P Dot on the Fan

Denver wants Nelson at #5, interesting.

trade down looking good if that info is solid and Barkley goes #1.

Davis Webb’s agent doesn’t think a QB is at the top for the Giants

Cleveland. Let them trade up to 2 and we move to 4. We can get Chubb, Nelson or Fitzpatrick there or could even move back a spot or two for someone who wants Allen or Nelson.

draft.

Right now we have:

1,2,3,3, 4 and 5. If we can get another 2 and 3 or 2 and 4 that would be great, especially if we still get Chubb or Nelson.

In comment 13879703 jvm52106 said:

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Cleveland. Let them trade up to 2 and we move to 4. We can get Chubb, Nelson or Fitzpatrick there or could even move back a spot or two for someone who wants Allen or Nelson.

Why wouldn't we want who's at #2 or Chubb, Nelson or Fitzpatrick?

and the Gettleman ain't blabbing anything to anybody, regardless of previous favorite status. I like it.

if that's the case, the giants could potentially trade back twice once to 4 and then again to 5 and still get nelson + a lot of picks

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In comment 13879703 jvm52106 said:

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Cleveland. Let them trade up to 2 and we move to 4. We can get Chubb, Nelson or Fitzpatrick there or could even move back a spot or two for someone who wants Allen or Nelson.

NYG cannot miss this rare opportunity to secure a franchise QB. The Manning era is essentially over and its time to look forward, not be sentimental about prior success.

garrett and chubb

wants Nelson at 5, a trade down is going to be tough. We should have made that deal with the Jets.

that is maybe the closest kept secret in the NFL by individual teams, the fact that a reporter thinks he knows our board is batcrap crazy. He doesn't and neither does anyone else outside of Jints Central.

how he is still in denial that we draft a QB. Why is he so against the Giants drafting a QB that can be here for 10 years

Loooooooooong

I don't know why people even care what "P Dot" says - guy is a shill and a cheerleader. That's it.

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that is maybe the closest kept secret in the NFL by individual teams, the fact that a reporter thinks he knows our board is batcrap crazy. He doesn't and neither does anyone else outside of Jints Central.

Not entirely true, unfortunately.

I have not heard 1 person call any of these guys can't miss franchise qbs, not a single person...

There is no consensus number 1 qb that tells you something...

Are going to be really upset when the Giants don't get Barkley at 2.

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I have not heard 1 person call any of these guys can't miss franchise qbs, not a single person... There is no consensus number 1 qb that tells you something...

thank you!

In comment 13879786 nygiants16 said:

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I have not heard 1 person call any of these guys can't miss franchise qbs, not a single person... There is no consensus number 1 qb that tells you something...

Even if someone called them "can't miss", why would that make you feel better? Any time the sports world calls a guy "can't miss" is the time I become concerned that it's a bust in the making. The last time we "had" to draft the can't miss guy was Robert Gallery.

In comment 13879786 nygiants16 said:

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I have not heard 1 person call any of these guys can't miss franchise qbs, not a single person... There is no consensus number 1 qb that tells you something...

Darnold is probably going number 1 and is on a lot of people’s number 1 list.

DG and PS are going to make decisions on the QB based on sentimentality...?

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garrett and chubb

I’ve heard Albert Breer in 3 interviews on NFL Network since the beginning of the offseason. And he’s said that exact thing. Don’t be surprised if they take Chubb

they can pass on a QB at 1 and take Chubb, because they'll likely win 1 game again next year.

...not a lot of noise over any positions other than QB. They are going to conduct a remote radio piece from Laramie, WY for Josh Allen’s Pro Day, though. Sounds extreme, but whatever...
I would expect the Denver faithful to ramp up their rhetoric to attempt a trade w our NYG to get one of the big 3 QBs after the JPP trade. And I have to admit that the NYG seem to be sliding away from taking a QB.

In comment 13879819 JCin332 said:

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DG and PS are going to make decisions on the QB based on sentimentality...?

And perhaps DG/PS are also viewing Webb as a viable replacement for Eli at the right time.

In comment 13879666 JonC said:

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trade down looking good if that info is solid and Barkley goes #1.

