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mort christenson : 3/22/2018 4:31 pm
the beat goes on.
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RE: Giants are definitely in win now mode  
UConn4523 : 3/22/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13880962 Big Rick in FL said:
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Don't think so


I don't know why its one or the other with some of you. Its both. We are trying to get rid of players who aren't worth their contracts, or are hurt a lot, or have shitty attitudes. Why does that mean they aren't both trying to win now and build for the future?
Vereen will be next  
RAIN : 3/22/2018 4:57 pm : link
and then Marshall.
This was the most obvious move of all.....  
Dry Lightning : 3/22/2018 4:58 pm : link
very, very worn out player.
Thank you DG!!  
Miamijints : 3/22/2018 4:58 pm : link
Total waste of assets.
RE: Vereen will be next  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/22/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13881030 RAIN said:
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and then Marshall.


Vereen is a free agent.
Guy played with a lot of heart.  
BigBlue in Keys : 3/22/2018 5:01 pm : link
Gave us some exciting plays during a few poor seasons. Took a bunch of big hits and often played hard through injuries. What more could you ask for. I wish him all the best.
RE: so with the JPP trade and Harris cut  
Beer Man : 3/22/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13880963 mphbullet36 said:
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that would free up about 5 million in cap space...enough to almost sign the rookies. Which means maybe Marshall is staying
There is about $7.65M in available cap space for 2018 as of now
No surprise  
jeff57 : 3/22/2018 5:02 pm : link
Save about 2 mill.
once again this is about next years cap  
Chip : 3/22/2018 5:09 pm : link
and clear 4 mil more for 2019.
Jerrah  
Paulie Walnuts : 3/22/2018 5:12 pm : link
Will sign him
keep em coming DG  
gtt350 : 3/22/2018 5:14 pm : link
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Absolutely made sense  
Jimmy Googs : 3/22/2018 5:17 pm : link
still a few others that need their pink slips...
I think other dominoes  
gmen9892 : 3/22/2018 5:23 pm : link
Have to fall in order for Marshall to be cut. I think he gets released after the draft, depending on how it shakes out.

The Giants dont really NEED him cap space right now.
RE: I think other dominoes  
gmen9892 : 3/22/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13881079 gmen9892 said:
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Have to fall in order for Marshall to be cut. I think he gets released after the draft, depending on how it shakes out.

The Giants dont really NEED him cap space right now.


*his
Liked Harris a lot  
JerseyCityJoe : 3/22/2018 5:31 pm : link
But he is a luxury we can't afford.
RE: Liked Harris a lot  
mfsd : 3/22/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13881099 JerseyCityJoe said:
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But he is a luxury we can't afford.


Yup, solid player. Kick return abilities marginalized with the rule changes, but still a pro bowl caliber gunner and had his moments as a WR too.

Overpaid and an obvious cut, but no gripes about his efforts with the Giants
Never panned out as a slot receiver  
widmerseyebrow : 3/22/2018 5:37 pm : link
Making the contract a poor one.
Good luck!  
trueblueinpw : 3/22/2018 6:00 pm : link
He was a very solid special teamer. Remember a few games when he really stepped up as a WR too. Seems like a good guy, hopefully he has a great post playing career.

Why do people think Marshall will stick around? I thought he’d be a cap cut.
Most overrated  
ryanmkeane : 3/22/2018 6:07 pm : link
return man in NFL history
RE: so with the JPP trade and Harris cut  
SterlingArcher : 3/22/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13880963 mphbullet36 said:
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that would free up about 5 million in cap space...enough to almost sign the rookies. Which means maybe Marshall is staying
From what I understand teams have to keep rookie signing funds in a separate pot. Does anyone have the particulars on that?
RE: so with the JPP trade and Harris cut  
SterlingArcher : 3/22/2018 6:21 pm : link
In comment 13880963 mphbullet36 said:
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that would free up about 5 million in cap space...enough to almost sign the rookies. Which means maybe Marshall is staying
From what I understand teams have to keep rookie signing funds in a separate pot. Does anyone have the particulars on that?
RE: RE: so with the JPP trade and Harris cut  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/22/2018 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13881191 SterlingArcher said:
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In comment 13880963 mphbullet36 said:


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that would free up about 5 million in cap space...enough to almost sign the rookies. Which means maybe Marshall is staying

From what I understand teams have to keep rookie signing funds in a separate pot. Does anyone have the particulars on that?


