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Teams will be enquiring about trading OBJ

Big_Pete : 3/24/2018 3:56 am
I don’t believe the Giants are actively shopping Odell Beckham, but at the same time I don’t think the Giants are ready to commit to Beckham at this time by giving him his new mega deal (how Beckham responds to this remains to be seen). I am sure teams have called Dave Gettleman about the possibility of trading for Odell Beckham Jr.

If a team offered Gettleman the kind of deal he can’t refuse, I could see a trade being a possibility. (Which is what I suspect happened with Jason Pierre-Paul).

The real question is which teams would try to make the deal that we can’t refuse?

I could see the LA Rams making a strong play for Odell Beckham. Les Snead has been active so far this offseason, they have decent cap room (spotrac has the Ram currently having a touch over $35m in cap room) and Sammy Watkins left without replacement. Beckham would certainly add an extra dimension to Sean McVay’s offense. The LA market would probably be a good fit for Odell as well. McVay will also be very familiar with Odell from his time at the Redskins.

What other teams do you think would be willing to try to trade for Beckham?

What kind of deal do you think it would take for Gettleman to consider trading Odell?
enquiring minds  
SHO'NUFF : 3/24/2018 4:04 am : link
want to know
It's not happening unless  
George from PA : 3/24/2018 6:01 am : link
There is a complete tear down....including Eli
First and 2nd this year  
section125 : 3/24/2018 6:04 am : link
and first next year.

In other words, it ain't happening..
I don't think anyone is commiting to Odell  
Rafflee : 3/24/2018 6:12 am : link
No trades or long term money until He gets on the field.

Personally dislike Odell--- but....amazing talent and production would make Me want to extend Him at big bucks, bit neeed to see the goods first.

I Predict big drama on his contract front....this year.
Gettleman  
Big_Pete : 3/24/2018 6:35 am : link
I don't think Gettleman is the kind of guy who will put up with Beckhams antics, or drama.

We should remember that Gettleman made the business decision to rescind Josh Norman's franchise tag outright. Norman wanted $15-16m a year when the Panthers were willing to pay $11-12m a year for a long term deal. Norman wouldn't budge and so Gettleman moved on.

Odell is reportedly wanting a $20m+ a year deal ($3m a year more than Antonio Brown, the next top WR). If Gettleman isn't willing to pay that and Odell isn't willing to budge with his demands, a long term deal isn't going to happen. Sure we have Beckham potentially locked up on one year deal this year and franchise tag next year, but Beckham wants his long term deal now and probably won't react well if he doesn't get it.

I do think Beckham could be moved should the right offer came along.

I also don't see Beckham's injury being a major issue, he seems to be doing really well in his recovery. I would expect he will be able to pass physicals in the near future (if not already).
potential teams interested  
Big_Pete : 3/24/2018 6:51 am : link
The 49ers are another team that I could see being seriously interested in making a play for Beckham.

No doubt there will be offers on the table. It will be interesting if any are strong enough for Gettleman to consider pulling the trigger.

What we do know is that Gettleman plays his cards close to his chest.


I'd like to see him gone but only at the right price which is enormous  
Torrag : 3/24/2018 6:57 am : link
Even unsigned to a long term deal it would take a King's ransom.

If Gettelman is serious about rebuilding the 'culture' he'll have to at least listen to offers. The Giants must be seething internally about his recent 'photo op' only weeks after ushering in the new regime and having a 'conversation' with this guy about doing things 'the right way'.
If it still a serious question I will give a serious answer  
Carl in CT : 3/24/2018 7:16 am : link
Atlanta traded a #1, #2, & #4 and a #1&#4 of the following year to move from the end of the round up to #6 to draft Julio Jones (an unproven draft choice). Some one above said 2 #1’s and a 2, I think that’s light.
I can’t wait until we give OBJ the biggest WR contract  
Giantology : 3/24/2018 7:16 am : link
In NFL history. So many heads are gonna explode
Why trade OBJ when his value is at its lowest?  
FStubbs : 3/24/2018 7:35 am : link
Right now we'd be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for the guy since he essentially lost an entire season. Would you trade a haul of picks to some team for a star who missed the entire previous season? If Gettleman did that we'd be up in arms.

Even if there is no long term plan to keep OBJ, he plays for the Giants in 2018.
'when his value is at its lowest?'...  
Torrag : 3/24/2018 7:38 am : link
You have no idea what his value is. Every poster who has advocated trading him has stipulated you only do it if you get 'your price'.
RE: 'when his value is at its lowest?'...  
Big_Pete : 3/24/2018 7:48 am : link
In comment 13883747 Torrag said:
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You have no idea what his value is. Every poster who has advocated trading him has stipulated you only do it if you get 'your price'.


Good point.

