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BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

Matt G : 4/1/2018 10:46 pm
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the SELECTIONS thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the entire draft.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (i.e.: Philadelphia Eagles won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year). If a GM misses two consecutive picks without providing a prospect list or making some form of contact with me (email or posting on the draft thread) the spot will be reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy.

Please utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet . The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list of both available and taken prospects based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible.
Good luck, Hoya  
Anakim : 4/1/2018 11:04 pm : link
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Bump  
section125 : 4/2/2018 6:24 am : link
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Pittsburgh  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 6:29 am : link
GM checking in.
"Let's get it ON!"  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2018 7:18 am : link
Man, Denver can go so many ways in this draft  
jlukes : 4/2/2018 7:58 am : link
depending on what plays out before them. So excited.
Houston may not be picking until the 3rd round  
Boatie Warrant : 4/2/2018 7:59 am : link
But I will make sure the count!
RE: Good luck, Hoya  
bigbluehoya : 4/2/2018 8:06 am : link
In comment 13896366 Anakim said:
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‘Nak!!! Good to see you back around these parts. Hope all is well with you.
Ok I wil come out and say it.  
superspynyg : 4/2/2018 8:23 am : link
Andy you better not fuck up the Giants pick!!!
The same BBI members pick for the same teams  
Motley Two : 4/2/2018 8:36 am : link
each year right?
RE: The same BBI members pick for the same teams  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 8:44 am : link
In comment 13896470 Motley Two said:
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each year right?


Yes, unless they wish to change teams to an open team or do not sign up again for the following draft
Mass email went out last night...  
Matt G : 4/2/2018 9:00 am : link
And reminder email was sent to CLE this am
No pressure Andy  
TommytheElephant : 4/2/2018 9:09 am : link
Just one request
Don’t fuck this up
Glad to be back  
sjnyfan : 4/2/2018 9:23 am : link
doing another year. In the spirit of Russell Wilson, Go Hawks
Back for JJ And the ‘boys  
Rick in Dallas : 4/2/2018 9:31 am : link
It might be time to draft Dez replacement.
The Cowboys and Dez are supposed to meet soon to talk about his contract.
NFL best writers covering the Cowboys in Dallas think that Dez is going to get cut.
And Cleveland starts it off with a controversial selection  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 10:01 am : link
Barkley at #1.

Very interesting. I doubt it will go that way in the actual draft, but that's what's great about our Mock. We can pick who we think is the best player whether it is the likely selection or not. Based solely on our judgement. Nice start.
Hmmm, was not expecting that.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:01 am : link
...

but I'm here and will make my pick in a sec.
Im not a fan of that pick for clev  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/2/2018 10:03 am : link
this will now be a run on the qbs

im predicting next 3 will be qbs

my guess
darnold
rosen
allen
chubb
nelson
In a no-trades mock draft, isn’t Barkley almost mandatory at #1?  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 10:04 am : link
In real life, the Browns probably have such a strong conviction about Darnold/Allen/Rosen that they go QB at #1, and/or trade up from #4 to get Barkley and their preferred QB. In these circumstances, though, I think Barkley makes the most sense. Then Lionheart can claim that whoever he gets at #4 was the QB he wanted all along.

TL/DR version: Good pick Lionheart. Well done.
Don't like the pick for CLE either...  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 10:10 am : link
This would be under the assumption ClE either does not like any of the QB's, has 3 or more of the QB's ranked similar (both unlikely IMO) orrrrr is just CLE being CLE and passing on another franchise QB.

I would have thought to get this ship righted, you make a strong stance on cementing the path by getting "your" guy for the future by taking the QB at one.

Let's see what they get at 4!
***With the second pick in the 2018 BBI mock draft,  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:11 am : link
the New York Giants are proud to select:
Sam Darnold, QB USC

shit, wrong thread, lol  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:11 am : link
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With Hyde on the team I don't see CLE going for Barkley  
PatersonPlank : 4/2/2018 10:12 am : link
Hyde is a damn good back and still pretty young. I think they go QB at #1, and then BPA at #4.
If CLE likes Allen  
Bill L : 4/2/2018 10:13 am : link
then this is probably the most logical move.
RE: ***With the second pick in the 2018 BBI mock draft,  
Bill L : 4/2/2018 10:14 am : link
In comment 13896573 Andy in Halifax said:
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the New York Giants are proud to select:
Sam Darnold, QB USC

Check your tires. Haven't seen Milton here in a while.
I like Rosen and Mayfield a lot too.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:15 am : link
Darnold isn't as good of a passer right now compared to the other two but I think that can be improved with coaching. His mobility, arm strength and leadership qualities make him an outstanding QB prospect but his development will be critical. I see a bust risk but I also see a chance of greatness.
RE: I like Rosen and Mayfield a lot too.  
Bill L : 4/2/2018 10:16 am : link
In comment 13896587 Andy in Halifax said:
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Darnold isn't as good of a passer right now compared to the other two but I think that can be improved with coaching. His mobility, arm strength and leadership qualities make him an outstanding QB prospect but his development will be critical. I see a bust risk but I also see a chance of greatness.
Just curious...if you were allowed to trade after the CLE pick, would you have?
Rosen is the better passer right now  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:17 am : link
but not nearly as athletic and has injury concerns. If Rosen stays healthy I think he's the best QB in this class, but that injury risk was enough for me to take Darnold.
Honestly, I’m not in love with any of the QBs.  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 10:18 am : link
Barkley is in another tier than any of them and will be such a big help to whatever young qb we acquire that we couldn’t pass. He’s a great kid, a tireless worker and oh yeah a physical freak. He makes our offense better day one.

For the most part, I haven’t taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesn’t need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.
RE: RE: I like Rosen and Mayfield a lot too.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/2/2018 10:19 am : link
In comment 13896589 Bill L said:
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Darnold isn't as good of a passer right now compared to the other two but I think that can be improved with coaching. His mobility, arm strength and leadership qualities make him an outstanding QB prospect but his development will be critical. I see a bust risk but I also see a chance of greatness.

Just curious...if you were allowed to trade after the CLE pick, would you have?
In a mock draft where teams that accumulate the most top prospects are often seen as the winner, sure. I would have traded back to #4 if Cleveland wanted to move up and then take Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold.

In real life, getting a franchise QB is so important I would have spent months collecting date and had a firm conclusion as to the best QB in the class and I would have stayed at #2 and picked him.
Darnold has the tools to be great...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 10:20 am : link
...and he’s cleaner physically than the other two QBs. Probably the right pick.

IRL, I think a trade-down is more likely, because the Giants seem to think Eli can rebound and give them two more good years. But that could be a smokescreen or just Plan 1A, with a quick transition to a rookie being Plan 1B.
Barkley going first  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/2/2018 10:20 am : link
really works out for the jets
WRT trading down from #2...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 10:29 am : link
... there are too many variables to allow a simple answer: How far? What price? How do they really view Eli, the various QBs, plus Chubb, Nelson, and other blue/red chip prospects? It’s easy enough to say, “Trade down to 4 and still get a prime QB” or “Trade down to 5/6 and still get a top prospect.” But there are assumptions embedded in each of those ideas that might be completely wrong.
RE: Honestly, I’m not in love with any of the QBs.  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13896592 Lionhart28 said:
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Barkley is in another tier than any of them and will be such a big help to whatever young qb we acquire that we couldn’t pass. He’s a great kid, a tireless worker and oh yeah a physical freak. He makes our offense better day one.

For the most part, I haven’t taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesn’t need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.


Great analysis. And if you do not love any of the QB's, he's the no brainer. Barkley is so good and such a rare talent, he is going to shine. This could actually play out really well for CLE in this mock depending on what happens at 4. Could possibly get Allen and he could have been the guy you wanted out of the QB's. Especially Taylor giving him some breathing room to learn.
RE: Barkley going first  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 10:35 am : link
Joey from GlenCove said:
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really works out for the jets
I don’t think it makes a huge difference, unless NYJ have two QBs rated very closely. If they have a clear favorite, they still have to get to #2 to be sure of landing their guy.
darnold  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 10:36 am : link
is talented, but man is he hectic in the pocket. feet are constantly jumping around - I wouldn't say "happy feet" because he's very good at keeping his eyes focused down the field, and one could argue it enables him to escape quickly...but I've seen a lot of throws where he just doesn't seem set, and it hurts his accuracy and velocity

I prefer Rosen on tape by a good margin, but of course personality and injury concerns I can't answer
Barkley sepeates himself  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 10:38 am : link
as a receiver. There are a few backs with great skills, but this kid runs routes like a seasoned pro and explodes after the catch. He's a crazy weapon that must have OC's drooling.

Oh man can the Jets just pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 10:54 am : link
already?
Interesting to note that the auto-pick at #3 is also the obvious pick.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 10:55 am : link
Probably doesn’t matter whether Jon is on line or not. Unless he has a hard-on for Allen, the Jets’ new QB is Josh Rosen. That seems likely in real-life too, and it may well be the reason the Jets targeted the #3 slot. There’s obviously some risk that their guy goes in the first two picks; but either they are comfortable with that risk or they don’t have a clear favorite.
RE: Honestly, I’m not in love with any of the QBs.  
allstarjim : 4/2/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 13896592 Lionhart28 said:
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Barkley is in another tier than any of them and will be such a big help to whatever young qb we acquire that we couldn’t pass. He’s a great kid, a tireless worker and oh yeah a physical freak. He makes our offense better day one.

For the most part, I haven’t taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesn’t need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.


25 years since Cleveland has had a franchise QB. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS! And you take a RB. If Dorsey does that he'll be run out of town, I truly believe that. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, I'll say it again, you cannot go any other direction than QB there if you're Cleveland. And the franchise QB they had was just Bernie Kosar. Come on, dude. Cleveland fans would be egging your car as you leave the stadium!
If Barkley really is the second coming of Marshall Faulk...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/2/2018 11:04 am : link
... he is well worth the #1 pick, especially with Cleveland holding the #4 pick and 3 or 4 potential franchise QBs on the board. It’s the right pick, unless you have access to CLE’s draft board and they have a clear favorite among the QBs.
Haven't seen anyone talk about it, and obviously can't happen here  
YAJ2112 : 4/2/2018 11:05 am : link
but what are the chances the Jets take Barkley at 3 and traded up there in hopes to get him?
RE: RE: Honestly, I’m not in love with any of the QBs.  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 11:10 am : link
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Barkley is in another tier than any of them and will be such a big help to whatever young qb we acquire that we couldn’t pass. He’s a great kid, a tireless worker and oh yeah a physical freak. He makes our offense better day one.

For the most part, I haven’t taken QBs with my first pick in these drafts and prefer value, having done pretty well with Carr and Watson in prior years.
Plus, with the acquisition of Taylor, the young passer doesn’t need to start day one which gives us some added flexibility.



25 years since Cleveland has had a franchise QB. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS! And you take a RB. If Dorsey does that he'll be run out of town, I truly believe that. TWENTY-FIVE YEARS, I'll say it again, you cannot go any other direction than QB there if you're Cleveland. And the franchise QB they had was just Bernie Kosar. Come on, dude. Cleveland fans would be egging your car as you leave the stadium!