I believe that's true.
Marshall is the perfect compliment to OBJ and Shepherd  
Rflairr : 3/22/2018 7:19 pm : link
I’m guessing Shurmur has told Gettleman to give that trio another try
RE: Liked Harris a lot  
arcarsenal : 3/22/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13881099 JerseyCityJoe said:
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But he is a luxury we can't afford.


I don't look at him as a "luxury" at all - he's really not that good.
Harris is a tough dude.  
Brown Recluse : 3/22/2018 7:28 pm : link
Always gave his best and did what was asked of him.

These are the kind of guys I enjoy rooting for. Wish him well.
.  
Danny Kanell : 3/22/2018 7:35 pm : link
I’ll miss his 7 yard returns and fair catches.
RE: Marshall is the perfect compliment to OBJ and Shepherd  
Danny Kanell : 3/22/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13881293 Rflairr said:
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I’m guessing Shurmur has told Gettleman to give that trio another try


How anyone can come to that conclusion after watching Brandon Marshall last year is beyond me.
Really I’m  
NikkiMac : 3/22/2018 8:01 pm : link
Thinking Brandon Marshall should be gone too perfect compliment to OBJ ?
I don’t know about that I’d go with a younger player
His first season he was excellent  
Kyle in NY : 3/22/2018 8:27 pm : link
Two return touchdowns and contributed far more at WR than expected. But injuries took a toll. He didn’t bring much in the return game after that
Best of luck to Harris  
FranknWeezer : 3/22/2018 8:50 pm : link
I really liked him as a tough WR and a solid gunner. Appreciate his time with the NYG!
RE: RE: Marshall is the perfect compliment to OBJ and Shepherd  
Rflairr : 3/22/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13881320 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 13881293 Rflairr said:


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I’m guessing Shurmur has told Gettleman to give that trio another try



How anyone can come to that conclusion after watching Brandon Marshall last year is beyond me.


No one can judge anything by McAdoo's shitty offensive scheme. But you can judge by seeing Marshall's entire playing career
RE: RE: This is the right move but I liked Harris  
DavidinBMNY : 3/22/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13880994 Giantophile said:
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In comment 13880983 Chris684 said:


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The guy was a gamer and besides his salary, not part of the underlying problem with the locker room recently.

He would have fit in well on the SB teams he missed out on by a few years.

Best of luck to him.



+1. Harris was tough, was always a fan of his. I never blame a player who is paid more than people think he's worth, especially when he's playing hard.


Agree - he was electric and had a great season for us.
RE: RE: RE: Marshall is the perfect compliment to OBJ and Shepherd  
WillVAB : 3/22/2018 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13881442 Rflairr said:
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In comment 13881320 Danny Kanell said:


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In comment 13881293 Rflairr said:


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I’m guessing Shurmur has told Gettleman to give that trio another try



How anyone can come to that conclusion after watching Brandon Marshall last year is beyond me.



No one can judge anything by McAdoo's shitty offensive scheme. But you can judge by seeing Marshall's entire playing career


Agree on the shitty scheme, but Marshall got zero separation last year before he got hurt.
Marshall  
DavidinBMNY : 3/22/2018 9:33 pm : link
The key for me is Marshall a locker room + - or neutral? Given his talent, over the years, before he matured he must have been a -. Now if he's neutral you could keep him.

I will be surprised, if DG doesn't come to Marshall and ask him to take a pay cut. Marshall doesn't want to leave NY.

