I have a feeling it all stems from the OBJ/Norman fight.
There have been other celebrityesque tweets, media, etc. that feed into it, but without that fight I think they are all easily brushed under the rug.
So I ask the OBJ haters, if the OBJ/Norman fight had never happened would you still be this upset over the other things?
I wasn't happy about that as well, but I certainly never thought that he should be traded because of that. Disciplined sure, but MacAdoo wasn't very good at handling those types of things.
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I don't know if I'd call it hate. Dislike probably. I don't know, maybe lifting up your leg and pissing like a dog after you score a TD might have something to do with it.
I wasn't happy about that as well, but I certainly never thought that he should be traded because of that. Disciplined sure, but MacAdoo wasn't very good at handling those types of things.
Some of it's probably from the Carolina game.
Some of it's from the get off my lawn crowd that thinks you should just hand the ball to the ref after scoring.
Some of it's from the seeming lack of maturity growth that he's shown through 4 seasons. No reason for him to still be getting unsportsmanlike penalties by continuing to push the line on celebrations.
The fight was one thing. There are also plenty of "look at me" penalties that he gets for showing off on the field that hurt his own team. The boat trip and then dropping pass after pass in the playoff game. The whole stupid episode with the kicking net.
People get sick of that stuff real quick. He's an incredible talent but he needs to grow up.
LT always handled himself like a pro on the field.
The fight was one thing. There are also plenty of "look at me" penalties that he gets for showing off on the field that hurt his own team. The boat trip and then dropping pass after pass in the playoff game. The whole stupid episode with the kicking net.
People get sick of that stuff real quick. He's an incredible talent but he needs to grow up.
Agreed Brown, 100% agreed... The issues get ignored here by many and instead they point at the person with the opinion claiming some race issue, some old person issue, some hater issue- instead of seeing that you can like someones talent and ability and just not like how they conduct themselves and how they put themselves before the team many times on the field.
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who don't remember that they rooted for LT
LT always handled himself like a pro on the field.
LT was all about winning on the field. He played with injuries, bad ones to do all that he could to have the team win.
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I don't know if I'd call it hate. Dislike probably. I don't know, maybe lifting up your leg and pissing like a dog after you score a TD might have something to do with it.
I wasn't happy about that as well, but I certainly never thought that he should be traded because of that. Disciplined sure, but MacAdoo wasn't very good at handling those types of things.
I wasn't in favor of trading him. But if he intends to hold out, and doesn't intend to show more maturity, might as well.
I hate who LT has become away from football.
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who don't remember that they rooted for LT
LT always handled himself like a pro on the field.
LT was all about winning on the field. He played with injuries, bad ones to do all that he could to have the team win.
LT also got a drug suspension for 4 games in 1988, when the Giants missed the playoffs by one game. I'll take LT over Beckham any day of the week, but let's not act like he never ever hurt his team.
What the fuck are some of you talking about?
This thread is further evidence that the only delusional people around her are the ones who have gotten to the point of generalization and accusation of those who feel differently about the guy.
Some of you need to get real. This is a football player who brings a lot of this on himself. Not your little brother getting picked on by a bully.
Get off my lawn...and pull your pants up...and put your phone down once in a while...and stop eating laundry detergent.
I don't think he is worth a 18M AAV contract from the Giants. Assuming salary cap around $180M...that is 10% of the Giants cap space. I don't think a WR (any WR) is worth that much. I'd rather that cap space be divided up between 3-4 players who can fill holes and provide needed depth.
What the fuck are some of you talking about?
This thread is further evidence that the only delusional people around her are the ones who have gotten to the point of generalization and accusation of those who feel differently about the guy.
Some of you need to get real. This is a football player who brings a lot of this on himself. Not your little brother getting picked on by a bully.
Amen.
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who don't remember that they rooted for LT
LT always handled himself like a pro on the field.
LOL....imagine if this was a quote from OBJ instead of LT:
''Through much of this, I thought I could still play good ball. . . . I knew that I was no longer going at 100 percent. But I also knew that my 75 percent was better than most other guys' 100 percent.
LT the Saint - ( New Window )
I dont think anyone wants him gone, they just want him to straighten up and stop being a clown. And I get the sense that his leash will not be as long with Gettleman as it was with Reese.