Unfortunately for them, my track record as their fake GM has been better than their actual track record. Also, a QB doesn't have to be the first overall pick to be a franchise guy. They had 3 first round picks last year and didn't take a QB with a single one of them and survived, I think I'll be okay.
Darnold  
Thegratefulhead : 4/2/2018 11:14 am : link
If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.
Jon in NYC must be trying to trade out of the pick  
TommytheElephant : 4/2/2018 11:16 am : link
Doing his best to imitate something the Jets would do on a draft day- trade up to trade down
RE: Darnold  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13896664 Thegratefulhead said:
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.


You sir are crazy.
RE: Jon in NYC must be trying to trade out of the pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 13896669 TommytheElephant said:
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Doing his best to imitate something the Jets would do on a draft day- trade up to trade down


No trades in the mock draft.
Even more Clearly something the Jets Would try  
TommytheElephant : 4/2/2018 11:20 am : link
To trade out when not allowed to trade out !
RE: Jon in NYC must be trying to trade out of the pick  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 11:20 am : link
In comment 13896669 TommytheElephant said:
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Doing his best to imitate something the Jets would do on a draft day- trade up to trade down


Jon was probably trying to figure out how to announce it like Pete Rozelle during the 1983 Draft!
The funny  
Jon in NYC : 4/2/2018 11:24 am : link
thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.
RE: RE: Darnold  
Thegratefulhead : 4/2/2018 11:26 am : link
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.



You sir are crazy.
We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.
I still think Rosen is the best QB in the draft  
TommytheElephant : 4/2/2018 11:28 am : link
Albeit I don’t base my thought process much more than watching the quarterback.
RE: I still think Rosen is the best QB in the draft  
Thegratefulhead : 4/2/2018 11:29 am : link
In comment 13896703 TommytheElephant said:
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Albeit I don’t base my thought process much more than watching the quarterback.
I think that is abundantly clear.
Grateful Head  
TommytheElephant : 4/2/2018 11:41 am : link
Are you a scout? Maybe you could help me out.
How do you rank them and why?

Thanks in advance.
RE: RE: RE: Darnold  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 11:50 am : link
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.



You sir are crazy.

We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.


Webb also played in an Air Raid offense, that produces high volume of yardage. Darnold does not.
RE: The funny  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 11:53 am : link
In comment 13896696 Jon in NYC said:
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thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.


Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.
Darnold is a bit Eli-esque in that  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 11:55 am : link
He produces some of the most unbelievable, hall of fame type plays followed up by some totally bone-head decisions. As a Penn State fan who was at the Rose Bowl, I don't know that I've ever seen a better game by a college QB. He was hitting every throw in tiny windows. Given, his protection was ridiculous, but even so. All of these QBs seem to have some questions marks, it will be very interesting to follow their careers moving forward.
RE: RE: RE: Darnold  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 11:55 am : link
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.



You sir are crazy.

We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.

How much work do you think he got with the WR's as the #3 QB. There are precious few snaps in limited practices during the season that are reserved for the top two QB's. Webb most likely received the majority of his snaps on the scout team.

BTW Webb does not have a much better arm that Darnold. His college stats don't matter as Webb was playing in a much simpler offense that greatly inflated his stats. The entire scouting community disagrees with your assessment.
RE: RE: The funny  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 11:56 am : link
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thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.



Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.


The height/weight may be similar, but Rosen always seems to get hurt when he gets hit. That does not happen with QB's like Ryan or Eli Manning. If he cannot withstand hits from college players, what is going to happen in the NFL?
Broncos are chomping at the bit with pick number 5  
jlukes : 4/2/2018 11:58 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: The funny  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13896763 Mike in NY said:
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thing about Rosen to me, is that all of his knocks have nothing to do with him throwing the football. If he can stay healthy and out of the media, he should be a very good pro. I'm thinking Matt Ryan-esque, which is definitely worth the no. 3 pick.



Good comp. Haven't heard Matt Ryan as a comp to Rosen, but almost exact build (6-4 218 range), limited mobility and good, accurate arm. Both come from big programs. Although, I think their personalities are quite far apart, their talent and build is certainly similar.



The height/weight may be similar, but Rosen always seems to get hurt when he gets hit. That does not happen with QB's like Ryan or Eli Manning. If he cannot withstand hits from college players, what is going to happen in the NFL?


I think his height/weight and talent in general is similar- accuracy, arm strength, mobility. In terms of his durability, I don't think there are many on BBI that can be confident in that. If it weren't for his past histories and durability concerns, he is the no brainer at #1.
Browns pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 12:11 pm : link
When it came down to it, we took the better football player rather than the tempting high-ceiling superior athlete. Love him or hate him, Mayfield just wins. Hopefully the future Barkley/Mayfield backfield brings some swagger to a long-time downtrodden Browns offense.
mother effer  
jlukes : 4/2/2018 12:13 pm : link
well if I could, I'd trade down right now - but I can't - so I need to look things over before I make my pick
Browns Don't Get Any From  
Trainmaster : 4/2/2018 12:15 pm : link
Darnold, Allen or Rosen; seems very unlikely.
Life comes at you fast:  
Jon in NYC : 4/2/2018 12:15 pm : link
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well if I could, I'd trade down right now - but I can't - so I need to look things over before I make my pick
Really don't  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 12:16 pm : link
like the Barkley/Mayfield combo for Cleveland. Would rather Darnold/Chubb or Darnold/Barkley (if he's there).

I'd also like to think there is less than a zero percent chance the Browns draft Mayfield after the Manziel debacle (regardless of whether that is fair to Mayfield or not)
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Thegratefulhead : 4/2/2018 12:34 pm : link
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.



You sir are crazy.

We will see. Webb has a much better arm than Darnold. Produced a better a season than Darnold ever has and his measurables are better. He also has spent an entire season working with the receivers, that matters.


How much work do you think he got with the WR's as the #3 QB. There are precious few snaps in limited practices during the season that are reserved for the top two QB's. Webb most likely received the majority of his snaps on the scout team.

BTW Webb does not have a much better arm that Darnold. His college stats don't matter as Webb was playing in a much simpler offense that greatly inflated his stats. The entire scouting community disagrees with your assessment.
There are a few scouts and former NFL QBs of scouts that do not like Darnold. Webb had a 56 velocity at the combine. Suspiciously, this information is unavailable for Darnold and he did not throw at the combine. Webb's arm rivals Mahommes and is very close to Allen. He can chuck it 75 yards in the air. It is all opinion to this point. I don't like Darnold as a prospect.
I was all ready to take Mayfield  
jlukes : 4/2/2018 12:36 pm : link
but I will have to "settle" for Nelson. Chubb really intrigued me as well, but not quite sure of the fit opposite of Von Miller.

Nelson makes the entire offensive line better and will help both the run and pass game.
RE: Browns pick is in  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13896789 Lionhart28 said:
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When it came down to it, we took the better football player rather than the tempting high-ceiling superior athlete. Love him or hate him, Mayfield just wins. Hopefully the future Barkley/Mayfield backfield brings some swagger to a long-time downtrodden Browns offense.


Dave Te said on his podcast that the Browns would probably take Baker Mayfield or Allen because because of scrambeling ability. He said you basically don’t bring in a Taylor and not bring in someone who has a similar style of play because they both have to play in the system.
Colts pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/2/2018 12:39 pm : link
The Chubb pick made itself.
RE: Darnold  
Gmen88 : 4/2/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13896664 Thegratefulhead said:
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If the Giants select Darnold I predict Webb will clearly beat him out and it will leave the Giants with a mess. There will pressure to elevate Darnold anyway because he is a #2 pick. Webb is more accurate, especially deep, and takes better care of the football. IMO opinion, only Rosen or Mayfield beat out Webb in a QB competition.


Can you explain why Webb was a 3rd round pick and Darnold is the consensus #1 overall pick then? This is a pretty ridiculous assessment.
I think the draft is off to a great start  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 12:57 pm : link
Typical BBI, controversial picks that drive people insane. It drives the discussion, and entertains. The real draft can't get her quick enough.

My pick is not for a little bit, but I am torn on what to do. I have my eye on two player. One many on-line prognosticators have already predicted as the best pick for Green Bay. The other is one who I really like, but most project as an early 2nd round pick. He fits a need pretty much on the button, but need picks can kill a team. What do you say, if he is there and the first one is gone, do you take the player you like even though most on-line experts don't project his value as being worthy of a mid-first round pick?
I'm making my pick now  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:02 pm : link
Be ready for a shock.
RE: I'm making my pick now  
sjnyfan : 4/2/2018 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13896875 Jay on the Island said:
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Be ready for a shock.


Whoa. Looking forward to this explanation, Jay
I didn't expect that  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 1:07 pm : link
Winston hasn't quite lived up to being a #1 overall pick, but he has also not been that bad that they need to start looking at replacements this year
RE: I'm making my pick now  
Motley Two : 4/2/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13896875 Jay on the Island said:
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Be ready for a shock.



No offense...  
trueblueinpw : 4/2/2018 1:08 pm : link
But I don’t see any way that Cleveland takes anything but a QB at the 1. Kind of pushes everything else sideways, so that’s cool, but it doesn’t seem at all likely.
RE: I'm making my pick now  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13896875 Jay on the Island said:
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Be ready for a shock.


Jay what your reasoning?

Recently invested a top pick in Winston and although nothing spectacular so far, he is still young and has shown glimpses. Bucs have a ton of holes lacking premium talent at almost every position.
I had no intention of taking a QB there  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:10 pm : link
But I wasn't expecting Allen to be there as I was hoping for Chubb or Nelson.

Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.
I know that I will get blasted for this pick  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:11 pm : link
I am fully prepared for it.
Winston had an alarming year  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:15 pm : link
He had two sideline outbursts, injured his shoulder, and was accused of groping an uber driver.
RE: Winston had an alarming year  
Motley Two : 4/2/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13896907 Jay on the Island said:
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He had two sideline outbursts, injured his shoulder, and was accused of groping an uber driver.



RE: RE: I'm making my pick now  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13896893 GuzzaBlue said:
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Be ready for a shock.



Jay what your reasoning?

Recently invested a top pick in Winston and although nothing spectacular so far, he is still young and has shown glimpses. Bucs have a ton of holes lacking premium talent at almost every position.


They did draft O.J. Howard and just signed Cameron Brate to a large contract
Well considering  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 1:20 pm : link
Josh Allen is going Number 1 overall the value is good. I agree that I can't see that ever happening, but then again no way Cleveland doesn't go QB #1 no matter what in the draft either so what is there to say.
I don’t think the Bucs would make that pick  
bigbluehoya : 4/2/2018 1:26 pm : link
But it’s not that absurd IMO. Look at the insane $ QBs are getting these days. If I’m the Bucs, I’m not 100% sold on giving Winston a second contract at this point.
Bucs will not select allen  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/2/2018 1:27 pm : link
i disagree with that pick
RE: I had no intention of taking a QB there  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13896896 Jay on the Island said:
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But I wasn't expecting Allen to be there as I was hoping for Chubb or Nelson.

Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.


I think Buffalo would have traded up with you in this case, if it were the real draft.
hate what that unrealistic bucs pick does  
jlukes : 4/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
to the rest of the draft.
In real world the Bucs can't make that pick without trading Winston  
Eric on Li : 4/2/2018 1:32 pm : link
I think a fair argument can be made that might not be the worst direction to go depending on the compensation, but there's no way they are drafting a QB that high and bringing both QBs into camp. That would be a complete circus.
RE: I know that I will get blasted for this pick  
superspynyg : 4/2/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13896898 Jay on the Island said:
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I am fully prepared for it.


Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.
RE: RE: I know that I will get blasted for this pick  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13896942 superspynyg said:
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I am fully prepared for it.



Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.


Al Davis is reincarnated?
RE: RE: I had no intention of taking a QB there  
superspynyg : 4/2/2018 1:33 pm : link
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But I wasn't expecting Allen to be there as I was hoping for Chubb or Nelson.

Over the past year I have serious doubts with Winston as the franchise QB. Allen goes to a perfect spot where he can sit for a year or two. Best case scenario is that both prove to be franchise guys then I will trade one for a bounty.



I think Buffalo would have traded up with you in this case, if it were the real draft.


Absolutely they would have!!!
RE: RE: I know that I will get blasted for this pick  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13896942 superspynyg said:
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I am fully prepared for it.



Thanks for ruining the draft. I might as well take a punter and kicker with my first rd picks.


You better be complaining about a RB being taken first then. No way Cleveland goes anything but QB #1... Not going to happen.
It's so exhausting reading over and over  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 1:36 pm : link
team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid
I tell you what got over looked  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
Minkah Fitzpatrick getting picked by the Bears. He was someone I was hoping to fall to the Raiders as I think he is a really good fit for what I wanted and needed. Then again he is so versatile he could fit any Defense.
RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13896949 SirYesSir said:
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid

Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.
Who the hell cares  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:44 pm : link
This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.
RE: RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13896958 MadPlaid said:
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid


Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.


Yes. which Jay and Lionheart both did.
RE: RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13896958 MadPlaid said:
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid


Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.


I agree and I think he did that. I mean Winston is a mess and isn't someone I would want leading my franchise. You get what is going to be most likely the #1 player taken in this draft and sit for a year. You can then trade Winston for a nice big haul next year and you have a much better face of your franchise if you ask me.
RE: Who the hell cares  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13896961 Jay on the Island said:
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.



known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...
RE: RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13896958 MadPlaid said:
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Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.

I think I did justify the pick. I don't think Winston is the right guy to lead this franchise. Sure he has the talent to be a great QB but I don't think he is mentally tough enough and the off the field concerns are real IMO. I wasn't expecting this reaction lol.

hoya  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 1:49 pm : link
great pick...Fitzpatrick is perfect for a young team like the Bears. They get their leader on D
RE: RE: Who the hell cares  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13896967 SirYesSir said:
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.




known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...

It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.
You never know..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/2/2018 1:51 pm : link
what is going to happen. What if there's a draft day trade involving Winston with Allen still on the board?

Could happen.

It isn't like Winston has set the league on fire and trading him now with some value might be better than if he continues to fail and there's no value.
RE: RE: RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13896968 Jay on the Island said:
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Exactly. The BBI draft is not beholden to anyone. So if under the circumstances, you feel this is the move you need to make, then don't hesitate. None of it counts in the grand scheme of things. However, providing a good justification is still a must. I think.


I think I did justify the pick. I don't think Winston is the right guy to lead this franchise. Sure he has the talent to be a great QB but I don't think he is mentally tough enough and the off the field concerns are real IMO. I wasn't expecting this reaction lol.

I agree. Your justification is a perfect example of what I am talking about. By the way, it was so good, that it made me think hmm, he could be onto something. The Bucs could very well do something that unexpected if the chips fall this way. Its things like this that make the mock draft fun and entertaining. Also, it spurs debate which is good too.
It's hilarious  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 1:54 pm : link
that the Bucs took Allen in this mock..but it ain't happening. But still - interesting to consider that reality
Can we be so certain that the Bucs wouldn't make that move?  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 1:57 pm : link
I don't think so. Anything is possible. If we could trade, then things might appear more sane, but we can't so sometimes we make a move that appears unlikely. When the real draft happens, the teams often make crazy moves that we had no way of predicting. Like KC's trade up to take Mahonnes or Texans' trade to get Watson.
any word from Pete?  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 1:57 pm : link
I am ready to pick for Oakland.
RE: RE: RE: Who the hell cares  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 1:57 pm : link
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.




known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...


It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.


Jay, c'mon, listen to yourself. "it was reported" "hue jackson said..." no chance he's not telling the truth right?
RE: any word from Pete?  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13896990 Amtoft said:
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I am ready to pick for Oakland.


Yes
RE: It's hilarious  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/2/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13896988 ryanmkeane said:
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that the Bucs took Allen in this mock..but it ain't happening. But still - interesting to consider that reality


Just very very unlikely that they select allen. If there is demand there for allen they obviously trade. but for purposes of this mock they need secondary help
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Amtoft : 4/2/2018 2:07 pm : link
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This is for fun. Of course they wouldn't take Allen but then again there is no chance that the Browns take Barkley 1st overall. It is known that they have narrowed down the first pick to Allen and Darnold.




known by whom Jay? Also, the allies are landing at Pas de Calais...


It was reported the past two weeks. They have narrowed it down to Allen and Darnold. Even Hue Jackson said they were taking a QB at 1.



Jay, c'mon, listen to yourself. "it was reported" "hue jackson said..." no chance he's not telling the truth right?


zero chance Cleveland passes on taking their top choice at QB. Won't happen especially when they will have to take their 3rd best QB if they don't. Just won't happen so not sure why you are arguing they would do anything but take QB #1.
Just a reminder  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:07 pm : link
The Bucs traded UP into the 2nd round to take K Roberto Aguayo in 2016.
I trades were allowed  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:08 pm : link
I would have traded down with Buffalo.
Roquan Smith  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 2:08 pm : link
is a LB I love! He is fast, good instincts, and a high level character leader type player. He is a flat out stud.
RE: Roquan Smith  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13897011 Amtoft said:
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is a LB I love! He is fast, good instincts, and a high level character leader type player. He is a flat out stud.

Very good pick. I am a huge fan of Smith.
The video on the selection thread  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 2:11 pm : link
of Smith. The angle from the LOS on the side, he shoots thru so fast it looks as if the video is sped up. Talk about closing speed.
RE: Roquan Smith  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13897011 Amtoft said:
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is a LB I love! He is fast, good instincts, and a high level character leader type player. He is a flat out stud.


I liked him a lot as well. Was on my short list of realistic options for the Ravens when I was doing my internal mock drafts in preparation for BBI Draft
RE: I trades were allowed  
Eric on Li : 4/2/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13897009 Jay on the Island said:
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I would have traded down with Buffalo.


I think the clearest way this pick makes a lot of sense is if part of the plan is trading Winston for a future pick. For the purposes of the mock it doesn't matter what that return is and it's not at all an unrealistic move (CLE gave up a 2nd for Tyrod Taylor). Someone would give up a decent 2019 pick for him and it would be an interesting move for the Bucs to make if they unexpectedly had a chance to take a top tier QB prospect.
I look at this as an investment  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:14 pm : link
If the Allen selection lights a fire under Winston and he becomes a star and stays out of trouble off the field then the Bucs are in an enviable position. If Allen develops as hoped then the Bucs can trade Winston for a nice package and move forward with their young stud QB.

RE: The video on the selection thread  
Amtoft : 4/2/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13897018 GuzzaBlue said:
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of Smith. The angle from the LOS on the side, he shoots thru so fast it looks as if the video is sped up. Talk about closing speed.


His quickness is amazing. They way he reads plays I am a big fan.
RE: You never know..  
Anakim : 4/2/2018 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13896980 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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what is going to happen. What if there's a draft day trade involving Winston with Allen still on the board?

Could happen.

It isn't like Winston has set the league on fire and trading him now with some value might be better than if he continues to fail and there's no value.


It's not farfetched, but I can't see that happening. It seems like Licht and management are willing to fire Koetter than give up on Jameis. I'm sure Koetter would prefer Allen to Jameis, but I'm not sure ownership and management will.
If Bradford fetched a 1st and 4th  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:17 pm : link
I think a team would be more than happy to give that up for Winston on draft day. Ideally they would trade Winston next offseason allowing Allen the entire season to sit and continue to work on his mechanics. Winston would be inspired to have a big year which would increase his trade value assuming he keeps himself out of trouble.
RE: If Bradford fetched a 1st and 4th  
Anakim : 4/2/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13897036 Jay on the Island said:
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I think a team would be more than happy to give that up for Winston on draft day. Ideally they would trade Winston next offseason allowing Allen the entire season to sit and continue to work on his mechanics. Winston would be inspired to have a big year which would increase his trade value assuming he keeps himself out of trouble.


I probably would have taken Derwin James Jr. if I were you, but if you see Josh Allen as a franchise QB and a potentially better player than Winston, you should take Allen.
Winston  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 2:35 pm : link
went 9-7 rookie year and showed some real flashes of being a star. This past year...the team is just awful. The coach is also awful. So...not a great situation all around for him. He's got Evans and that's pretty much it. No defense, no run game, average OL.
RE: Winston  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13897051 ryanmkeane said:
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went 9-7 rookie year and showed some real flashes of being a star. This past year...the team is just awful. The coach is also awful. So...not a great situation all around for him. He's got Evans and that's pretty much it. No defense, no run game, average OL.

He also has Desean Jackson, Cameron Brate, and OJ Howard. It's not like he has no talent on offense. Their tackles are solid but they have a need at guard.
RE: Winston  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13897051 ryanmkeane said:
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went 9-7 rookie year and showed some real flashes of being a star. This past year...the team is just awful. The coach is also awful. So...not a great situation all around for him. He's got Evans and that's pretty much it. No defense, no run game, average OL.

Winston went 6-10 his rookie season. He was 9-7 his second year.
Jay  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 2:42 pm : link
correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad
RE: Jay  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 2:46 pm : link
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correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad

Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.
Safe to say  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 3:00 pm : link
year #4 is pretty much make or break for Winston. If they suck and he's just kinda "eh"...then they made a big mistake.
RE: RE: Jay  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 13897071 Jay on the Island said:
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correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad


Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.


It is a well thought out pick and if you could trade Winston before camp opens, I like Allen's risk/reward over what we already know about Winston. I find it very difficult to imagine Winston becoming a top tier QB. I can't say the same about Allen yet, but he does possess the physical tools to do so. I'd take the chance on Allen over Winston and the deal breaker is the maturity issues and his decision making on the field, which has not progressed.

Question is what is the return on Winston. If Buffalo does not come away with a QB, I could see them throwing a ton their way.
Halfway through Optimus's time  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 3:04 pm : link
Will be interesting to see who Miami takes as we are at that point in the draft where there are a lot of directions teams can go
RE: RE: RE: Jay  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13897098 GuzzaBlue said:
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correct...my bad. Which is also weird that he didn't make the jump in the 3rd year...but again...the team is just so bad


Part of the reason I am ready to move on. He didn't take the next step in year 3, got into two separate sideline incidents, and then the uber incident. I don't want to trust the future of my franchise on this guy when I can take a chance on a risk but talented Allen.



It is a well thought out pick and if you could trade Winston before camp opens, I like Allen's risk/reward over what we already know about Winston. I find it very difficult to imagine Winston becoming a top tier QB. I can't say the same about Allen yet, but he does possess the physical tools to do so. I'd take the chance on Allen over Winston and the deal breaker is the maturity issues and his decision making on the field, which has not progressed.

Question is what is the return on Winston. If Buffalo does not come away with a QB, I could see them throwing a ton their way.

