Ross Cockrell Signs with Carolina

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2 years 6.8 mill.

FUCK

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that sucks, he was solid.

I really wanted him back and for that price I wouldve been even happier.

CB is really a big need right now.

Disappointed we did not re-sign him. The other FA's we have lost all got more than I thought they deserved, but this stings considering how he improved over the course of last season

Reminds me of the Rangers and Anton Stralman from a few years ago.

but really grabby out there, I'm ok moving on.

but what else is new?

a draft pick

but was becoming overrated on this site. No big loss as far as I'm concerned.

can find a player to duplicate his play in the draft.

is discouraging.

I was all in with DG up until this ...

DG can redeem himself by using several draft picks on DBs however!

And he finally had a decent year last season. Byron Maxwell is also available.

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In comment 13882293 T-Bone said:

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but was becoming overrated on this site. No big loss as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed. And every steeler fan I know was happy to be rid of him when we traded for him.

In comment 13882300 ChicagoMarty said:

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is discouraging. I was all in with DG up until this ... DG can redeem himself by using several draft picks on DBs however!

What draft picks? With all of our needs, barring a trade down, I do not see the luxury of spending more than a single pick on a DB

obviously bad move by DG.

I'm not nearly as enamored with him as some, but he certainly showed enough to want to bring back.

He's a good player.

In comment 13882312 bradshaw44 said:

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In comment 13882293 T-Bone said: Quote: but was becoming overrated on this site. No big loss as far as I'm concerned. Agreed. And every steeler fan I know was happy to be rid of him when we traded for him.

To be clear... I'm not saying he sucked. He played just ok in my eyes and it was getting to the point where he was getting credited as being a much better player than what I thought he was last year.

...was really hoping to re-sign him.

Oh, well... we now definitely need to go CB with a premium draft choice.

Maybe he wasn't the best player, but he helped fill the cupboard and its looking pretty bare right now.

Secondary is a mess right now.

its not going to be good .... Ross was not elite but he was steady. Also we have absolutely ZERO depth!

Maybe my darkhorse is the pick (with a trade down) .... M. Fitzpatrick ....

It was in the Raleigh newspaper this am that Carolina was after him.
He grew up in the Carolinas and went to high school in Charlotte. He’s going home.

that the Giants would probably let him walk in that his skills don't match well with Bettcher's defense.

more than that. Wish we kept him.

In comment 13882341 Spider56 said:

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It was in the Raleigh newspaper this am that Carolina was after him. He grew up in the Carolinas and went to high school in Charlotte. He’s going home.

Didn't know this. There's a good chance we tried to sign him but the prospect of playing for the home team won out.

and cheap depth

those numbers would have been fine

he'll help with the comp pick calculations.

then screw him.

You guys way way way overrated him. He was OK on a 3-13 team. There is a reason he was available for a song and signed for next to nothing in Carolina. He's just not that good and in this 3-4 he will struggle because he's not a strong press corner. He's more suited for an off role than a press corner.

Seems like a classic case of overrating our own talent. A guy like Cockrell is eminently replaceable.

That's all he got.

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eminently replaceable...but now we have to replace him.

CB went from position of shit, to position of strength, right back to position of shit in about 1 season. So do we now "have" to go CB in Rd 2? Rd 3?

In comment 13882326 T-Bone said:

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In comment 13882312 bradshaw44 said: Quote: In comment 13882293 T-Bone said: Quote: but was becoming overrated on this site. No big loss as far as I'm concerned. Agreed. And every steeler fan I know was happy to be rid of him when we traded for him. To be clear... I'm not saying he sucked. He played just ok in my eyes and it was getting to the point where he was getting credited as being a much better player than what I thought he was last year.

Neither am I. Just pointing out that we shouldn’t be losing sleep over not retaining a guy that was borderline JAG.

since they only have 2 corners. To me it indicates:

1) they aren't done adding DBs, be it via the draft, FA, or UDFA

2) that DG is looking at the 2016 Apple and giving him a pass for 2017 due to his family issues and is expecting him to come back strong

3) they expect Jenkins to play like he did in 2016

In comment 13882469 lugnut said:

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eminently replaceable...but now we have to replace him. CB went from position of shit, to position of strength, right back to position of shit in about 1 season. So do we now "have" to go CB in Rd 2? Rd 3?

Nope. Not necessarily. Cockrell was a 4th round pick (#109). Maybe they'll use a 4th to replace him. Maybe they'll sign a UFA before or after the draft. Maybe they will use a premium pick on a CB.

My point is that the hand-wringing over the loss of Ross Cockrell seems pretty silly to me.

I thought he looked awesome last year. CB has become a premium position, and to land Cockrell for 3.5 mil per, seems like a steal to me. Coaching staffs across the league obviously have a different set of criteria which they judge CBs against than the fans do.

But we can't afford him. We're too close to the cap in 2018.

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To those saying Cockrell is a JAG, can you provide examples of matchups which Cockrell fared poorly in? In the games I watched, it seemed to me Cockrell got the better of his man over the course of each game, and I don't recall him giving up any big plays. Conversely, I can remember about a dozen big plays given up by our 1st rounder, Eli Apple. And I recall how just about every other non major free agent corner we have brought in under Reese has become burnt toast. So if Cockrell is just another guy, I hope Gettlemen finds a couple like him.

In comment 13882403 Joey in VA said:

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You guys way way way overrated him. He was OK on a 3-13 team. There is a reason he was available for a song and signed for next to nothing in Carolina. He's just not that good and in this 3-4 he will struggle because he's not a strong press corner. He's more suited for an off role than a press corner.

Yep. When he was forced into playing more and having to play in press/man schemes due to injuries and suspensions he looked terrible and took a bunch of penalties.

Of trusting what we have(no), does this mean 1 FA, and move Minka,James,Ward, or X, up to the #2, or if a trade 5,6,12?

In comment 13882502 IIT said:

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But we can't afford him. We're too close to the cap in 2018.

Could have easily afforded that

In comment 13882341 Spider56 said:

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It was in the Raleigh newspaper this am that Carolina was after him. He grew up in the Carolinas and went to high school in Charlotte. He’s going home.

Don't overlook this aspect.

Was the teams best corner.

And people were mad about DRC being let go wnen he was worse last season.