Realistically it really doesn't matter what Beckham's 'value' or 'price' is. One of two things will happen.

1. Gettleman gets an offer for Odell that he believes would be in the best interest for the Giants to pull the trigger.

or

2. Odell is a Giant this season playing under his fifth year option.

I don't expect a scenario where Beckham is extended this year.
RE: I don't think anyone is commiting to Odell  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2018 7:48 am : link
In comment 13883677 Rafflee said:
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No trades or long term money until He gets on the field.

Personally dislike Odell--- but....amazing talent and production would make Me want to extend Him at big bucks, bit neeed to see the goods first.

I Predict big drama on his contract front....this year.

For someone who supposedly dislikes Odell, you sure write about Him like He's God.
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Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/24/2018 7:49 am : link
The Giants have one legit "superstar". 1 guy that moves the needle, moves merchandise and puts eyes on the Giants (good or bad). He's also a top player at his position. Oh and he's 25.

OBJ isn't going anywhere.
FWIW - listen to the O'Hara comments  
Diver_Down : 3/24/2018 8:00 am : link
that he made regarding OBJ. He made some salient points that are likely to be overlooked as the thread title specifically addresses Flowers. And of course in typical BBI fashion, the thread devolved into a discussion on grammar/punctuation.
O'Hara comments on Flowers, OBJ, and The Draft - ( New Window )
RE: FWIW - listen to the O'Hara comments  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2018 8:07 am : link
In comment 13883775 Diver_Down said:
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that he made regarding OBJ. He made some salient points that are likely to be overlooked as the thread title specifically addresses Flowers. And of course in typical BBI fashion, the thread devolved into a discussion on grammar/punctuation. O'Hara comments on Flowers, OBJ, and The Draft - ( New Window )

Excellent use of the Oxford comma in your link!
RE: RE: FWIW - listen to the O'Hara comments  
Diver_Down : 3/24/2018 8:13 am : link
In comment 13883785 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13883775 Diver_Down said:


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that he made regarding OBJ. He made some salient points that are likely to be overlooked as the thread title specifically addresses Flowers. And of course in typical BBI fashion, the thread devolved into a discussion on grammar/punctuation. O'Hara comments on Flowers, OBJ, and The Draft - ( New Window )


Excellent use of the Oxford comma in your link!


Is that wrong? I presume you are referring to the second comma preceding 'and'. It is how I remember being taught decades ago in school. Of course, I'm old and can't remember what I ate last night.
RE: RE: RE: FWIW - listen to the O'Hara comments  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2018 8:16 am : link
In comment 13883802 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 13883785 Gatorade Dunk said:


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In comment 13883775 Diver_Down said:


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that he made regarding OBJ. He made some salient points that are likely to be overlooked as the thread title specifically addresses Flowers. And of course in typical BBI fashion, the thread devolved into a discussion on grammar/punctuation. O'Hara comments on Flowers, OBJ, and The Draft - ( New Window )


Excellent use of the Oxford comma in your link!



Is that wrong? I presume you are referring to the second comma preceding 'and'. It is how I remember being taught decades ago in school. Of course, I'm old and can't remember what I ate last night.

Some will say it's wrong and others will say it's right. I'm personally in favor of it, particularly when you're listing distinct items like you did. I was being sincere about the excellent usage; just wanted to add some grammar to this thread.
For a recent trade...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2018 8:16 am : link
For Brandon Cooks, the Saints gave up a fourth rounder and got back a late first and a late third.

Not knowing the cap landscape for all teams, and using the baseline above, the Jints should be able to fetch something in the neighborhood of a middle to high first rounder and a second rounder. I think Cooks s a very good receiver but less production and talent than OBJ.

I’d personally do that in a heartbeat. OBJ is not worth QB money. He’s arguably not worth Antonio Brown money. It’s abundantly clear around the league you can be very competitive with a core group of solid receivers than having these ultra-diva types. See Minnesota. See the Pats. See the Saints. See the Packers. See the Eagles. And on and on....
“You don’t give up on talent”  
TommytheElephant : 3/24/2018 8:19 am : link
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obj  
jurban : 3/24/2018 9:23 am : link
when hes a giant headache u do...going into his 5th. yr. still not grown up
what has he really done  
bc4life : 3/24/2018 9:40 am : link
that is that bad, so unforgiveable? really?
you get a running game  
bc4life : 3/24/2018 9:42 am : link
teams have to take seriously - OBJ will terrorize the league.
when was the last time  
bc4life : 3/24/2018 9:54 am : link
Giants had a skill position player that really scared opposing defenses? Tiki, Shockey - but even they weren't on same level as OBJ. They ahve never had anyone like OBJ.

Practices hard, plays hard, plays hurt. Targeted by many defenses with cheap shots late hits. Doesn't get the calls many lesser wrs get.

