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Hypothetical: What could Eli fetch in a trade right now?

Tom from LI : 3/23/2018 12:59 pm
Let's say the Giants are enamored with Allen, Darnold or Rosen and they have an opportunity to trade Eli to a team that he would accept and is in a win now mode. (all hypothetical)

What do you think that trade could return?
What does that do to the Giants cap this year?
Do you think the Giants would roll with a rookie QB that they thought could play right away?

Maybe the 2018 season would be an accepted mulligan in lieu of another high draft and being ready to roll in 2019? Thus molding a team with lots of picks and needed young talent to the philosophy of our GM and HC.

Let me state that I was OK with keeping Eli and warming to drafting Barkley/Nelson and then seeing what kind of damage the Giants could do. But now I am starting to cool on that front and think maybe its best to grab the QB and continue to infuse the team with talented draft picks over the next 2 drafts.

I know they are not trading Eli, but with the JPP trade, it has me thinking.

I doubt anything...  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 1:02 pm : link
greater than a late 4th - maybe?

Even that feels generous. If a team had multiple 5s or 6s, maybe that would be worth the stretch...

He's a 37+ in the early stages of happy feet and declining arm strength...what's the prize?
Think about it from the recieving team  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/23/2018 1:06 pm : link
It's a big cap hit, a one year rental, and a player on the last years of his career who hasn't exactly been very good player in recent seasons. It would be irresponsible to give up a lot.
RE: I doubt anything...  
Beezer : 3/23/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13882526 bw in dc said:
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greater than a late 4th - maybe?

Even that feels generous. If a team had multiple 5s or 6s, maybe that would be worth the stretch...

He's a 37+ in the early stages of happy feet and declining arm strength...what's the prize?


I think a little better than that, but agree with the ballpark and sentiment, generally. Wouldn't make much sense. For anyone.
So, let me get this straight..  
Sean : 3/23/2018 1:07 pm : link
Sam Bradford can yield a first round pick, but Eli can’t get better than a 4th?
Guessing not a lot  
jc in c-ville : 3/23/2018 1:08 pm : link
The demand is simply not there with teams only a QB coupled with his performance last year.

The only team I could see acquiring Eli for a year or two would be Denver, and they probably wouldn't give up any more than a 4/5th round pick due to Eli's salary.
* Teams with only a QB away*  
jc in c-ville : 3/23/2018 1:09 pm : link
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nothing  
msh : 3/23/2018 1:10 pm : link
he has a no trade clause in his contract so its not an option
Thread number 200 on the same subject  
Bruner4329 : 3/23/2018 1:10 pm : link
This about makes it the 200th thread we had on this same issue. Eli is not going to be traded and now that FA hype is over and we are in secondary phase why would anyone think to trade him now. No buyers.
What if pigs could fly?  
ZogZerg : 3/23/2018 1:15 pm : link
How do you get pig shit off your car? Your roof?
I would think he would have the  
BigBlue in Keys : 3/23/2018 1:34 pm : link
highest trade value middle of next season if a contender losses their quarterback and the Giants are going nowhere.
RE: So, let me get this straight..  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13882536 Sean said:
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Sam Bradford can yield a first round pick, but Eli can’t get better than a 4th?


Two things Bradford - he was only 28, and Minnesota was desperate and stupid.

Again, Eli is 37+. You are looking in the rear view mirror where objects appear larger than they are...
RE: Thread number 200 on the same subject  
Tom from LI : 3/23/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13882546 Bruner4329 said:
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This about makes it the 200th thread we had on this same issue. Eli is not going to be traded and now that FA hype is over and we are in secondary phase why would anyone think to trade him now. No buyers.


its hypothetical... not saying they are going to.. but how many people saw the JPP trade coming..

I think there is some buyers out there.. this is all for not because Eli has a no trade clause... but what if is what I am saying..

DG is doing things I have never expected to happen..


RE: I doubt anything...  
One Man Thrill Ride : 3/23/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13882526 bw in dc said:
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greater than a late 4th - maybe?

Even that feels generous. If a team had multiple 5s or 6s, maybe that would be worth the stretch...

