Kimberly Jones
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16m16 minutes ago
Just talked to JPP, who said Dave Gettleman called to tell him he’d been traded to Bucs. JPP said DG told him it was “an offer they couldn’t refuse.” JPP said he is happy he’ll be closer to his son, who lives in S Florida. #NYG
Kimberly Jones
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13m13 minutes ago
JPP also told me: “Thank you to the Giants for the 8 years I spent there. They’re making changes; I understand that. Thank you to fans that supported me, and thanks for the great Super Bowl run that we had.” NYG
Kimberly Jones
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11m11 minutes ago
More JPP to me: He said he was surprised not to hear from #NYG until after trade was done. “At the end of the day, it’s a business. I know that.” He added before we hung up: “Tell everyone at the Giants that I wish them the best.”
Kimberly Jones
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8m8 minutes ago
When I asked JPP about playing for Tampa Bay, he mentioned going back to where he played college ball (South Florida) and emphasized significance of being closer to his son, little JPP. #NYG
Can you not be awful for 10 seconds?
A 3rd round pick for a veteran on a big contract who hasn't been productive is a strong return. Not sure what more you could ask for.
This is devastating.
$2.5 this year, and between 14 and 17m starting in 2019.
Also we need a try #2 WR and another starting CB ....
After the fireworks incident, well, he was still a good run defender but that's all. Plus, he was an injury waiting to happen.
Thanks for 2011 but not much since really. Certainly, the contract he was given was ridiculous.
All I can say is DG is totally reshaping this team. I don't think he's done doing that.
It is a 3rd and frees up a ton of cash. I expect Giants will sign Odell with the savings.
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Who else would keep you around for 8 years to be that mediocre? (Looking at you, Jerry Reese)
What a bullshit post. JPP was mediocre for 8 years? Completely false.
Lets see
2010- Bench player, so pass
2011- all star year
2012- meh
2013 - awful
2014 - got a lot of sacks in junk time, didn't make much of a difference
2015 - Pretty bad lineman he was next to...not hard to top Kerry Wynn (even with one hand)
2016 - Ok year along side a healthy Snacks and Vernon
2017 - did he even play?
So out of all that id say mediocre is way too nice
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Who else would keep you around for 8 years to be that mediocre? (Looking at you, Jerry Reese)
What a bullshit post. JPP was mediocre for 8 years? Completely false.
Its really not that far off. He was very disruptive early in his career but he just doesn't have it anymore. Whether its a physical thing (conditioning, fingers, etc) or desire...or a combination of both...JPP has not been a great defensive end in a long time.
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Who else would keep you around for 8 years to be that mediocre? (Looking at you, Jerry Reese)
What a bullshit post. JPP was mediocre for 8 years? Completely false.
Its really not that far off. He was very disruptive early in his career but he just doesn't have it anymore. Whether its a physical thing (conditioning, fingers, etc) or desire...or a combination of both...JPP has not been a great defensive end in a long time.
you're right. He was disruptive when offenses had to account for Tuck, who at his best forced double teams and still made plays. And they had Canty and LJ. JPP never became the disruptive force a la Tuck that they/we were hoping for. He never developed the technique to go along with his athelticism. The hand just made it more difficult for him physically.
+1
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Of course we do. It's what we do when it comes to certain players and upper management guys who contributed to Super Bowl seasons... as opposed to other guys who if you dare speak a bad word about them you get attacked like you just talked about their momma.
That's the point people seem to be brushing past. It was a shit comment to make to dance on the grave of a guy who was a key contributor to a super bowl win. But there are some people here who live for that.
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to bash JPP on his way out the door? We don't win the SB without him and was always battling out there. Jeez.
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Hilarious how some demand class from the players but show none to them players themselves.
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an offer he couldnt refuse? Gettleman must really think JPP is cooked.
A 3rd round pick for a veteran on a big contract who hasn't been productive is a strong return. Not sure what more you could ask for.
3rd round may be good in this situation but it's hardly an offer you can't refuse and it's definitely not going to sound like an offer you can't refuse to the player. Hey thanks for everything but we couldn't pass up a shot at the 69th best player in the draft. Sounds like Dave hasn't really polished up the people part of the job.
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to bash JPP on his way out the door? We don't win the SB without him and was always battling out there. Jeez.
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Hilarious how some demand class from the players but show none to them players themselves.
Where was anyone “demanding” class? He’s free to react any way he wants. I for one admire him for showing class, bc we all know he’s taken plenty of grief from fans and the media. I would have understood if he was a little salty about how he was treated too.
Personally, I always respected the hell out of him for the way he worked to come back from the injury (and recall arguing in his defense about it here), but also criticized him for being a no show on the field for extended stretches this season. Which he was....admittedly I don’t know if he was playing hurt a lot, always willing to concede there’s likely more to the story most of us fans don’t know.
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an offer he couldnt refuse? Gettleman must really think JPP is cooked.
