Which is more relevant when you look at the contracts. JPP will be in his 30's eating up $15M+ per year for two years. Ogletree approx. $10M per year in his mid-twenties.
JPP also has injury concerns and IMO overrated now especially when you consider the new D alignment.
RE: The Giant's linebackers have sucked for what seems like forever and Â
when they get a good one all you can do is bitch about his paycheck!
He really is not that good, though. You see that is the trick of this game, the guys you pay are the guys that have to perform to that paycheck; you can't make many mistakes with resource allocation with the hard cap and still be a contender.
for another, but perhaps the personality changes will be worth it.
That, plus it’s hard to assign exact value to the need for an ILB to be the “QB of the defense”, but DG and Bettcher obviously made that a major priority
Rams already had to free up cap space to sign FAs in 2018 Â
We give up a more talented older player who is a bad fit and has a disability for a less talented (but still talented ) player who is younger, a better fit and healthy and isn't as much overpaid - plus the 84th pick. I'm good with it. It should work for us.
Gettelman can show his mettle here where Reese failed. We can fill JPP and DRC vacancies here with some decent talent.
Or use the extra pick for additional OL depth.
I have nothing against ogletree but I think people are mixing up Â
"New guy that isn't the LBs we know suck" and "highly paid" with "good" or "really good". And the standard here is so low that people are gonna lose their minds when ogletree makes a single run and chase play.
We give up a more talented older player who is a bad fit and has a disability for a less talented (but still talented ) player who is younger, a better fit and healthy and isn't as much overpaid - plus the 84th pick. I'm good with it. It should work for us.
Basically in a nut shell, however is Ogletree that much less talented at this point in time? JPP is a shell of himself early in his career. He used to be a pass rushing force and very good run defender. Now he's a very good run defender and average at best pass rusher. Ogletree is more effective IMO.
is simply because the Giants (for better or worse) are moving to a 3-4. They needed a linebacker and JPP wasn't going to play like LT or Carl Banks with only 1 1/2 hands.
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
and (3) he has a bad contract, so the Rams were looking to unload him for a relatively low return.
He was cuttable pretty painlessly after the trade since his guarantees accelerated on the Rams cap, but the Giants restructured him to make cap space in 2018 and the result is he's no longer painlessly cuttable.
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
#2 is very important for a team, especially the D, where there was essentially a mutiny. It was like the Bronx Zoo with the Yankees - only the Jints couldn't win...
We got a 3rd to get rid of a high priced defender and only gave a 4 and 6
To get one.
We did OK.
JPP 29yo
Which is more relevant when you look at the contracts. JPP will be in his 30's eating up $15M+ per year for two years. Ogletree approx. $10M per year in his mid-twenties.
JPP also has injury concerns and IMO overrated now especially when you consider the new D alignment.
He really is not that good, though. You see that is the trick of this game, the guys you pay are the guys that have to perform to that paycheck; you can't make many mistakes with resource allocation with the hard cap and still be a contender.
That, plus it’s hard to assign exact value to the need for an ILB to be the “QB of the defense”, but DG and Bettcher obviously made that a major priority
Or use the extra pick for additional OL depth.
Basically in a nut shell, however is Ogletree that much less talented at this point in time? JPP is a shell of himself early in his career. He used to be a pass rushing force and very good run defender. Now he's a very good run defender and average at best pass rusher. Ogletree is more effective IMO.
Looking to add playmakers in the draft .
This makes sense. Trade down though?
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
and (3) he has a bad contract, so the Rams were looking to unload him for a relatively low return.
He was cuttable pretty painlessly after the trade since his guarantees accelerated on the Rams cap, but the Giants restructured him to make cap space in 2018 and the result is he's no longer painlessly cuttable.
A lot riding on his play.
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
also.. you could not draft an Ogletree in the 4th round.
(1) we don't have any linebackers who can cover and we're in the same division as the Eagles - that's a problem.
(2) He's a leader and has played in both 3-4 and 4-3.
#2 is very important for a team, especially the D, where there was essentially a mutiny. It was like the Bronx Zoo with the Yankees - only the Jints couldn't win...
don't see how you can say he's overpaid. we haven't seen him play one down for us yet.
hahahaha
We got the better of the two bad contracts AND the draft pick value without downgrading the player. I'd say that's a home run for DG.