He's a 37+ in the early stages of happy feet and declining arm strength...what's the prize?


The answer is less than nothing.

Thrilly has been saying this for some time.

The market is ...zero. Even if you really, truly believe he's not in a clear decline, there are two insurmountable obstacles:

1. No trade clause
2. $40+M remaining on his contract

No team is gonna sign up for that, and the other 31 teams by now have a vet or bridge QB that they are equally comfortable with. And, equally important, QBs who have been paid (Keenum DEN, Bradford Arz, McCown/Teddy NYJ, Bortles JAX)

Eli Manning will either retire a Giants, or amicably force/accept his release in 2018 (not likely) or 2019 (almost definite).
RE: So, let me get this straight..  
ron mexico : 3/23/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13882536 Sean said:
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Sam Bradford can yield a first round pick, but Eli can’t get better than a 4th?


what was the contract Bradford was on when he was traded?


No QB openings at the moment  
jeff57 : 3/23/2018 2:00 pm : link
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Trade value-Elvis Costello  
RetroJint : 3/23/2018 2:59 pm : link
If you remember the song, you’ll know what I mean .
RE: nothing  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/23/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13882544 msh said:
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he has a no trade clause in his contract so its not an option

So did Giancarlo Stanton and Carmelo Anthony. NTCs are negotiating points, plain and simple. But combined with Eli's age, the idea of leveraging the NTC to get an extension with a new team does make it much less likely. And the presence of the NTC means that if Eli did agree to a trade, he'd get to dictate what team(s) he'd be open to.

But "not an option"? That's not necessarily accurate.
RE: RE: I doubt anything...  
NYG07 : 3/23/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13882651 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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In comment 13882526 bw in dc said:


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greater than a late 4th - maybe?

Even that feels generous. If a team had multiple 5s or 6s, maybe that would be worth the stretch...

He's a 37+ in the early stages of happy feet and declining arm strength...what's the prize?



The answer is less than nothing.

Thrilly has been saying this for some time.

The market is ...zero. Even if you really, truly believe he's not in a clear decline, there are two insurmountable obstacles:

1. No trade clause
2. $40+M remaining on his contract

No team is gonna sign up for that, and the other 31 teams by now have a vet or bridge QB that they are equally comfortable with. And, equally important, QBs who have been paid (Keenum DEN, Bradford Arz, McCown/Teddy NYJ, Bortles JAX)

Eli Manning will either retire a Giants, or amicably force/accept his release in 2018 (not likely) or 2019 (almost definite).


Please post more often Thrilly Nelson.
RE: RE: I doubt anything...  
Diver_Down : 3/23/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13882651 One Man Thrill Ride said:
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The answer is less than nothing.

Thrilly has been saying this for some time.

The market is ...zero. Even if you really, truly believe he's not in a clear decline, there are two insurmountable obstacles:

1. No trade clause
2. $40+M remaining on his contract



That is not factually correct. Yes, he has a NTC but that just means that he has to agree to any trade. The remaining salary/bonuses combined for the 2018 and 2019 season is only $33M.
Eli's Contract - ( New Window )
Something like this maybe....  
Jimmy Googs : 3/23/2018 3:48 pm : link
RE: Something like this maybe....  
bw in dc : 3/23/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13882990 Jimmy Googs said:
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I think we could get Guinness for Eli...
Not much I would think; likely a day 3 pick  
The_Boss : 3/23/2018 4:42 pm : link
He’s been pretty bad the last 2 years, his internal clock is fucked up, has happy feet, he feels imaginary pressure, and if you sneeze on him he will fumble the ball. And he’s 37. Teams all know of these things.
Eli's value is at an all-time low  
mrvax : 3/23/2018 6:22 pm : link
after playing behind a bad Oline and terrible play calling.
Then maybe we should go with the  
Jimmy Googs : 3/23/2018 7:10 pm : link
Bud Light?

just sayin'...
Nothing...  
.McL. : 3/23/2018 8:13 pm : link
Nobody would be willing to take on the contract.
Nothing  
section125 : 3/23/2018 9:42 pm : link
for a 37 y/o qb with a big contract...
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