Without going into the political aspect, what does everybody think of Facebook (along with other social media platforms that are similar) as some of this stuff comes to light? Just curious.
We can separate out the fake news aspect of it all, as well as how data was used during elections.
The real scandal here is the way Facebook acted after learning their policies were broken due to an unauthorized entity getting data, as well as their initial policy of allowing data scrapes off of people who didn't explicitly authorize it (they removed this from their TOS a year or so later).
Additionally, how they acted after finding out their TOS were broken with regards to improper access to data. And of course, all of this combined with how they present themselves and repeatedly hide from culpability from their responsibilities as a media company, data company, and advertising company.
while a lot of the banter here can be childish, mainly due to trolls or just a poster being set in their ways (I’m guilty of this at times), you can atleast have a discussion here.
There’s absolutely, positively, zero reason to have an opinion about anything on Facebook. My last straw was commenting a friends post back in maybe 2014 about Carmelo Anthony. I said the Knocks should trade him, they won’t win with him, etc. It turned into nothing but obscenities and threats.
BBI would probably get to that point if it wasn’t policed, and maybe that’s what this thread is about. But there’s is no redeeming quality of Facebook for me, just trash from top to bottom and anyone I need to talk to or contact I can just text or email.
But I do have it in my portfolio. I’m holding - thinking this will eventually blow over and the media vultures will tire - but concerned that we haven’t gotten to the bottom of this pullback and this could be a longer, bumpier ride...
...but the Cambridge Analytica 'situation' is well worth spending some time researching.
We are living history.
And I'll leave it at that.
Bingo...as I said this has little to do with the fact that Facebook harvests and uses information. If you didn't know that was happening you were clueless.
The issue is HOW it was used...in 2008, 2012 AND 2016. I'll leave it at that.
RE: I personally don't mind giving my own personal data for free online... Â
What's fucked about what Facebook did is that they allowed MY data to go to a third party if one of my friends took a stupid survey. This, right off the bat, is asinine. They did change these TOS at some point, but not at the time of the CA issue.
What is equally bad IMO is that after they realized the data was supplied to an org it shouldn't have been supplied to (it was allegedly used for academic research purposes, and that was the only authorization FB gave for the data), they did NOTHING to follow up on whether it was still in CA's hands.
My other issue with Facebook (and tech in general) is the way they hide behind this mask of altruism. Facebook is not altruistic, and they are just as much of a media and ad company as they are a tech company. They hide behind these bullshit platitudes of being a tech company that is creating something for the greater good in order to skirt the responsibility and regulations of being a media and advertising company.
Well said.
These SM companys come off like their shit dont stink and they are the dirtiest companies on the planet. Google, facebook, twitter, youtube all censor views they dont like and prop up the ones do. They also make a shit load of money selling all our info.
I quit twitter,
I quit facebook.
And i stop using google.
it took 30 seconds for my wife to set it up, find out it saved a bunch of voice recordings of her mother, and that was that. Didn’t want it in the first place, got rid of that shit real quick.
Eighteen enforcement officers have entered the Cambridge Analytica headquarters in London’s West End to search the premises after the data watchdog was granted a warrant to examine its records.
Four days after the information commissioner, Elizabeth Denham, first announced plans to raid the offices, a judge issued a warrant on Friday evening.
Denham has been seeking access to records held by the London-based data analytics company which faces allegations it may have illegally acquired the information of millions of Facebook users and used it to profile and target voters during political campaigns.
For a while, then it turned into what most other things on the internet turned into, white noise from idiots interspersed with horrible advertisements. I actually deactivated my account yesterday after a stroll through my "friends" newsfeeds. What people consider to be post worthy or note worthy is mind numbing. I don't give a fuck where you just ate lunch or that your 8 year old graduated from 3rd grade. It's not even remotely interesting anymore, I just couldn't care less what 99% of people are doing, thinking or thinking about doing. The only value it has for me is to see how my family members in far off lands are doing and even that's tiring at times.
I just don't understand that when a synapse fires, some people have to get it out there and get it commented on, judged, ranked or observed.
In hindsight it seems crazy, but how could anyone have known at the time.
We can separate out the fake news aspect of it all, as well as how data was used during elections.
The real scandal here is the way Facebook acted after learning their policies were broken due to an unauthorized entity getting data, as well as their initial policy of allowing data scrapes off of people who didn't explicitly authorize it (they removed this from their TOS a year or so later).
Additionally, how they acted after finding out their TOS were broken with regards to improper access to data. And of course, all of this combined with how they present themselves and repeatedly hide from culpability from their responsibilities as a media company, data company, and advertising company.
Of course they do, why else would the product be free? That's something everyone should have realized long ago.
What is NOT okay is another company getting your data because your dumbass friend took a mind-reader Facebook App survey.
There’s absolutely, positively, zero reason to have an opinion about anything on Facebook. My last straw was commenting a friends post back in maybe 2014 about Carmelo Anthony. I said the Knocks should trade him, they won’t win with him, etc. It turned into nothing but obscenities and threats.
BBI would probably get to that point if it wasn’t policed, and maybe that’s what this thread is about. But there’s is no redeeming quality of Facebook for me, just trash from top to bottom and anyone I need to talk to or contact I can just text or email.
Besides the abuse of both 2016 and 2012 organizations of it for polling reasons, its massive drawbacks that don't offset the occasional utility.
And Zuckerberg is a lucky, predatory douche, though that's neither here nor there.
We are living history.
And I'll leave it at that.
Bingo...as I said this has little to do with the fact that Facebook harvests and uses information. If you didn't know that was happening you were clueless.
The issue is HOW it was used...in 2008, 2012 AND 2016. I'll leave it at that.
What's fucked about what Facebook did is that they allowed MY data to go to a third party if one of my friends took a stupid survey. This, right off the bat, is asinine. They did change these TOS at some point, but not at the time of the CA issue.
What is equally bad IMO is that after they realized the data was supplied to an org it shouldn't have been supplied to (it was allegedly used for academic research purposes, and that was the only authorization FB gave for the data), they did NOTHING to follow up on whether it was still in CA's hands.
My other issue with Facebook (and tech in general) is the way they hide behind this mask of altruism. Facebook is not altruistic, and they are just as much of a media and ad company as they are a tech company. They hide behind these bullshit platitudes of being a tech company that is creating something for the greater good in order to skirt the responsibility and regulations of being a media and advertising company.
Well said.
These SM companys come off like their shit dont stink and they are the dirtiest companies on the planet. Google, facebook, twitter, youtube all censor views they dont like and prop up the ones do. They also make a shit load of money selling all our info.
I quit twitter,
I quit facebook.
And i stop using google.
I have been a happier person for it.
Oh and Amazon is the worst!
"Alexa....who is realy listening"
CIA bedfellows for a very long time
Eighteen enforcement officers have entered the Cambridge Analytica headquarters in London’s West End to search the premises after the data watchdog was granted a warrant to examine its records.
Four days after the information commissioner, Elizabeth Denham, first announced plans to raid the offices, a judge issued a warrant on Friday evening.
Denham has been seeking access to records held by the London-based data analytics company which faces allegations it may have illegally acquired the information of millions of Facebook users and used it to profile and target voters during political campaigns.
Investigators raid offices of Cambridge Analytica after search warrant granted - ( New Window )
I just don't understand that when a synapse fires, some people have to get it out there and get it commented on, judged, ranked or observed.
Social media - the new "Opiate of the masses" (religion was at one point - according to Marx)