I could see them offering the 22nd and a 2nd.
love this mock  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/2/2018 3:15 pm : link
every year its fun to follow along. I thought TB general manager could never make a worse big than trading up for a kicker in the 2nd but Josh Allen for the Bucs is worse. Bucs pass on a position player to take a qb? brutal IMO
Pete in Woodstock  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/2/2018 3:17 pm : link
I want to hear your feedback on your pick.
Tampa should absolutely be looking for a quarterback  
Go Terps : 4/2/2018 3:17 pm : link
Winston has two years left on his deal. A smart team would have made the decision on him already. A choice between...

Winston on 2 years of rookie contract

vs.

Allen on 5 years of rookie contract

...is, to me, no choice at all. You go with Allen. And I'm saying this as a guy who is not a huge fan of his. But Winston is a known quantity, and that quantity is not something you pay a second contract to.
RE: love this mock  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13897126 Ned In Atlanta said:
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every year its fun to follow along. I thought TB general manager could never make a worse big than trading up for a kicker in the 2nd but Josh Allen for the Bucs is worse. Bucs pass on a position player to take a qb? brutal IMO

Your entitled to your opinion but what if Allen becomes the next Elway? What if Fitzpatrick busts?
RE: I tell you what got over looked  
GuzzaBlue : 4/2/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13896955 Amtoft said:
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Minkah Fitzpatrick getting picked by the Bears. He was someone I was hoping to fall to the Raiders as I think he is a really good fit for what I wanted and needed. Then again he is so versatile he could fit any Defense.


Yup. Flying under the radar a bit as a top prospect. On BBI, I get it, he is not one of the top few targets. For the class in general, I don't get it. I would think the impact Earl Thomas, Berry, Collins, ect have on their defenses he would be talked about more. He does everything, is a team leader and a great talent to help rebuild a defense.

If the Bucs did not go Allen, this is who I would have chosen.
RE: RE: I tell you what got over looked  
Jay on the Island : 4/2/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13897137 GuzzaBlue said:
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Minkah Fitzpatrick getting picked by the Bears. He was someone I was hoping to fall to the Raiders as I think he is a really good fit for what I wanted and needed. Then again he is so versatile he could fit any Defense.



Yup. Flying under the radar a bit as a top prospect. On BBI, I get it, he is not one of the top few targets. For the class in general, I don't get it. I would think the impact Earl Thomas, Berry, Collins, ect have on their defenses he would be talked about more. He does everything, is a team leader and a great talent to help rebuild a defense.

If the Bucs did not go Allen, this is who I would have chosen.

I wanted Chubb but once he went right before me I was torn between Allen and Fitzpatrick.
I hate to do this  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 3:36 pm : link
But according to BBI list, BPA is Denzel Ward. I am not sure I can see any reason for bypassing him if Optimus doesn't make his pick by 4:03 PM
GT  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 4:04 pm : link
that's good in theory but taking franchise QBs in the NFL never really works out that way. For example...Winston is 24 years old, has all the talent and has shown flashes. They are going to see it through with him considering he was the #1 overall pick in the draft, unless they just don't think he's any good at all. If Tampa thinks that he is absolutely 100% not their QB of the future and are ready to move on, then sure, taking Allen would be smart. But a) they don't feel that way and b) Winston has shown more flashes in the NFL than lots of QBs, he's more of a sure thing than Allen is at this point. Taking Allen doesn't solve their problem.
Any other thoughts  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 4:04 pm : link
Before I just post on the Selection thread?
Tampa's  
ryanmkeane : 4/2/2018 4:06 pm : link
problem is coaching and talent. They don't have much of either.
Well this sucks  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 4:09 pm : link
Optimus was on BBI earlier today. I know he would have preferred to make his own selection.
49ers are extremely happy to get the 19 year old Edmunds  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/2/2018 4:27 pm : link
Edmunds will give the 49ers versatility on defense. He’s big and powerful enough to hold the point of attack and to rush the passer from the team’s strong-side linebacker position. He may be even better suited for inside linebacker, which could become an area of need for San Francisco if Reuben Foster continues to be problematic.
Edmunds is an absolute freak, at 6-foot-5 he is fully capable of covering big-bodied tight ends down the middle of the field. He has even shown the ability to run downfield with running backs in one-on-one coverage. He will be ready to contribute come day one of the 2018 season.
12 Pick is Derwin James S FSU  
superspynyg : 4/2/2018 4:37 pm : link
His talent is too good.
RE: 12 Pick is Derwin James S FSU  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2018 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13897297 superspynyg said:
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His talent is too good.


Damn. I was hoping that he'd fall to me at 16
RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
allstarjim : 4/2/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13896949 SirYesSir said:
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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid


To be fair Hue Jackson already said they are going QB at #1.
sorry, skins pick will be up  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 5:48 pm : link
a little later this evening - in commuter hell for the time being
RE: RE: It's so exhausting reading over and over  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 5:49 pm : link
In comment 13897376 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13896949 SirYesSir said:


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team x would "never" take so and so there, or player x would "never" go at a certain spot.

Yeah, there are never any surprises in nfl drafts, riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhttttt

this would be pretty boring exercise if we just cut and pasted of mel kiper's big board.

take who you want, everyone else can disagree, but the "never's" are so freaking stupid



To be fair Hue Jackson already said they are going QB at #1.


In this war room, Hue Jackson doesn't call the shots. Lionhart does. ;)
We don't even show Hue  
Lionhart28 : 4/2/2018 5:57 pm : link
the real board.
RE: GT  
Go Terps : 4/2/2018 6:22 pm : link
In comment 13897223 ryanmkeane said:
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that's good in theory but taking franchise QBs in the NFL never really works out that way. For example...Winston is 24 years old, has all the talent and has shown flashes. They are going to see it through with him considering he was the #1 overall pick in the draft, unless they just don't think he's any good at all. If Tampa thinks that he is absolutely 100% not their QB of the future and are ready to move on, then sure, taking Allen would be smart. But a) they don't feel that way and b) Winston has shown more flashes in the NFL than lots of QBs, he's more of a sure thing than Allen is at this point. Taking Allen doesn't solve their problem.


I don't see it at all with Winston, and he's a guy I liked coming out of FSU. If I'm Tampa's GM by now I've made the choice of whether or not I'm interested in paying Winston that big second contract. I would not be, and thus I'd look to trade him and pick a replacement in this draft. At least I'm keeping the QB position at the rookie wage scale, and I'm probably not losing much from what I have now. Conversely, if Allen pans out it would be a huge upgrade...I'd be better at QB, have a better long term cap picture, and have whatever I got back for Winston in trade.

That Winston was a first rounder three years ago shouldn't matter. That's a sunk cost that, I would think, wouldn't inform future decision making.
RE: Can we be so certain that the Bucs wouldn't make that move?  
section125 : 4/2/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13896989 MadPlaid said:
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I don't think so. Anything is possible. If we could trade, then things might appear more sane, but we can't so sometimes we make a move that appears unlikely. When the real draft happens, the teams often make crazy moves that we had no way of predicting. Like KC's trade up to take Mahonnes or Texans' trade to get Watson.


The Bucs have Jameis Winston, why would they waste a pick on Allen. They already have a young starting QB. Bad choice.
Redskins pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 10:28 pm : link
DE Marcus Davenport

Skins really need several positions, those two linebackers that went just ahead of us would have really helped, but Davenport has enormous talent, so we're glad to have him

Chubb has had a better college career and is a great prospect, but I really think Davenport has a better frame, and could end up the better pro.
MadPlaid / Green Bay  
SirYesSir : 4/2/2018 10:30 pm : link
on the clock
Well, my pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/2/2018 11:22 pm : link
Thanks a bunch, SirYesSir. Totally snaked my guy. I was so set to take Davenport with my pick. Ready with everything. Even a sweet gif too. Well, not true, but I bet I could have found one.

I'm not sore. Because Jaire Alexander is a pretty nice consolation prize. And fits a need too, so I have that going for me. Which is nice. I realize picking Alexander is a big risk considering his injury history, but I feel he has top ten potential when healthy. If he meets that potential, the Cheeseheads are going to be very happy.
Shit man - dudes...  
Optimus-NY : 4/3/2018 6:28 am : link
I'm 8 hours away from you guys. I wanted Vita Vea, the DT out of Washington. Is it too late?

I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.
RE: Shit man - dudes...  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 6:39 am : link
In comment 13897684 Optimus-NY said:
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I'm 8 hours away from you guys. I wanted Vita Vea, the DT out of Washington. Is it too late?

I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.


Unfortunately with the number of picks made subsequently and the real possibility that at least one would have taken Ward I believe it is
RE: RE: Shit man - dudes...  
Optimus-NY : 4/3/2018 7:35 am : link
In comment 13897687 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13897684 Optimus-NY said:


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I'm 8 hours away from you guys. I wanted Vita Vea, the DT out of Washington. Is it too late?

I was awake until my time, then ?I just couldn't stay awake anymore.



Unfortunately with the number of picks made subsequently and the real possibility that at least one would have taken Ward I believe it is


I understand. For the record, my email address is marwan_ali77@yahoo.com

Hey Optimus...  
Matt G : 4/3/2018 8:46 am : link
Sorry, yesterday was tough for me to send out email reminders... As we have done in the past, you can always send me your board if you are worried about you pick coming up while you're asleep...
Taking longer for me than usual  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 9:14 am : link
I have 5 players with comparable grades at the top of my board
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 9:37 am : link
As I said earlier, this was a tough selection for me because I had 5 players in the top row of my draft board. Had one of the DB's (Ward, James) fallen to me at 16 that would have been a no brainer, but both were selected. Ultimately the deciding factor for me was that there are very few pass rushers in this draft that strike me as more than situational players and those that were there I probably would have had to overdraft in Round 2 because they likely would not be there for my Round 3 pick whereas Harold Landry is not a reach at this point in my opinion. I think the defensive scheme of the Ravens will allow him to revert back to his 2016 form. You can never have too many pass rushers.
It's never a reach  
GuzzaBlue : 4/3/2018 9:41 am : link
when you can get your next Terrell Suggs
Checking in for my pick at number 19  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2018 10:03 am : link
Draft moving at a good pace. Several good players left Cowboys are quite interested in for the pick at 19.
This is an awesome idea  
QB Snacks : 4/3/2018 10:28 am : link
Would love to participate if a team becomes free in the future.
Chargers  
armstead98 : 4/3/2018 10:30 am : link
Take Vea, shoring up the interior of the DL. Best player on the board at a position of need.

Didn't want to reach for an offensive tackle.
Vita Vea  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 10:32 am : link
is a great selection. I can see him going much higher, even in the top 10, very easily.
RE: Vita Vea  
YAJ2112 : 4/3/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13897882 allstarjim said:
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is a great selection. I can see him going much higher, even in the top 10, very easily.


Yeah, I was hoping he would drop to me at 20 at this point. Can't believe he lasted that long.
RE: Vita Vea  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 10:40 am : link
In comment 13897882 allstarjim said:
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is a great selection. I can see him going much higher, even in the top 10, very easily.


