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How would you feel if Josh Allen is the pick at 2

BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/23/2018 10:13 am
If Darnold goes #1 and we take Allen over Barkley will you be upset.

Personally, I am going to trust the scouting, and I have a good feeling that with a good QB coach, he can become a hell of a player.

Darnold is the player I want though.
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would anyone have picked Joe Flacco with #2 overall?  
Victor in CT : 3/23/2018 12:27 pm : link
because that's who he sounds most like to me.
This  
RobCarpenter : 3/23/2018 12:36 pm : link
I could live with any of the Big 3...  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 12:45 pm : link
at this point. I just don't want any part of Mayfield.

Gun to my head, I think I'm most comfortable with Darnold and Allen.

If I thought the NFL was definitely going the route of having the QB wear flags, Rosen is unquestionably the pick...
RE: would anyone have picked Joe Flacco with #2 overall?  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13882431 Victor in CT said:
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because that's who he sounds most like to me.


Not a bad comparison, but Allen is a superior athlete to Flacco...
The rest of the draft  
ghost718 : 3/23/2018 12:46 pm : link
RE: He is my fav QB  
Section131 : 3/23/2018 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13882030 Chris684 said:
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I love the idea of drafting someone with his size, skills and athleticism and pairing him with Shurmur and putting him behind Eli for a year.


We already have that... Davis Webb
Not happy...  
T-Bone : 3/23/2018 1:29 pm : link
but I rarely get too upset over moves the team makes. I usually just believe that they know what they're doing and trust they're making the right moves.

But I'm on record as saying that there are only two players I want at #2 and that's Barkley or Rosen. I don't know what it is but I'm just not feelin Darnold like everyone else is. If he or Allen was the pick, see my first paragraph.
KWALL  
ryanmkeane : 3/23/2018 1:33 pm : link
you seem to be throwing around some absolutes regarding the draft this year. You don't think Darnold is a great prospect vs Allen or Rosen, which would go against basically all of the NFL folks out there who have been saying Darnold is the #1 prospect. Why don't you like him compared to the others?
I don't think  
ryanmkeane : 3/23/2018 1:35 pm : link
Giants would consider Allen. Doesn't seem like their type of pedigree when selecting QB. Small school and accuracy issues. He's got the arm and size and athleticism....no question. But Kyle Boller had that. Can he read a defense/improvise in the pocket like Rosen or Darnold..I don't think he has shown that.
I forgot to add...  
T-Bone : 3/23/2018 1:38 pm : link
last night I was listening to 'Late Hits' (a Sirius radio NFL station show) and they had Brian Billick call in as a guest. One of the questions they asked him was if there was any pick that he made... particularly at QB... that he regretted (not what they asked word for word but that was the gist of it).. and he said 'Well of course everyone knows about Boller...' but then he said something regarding that pick that I think is very apt when discussing Josh Allen and why he (Billick) would be wary of taking him high in the draft. He said something to the effect of he believes they didn't pay attention enough to the fact that Boller didn't have a very high completion percentage while in college and that it followed him into the league. He said he thought it was something (accuracy) they could teach and improve with him but they were unable to do it. So he's seems to be firm believer that if a guy can't cut it having a high completion percentage in college that he won't be able to do it when he transitions up to the NFL.

Just wanted to add that.

He is literally  
GoDeep13 : 3/23/2018 1:40 pm : link
The ONLY QB I’d take with the pick. I watched all his games last year in 2016 when he burst onto the scene and this year and I think the Browns would be...welll...the Browns if they pass on him. Like what was said here before. Allen wasn’t one of these highly touted QBs coming out of college. No one wanted to give him a shot. He was told time and time again that he wasn’t college or pro material and he proved EVERYONE wrong. When was the last time ANYONE cared about Wyoming football? This kid is going to make a franchise very happy.

I don’t think there could be any better sign for the Browns that he should be their QB. The kid played on the one of the worst and most undertalented D1 programs in the country (That happen to wear Brown uniforms) and led them to their two most successful seasons and two bowl games!

Kid is an absolute gamer with fire in his eyes. I’d be thrilled and I don’t even think we need to take a QB this year.
Ha!  
T-Bone : 3/23/2018 1:42 pm : link
That's funny Boller's name gets brought up right before my post referencing him.
RE: I could live with any of the Big 3...  
NYG07 : 3/23/2018 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13882477 bw in dc said:
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at this point. I just don't want any part of Mayfield.

Gun to my head, I think I'm most comfortable with Darnold and Allen.

If I thought the NFL was definitely going the route of having the QB wear flags, Rosen is unquestionably the pick...


Just out of curiosity, what is your problem with Mayfield? Is it just the crotch grabbing and what not?

I've heard a lot of people on this board argue that he was the product of a conference that played zero defense, yet he won on the road at Ohio state in the regular season. Then, against a great SEC defense in Georgia in the playoffs he was excellent aside from a few drives in the beginning of the second half when they adjusted and started getting their pass rush to him.

I do prefer Darnold or Rosen, but I think if he were two inches taller he would be getting more hype right now, even though he is still going to go in the top 6.
One last thing...  
T-Bone : 3/23/2018 1:45 pm : link
Despite that I'm a Barkley or Rosen guy at #2, for the past few weeks I've actually felt that if the team is committed to Eli for at least this upcoming season (if not two more), then Allen probably makes the most sense since he'd be able to sit and learn for a year or two before getting the starting job.

I'd still want Rosen first though.
Doubt it happens  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 3/23/2018 1:47 pm : link
For several reasons

But I think he's going to be the best QB of the class so I'd obviously be pretty pumped
Remind me again  
TheShade : 3/23/2018 11:40 pm : link
Of how accurate a passer Eli Manning is?

Remember back when everyone was bitching about how Eli was throwing off his back foot when he was rolling out of the pocket.

And people seriously want to complain about Josh Allen's accuracy and mechanics? At least he has shown considerable improvement on them since his bowl game.
If Allen is the pick @ #2 for the Giants  
arniefez : 3/23/2018 11:43 pm : link
l'll feel the same way I would no matter who they pick whenever they pick, in case of a trade up or down. I hope they're right.
Plays small in big spots?  
widmerseyebrow : 3/23/2018 11:58 pm : link
He plays small all the time in the freakin mountain west conference.
Cold weather QB  
upnyg : 3/24/2018 9:49 am : link
He would fit best in a cold weather team. He's got the size, arm, and mobility. He would need to sit a year most likely, but I like him.
RE: He is my fav QB  
Jersey55 : 3/24/2018 11:01 am : link
In comment 13882030 Chris684 said:
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I love the idea of drafting someone with his size, skills and athleticism and pairing him with Shurmur and putting him behind Eli for a year.

putting him behind Eli for a years so he can learn to throw INT's better ?
I don't see him as a Gettleman type of prospect  
adamg : 3/24/2018 11:12 am : link
So I would be surprised if he's the pick. I would expect we've got a franchise QB though. I could get behind Allen since his athleticism is insane. But, he's not who I think we're picking due to questions of his football IQ. Sort of why I would be especially surprised if we valued Tremaine Edmunds on our board at the spots he's said to be valued (potentially top 10).
RE: KWALL  
Mr. Bungle : 3/24/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13882603 ryanmkeane said:
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you seem to be throwing around some absolutes regarding the draft this year.

This year?

Every guess KWALL makes is declared as an absolute.
Vomit  
TD : 3/24/2018 11:23 am : link
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