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Thoughts on running backs. Opinions wanted.

Montreal Man : 3/23/2018 6:54 am
Are our existing RB's good enough to be effective with a much better O-Line? If so -- and this is what I'm wondering -- why would we pass up a QB we may really like, who may become our franchise guy, for Barkley? For any RB? A QB generally has value far above that of an RB, and probably for longer since RB's take a pounding. And if the O-line becomes vastly improved, aren't the guys we have -- with maybe a late round RB -- capable of being the running threat needed to keep defenses wondering on each snap and make Eli more effective?
Your question is based on the assumption that the Gianta DO  
Brown Recluse : 3/23/2018 7:00 am : link
really like these QB's.

Reportedly, they don't. If those reports are true, then Barkley makes plenty of sense. As do other options, such as Nelson, and Chubb...and a trade down.

If they do really like a QB, they won't pass on one.

I think its that simple.
Gianta = Giants  
Brown Recluse : 3/23/2018 7:00 am : link
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Just like Webb is not going to prevent us  
robbieballs2003 : 3/23/2018 7:04 am : link
from taking a QB we have rated as the highest guy on our board neither will Perkin, Gallman, nor Stewart with Barkley.

Barkley is also a do it all player that will do everything at a high level. I think Sy'56 said if he was rated as a WRs he'd be very highly rated as well.
QBs has little value if they sit on the bench for 1-2 years.  
Ivan15 : 3/23/2018 7:22 am : link
They have no value if they flop.
We need a playmaker at RB  
Sand_TheWedge : 3/23/2018 7:29 am : link
And that doesn’t mean we need one at #2. This draft is loaded with great RB talent. RD 2 or 3 would be ideal in my opinion, Penny or N. Chubb would look great in Blue.
Barkley  
Dragon : 3/23/2018 7:34 am : link
Or Penny in the third he gets to use his speciality tools early in the year then becomes the second back with the starters position his for the taking mid year IMO.
Especially in the first round you take the best player available  
BladeCleaver : 3/23/2018 7:40 am : link
By all accounts, Barkley is the best player in the draft. If he is there at 2 take him.
No  
jeff57 : 3/23/2018 7:55 am : link
They needs to add another RB in the draft.
In the case of the Jints...  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 7:57 am : link
building an oline is more critical than getting a RB. It’s simple math, obviously, with trying to stabilize five spots.

Barkley is a very good prospect, but he’s overrated versus his peers in this draft. There is a geographical bias playing out here. He’s northeast, went to PSU, is always on TV, was in the hype wave, etc. So Jints fans are swept up.

But this is a very deep crop with essentially any version you want. I’m convinced you can grab other backs at least 90% of Barkley and a cheaper rate. That’s just a better value play.

In fact, I’d argue getting a RB is maybe a 5th in the list of priorities. Maybe even lower. Fortunately, there are enough of them growing on trees we can address it later in the draft.
I think it would  
Reb8thVA : 3/23/2018 8:00 am : link
Be negligent not to take a top RB in a RB rich draft. Our running game sucks and has sucked since 2012-2013. As Gettleman said you have to run the ball. Gal man is a complimentary back not a featured back. We need another Bradshaw or Barber
@2 should only be for our QB  
George from PA : 3/23/2018 8:06 am : link
@3 could be for Chubb or Barkley
@5 could be for the person the Browns didn't take or Nelson.
@6,@7,@8 the four bluechippers - the four QBs.
RE: I think it would  
Rafflee : 3/23/2018 8:10 am : link
Bradshaw and Barber were both Drafted and Originally deployed as Role Players, not Feature Backs...and things have changed--- situational Rotations answer very well to all the skills that RB's need to add to an offense. Think of it like Pitching in MLB--- each of the roles helps the other be more successful.

"FEATURE BACKS" are interesting, but Not Necessary....look at the Superbowl teams and the Production they get from their backfields...that's where the game is today.

In comment 13881750 Reb8thVA said:
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Be negligent not to take a top RB in a RB rich draft. Our running game sucks and has sucked since 2012-2013. As Gettleman said you have to run the ball. Gal man is a complimentary back not a featured back. We need another Bradshaw or Barber
Hello MM, great to see you posting...  
Joe in CT : 3/23/2018 8:12 am : link
I feel RB is one of our top 3 needs, obviously if we were trade down or go QB, Barkley, Chubb, Nelson with our first pick then alters what we do at 34.