I know Vea would have been Miami's selection had he not been auto-selected due to missing 2 hour window. He was one of the five on my list from which I chose Landry. Considering Arizona went for Payne, Vea was probably on DC's list as well.
Cowboys would have selected Vea at 19  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2018 10:43 am : link
..
skins were debating  
SirYesSir : 4/3/2018 10:48 am : link
between davenport, vea, and payne. and that's the order I ended up with. vea was very hard not to take, looks so disruptive, but skins taking a bigger d-lineman with their first pick last year convinced me to address the outside rush
and actually one more d lineman  
SirYesSir : 4/3/2018 11:03 am : link
ahead of payne, but he's still on the board...
sjnyfan  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 11:10 am : link
was on at 9:50am. Pick ahead of him came in about a half-hour later. Hopefully he knows he's on the clock.
I've sent him email reminders  
Matt G : 4/3/2018 11:13 am : link
...
I am stepping out...  
Matt G : 4/3/2018 11:17 am : link
IF SEA misses the pick, please select the top rated player (Connor Williams).
Pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/3/2018 11:46 am : link
Sorry for the delay. Morning meeting. I've picked a lineman high for Seattle every year since doing this. It seems they've needed one since their AFC days. Wilson won't be able to avoid the rush forever and the defense can't bail them out as they used to. They have to establish themselves up front.
RE: I am stepping out...  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 13898004 Matt G said:
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IF SEA misses the pick, please select the top rated player (Connor Williams).


SEA beat you to it! Not surprised to see Connor Williams go at this point as, after Nelson, there are a number of OL who carry late Round 1 grades. The exact order they go in real life will depend on how they fit individual schemes IMHO
Cowboys pick Calvin Ridley  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2018 11:57 am : link
A lot of buzz in Dallas that Dez will be cut this offseason.
If not you put Ridley on opposite side of Dez replacing Williams. More weapons on offense.
Defense will be addressed in next several rounds.
I'm just sitting here whistlin' dixie  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 12:06 pm : link
As the GM of the Vikings...because I love the choices that should still be available.
Smart pick for Dallas  
jlukes : 4/3/2018 12:10 pm : link
No brainer
RE: Cowboys pick Calvin Ridley  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13898093 Rick in Dallas said:
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A lot of buzz in Dallas that Dez will be cut this offseason.
If not you put Ridley on opposite side of Dez replacing Williams. More weapons on offense.
Defense will be addressed in next several rounds.


Ridley was #2 on my list (Vea was #3). Baltimore has a lot of ties to Alabama and definitely has a need at WR even after FA signings, but I guess I let Sy talk me out of it by showing that there was enough depth at the position that I could try to fill a different need where there was less depth first
YAJ2112 was on the clock  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 12:42 pm : link
he was on about an hour ago.
Just got back from lunch  
YAJ2112 : 4/3/2018 12:49 pm : link
pick will be up in the next 5 minutes
Damn you, YAJ  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 1:00 pm : link
Damn you.
RE: Damn you, YAJ  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13898218 allstarjim said:
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Damn you.


Never poke the beast
RE: RE: Damn you, YAJ  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13898220 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13898218 allstarjim said:


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Damn you.



Never poke the beast


I'm already over it. Good pick, YAJ. <sigh>
Matt G with a great pick  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 1:36 pm : link
I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.
If we get..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/3/2018 1:53 pm : link
to 24 today, I'll be back on after 6 PM and will make the pick this evening.
Ah, good to know.  
NoGainDayne : 4/3/2018 1:55 pm : link
I can make pick 26 tonight as well.

Have one guy in mind in particular. Hope he falls!
RE: Matt G with a great pick  
Amtoft : 4/3/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13898304 allstarjim said:
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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.


I agree... McGlinchey is getting over shadowed by Nelson, but he is a really good LT. I think he is definitely the best in this draft and think he will be solid for years.
RE: Matt G with a great pick  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13898304 allstarjim said:
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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.


Personally not a fan of McGlinchey. Too many times against better opponents he reminded me of Ereck Flowers. As I posted earlier, we are seeing the run of OL that I anticipated in the latter part of Round 1
RE: If we get..  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13898351 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to 24 today, I'll be back on after 6 PM and will make the pick this evening.


FMiC if we get through pick 23 before 4 PM your time will expire before 6 PM so you might want to e-mail a list if you have to leave
RE: RE: Matt G with a great pick  
SirYesSir : 4/3/2018 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13898382 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13898304 allstarjim said:


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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.



Personally not a fan of McGlinchey. Too many times against better opponents he reminded me of Ereck Flowers. As I posted earlier, we are seeing the run of OL that I anticipated in the latter part of Round 1



You can have doubts about McGlinchy, but he should not in anyway remind you of Ereck Flowers. Completely different player.
RE: RE: Matt G with a great pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/3/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13898362 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13898304 allstarjim said:


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I think McGlinchey is going in the top 15 on draft day. That's a steal.



I agree... McGlinchey is getting over shadowed by Nelson, but he is a really good LT. I think he is definitely the best in this draft and think he will be solid for years.


McGlinchey is a great pick.
I think McGlinchey  
allstarjim : 4/3/2018 2:12 pm : link
is the best LT prospect in the last two drafts, and I particularly loved Garrett Bolles last year, and he was taken at #20 overall and the top OT chosen in the 2017 draft.
McGlinchey was on my short list  
YAJ2112 : 4/3/2018 2:20 pm : link
as were a couple of DLs. Went with Wynn and his versatility on the inside.
McGlinchey  
ryanmkeane : 4/3/2018 2:31 pm : link
could be a trade up target for us where we use one of our 3rd rounders if he's somehow still there around the 25 range.
Agreed  
superspynyg : 4/3/2018 3:06 pm : link
I wanted him at 22.
Lamar Jackson is the 22nd  
superspynyg : 4/3/2018 3:12 pm : link
Pick. Let’s hope he pans out.
Suh and Key  
BigBlue TT : 4/3/2018 3:41 pm : link
could be a headache for McVay but a bigger headache for opposing OL. Probably a reach but Rams seem like a team that will gamble on top 10 talent.
Just curious  
Knee of Theismann : 4/3/2018 5:07 pm : link
Did Nelson and Mcglinchey play on the same side? My question is could playing next to Nelson have helped Mcglinchey at all? It seems funny that the "Best LT prospect in two years" just so happened to be on the same line as the best OG prospect in like 10 years.
RE: Just curious  
jlukes : 4/3/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13898707 Knee of Theismann said:
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Did Nelson and Mcglinchey play on the same side? My question is could playing next to Nelson have helped Mcglinchey at all? It seems funny that the "Best LT prospect in two years" just so happened to be on the same line as the best OG prospect in like 10 years.


Yes. LT and LG
Even though FMiC said he would be back after 6  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 5:15 pm : link
His time on the clock will expire before then. According to the rules we are supposed to give the top player on the list unless it is unrealistic (like having the Eagles draft a QB). Would the Panthers go for another RB (Guice) after taking RB last year? Evans and Bryan both seem unrealistic (Evans for scheme fit because they are a 4-3 with Kuechly at MLB and Evans is an ILB, Bryan just because they have a bunch of good/great DT's) so it would be Guice or skipping down to D.J. Moore
Okay  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2018 5:21 pm : link
Ignore everything I posted
I've seen Leighton Vander Esch compared to Kuechly  
NoGainDayne : 4/3/2018 8:08 pm : link
obviously lofty but he is an athletic rangy and versatile player. Not worried about him being light on experience. Very productive this past year.

If he has 3 years like that you are talking about him going higher than 26. Risk is he can't shed blockers well enough but bare minimum I think he is a guy that will make plays in space and be a top flight coverage backer.
Too bad Barkley picked one  
5BowlsSoon : 4/3/2018 9:37 pm : link
I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.
RE: Too bad Barkley picked one  
NoGainDayne : 4/3/2018 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13899224 5BowlsSoon said:
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I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.


Lol. We are all amateur drafters here. Andy has no affiliation with the Giants. QBs went Rosen-Mayfield-Allen. Rosen viewed as #2 QB in this draft.
RE: Too bad Barkley picked one  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 9:00 am : link
In comment 13899224 5BowlsSoon said:
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I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.
I had Rosen all ready to go assuming Darnold was going #1. I still like him and possibly even have a tinge of regret to be honest. Right now, he's the best QB imo. Darnold has HOF talent but needs development. Rosen has injury concerns though so that kinda tipped the scales a bit.
RE: Too bad Barkley picked one  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 9:02 am : link
In comment 13899224 5BowlsSoon said:
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I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.
Also, I would not have drafted Allen in the first round. Obviously, he wasn't lasting to the second round but that's the only pick he'd be on my radar.

btw - slow start today, let's get this thing going!
Taking Barkley #1  
blueblood : 4/4/2018 9:16 am : link
IMO is just silly..
Updated...  
Matt G : 4/4/2018 9:27 am : link

Round 1
1. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Sam Darnold, QB, USC
3. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Ind) - Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
5. Denver (jlukes) - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
6. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
7. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
8. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
10. Oakland (Amtoft) - Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
11. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State – auto selection
12. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cin) - Derwin James, S, Florida State
13. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
14. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
15. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
16. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Harold Landry, DE/OLB, Boston College
17. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Vita Vea, DT, Washington
18. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
19. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
20. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia
21. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf) - Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
22. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from KC) - Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
23. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Arden Key, DE, LSU
24. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Justin Reid, S, Stanford
25. Tennessee (NYG27) - Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist
26. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Leighton Vander Esch, OLB, Boise State
27. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
28. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - On the clock
29. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
30. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
31. New England (Torrag)
32. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)

Round 2
33. Cleveland (Lionhart28)
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou)
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ)
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
40. Denver (jlukes) (jlukes)
41. Oakland (Amtoft)
42. Miami (Optimus-NY)
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF)
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
46. Cincinnati (Matt G)
47. Arizona (DCPollaro)
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea)
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
51. Detroit (YAJ2112)
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
53. Buffalo (superspynyg)
54. Kansas City (English Alaister)
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR)
57. Tennessee (NYG27)
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.)
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
63. New England (Torrag)
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi)
Thank you, Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 9:32 am : link
Looks good
RE: RE: Too bad Barkley picked one  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 9:33 am : link
In comment 13899540 Andy in Halifax said:
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In comment 13899224 5BowlsSoon said:


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I wanted to see which qb Giants were going to take - Allen or Rosen.

Also, I would not have drafted Allen in the first round. Obviously, he wasn't lasting to the second round but that's the only pick he'd be on my radar.

btw - slow start today, let's get this thing going!


Since we have had weekends before where 0 picks have been made, doing the math we will need to average slightly more than 14.5 picks per day in order to finish on April 20, the Friday before the draft (obviously, the more productive this is on weekends that brings down the average). User search shows that Pittsburgh was on BBI this morning but obviously did not make a pick in the Selection thread. Pittsburgh has until 11 AM then they will likely be awarded Derius Guice because he is the best player on the board and with Bell's contract demands and suspension issues I am not sure it can be said that it is so unreasonable that we must skip him.
I've emailed those on the clock and on deck  
Matt G : 4/4/2018 9:35 am : link
...
Man we might really fly through the end of round 1 and the  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 9:37 am : link
beginning of round 2 once we get going today. Lots of active posters with picks, and Cleveland and Indy have multiple picks each
I actually forgot we started at 9:00  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 9:39 am : link
It's almost 11:00 my time, I got confused there for a sec. Not a slow start, just a dumb Canadian messing up time.
Looks like BBDTS  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 10:13 am : link
was on about 15 minutes ago so he should see this.
The POWER of call out threads!!  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 10:16 am : link
I'm awesome
RE: The POWER of call out threads!!  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 10:18 am : link
In comment 13899691 MadPlaid said:
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I'm awesome


What would a BBI Mock Draft be without those, especially for Jacksonville's GM, or the kick in the nuts .jpg?
Ha!  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 10:21 am : link
Haven't seen the kick in the nuts jpg yet. It is overdue.
Pick is in  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/4/2018 10:21 am : link
with the injury sustained last season, Pittsburg needs some beef at the ILB position. Also helps that he was the second best prospect on the board. Guice's injury history is concerning, so I went with the need value pick.