Plus DG has no ties to Marshall - not his signing.
Wow.....  
Doomster : 3/22/2018 9:58 pm : link
The support for Marshall is mind boggling...dropped key passes....disappeared in games....no speed/separation.....never stepped up his game with the loss of OBj.....
RE: Most overrated  
bradshaw44 : 3/22/2018 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13881165 ryanmkeane said:
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return man in NFL history


You could have said overpaid and I would have agreed just the same.
RE: Wow.....  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/22/2018 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13881506 Doomster said:
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The support for Marshall is mind boggling...dropped key passes....disappeared in games....no speed/separation.....never stepped up his game with the loss of OBj.....

I actually agree with you, but I bet Marshall could figure out how to use the quote/reply feature.
RE: RE: Most overrated  
giantsFC : 3/22/2018 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13881522 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 13881165 ryanmkeane said:


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return man in NFL history



You could have said overpaid and I would have agreed just the same.


Truth & truth

This was a head scratching signing from day one.
RE: Wow.....  
Giants in 07 : 3/22/2018 10:27 pm : link
In comment 13881506 Doomster said:
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The support for Marshall is mind boggling...dropped key passes....disappeared in games....no speed/separation.....never stepped up his game with the loss of OBj.....


He played 4 games. And didn’t he and Odell get hurt in the same game?
What a terrible signing  
Vanzetti : 3/22/2018 10:51 pm : link
Giants have no OL and They sign a ST player to a five year deal.

Harris was fine but nothing special. Good gunner and a mediocre return man
RE: RE: Wow.....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/22/2018 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13881544 Giants in 07 said:
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In comment 13881506 Doomster said:


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The support for Marshall is mind boggling...dropped key passes....disappeared in games....no speed/separation.....never stepped up his game with the loss of OBj.....



He played 4 games. And didn’t he and Odell get hurt in the same game?


Yes. Fredo is on a week-long losing streak of ineptitude.
Very good first season as a Giant  
Matt M. : 3/23/2018 2:52 am : link
both as a returner and, surprisingly, as a WR. Since then, he has been a well below average returner and has barely seen the field as a WR. The last 2 seasons he wasn't just bad on returns, his decisions when to field a punt, fair catch, etc. were horrible to the point he was worse than having a rookie back there.
And the Giants  
XBRONX : 3/23/2018 6:24 am : link
punt returner is? Glad is gone though
Marshall another guy highly overrated here. He did, showed  
Victor in CT : 3/23/2018 8:25 am : link
nothing except that he couldn't get seperation nor did he want to get hit.
There's really  
ryanmkeane : 3/23/2018 8:29 am : link
no reason for Marshall to be on this team. We aren't good, he's old, and he's also not that good.
this was always a bit of a headscratcher as a signing  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/23/2018 8:34 am : link
he had his high moments early, but never seemed like a guy that the Giants really needed.
He was terrific his first season here, especially as a gunner and in  
JonC : 3/23/2018 8:56 am : link
spot duties, but seemed to always be dinged and with dead legs the past two seasons.
RE: Harris is a tough dude.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/23/2018 9:03 am : link
In comment 13881304 Brown Recluse said:
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Always gave his best and did what was asked of him.

These are the kind of guys I enjoy rooting for. Wish him well.


My thoughts as well. Did everything asked of him here and always showed up.
RE: this was always a bit of a headscratcher as a signing  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/23/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13881790 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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he had his high moments early, but never seemed like a guy that the Giants really needed.


I thought a second WR was absolutely a need. Shepard's a good player, but this year has again illustrated that there's zero guys who can play behind Beckham and Shepard, and that's not good enough. You have to be able to not fall apart like a house of cards if you lose one starter.
I'd love to see Hurns Here  
Rafflee : 3/23/2018 10:21 am : link
I think he brinbgs an element they don't have...if he'll sign cheap...cut marshall
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