Think the cheap shots got into his head a little bit. This is where your team leaders on offense have to be avenging angels. See who is leading the attacks on OBJ. Then knock the living shit out of them even if its a late hit. I'm not just talking a "decleater" - I talking as he gets up off the ground he's tucking his colon back into his rectum. Then whisper in the downed defender's ear - there's more where that came from - you keep up the bullshit, I'll eat as many flags as I have to to make it stop.

Then you walk over to OBJ and say "Calm down, I got your back."

This wisdom is from Chapter 1 Verse 3 from the "Good Book of Hockey Goons".
the cheap shots  
bc4life : 3/24/2018 10:03 am : link
the gay slurs - that shit gets to him. That's why he does some of the silly, shit he does.

Gianst latest woes are about more than just talent. Giants need a heatthy does of crazed dog. In recent history, our OLine is probably the closest thing we had to that (Diehl, Snee, OHara, McKenzie, & Seubert).

Think about this for a second, waht do you think LT would have done when that scrub from the Panthers walked over and threatened OBJ with a bat?
Will need an Donald  
old man : 3/24/2018 10:22 am : link
Or his level player to start listening to LA, or get their entire '19 draft to listen to Rams, for example.
They will be 25-32 most likely this season.
I'm sure DG will listen if its a knock your socks off, because it better be; OBJs warts and all.
I  
AcidTest : 3/24/2018 2:00 pm : link
don't see OBJ being traded. He's the one legitimate superstar we have. He drives the offense.
RE: when was the last time  
torrey : 3/24/2018 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13883948 bc4life said:
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Giants had a skill position player that really scared opposing defenses? Tiki, Shockey - but even they weren't on same level as OBJ. They ahve never had anyone like OBJ.

Practices hard, plays hard, plays hurt. Targeted by many defenses with cheap shots late hits. Doesn't get the calls many lesser wrs get.

Think the cheap shots got into his head a little bit. This is where your team leaders on offense have to be avenging angels. See who is leading the attacks on OBJ. Then knock the living shit out of them even if its a late hit. I'm not just talking a "decleater" - I talking as he gets up off the ground he's tucking his colon back into his rectum. Then whisper in the downed defender's ear - there's more where that came from - you keep up the bullshit, I'll eat as many flags as I have to to make it stop.

Then you walk over to OBJ and say "Calm down, I got your back."

This wisdom is from Chapter 1 Verse 3 from the "Good Book of Hockey Goons".


Hello Quenton Nelson
If the price is right DG might pull the trigger  
TMS : 3/24/2018 2:48 pm : link
even though OBJ is probably the best WR we have ever had. Tremendous talent and potential but a big target of all the DB in the NFL because of his demeanor and temper. Not a big guy and a big target who could be injured a lot. Would not gamble by paying him QB money till all that changes and do not think it will. So you never know.
RE: If the price is right DG might pull the trigger  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13884328 TMS said:
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even though OBJ is probably the best WR we have ever had. Tremendous talent and potential but a big target of all the DB in the NFL because of his demeanor and temper. Not a big guy and a big target who could be injured a lot. Would not gamble by paying him QB money till all that changes and do not think it will. So you never know.

So, not until he physically gets larger then?
DG should be listening to trade offers from OBJ  
Jimmy Googs : 3/24/2018 3:21 pm : link
because the Giant offense is really much more balanced without him.

And Eli is certainly much more productive when he isn't on the field. Go check the stats.

Who the hell needs those dramatic 8-yard slants that turn into 75 yard touchdowns. We are much better off working the down/distance methodically down the field under our strong O-line...
I used to think OBJ was too immature  
joe48 : 3/24/2018 3:23 pm : link
I still do but he is too valuable to trade and is the only player that we have who is a game changer.
RE: First and 2nd this year  
Bramton1 : 3/24/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13883673 section125 said:
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and first next year.

In other words, it ain't happening..


Unless that team is drafting top 10 or 15, not interested.
RE: I used to think OBJ was too immature  
TMS : 3/24/2018 6:58 pm : link
In comment 13884355 joe48 said:
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I still do but he is too valuable to trade and is the only player that we have who is a game changer.
Not if we take Barkley .
Don’t outsmart yourself on this  
TD : 3/24/2018 9:00 pm : link
Beckham is our best player and under 25.

Trade him? Why the hell would we do that?
RE: RE: I used to think OBJ was too immature  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/24/2018 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13884606 TMS said:
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In comment 13884355 joe48 said:


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I still do but he is too valuable to trade and is the only player that we have who is a game changer.

Not if we take Barkley .

Yeah, who would want two dynamic playmakers?!

I'd be ecstatic to have one OBJ and zero TMS.
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