I was hoping Lamar Jackson would slip to me at the pick, but sadly he went to Buffalo!
We need Kevin in Ct to be OTC  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 10:24 am : link
so we can bring out the home alone gif's
RE: Pick is in  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 10:24 am : link
In comment 13899705 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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with the injury sustained last season, Pittsburg needs some beef at the ILB position. Also helps that he was the second best prospect on the board. Guice's injury history is concerning, so I went with the need value pick.

I was hoping Lamar Jackson would slip to me at the pick, but sadly he went to Buffalo!


Dodged a bullet. Evans is a great pick. Was on the short list for me at #30 for Minnesota.
Sorry to disappoint  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2018 10:28 am : link
Andy!

Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.
RE: Sorry to disappoint  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 10:31 am : link
In comment 13899727 Kevin in CT said:
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Andy!

Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.


Makes sense. There are still two players who jump out at me if either are on the board for the Giants
I had 3 I really wanted  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 10:34 am : link
(now 2... thanks a lot Kevin!). I wonder if either will make it to me.
fyi I mailed Matt a value board to cover the Pats next two picks...  
Torrag : 4/4/2018 10:44 am : link
...if I don't make them in my first 30 mins on the clock. Thanks.

Andy nice job at #2 overall. Darnold is the guy.
RE: Sorry to disappoint  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 13899727 Kevin in CT said:
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Andy!

Will Hernandez is the pick to make the Jags running game even better. With the Norwell signing and now with Hernandez replacing Cann, the Jags will hopefully have the best offensive line in the NFL for years to come.


Kevin. Not cool. That was going to be my pick. Now I have to debate between 3 guys. Give me about 20 minutes.
allstar  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 11:00 am : link
all's fair in love and war. And the BBI Mock draft too.
Sorry allstar  
Kevin in CT : 4/4/2018 11:22 am : link
He was at the top of my board in terms of bpa and need. Couldn't help but ecstatic that he was there for us.
RE: Sorry allstar  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 11:35 am : link
In comment 13899835 Kevin in CT said:
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He was at the top of my board in terms of bpa and need. Couldn't help but ecstatic that he was there for us.


No worries, I feel like Josh Jackson is a pretty damn good alternative. Adding Josh Jackson to a secondary with Xavier Rhodes and Harrison Smith...with Mackensie Alexander coming into his own, I'm going to put the best 3 corners on the field. Trae Waynes has been a bit of a disappointment, but I'm building a no-fly zone in the land of the thousand lakes. A great defense getting greater.
If I may opine on Will Hernandez  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 11:43 am : link
I think many are underrating how good he is.

He is a monster that can move. Dave Te' Thomas said it has been 17 YEARS since he has scouted an offensive lineman with double digit knock down blocks per game. The last guy who did that...Walter freaking Jones. Will Hernandez did that last year with 10.33. He plays every game, and the only real question I had was if he is with his movement, because it's hard to believe a man that large can move as well as he does, but he really does. He is not just a run-blocking mauler, he can pass block as well, and he has strength in spades to anchor as well as the feet and base to disrupt quicker pass rushers.

37 bench press reps at the combine, and there may not really be much of a drop-off from Quenton Nelson and Hernandez. I feel like if he played at a big program, he'd go in the top 15.

Back to Josh Jackson...he has a little edge to him, he's smart, good at press or off, and tremendous ball skills. I think he's a big-time competitor, and his competitiveness is what won me over on him over a couple of other options.
Will Hernandez at 34 after taking Barkley at 2 would be nice  
est1986 : 4/4/2018 12:12 pm : link
Surprised Josh Jackson wasn’t taken earlier in this BBI mock
Matt has Torrag's board  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 12:16 pm : link
And Torrag indicated to give him 30 minutes (which has passed) so hopefully we will see that soon
Some awesome clips in the selection thread  
Motley Two : 4/4/2018 12:18 pm : link
Those last two of LB Rashaan Evans & CB Josh Jackson are sick!

If you're not adding gifs to your selection, I'm just gonna assume it was bad pick.
Despite the time about to run out on New England  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 1:28 pm : link
I think the only proper thing to do is wait, as Torrag did send in a board to Matt.
RE: Despite the time about to run out on New England  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13900096 Andy in Halifax said:
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I think the only proper thing to do is wait, as Torrag did send in a board to Matt.

I agree. Obviously, Matt is really busy, and is unable to post Torrag's pick. Too bad he didn't share it with one of us for just this contingency.
posting now  
Matt G : 4/4/2018 1:33 pm : link
sorry
Last three picks...  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 1:38 pm : link
decimated the Giants board.

Current scene inside the Giants war room:
RE: Last three picks...  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13900133 Andy in Halifax said:
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decimated the Giants board.

Current scene inside the Giants war room:


The two names at the top of my board after the Hernandez pick are still there
One of the two  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 1:43 pm : link
Are guaranteed to be there for you Andy
fuck  
YAJ2112 : 4/4/2018 1:48 pm : link
the only time the Eagles should be picking 32nd is when they trade up from 33rd by giving up their entire draft for each of the next 10 years.
Fully expecting my draft board to be decimated over the next 7 picks -  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 1:51 pm : link
especially by Go Terps.
RE: Fully expecting my draft board to be decimated over the next 7 picks -  
Go Terps : 4/4/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13900170 jlukes said:
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especially by Go Terps.


I'm actually not sure what the hell I'm going to do. I'm not used to having this many picks...normally Indy trades them away.
RE: RE: Fully expecting my draft board to be decimated over the next 7 picks -  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13900175 Go Terps said:
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In comment 13900170 jlukes said:


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especially by Go Terps.



I'm actually not sure what the hell I'm going to do. I'm not used to having this many picks...normally Indy trades them away.

Kid in a candy store? Take a little bit of everything, maybe?
Browns pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/4/2018 2:03 pm : link
Andy is on the clock
Both of my guys are still here Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 2:06 pm : link
Although I think Todd McShay may like one choice moore than the other
RE: Both of my guys are still here Andy  
Lionhart28 : 4/4/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13900205 Mike in NY said:
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Although I think Todd McShay may like one choice moore than the other


Gotta think OL here, no? I don't see a crazy value at another position that'd make me wait on a hog molly...
RE: RE: Both of my guys are still here Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13900220 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13900205 Mike in NY said:


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Although I think Todd McShay may like one choice moore than the other



Gotta think OL here, no? I don't see a crazy value at another position that'd make me wait on a hog molly...


One can reasonably debate whether the other player is crazy value at 34
Hernandez, Jackson, Guice  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 2:14 pm : link
I had them quite a bit higher on my board than the rest. I'll figure it out in 5 mins, won't hold you up.
Taven Bryan  
SirYesSir : 4/4/2018 2:17 pm : link
looks great to me. was a consideration at pick #13.
RE: Taven Bryan  
Lionhart28 : 4/4/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13900240 SirYesSir said:
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looks great to me. was a consideration at pick #13.


Lots of separate sources making comparisons to Watt, albeit far less consistent. Browns already have some great talent outside on the DL, time to add someone next to Larry O.
Watt wasn't "Watt" when he was drafted either  
SirYesSir : 4/4/2018 2:27 pm : link
nobody expected that much from him. This kid has some very similar talents, and I can see why people make that comparison. Who knows if he'll live up to that, but he looks great
RE: Watt wasn't  
Lionhart28 : 4/4/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13900264 SirYesSir said:
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nobody expected that much from him. This kid has some very similar talents, and I can see why people make that comparison. Who knows if he'll live up to that, but he looks great


I love Hurst too, but you can't teach this kids size and athleticism.
RE: RE: Watt wasn't  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13900269 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13900264 SirYesSir said:


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nobody expected that much from him. This kid has some very similar talents, and I can see why people make that comparison. Who knows if he'll live up to that, but he looks great



I love Hurst too, but you can't teach this kids size and athleticism.


You can have both since you are now on the clock! If Andy wanted a Hog Molly there was a different direction I would have gone
So does Flower move to  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/4/2018 2:42 pm : link
RG if Orlando plays at RT? Flowers, could be a backup to either Tackle position as well.
Good pick, Andy  
Lionhart28 : 4/4/2018 2:56 pm : link
I had Brown just above Crosby.
awful pick andy  
QB Snacks : 4/4/2018 3:00 pm : link
relinquish your giant privileges lol
Sorry about the wait  
Go Terps : 4/4/2018 3:08 pm : link
Got a couple toys for Luck to play with.
DJ Moore was another guy I had looked at for #34  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 3:09 pm : link
He looks like an incredible athlete when you watch him. I know Sy likes Gallup better but for my money, Moore is the #1 WR in this draft.
Orlando Brown is falling hard  
Amtoft : 4/4/2018 3:10 pm : link
I wouldn't be shocked if he fell to the 4th round. To me this is an over reaction, but I also would have waited until the 3rd.
Nice pick Go Terps  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 3:11 pm : link
I had a small hope that D.J. Moore would fall to the Pack, but it was wishful thinking. I like the write ups about him. He sounds like a player.
Guice is a steal  
Amtoft : 4/4/2018 3:11 pm : link
if he falls that far in the draft I pray the Giants move up to get him!
In truth I would have preferred to cluster draft OL with both picks  
Go Terps : 4/4/2018 3:12 pm : link
Had there been guys that I thought were worth it, but I didn't see it.
RE: Guice is a steal  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13900375 Amtoft said:
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if he falls that far in the draft I pray the Giants move up to get him!


Speaking of trading up, there is one player I would love to trade up for right now if I were the Ravens in real life (alas no trading in Mock Draft)
Great job drafting bitch tits  
allstarjim : 4/4/2018 3:17 pm : link
to our beloved Giants, Andy.
Bitch tits aaaaaand  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2018 3:19 pm : link
the worst combine performance, maybe ever! He's got a lot going for him. But fuck it, he's not a bad player when you watch him.
RE: Bitch tits aaaaaand  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13900396 Andy in Halifax said:
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the worst combine performance, maybe ever! He's got a lot going for him. But fuck it, he's not a bad player when you watch him.


The same was said about Aaron Gibson
effin  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 3:52 pm : link
Terps
Hate the Giants pick  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 3:54 pm : link
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RE: effin  
Go Terps : 4/4/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13900472 jlukes said:
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Terps


Sorry. Which one?
RE: RE: effin  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13900492 Go Terps said:
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In comment 13900472 jlukes said:


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Terps



Sorry. Which one?


Both were in my Top 10. Michel was in my Top 3
I am ready with my pick, once the bears make their pick  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 4:12 pm : link
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Whenever I watch Baker  
est1986 : 4/4/2018 4:17 pm : link
His blind side is always protected. But this guy looked like a poor-man's Ereck Flowers at the combine. Not sure how I feel about Orlando Brown at 34. A few months ago no one had him falling out of round 1 and here we are now..
Since Optimus is in a much different time zone  
Mike in NY : 4/4/2018 4:40 pm : link
I e-mailed to let Optimus know of upcoming pick
Man I had two of my Top guys on the board  
jlukes : 4/4/2018 4:42 pm : link
and between them I just had to go with the Tight End. Hurst will fit well into Kubiak's system and be a nice option for Keenum and whatever young QB the Broncos end up bringing in.