I happen to like both Sony Michel and Rashaad Penny at 34 because neither might be available at our 3rd round pick.

I know many want a C or OL at 34 but it will be interesting to see what DG thinks because if we pick up extra picks on a trade down we can could definitely do both imo.
Guice is the only RB I would take at 34  
jeff57 : 3/23/2018 8:19 am : link
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Your question is based on the assumption that the Giants DON'T  
JohnB : 3/23/2018 8:21 am : link
think Webb is the future QB of the Giants.

He may be and he may not be but to think that the Giants have completely written him off is a mistake on your part.
At this point every position is a area of need .  
larryflower37 : 3/23/2018 8:26 am : link
That's why BPA is the way to go.

Our first 5 picks should all start day one.
To answer the question...  
ryanmkeane : 3/23/2018 8:35 am : link
Darkwa is a capable back, but he doesn't really have any one skill that stands out in the NFL. Gallman seems like a prototypical 3rd down back/7-8 carries a game type of NFL running back that we've seen a thousand times. We haven't had a true difference maker at running back in a really long time and it shows
Chubb  
ryanmkeane : 3/23/2018 8:38 am : link
had a horrific knee injury in college - I know he's back now but another one and his career could be in jeopardy. No interest, especially in the 2nd
If the like a QB who is on the board when they pick  
Mike from Ohio : 3/23/2018 9:17 am : link
he will be the pick. They will not pass on a franchise QB -if they believe he is a franchise QB - for a RB or any other position.

If the Giants take Barkely at #2 it is because they believe none of the QBs left are "the guy" and that Barkley is the best player on the board. If they take a QB they are not "forcing" the pick. It means they believe he is a guy to build around, whether he sits next year or not.
A Running Back can really make an offense click  
Simms11 : 3/23/2018 9:22 am : link
as long as he has an Oline to open holes for him. The Oline has been an Achilles heel of this offense far too long. Are our current stable of RBs good enough to make the offense click? Perhaps given a better Oline, they could be. I don't think the Giants will take Barkley at #2, but I do think they will get themselves a very good dynamic RB in rounds 2 or 3. This class is very deep in RB talent and I know it drops a little after Barkley, but the talent is still such that if we still draft the right RB, he could still be the bell-cow or dynamic runner we've been missing. None of our current backs strike fear in any DC's mind, but there are some in this draft that could in fact do just that, Barkley aside.
Sony Michel  
XBRONX : 3/24/2018 8:26 am : link
wouldnt even be on my board. Big time fumbler.
RE: Your question is based on the assumption that the Giants DON'T  
Montreal Man : 3/25/2018 8:54 am : link
In comment 13881775 JohnB said:
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think Webb is the future QB of the Giants.

He may be and he may not be but to think that the Giants have completely written him off is a mistake on your part.


Hi, JohnB...

Not making any assumptions. Forget Webb. I'm talking about the current value of the QB position for us vs. the RB position given the unknown status of our O-line's effectiveness.
My opinion on the RB Montreal Man...  
EricJ : 3/25/2018 8:58 am : link
our RBs right now are average and maybe can play a little better with an OL that can actually block. There are RBs after the 1st round who can improve the team. There are also RBs that become available via free agency at times too.

QB should never be weighed against an RB who not only will split snaps at times but also will have a career as a starter that is half that of a QB.
Outside of Barkley it will be interesting to see when some  
Jimmy Googs : 3/25/2018 10:06 am : link
of these top SEC backs get selected.

I really think Sony Michel is going to be the goods. May be a little loose with the ball, but he is the explosive type that will be a better pro than college player...
There is a huge difference  
mittenedman : 3/25/2018 10:12 am : link
between a "capable" RB and a dominant RB that will destroy you if you don't gear up to stop him.

Shurmur's whole attack is based on the run. He's not a pass to set up the run guy. Follow his career - he's always got that stud RB.

You couldn't draw up a better RB than Barkley for his system in a lab. WR-like skills as a pass catcher and great vision and feel for the cutback.
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