salary. And on 3/18, an additional $4M was guaranteed. I presume the Bucs will eat the salary guarantees. His contract is a mess. JPP contract - ( New Window )
Not really. It's a salary dump, not so much for this year but it gives us a lot more flexibility going forward. We pick up an extra 3rd which isn't great, the fourth is only a drop of 6 spots.
RE: So all we are netting out of this is a 3rd round pick?
But totally the right move. We have to eat his signing bonus, but are free of his contract. DG got what he could. Added an extra third, so we're up to six picks. I actually think this makes a trade down less likely since we now have an extra day two pick. Chubb is definitely in play at #2.
They Signed Martin to be the OLB on the left side and Mauro
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JPP leaves behind a whopping $15M in dead cap per this trade, clearing just $2.5M in cap space for the #Giants.
JPP will never be that great again. His best days are behind him.. Good run stopper. Can't rush passer anymore. Still hoping for either Nelson, Barkley. Gettlemen said O-line gets first priority. Nelson and then a center as a second pick.
A trade with Denver looming, if its Chubb?
Don't see him at #2, but Denver's #5, then 34,37, whatever after that. A nice '18 haul.
Denver's 1st or 2nd in '19, or whatever.
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CHUBB.
Looking at over the cap if cut next year we were looking at 10 mil
didn't get hosed. That's all we were going to get for a guy missing most of his right hand. And as others have noted, JPP doesn't fit our 3-4 defense, and is not an OLB. Chubb is also better suited for a 4-3, but we'll run a lot of 4-3 looks, he's younger, has all his fingers, and as JonC notes, the Giants love him.
We save about 2.5 million this year but next years a lot of money per Dan Duggan
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Just $2.5M this year. But huge for the future because he's off the books instead of having a $19.5M cap hit in 2019 and $17.5M in 2020
The cap saving would be the difference between the two.
I took this from spotrac. May not be quite right given the other numbers in the thread, but the concept is the same:
small net cap save for 2018.
the real question is the savings next year...because FA is pretty much over this year (no big names out there). But what are the savings next year when in theory we have to pay OBJ
didn't get hosed. That's all we were going to get for a guy missing most of his right hand. And as others have noted, JPP doesn't fit our 3-4 defense, and is not an OLB. Chubb is also better suited for a 4-3, but we'll run a lot of 4-3 looks, he's younger, has all his fingers, and as JonC notes, the Giants love him.
Even on Chubb, I've seen a few people compare him to a more athletic Chandler Jones. Jones got 17 sacks last year under Bettcher playing a mix of 3-4 end and 3-4 olb.
didn't get hosed. That's all we were going to get for a guy missing most of his right hand. And as others have noted, JPP doesn't fit our 3-4 defense, and is not an OLB. Chubb is also better suited for a 4-3, but we'll run a lot of 4-3 looks, he's younger, has all his fingers, and as JonC notes, the Giants love him.
Even on Chubb, I've seen a few people compare him to a more athletic Chandler Jones. Jones got 17 sacks last year under Bettcher playing a mix of 3-4 end and 3-4 olb.
If that's true, it's an important point. Chandler Jones was a huge part of their defense. Played over 1,000 snaps last year as a LB.
all we got is 2.5 mil in savings and complain about Dead money really takes dead money too seriously. If the Giants needed the 2.5 mil space, it doesn't matter that they got rid of JPP. If we plan on replacing him with draft picks then who cares (draft picks are allotted a certain amount anyway).
I don't think Chubb is the pick, but Michael Lombardi made a rare good point, that he knows organizationally the Giants grading system will give Chubb an extremely high grade. I doubt Gettleman's changed it that much. So it wouldn't surprise me.
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While trading Jason Pierre-Paul will save the Giants $12.5M in cash this season, he'll still count for $15M in dead money against the cap for the G-Men.
JPP contract - ( New Window )
Not really. It's a salary dump, not so much for this year but it gives us a lot more flexibility going forward. We pick up an extra 3rd which isn't great, the fourth is only a drop of 6 spots.
less, since we end up with a lower pick in the 4th
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JPP leaves behind a whopping $15M in dead cap per this trade, clearing just $2.5M in cap space for the #Giants.
Frees up a ton of space in 2019/20 when they'll need to re-sign Beckham and Collins.
And a bunch of cap relief.
No? They just got a 3rd round pick because they re-signed him.
Live cap would have been 12.5.
Dead cap is 11.25
Small saving indeed but not an actual hit.
12 million is small savings?
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Just $2.5M this year. But huge for the future because he's off the books instead of having a $19.5M cap hit in 2019 and $17.5M in 2020
Don't see him at #2, but Denver's #5, then 34,37, whatever after that. A nice '18 haul.
Denver's 1st or 2nd in '19, or whatever.
QB
QB
QB,
Barkley,
CHUBB.
So I think we essentially got the 69th pick this year and avoid that 10 mil in dead money next offseason.
And we didn't sign Mauro and Wynn for no reason.
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Live cap would have been 12.5.
Dead cap is 11.25
Small saving indeed but not an actual hit.
12 million is small savings?
The cap saving would be the difference between the two.
I took this from spotrac. May not be quite right given the other numbers in the thread, but the concept is the same:
small net cap save for 2018.
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Just $2.5M this year. But huge for the future because he's off the books instead of having a $19.5M cap hit in 2019 and $17.5M in 2020
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Live cap would have been 12.5.
Dead cap is 11.25
Small saving indeed but not an actual hit.
12 million is small savings?
The cap saving would be the difference between the two.
I took this from spotrac. May not be quite right given the other numbers in the thread, but the concept is the same:
small net cap save for 2018.
the real question is the savings next year...because FA is pretty much over this year (no big names out there). But what are the savings next year when in theory we have to pay OBJ
Even on Chubb, I've seen a few people compare him to a more athletic Chandler Jones. Jones got 17 sacks last year under Bettcher playing a mix of 3-4 end and 3-4 olb.
I keep hearing this. I don't buy it for a second.
They now have a ton of money to re-sign beckham. He's probably furious.
And back to NY. Bucs on our schedule this year.
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didn't get hosed. That's all we were going to get for a guy missing most of his right hand. And as others have noted, JPP doesn't fit our 3-4 defense, and is not an OLB. Chubb is also better suited for a 4-3, but we'll run a lot of 4-3 looks, he's younger, has all his fingers, and as JonC notes, the Giants love him.
Even on Chubb, I've seen a few people compare him to a more athletic Chandler Jones. Jones got 17 sacks last year under Bettcher playing a mix of 3-4 end and 3-4 olb.
If that's true, it's an important point. Chandler Jones was a huge part of their defense. Played over 1,000 snaps last year as a LB.
I think a trade down is coming too.
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high 3 1/2 for Gettleman!
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Chubb clearly is being targeted.
I keep hearing this. I don't buy it for a second.
I don't think Chubb is the pick, but Michael Lombardi made a rare good point, that he knows organizationally the Giants grading system will give Chubb an extremely high grade. I doubt Gettleman's changed it that much. So it wouldn't surprise me.