The other guy on my board was the only other player I had left with a 1st round grade. Really surprised he hasn't been picked yet.
I think I am up right?  
Amtoft : 4/4/2018 6:20 pm : link
don't want to pick early and busy
Pretty sure I was up...  
Amtoft : 4/4/2018 6:26 pm : link
I went with Maurice Hurst... I love how he gets off the line and penetrates. He isn't the biggest and had some medical things that need checking, but I feel everything will be ok with him and he will be a nice DT in our attacking DEF. Adding good speed and quickness for our defense with Roquan Smith and now Hurst.
I'm asleep now  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2018 7:25 pm : link
But I know its my turn. Ill pick while you're all asleep before 9 am NY time. Don't worry. Its 3:24 am now where I am. Ill pick at around 10 am my time, which will be 2 am NY time.
F it  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2018 7:36 pm : link
Ill pick now. I know who I want.
I picked Billy Price, C, Ohio State  
Optimus-NY : 4/4/2018 7:45 pm : link
Best Center in the draft, hands down. I'm going back to sleep. Ill talk about it later. Peace 4 now.
RE: I'm asleep now  
BigBlueShock : 4/4/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13900768 Optimus-NY said:
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But I know its my turn. Ill pick while you're all asleep before 9 am NY time. Don't worry. Its 3:24 am now where I am. Ill pick at around 10 am my time, which will be 2 am NY time.

Haha, I’m not even sure what to think about this post. I mean, if you’re “asleep now”, how were you able to post this message on BBI? Posting on BBI in your sleep, now that’s dedication!
Will give Torrag 30 mins...  
Matt G : 4/4/2018 8:03 pm : link
But have his picks
I have meetings from 8-11:30am...  
Matt G : 4/4/2018 9:31 pm : link
If someone would be willing to post my pick, I will send it over...
RE: I have meetings from 8-11:30am...  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13900868 Matt G said:
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If someone would be willing to post my pick, I will send it over...
I will be happy to lend you a hand. You pick right after so it makes sense
Redskin pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/4/2018 10:46 pm : link
Mad Plaid is on the clock
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2018 11:18 pm : link
Cincinnati (Matt G) is on the clock
hubbard is no davenport madplaid...  
SirYesSir : 4/4/2018 11:58 pm : link
sorry, just rubbing it in
Mad  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 12:00 am : link
That’s a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)
SYS  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 12:01 am : link
That last gif... Holy shit.
never thought I'd be taking a tight end in round 2  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2018 12:02 am : link
but I think it makes a lot of long-term sense for Washington.

Hunter Henry went at pick 35, Adam Shaheen at 45, so taking Goedert at 44 feels like fair value to me.

I think Hunter Henry is a good comparison, but I would have hopes he could get closer to that Kelce level. He'll need to get stronger and more physical, I'd only call him a willing blocker now, but Dakota used him on those option draws, set him out wide for fades at the goal-line, used him on screens, all the types of things we've seen Kelce excel at in the league.
there are dozens of clips of Goedert  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2018 12:10 am : link
running that seam pattern, anywhere from 10 to 20+ yards, and he is outstanding at them. He will demand attention in the middle of the field and give wr's room to operate outside the hashes
RE: RE: I'm asleep now  
Optimus-NY : 4/5/2018 1:09 am : link
In comment 13900797 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13900768 Optimus-NY said:


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But I know its my turn. Ill pick while you're all asleep before 9 am NY time. Don't worry. Its 3:24 am now where I am. Ill pick at around 10 am my time, which will be 2 am NY time.


Haha, I’m not even sure what to think about this post. I mean, if you’re “asleep now”, how were you able to post this message on BBI? Posting on BBI in your sleep, now that’s dedication!



LOL BBS. I'm reading what I wrote now and am just a=shaking my head and laughing to myself at work. WTF? Haha!
I can’t believe Daniels lasted this long  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 6:52 am : link
If I were the Giants I would have taken either him or WR D.J. Moore at 34
RE: I can’t believe Daniels lasted this long  
jlukes : 4/5/2018 6:54 am : link
In comment 13901011 Mike in NY said:
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If I were the Giants I would have taken either him or WR D.J. Moore at 34


I cannot believe he did either. Had Denver not got Nelson in the first Daniels was the easy pick in the 2nd.

Daniels is likely a first round pick in a few weeks
Getting Closer!!!  
Boatie Warrant : 4/5/2018 8:01 am : link
Getting antsy waiting till round 3 to make my first pick.
I was hoping  
DCPollaro : 4/5/2018 8:31 am : link
Daniels fell to me but I am a big fan of Kirk
RE: hubbard is no davenport madplaid...  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 9:41 am : link
In comment 13900971 SirYesSir said:
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sorry, just rubbing it in

Ha Ha. Grummble grumble
RE: Mad  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 9:45 am : link
In comment 13900973 Lionhart28 said:
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That’s a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)

Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!

I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.
Thanks for helping me out Armstead  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 10:08 am : link
Harrison was my BPA and I would have felt compelled to take him, but Ravens have too many needs
RE: RE: Mad  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 13901128 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13900973 Lionhart28 said:


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That’s a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)


Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!

I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.



That Hubbard highlight isn't that bad, he's only unblocked because the pulling lineman couldn't get there in time, Hubbard really flew in there. He looks like he could be a TJ Watt type of player
both Harrison and Kirk  
SirYesSir : 4/5/2018 10:13 am : link
were in my top group along with one rb when I took Goedert. not surprised to see them both go right after.
Quick recap of my two picks yesterday for the Pats...  
Torrag : 4/5/2018 10:46 am : link
...since I wasn't around. Got Guice late first, was mildly and pleasantly surprised. He's a legit 1st round tailback with a mutiple skillset and explosive playmaking ability at a position the Pats have a need. So that's a win.

Kolton Miller in the 2nd. The worry with Miller was until 2017 he hadn't stayed clean enough in the health department. Nothing catastrophic just missed time. He stayed on the field in 2017 and that combined with his good tape, athletic ability and a nice physique for the position made him the choice. Also bolsters a position hit hard in free agency.
Sorry again about the wait  
Go Terps : 4/5/2018 10:51 am : link
It's tough with the time difference sometimes.
RE: Sorry again about the wait  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 13901245 Go Terps said:
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It's tough with the time difference sometimes.


No need to apologize. An hour is not that long at this time of the day. When we have to start having MadPlaid send out the bat signal then it is an issue!
Cowboys select Harrison Phillips  
Rick in Dallas : 4/5/2018 11:09 am : link
Will add some pass rush ability at tackle position.
Tough choice between Phillips and Malik Jefferson from Texas.
RE: RE: RE: Mad  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 11:16 am : link
In comment 13901168 SirYesSir said:
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In comment 13901128 MadPlaid said:


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In comment 13900973 Lionhart28 said:


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That’s a weak gif, Hubbard is totally unblocked by that nonsense PSU OL! Great pick though ;)


Well, as SirYesSir has pointed out, Hubbard is not Davenport. Maybe the PSU OL were thinking that and totally dismissed him? Big mistake!

I liked what I read about Hubbard from the draft evaporators. Solid all around player, tough against the run. In rotation with other DL and Ends in Green Bay, he should really do well. As a consolation prize for having missed out on Davenport, I'm happy.




That Hubbard highlight isn't that bad, he's only unblocked because the pulling lineman couldn't get there in time, Hubbard really flew in there. He looks like he could be a TJ Watt type of player


That pulling lineman is slow-footed Steven Gonzalez (Penn State alum here) and any scheme that tells him to pull, especially against the likes of that athletic OSU DL is crap. That said, Hubbard is a really good player. Not spectacular at anything but a guy who can contribute day one and will be a long-time starter in the NFL.
Would have taken Phillips if he were still there  
YAJ2112 : 4/5/2018 11:18 am : link
settled for my next best player, Oliver
Ravens 2nd Round pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 11:28 am : link
Tough call between Miller and a different player at the same position, but I thought Miller was a bit safer of an option. Reminds me of Sterling Shepard although a bit more athletic
RE: Thanks for helping me out Armstead  
armstead98 : 4/5/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13901165 Mike in NY said:
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Harrison was my BPA and I would have felt compelled to take him, but Ravens have too many needs


I struggled with this pick. Harrison fills a need and seems to have a high floor. Maybe not as high of a ceiling as some of the DBs or another safety that were available.

Came away with two physical defensive players who can start right away so happy with the first two picks.
Bills take  
superspynyg : 4/5/2018 12:33 pm : link
G Braden Smith Auburn with pick 53
RE: Ravens 2nd Round pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 12:59 pm : link
In comment 13901296 Mike in NY said:
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Tough call between Miller and a different player at the same position, but I thought Miller was a bit safer of an option. Reminds me of Sterling Shepard although a bit more athletic

Nice pick, Mike. I was very tempted to select him over Hubbard mainly because of Sy's write up. He glowingly reviewed Miller and even compared him to Antonio Brown. With that kind of endorsement, I wanted him in Green Bay, but alas I decided to go another way.
Nightmare  
Thegratefulhead : 4/5/2018 1:45 pm : link
It would be a nightmare for me if we end up with Darnold and Brown. I think Webb will be a better pro than Darnold. I think Flowers will be a better Right Tackle than Brown. Brown is weak. The thought of Rosen with the Jets is completely unpalatable.
Panthers were...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/5/2018 1:45 pm : link
looking hard at Oliver, but that asswipe YAJ swooped in!
email was sent to KC  
Matt G : 4/5/2018 1:52 pm : link
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RE: Panthers were...  
YAJ2112 : 4/5/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13901531 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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looking hard at Oliver, but that asswipe YAJ swooped in!


Maybe if you ever invited me to one of your poker games I might have let him slide past
Touche  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/5/2018 1:55 pm : link
Problem is - we only play about once a year anymore!
RE: email was sent to KC  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13901540 Matt G said:
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If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.
It is just as good as a Mad Plaid call out thread  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 2:02 pm : link
As soon as I post who my thoughts on the autopick will be, the person picks
...  
BleedBlue : 4/5/2018 2:06 pm : link
i would throw my TV a mile if brown is the pick at 34....seriously horrible selection there imo
Panthers begin to look for life after Olsen...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/5/2018 2:06 pm : link
They will lose some in the blocking department, but Gesicki will pose matchup nightmares for LB's
I'm available for a road trip to  
YAJ2112 : 4/5/2018 2:08 pm : link
Cherokee too if you ever head that way to play
Great..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/5/2018 2:12 pm : link
I usually go up for the WSOP circuit event, but I'll be at a trade show at the end of the month when it is going on. Maybe in the Fall.
RE: RE: email was sent to KC  
Matt G : 4/5/2018 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13901561 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13901540 Matt G said:


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If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.

Makes sense to me... Can someone post the pick when the clock expires... I'm running to a meeting
RE: RE: RE: email was sent to KC  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13901624 Matt G said:
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In comment 13901561 Mike in NY said:


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If EA does not show up I suggest skipping over D.J. Chark because they spent a lot on WR's in Free Agency and already have Hill, Kelce, Hunt in that offense. Lorenzo Carter is next on the list and fills a much bigger need.


Makes sense to me... Can someone post the pick when the clock expires... I'm running to a meeting


KC ended up selecting before time expired. Currently Tennessee is on the clock
RE: It is just as good as a Mad Plaid call out thread  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13901577 Mike in NY said:
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As soon as I post who my thoughts on the autopick will be, the person picks

Hey, don't be thinking of taking over my thing! Call outs rule!
RE: Panthers were...  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13901531 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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looking hard at Oliver, but that asswipe YAJ swooped in!

