This Davis Webb Scouting Profile : Can this be Eli’s heir?

career backup

Is he?

We'll find out on draft day.

But all too many people on BBI write him off because they claim that the Giants have no tape on him (they have more info on Webb than anyone in this year's draft class), or because he was "only a 3rd rounder", like that matters at this point (it doesn't).

Give Webb his due, whatever that may be but don't write him off too quickly.

to evaluate Webb aside from his college tape. It doesn't mean that he sucks and will never be a starter in the NFL, it means they would be foolish to expect he will be without something to base that on.

When you draft a QB in the first round you have to let him play to see what he is because he has starting potential. Guys with starting potential usually don't last to the 3rd round.

You can hope Webb is the future, and you can give him a chance to compete in preseason to see what he is. But you can't plan for him to be an NFL starter without more to go on.

seems like a quality backup. I don’t think he has started potential. Certainly not franchise QB ability, but maybe I am wrong.

comparisons are almost never correct. They said Carson Wentz compares to Bortles and Aaron Donald was a "4-5 round prospect with marginal ability"

But they don't know, so it does NOT preclude drafting a QB at #2, and if they both turn into starting calibre QBs, that's a real good problem to have.

He works hard, seems like a nice dude, and his father coached him at some point in 5th grade, therefore he will be a star.

On a truthful note, this is exactly what I've been saying about the guy for a month only to be dismissed because he's "had a year of NFL" experience. As if playing against practice squad guys somehow increased his ability. I'm probably one of the handful of people that has actually watched several of his full length college game tapes, everything this scout says is very accurate. Especially his ability to read a defense and his wild inaccuracy beyond 10 yards.

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It comes down to this, Davis thinks he is a better quarterback than he actual is. I’m sure that he thinks he works hard at his craft but the truth is either he works hard and is not working smart or is not working hard enough. I think he could be a good as Jeff Garcia who was a good starting quarterback for the 49ers but right now all I see is the inconsistency of a Mark Sanchez. Every time he comes off his 1st receiver I hold my breath because I know he is either going to miss the receiver badly, throw an interception or worse throw a ball he has no business throwing because he doesn’t have that type of talent. For some teams I expect Davis has some value but for me, I would let someone else do all work and see where he is at after his first contract is up.

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Is that translatable when in the pocket?

In comment 13881194 Gothamist said:

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Is that translatable when in the pocket?

John Elway scored a 29.

as they want, but its not going to make it any clearer.

In comment 13881245 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13881194 Gothamist said: Quote: Is that translatable when in the pocket? John Elway scored a 29.

I acknowledge that. Is wonderlic relative to the player’s assets? Eli scored a 39 yet being a pure pocket passer with average dump off skills would he need the 39 for scrambling and dump off were extreme weaknesses..

All I know is that if Brock Osweiler is your pro comp, you're not off to a good start.

Eli has a wife and two young children.

In comment 13881271 arcarsenal said:

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All I know is that if Brock Osweiler is your pro comp, you're not off to a good start.

He earned a 2nd round draft pick, at least.

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Quote: It comes down to this, Davis thinks he is a better quarterback than he actual is. I’m sure that he thinks he works hard at his craft but the truth is either he works hard and is not working smart or is not working hard enough. I think he could be a good as Jeff Garcia who was a good starting quarterback for the 49ers but right now all I see is the inconsistency of a Mark Sanchez. Every time he comes off his 1st receiver I hold my breath because I know he is either going to miss the receiver badly, throw an interception or worse throw a ball he has no business throwing because he doesn’t have that type of talent. For some teams I expect Davis has some value but for me, I would let someone else do all work and see where he is at after his first contract is up. full provile - ( New Window )

What a weird scouting report. Did Webb sleep with his wife or something? Webb may never be more than a backup but, by all accounts, it's not because he thinks he's better than he is.

In comment 13881284 Sarcastic Sam said:

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In comment 13881271 arcarsenal said: Quote: All I know is that if Brock Osweiler is your pro comp, you're not off to a good start. He earned a 2nd round draft pick, at least.

Quality back up earning less than $2m is a nice consolation prize.
Who has good or improving market value is better yet.
But the we on the outside can not verify if Webb is their man, can we?

in the NFL draft.

Mayock's take: "I've been banging my head for two months that the Browns needed to draft Trent Richardson. ... They're saying this kid is so special, not only do we believe in him at four, but we're going to give away an extra pick to get a running back in the big-boy division. You play the Steelers, Ravens, Bengals -- bad weather, sloppy fields. What does this kid do for you? He keeps you in the game, he shortens the game, and he gives you a chance to win in the fourth quarter."



OVERVIEW
Richardson is a talented back who should garner a top-five pick in this year's draft, regardless of the idea that the shelf life of running backs doesn't warrant the risk of a top pick. Richardson is durable enough to handle a season full of carries, and with the new CBA rules putting a ceiling on rookie salaries, it will be tough for teams to pass on such a talented, polished back.