A 3rd round pick for a veteran on a big contract who hasn't been productive is a strong return. Not sure what more you could ask for.
3rd round may be good in this situation but it's hardly an offer you can't refuse and it's definitely not going to sound like an offer you can't refuse to the player. Hey thanks for everything but we couldn't pass up a shot at the 69th best player in the draft. Sounds like Dave hasn't really polished up the people part of the job.
The player of course is never going to agree with the idea, but players are usually the last ones to admit when they're not what they used to be.
If there's a question where he fits in what they want to do defensively, and his contract hampers you in future years with critical contracts coming up, and someone offers you a quality asset for that much cap relief, it makes sense every time.
I like JPP a lot and I have a helmet autographed by him on my wall. But if his contract is any kind of speed bump in your plan for the team, it sure is 'can't refuse'. Contracts like this are not easily moved historically.I'm shocked they were able to not just do so, but get something of value.
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to bash JPP on his way out the door? We don't win the SB without him and was always battling out there. Jeez.
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Hilarious how some demand class from the players but show none to them players themselves.
Where was anyone “demanding” class? He’s free to react any way he wants. I for one admire him for showing class, bc we all know he’s taken plenty of grief from fans and the media. I would have understood if he was a little salty about how he was treated too.
Personally, I always respected the hell out of him for the way he worked to come back from the injury (and recall arguing in his defense about it here), but also criticized him for being a no show on the field for extended stretches this season. Which he was....admittedly I don’t know if he was playing hurt a lot, always willing to concede there’s likely more to the story most of us fans don’t know.
I think you're taking offense to a post that wasn't meant to offend you mfsd. There have been plenty of others who seem to expect a certain level of class be shown by a player or someone in management but rarely is it shown to them. That's all I'm saying. That post wasn't directed at you in any way, shape or form.
I think old Davey G took a long look
At JPPs film from last year .......
Wouldn't blame him at all for having at least some bitterness over his time here.
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to bash JPP on his way out the door? We don't win the SB without him and was always battling out there. Jeez.
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Hilarious how some demand class from the players but show none to them players themselves.
Where was anyone “demanding” class? He’s free to react any way he wants. I for one admire him for showing class, bc we all know he’s taken plenty of grief from fans and the media. I would have understood if he was a little salty about how he was treated too.
Personally, I always respected the hell out of him for the way he worked to come back from the injury (and recall arguing in his defense about it here), but also criticized him for being a no show on the field for extended stretches this season. Which he was....admittedly I don’t know if he was playing hurt a lot, always willing to concede there’s likely more to the story most of us fans don’t know.
I think you're taking offense to a post that wasn't meant to offend you mfsd. There have been plenty of others who seem to expect a certain level of class be shown by a player or someone in management but rarely is it shown to them. That's all I'm saying. That post wasn't directed at you in any way, shape or form.
My bad T-Bone - always enjoy reading your take on things, misinterpreted the intention of your post.
I think we’re in agreement about JPP - I admire him taking the high road when he’s taking a lot of shit over the years then finds out this morning he’s very expendable
I guess that’s better than a horses head in his bed hahaha
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to bash JPP on his way out the door? We don't win the SB without him and was always battling out there. Jeez.
Well said. Total career was inconsistent, but he was essentially LT down the stretch in 2011 and we don’t win that super bowl without him.
Classy comments posted above from him, well done
Hilarious how some demand class from the players but show none to them players themselves.
Where was anyone “demanding” class? He’s free to react any way he wants. I for one admire him for showing class, bc we all know he’s taken plenty of grief from fans and the media. I would have understood if he was a little salty about how he was treated too.
Personally, I always respected the hell out of him for the way he worked to come back from the injury (and recall arguing in his defense about it here), but also criticized him for being a no show on the field for extended stretches this season. Which he was....admittedly I don’t know if he was playing hurt a lot, always willing to concede there’s likely more to the story most of us fans don’t know.
I think you're taking offense to a post that wasn't meant to offend you mfsd. There have been plenty of others who seem to expect a certain level of class be shown by a player or someone in management but rarely is it shown to them. That's all I'm saying. That post wasn't directed at you in any way, shape or form.
My bad T-Bone - always enjoy reading your take on things, misinterpreted the intention of your post.
I think we’re in agreement about JPP - I admire him taking the high road when he’s taking a lot of shit over the years then finds out this morning he’s very expendable
No problem. I can see where you may have misunderstood me.
+1
This. The fireworks incident was unfortunate but all in all a good Giant, and a good exit for both sides.
The Giants freed up alot of space that they need now.
A Good spot for JPP...he's going to a good team that needs him.... Good Luck JPP!
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an offer he couldnt refuse? Gettleman must really think JPP is cooked.
A 3rd round pick for a veteran on a big contract who hasn't been productive is a strong return. Not sure what more you could ask for.
True, I mean, what did you think you're going to get for JPP and that contract....a one or two?
Not happening.
Wouldn't blame him at all for having at least some bitterness over his time here.