I hope he retires a Giant. But he needs to grow up a bit.
You mean the game where our Top 5 defense gave up 38 points?
People make it seem like we had the game won and Beckham fucked it up. The whole team played like shit that day. Would his dropped TD have changed the game? Of course. Not letting Randall Cobb go untouched in the endzone for a 60 yard hail mary at the end of the half could have changed the game too.
A kicking net? Really? That was the media's obsession, as was Beckham's (incorrect) reaction to him being targeted in the Carolina game. Nobody is saying he's a saint, but some of these "controversies" are caused by other parties.
pissing like a dog
fighting
the net
over the top endzone celebrations
taking his helmet off on the field seemingly at every opportunity-to show off his hair?
Some people prefer a more traditional entertainer
I think many fans need to do some self reflection. I’ll leave it at that.
Oh wait... nevermind... I get it now.
He is also hard working, a good teammate, and a dynamic player. But spearing a player in the head, peeing like a dog, baby tantrums on the sideline, amongst other thing dont sit well with people.
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seemed to serve as a flashpoint for much of the opinion swing against him.
You mean the game where our Top 5 defense gave up 38 points?
People make it seem like we had the game won and Beckham fucked it up. The whole team played like shit that day. Would his dropped TD have changed the game? Of course. Not letting Randall Cobb go untouched in the endzone for a 60 yard hail mary at the end of the half could have changed the game too.
A kicking net? Really? That was the media's obsession, as was Beckham's (incorrect) reaction to him being targeted in the Carolina game. Nobody is saying he's a saint, but some of these "controversies" are caused by other parties.
See, you're making excuses for him. It doesn't matter what the defense gave up or how the rest of the team played. We're talking about Odell. And he came up short. Add that into everything else, and its not difficult to understand why some fans don't have a lot of patience with him.
As far as the kicking net, yes the media made it into a thing. But his attention-seeking proposal (on more than one occasion - as if once wasn't bad enough) was cringeworthy, and is a perfect example of how he has to be the center of attention and put himself above everyone else.
I'm sure he loves football and I'm sure his teammates enjoy him. He's an amazing talent. But he needs to grow up. Or he won't be on this team anymore. Simple as that.
Ihhh, he broke his ankle. How much more hurt does he need to be? He also took the league by storm his rookie year playing through a pulled hamstring.
I’m fine with people not liking the guy, but Christ is this a horrible take on him.
Beckham is a man child in many ways. He behaves like a kid. LT was a man with a serious problem (brought on by himself).
I think many fans need to do some self reflection. I’ll leave it at that.
First of all I think Brown Recluse has it explained the best. Second, sometimes it IS detrimental to the team. Norman incident for one.
sometimes people are so blinded by their own racist thoughts or tendencies they project it on everyone else. Yes, I'm calling you out adamg.
Not everything is about race.
I am a Beckham fan, I don't care about the off-field stuff, I don't care if he's a saint, I don't care if he visits hospitals or donates a kidney to a sick kid, or if he's having jumpsuit parties with Drake or Gronk or snorting lines off a hookers ass, goes on boat trips or anywhere else. Don't care.
I care only about the on-field performance. period. with Beckham, with Eli, and everyone else while they're in a Giants uniform.
I'd like the Giants to re-sign Beckham, I want him to end his career has an all-time Giants great and all time NFL great and eventually make it to the HOF as a career Giant with some super bowl rings.
I prefer when he plays his emotions don't cost the team field position like when he pees like a dog after a TD catch, or spears defenseless players in the head, but if he doesn't draw a flag for it, I don't care how he celebrates or how emotional he is.
I don't care what color my skin is or his is, I doubt my philosophy of rooting for laundry ever changes.
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On this thread and I question his toughness. Part of me doesn’t believe he was hurt as bad as he lead on. I have no real proof it’s just my gut. Probably feel that way because he is such a Premadonna.
Ihhh, he broke his ankle. How much more hurt does he need to be? He also took the league by storm his rookie year playing through a pulled hamstring.
I’m fine with people not liking the guy, but Christ is this a horrible take on him.
Is it worse than this?
Gets worse and worse here everyday.
Good post pjcas.