If the Browns take Barkley at 1, It would appear that the price for our 2 has gone up, perhaps by a lot?

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but it's hard to believe we wouldn't like ANY of the QBs enough to take at #2, should Barkley go #1. That's quite a gamble on our part, especially since Darnold would wind up playing in our building for the next 10-15 years in a Jets uniform.

all sorts of media people picking up on it over the last two weeks.

So, it's either good info or a wicked smokescreen, which I tend to doubt. And, I say that as one who's been preaching for Darnold since last Fall.

Thank god you're not the GM. The Colts blew that trade. They didn't get enough. Not even close. The Jets pawned them.

At least in the media.

which I thought was directed to my post at the thread top.

In general, info's been all over the place, for sure.

I don't doubt the info at all, just find it a little surprising that a scenario may unfold where we have our pick of the QB litter and would opt to go elsewhere. That would be something.

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that is maybe the closest kept secret in the NFL by individual teams, the fact that a reporter thinks he knows our board is batcrap crazy. He doesn't and neither does anyone else outside of Jints Central.

Definitely true.

"That's quite a gamble on our part, especially since Darnold would wind up playing in our building for the next 10-15 years in a Jets uniform."

why should the Giants care where Darnold plays, if they think the alternative pick makes the Giants a better team? The gamble is missing out on a good-great QB, not where he'll play. If they think D is a good-great prospect, they'll take him.

Is it possible your info is what the Giants want people to believe? If Gettleman doesn’t take a QB he better pray relentlessly that none of them are good.

I think passing on a QB is what the foolish teams do in this league. I understand the argument for Barkley but we have no QB

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When he says Giants are doing X, it means he thinks they should do X.

I highly doubt his 3 targets. Chubb is a 4-3 DE. Why would Giants take him at 2?

They just signed a guard and reworked Jerry’s contract, resigned Greco. And Flowers is also likely a guard. Yet they are taking Nelson?

Also, anyone who says they are trading down is full of crap. You have to have a trade partner to trade down. There is no way Dotino or anyone else knows whether there is a match. DG doesn’t even know. So how could anyone else. I’m sure he will listen to offers as Will Cleveland Denver and whoever. But you can’t justmagically trade down and acquire a boatload of picks. And if the QBs are overrated, why would other teams being looking to move up to get one?

I completely agree with the reasoning that if the QBs are all so overrated then why are teams falling over themselves to trade up and get them. All these teams that need a QB can’t be so wrong on the QBs. I don’t see why anyone wants to experience the pain that is having no QB

If all these people are saying Chubb is what they hear, including on twitter right now. The Giants also have not solved the leaks problem.

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In comment 13879786 nygiants16 said: Quote: I have not heard 1 person call any of these guys can't miss franchise qbs, not a single person... There is no consensus number 1 qb that tells you something... Even if someone called them "can't miss", why would that make you feel better? Any time the sports world calls a guy "can't miss" is the time I become concerned that it's a bust in the making. The last time we "had" to draft the can't miss guy was Robert Gallery.

agree...great response

Have things set up in a way that nobody knows what they will do and that is exactly the way it should be, anyone that thinks they do know are just blowhards, ignore it. Gettleman is doing a great job, it is nice to watch a good GM at work.

In comment 13879666 JonC said:

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trade down looking good if that info is solid and Barkley goes #1.

I was told the Browns are going Darnold, the Giants are going Rosen, and the Jets are going Mayfield. Frank was told the Giants are trading down with Buffalo for a boatload of picks. We're all told a lot of things. None of us know dick.

In comment 13880591 mattyblue said:

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Is it possible your info is what the Giants want people to believe? If Gettleman doesn’t take a QB he better pray relentlessly that none of them are good.

There's been a regime change, it is possible.

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In comment 13879666 JonC said: Quote: trade down looking good if that info is solid and Barkley goes #1. I was told the Browns are going Darnold, the Giants are going Rosen, and the Jets are going Mayfield. Frank was told the Giants are trading down with Buffalo for a boatload of picks. We're all told a lot of things. None of us know dick.

Except I was given a lot of on target info the past number of years.

they may not get Chubb or Nelson.