STRENGTHS: Richardson is as compact and coiled an athlete as the position has seen since Adrian Peterson. Richardson is explosive, powerful and balanced. He is a heady and instinctual player who is patient enough to wait for blocks and quick enough to cut backfield to daylight. Richardson has a strong core that he uses to break arm tackles and get physical leverage under blitzers in pass protection. He is a true three-down back who can be effective on screens.

WEAKNESSES Richardson ran behind a very good, experienced line at Alabama. He will likely prove that he has the talent to make plays on his own, but much of his production were yards on plays in a good scheme with a seam and an opportunity to get to linebacker and safety level without much trouble. He may have more trouble getting to the perimeter at the next level.

46 games, 2032 rushing yards, 17 TDs. Out of the league in three years.


OT GREG ROBINSON
"When I put the game tape in, the first guy I thought about ... Orlando Pace." -- Mike Mayock

STRENGTHS Has long arms and excellent overall body mass. Outstanding run blocker with the strength and power to wash down half of the line. Creates a surge and generates power from his lower body. Good get-off and body control. Excellent reach-blocking, chipping and releasing to the second level. Very good balance in his set and is quick to cut off the rush. Can maneuver his hips, shuffle, slide and mirror. Has a strong punch and replaces his hands. Very athletic in vertical sets.

WEAKNESSES Could stand to refine his technique in pass protection and do a better job finishing blocks. At times will quit after contact and let defenders come underneath or get over the top -- handwork is too passive. Developing eyes and awareness vs. the blitz -- still learning how to adjust to overload pressure and could improve switching off blocks. Aggressively overextends and occasionally loses balance and falls off blocks.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1 (top 10)

BOTTOM LINE Big, strong, athletic, overpowering left tackle with the raw potential to become a premiere, franchise left tackle. Is only a third-year sophomore and two-year starter and still must improve his hand use, footwork and technique. However, he is undeniably gifted and capable of walking into a starting-left-tackle job in the pros and paving the way in the run game.

-Nolan Nawrocki

Cut.

TE ERIC EBRON

STRENGTHS Releases cleanly and accelerates into patterns. Outstanding athletic ability and receiving skills. Threatens every level. Advanced route runner. Pierces the seam and is a mismatch vs. man coverage -- regularly bested defensive backs. Terrific quickness, agility, balance and body control. Catches cleanly off his frame. Makes one-handed grabs look routine. Wide catching radius. Catches on the move and has an extra gear to pile up yards. Excellent production. Will be a 21-year-old rookie.
WEAKNESSES Lacks ideal bulk. Can improve as a blocker, both in-line and on the move -- could stand to improve technique, physicality and finish. Not equipped to lock horns with NFL defensive ends. Inconsistent adjusting to and fitting on moving targets. Could stand to play with more consistent intensity and focus. Makes the occasional concentration drop. Ordinary touchdown production. Can be loud, boisterous and overly egotistical, which will rub some people the wrong way.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
BOTTOM LINE Highly athletic, highly productive "F" tight end loaded with upside and mismatch capability. Possesses the speed, movement skills, hands and run-after-catch skills to emerge as a playmaking weapon in the pros, though has room to continue developing as a blocker.
-Nolan Nawrocki
Released.

Maybe he is Eli's heir. I prefer Darnold or Allen. Don't like Mayfield, and Rosen has a history of shoulder problems.

Avg SB winning QB is a 30.7

Eli Manning 39

Aaron Rodgers 35

Tom Brady 33

Drew Brees 28

Russell Wilson 28

Joe Flacco 27

Ben Roethlisberger 25

really doesn’t look the part. I don’t see him as anything other than a backup

likely to be a backup

SCOUTING REPORT: Webb has the tools. He has ideal size and a very strong arm. He can move around the pocket, but he is not a scrambler. Webb throws a nice deep ball and can wing it through tight windows. But he is a project who needs a lot of technique work and more experience in reading defenses given that he comes from collegiate spread offense. He can be streaky with his accuracy and his decision-making has been questioned despite his intelligence. Webb is a very smart, hard working quarterback who loves the game and who is dedicated to getting better.

SY’56’s Take: “His size and easy throwing motion can get you excited, but he has a ways to go in terms of progression and learning. Webb is a couple years away and will have to spend a lot of time correcting elements such as a footwork, lower body mechanics, and reading a defense, among other things. Possible starter down the road, but more likely a backup… Webb is a hot name with some of the people I get to talk with…and others think he won’t ever be a starter. Nobody denies the talent, but he has a ways to go. I’ve watched every game of his from 2016 and he does the same things week in and week out that bother me. He has to completely change his game and while I think it is possible, it’s simply unlikely.”