I had my eye on Oliver as well, and if things had played out differently, I would have likely picked him for my 2.

Nice pick up, YAJ
RE: RE: Panthers were...  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13901646 MadPlaid said:
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looking hard at Oliver, but that asswipe YAJ swooped in!


I had my eye on Oliver as well, and if things had played out differently, I would have likely picked him for my 2.

Nice pick up, YAJ


He was on my short list as well but I knew I would end up with one of the 2 WR at the top of my list
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 2:31 pm : link
I liked Oliver so much, I almost went CB two rounds in a row. I only didn't do it because I thought it would be neglecting other areas of need just to add a lot of talent to one position. Not a good move in the long run I thought.
RE: Mike  
allstarjim : 4/5/2018 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13901661 MadPlaid said:
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I liked Oliver so much, I almost went CB two rounds in a row. I only didn't do it because I thought it would be neglecting other areas of need just to add a lot of talent to one position. Not a good move in the long run I thought.


I actually had to do a little homework because Oliver was in play when I took Josh Jackson in the first round. I thought Jackson was the better player, but Oliver made me think about it.
RE: RE: Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13901698 allstarjim said:
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I liked Oliver so much, I almost went CB two rounds in a row. I only didn't do it because I thought it would be neglecting other areas of need just to add a lot of talent to one position. Not a good move in the long run I thought.



I actually had to do a little homework because Oliver was in play when I took Josh Jackson in the first round. I thought Jackson was the better player, but Oliver made me think about it.


If Jackson was there at 33, he was the pick. Love that guy. Oliver has been in my top ten since the beginning of the round as well.
FMIC  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 3:10 pm : link
+1 on your pick. -2 on your tasteless university name.
Tennessee's clock expires in 21 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 3:49 pm : link
WR is their biggest need but they did draft one in the first round last year and added Sutton already in the mock draft. Do they draft Chark or do we bypass for Lorenzo Carter?
Carter was picked, I thought  
allstarjim : 4/5/2018 3:52 pm : link
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RE: Carter was picked, I thought  
Mike in NY : 4/5/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13901850 allstarjim said:
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No, EA came and selected Malik Jefferson before his clock expired
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 4:11 pm : link
NYG27 hasn't had any activity on BBI since 1:21pm. I think you should go ahead with the autopick.
RE: RE: Carter was picked, I thought  
allstarjim : 4/5/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13901852 Mike in NY said:
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No, EA came and selected Malik Jefferson before his clock expired


Gotcha. Yup, I think it's going to be auto-pick time here.
Titans just drafted  
NYG27 : 4/5/2018 4:19 pm : link
LB Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
And the Call Out thread reels in another one!  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 4:26 pm : link
Victory!

Ha, NYG27 picked the autopick. Go figure.
NOGAINDAYNE  
allstarjim : 4/5/2018 4:27 pm : link
Is on the clock.
RE: And the Call Out thread reels in another one!  
NYG27 : 4/5/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13901922 MadPlaid said:
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Victory!

Ha, NYG27 picked the autopick. Go figure.


I had him as my top pick since the early 40's and was hoping he dropped. I thought he was already drafted and was researching my next pick but after a second glance, I saw he was still on the board.
I'm glad it worked out for you, NYG27  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 4:35 pm : link
It is nice when a plan comes together.
It seems like there is less  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 5:07 pm : link
banter and discussion this year, or is that just me? I mean, there hasn't been a single Amtoft rant yet and it makes me sad.
Yeah, what gives?!  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 5:11 pm : link
It isn't a proper mock without a full fledged Amtoft raging butt kicking.
RE: It seems like there is less  
NoGainDayne : 4/5/2018 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13901997 Lionhart28 said:
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banter and discussion this year, or is that just me? I mean, there hasn't been a single Amtoft rant yet and it makes me sad.


Screw you Lionhart! You get all the good picks every year!
Let's face it NGD  
MadPlaid : 4/5/2018 5:36 pm : link
Lion is wicked smart.
RE: RE: It seems like there is less  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13902032 NoGainDayne said:
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banter and discussion this year, or is that just me? I mean, there hasn't been a single Amtoft rant yet and it makes me sad.



Screw you Lionhart! You get all the good picks every year!


Well if makes you feel any better, Davis was one of 3 players I've been looking at for 20+ picks.
Lol I was talking about the Browns getting  
NoGainDayne : 4/5/2018 6:27 pm : link
high picks but you are a decent drafter too buddy ;)
RE: Lol I was talking about the Browns getting  
Lionhart28 : 4/5/2018 6:34 pm : link
In comment 13902074 NoGainDayne said:
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high picks but you are a decent drafter too buddy ;)


I knew you were, I just figured you'd appreciate sniping one of my guys haha
Updated...  
Matt G : 4/5/2018 9:51 pm : link
Round 1
1. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
2. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Sam Darnold, QB, USC
3. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Ind) - Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
4. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
5. Denver (jlukes) - Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
6. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State
7. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
8. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
9. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
10. Oakland (Amtoft) - Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia
11. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State – auto selection
12. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cin) – Derwin James, S, Florida State
13. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio
14. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
15. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
16. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Harold Landry, DE/OLB, Boston College
17. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Vita Vea, DT, Washington
18. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Connor Williams, OT, Texas
19. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
20. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia
21. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf) - Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
22. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from KC) - Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
23. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Arden Key, DE, LSU
24. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Justin Reid, S, Stanford
25. Tennessee (NYG27) - Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist
26. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Leighton Vander Esch, OLB, Boise State
27. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida
28. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Rashaan Evans, ILB, Alabama
29. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Will Hernandez, OG, Texas-El Paso
30. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
31. New England (Torrag) - Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
32. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Ronald Jones, RB, USC

Round 2

33. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Donte Jackson, CB, LSU
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
40. Denver (jlukes) - Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
41. Oakland (Amtoft) - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
42. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Billy Price, C, Ohio State
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF) - Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
46. Cincinnati (Matt G) - James Daniels, C, Iowa
47. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea) - Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
51. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
53. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn
54. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR) - Equanimeous St.Brown, WR, Notre Dame
57. Tennessee (NYG27) - Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne) - Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.) - Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - On the clock
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
63. New England (Torrag)
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi)

Round 3

65. Buffalo (superspynyg) Bills (from Cle)
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.)
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi)
71. Denver (jlukes)
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
73. Miami (Optimus-NY)
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
75. Oakland (Amtoft)
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
77. Cincinnati (Matt G)
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was)
79. Arizona (DCPollaro)
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea)
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
82. Detroit (YAJ2112)
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf)
86. Kansas City (English Alaister)
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT)
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
89. Tennessee (NYG27)
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
91. New Orleans (Saos1n)
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
95. New England (Torrag)
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi)
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory)
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory)
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
Who's the pick for Pittsburgh?  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 10:25 am : link
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RE: Who's the pick for Pittsburgh?  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 13902591 jlukes said:
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Based on the player rankings, Bates, Chubb, Uchenna Nwosu would all make sense. No CBs rated that highly right now...
Next guy on the list is D.J. Chark/WR/LSU  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 10:28 am : link
Pittsburgh has drafted similarly to Green Bay in that they have no objection to taking a 2nd Round WR to be the #3 guy. Depth behind Brown and Juju Smith-Schuster is a question and Chark would add some size and what they thought they were getting with Martavis Bryant
Dang  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 10:30 am : link
I figured we would be moving along today. I got three 3rd round picks to work on.
Sorry about the late pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2018 10:38 am : link
my head has been spinning recently.

Big Ben has been threatening to retire almost every year. Rudolph has a great arm, and now has the luxury of sitting behind a future hall of famer to learn the nuances of the NFL game.


Pittsburgh has developed a few backup QBs in the past that have filled in nicely for Ben. Mason will have an opportunity to be the guy in the future.

I chose a QB in last years draft for the same reason, but since Pittsburgh didn't do this last season, I find myself once again picking one up.
RE: Sorry about the late pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 10:41 am : link
In comment 13902615 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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my head has been spinning recently.

Big Ben has been threatening to retire almost every year. Rudolph has a great arm, and now has the luxury of sitting behind a future hall of famer to learn the nuances of the NFL game.


Pittsburgh has developed a few backup QBs in the past that have filled in nicely for Ben. Mason will have an opportunity to be the guy in the future.

I chose a QB in last years draft for the same reason, but since Pittsburgh didn't do this last season, I find myself once again picking one up.


Don't worry BBDtS, I have to draft a QB every year for Cleveland.
I like the pick of Rudolph at this point  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 10:41 am : link
I do not think he is that far off the "top four" QB's in this draft, but can be had later
I think developmental QB  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 10:44 am : link
is a good pick for Pittsburgh but not sure the second round is where I would draft one. Rudolph does look like a good prospect.

Side not: made myself laugh when I looked to see who picked next and saw it was Kevin in CT. All I could hear in my head was the Mom from Home Alone "KEVIN!"
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RE: I like the pick of Rudolph at this point  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13902619 Mike in NY said:
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I do not think he is that far off the "top four" QB's in this draft, but can be had later


Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.

Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.
RE: RE: I like the pick of Rudolph at this point  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 13902631 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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I do not think he is that far off the "top four" QB's in this draft, but can be had later



Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.

Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.


By all reports, he's got his head screwed on right as well. I think he could be a player.
RE: RE: RE: I like the pick of Rudolph at this point  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/6/2018 10:54 am : link
In comment 13902634 Lionhart28 said:
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I do not think he is that far off the "top four" QB's in this draft, but can be had later



Agree. If Pittsburgh had a lower second round draft pick it probably would have been a different pick all together, but at end of the round, there isn't a huge difference between it being 2nd or early 3rd round pick.

Again I think he has a great toolset. I hate the system he comes from, I have faith in the Pitt coaches to coach him up. They have a good track record for doing so.



By all reports, he's got his head screwed on right as well. I think he could be a player.


If Rudolph was in a pro-system in college, I think he would be considered 1st round talent. He just is going to take some grooming of at minimum a year. Pitt can do that and maybe more.

If Ben bails, then its going to be trial by fire, at which point I will either be drafting pretty high or I would have secured my QB of the future with a 2nd rounder!
I will give someone else the pleasure of calling out Kevin  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 11:30 am : link
According to list on spreadsheet, top name is D.J. Chark, WR, LSU and I see no reason to pass on him based on Matt's standards
I'm here  
Kevin in CT : 4/6/2018 12:15 pm : link
Give me a couple of minutes.
Mason would have been a great pick for New Orleans  
superspynyg : 4/6/2018 12:25 pm : link
Sits behind Drew for 2 years and learns.
Rasheem Green is the pick  
Kevin in CT : 4/6/2018 12:25 pm : link
Love this guys motor. Only 20 years old and probably could have benefited staying in college for one more year where he had the potential to be a top 10 pick in the 2019 draft.

Pretty happy he landed here for the Jags.
And another successful call out thread  
MadPlaid : 4/6/2018 12:28 pm : link
Hazzah!!
Rudolph is a guy I can't figure out  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 12:29 pm : link
I can't figure out why he's seen as a tier or two below the other guys. He looks like a nice QB to me.
Ragnow, great pick imo  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 12:48 pm : link
Was hoping he'd drop to my pick. Got close, I was getting my hopes up a bit.
Love getting Frank Ragnow here  
allstarjim : 4/6/2018 12:53 pm : link
I think Rags has borderline 1st round/early 2nd round value.

He also fits a need as the Vikings needed a OG. I'm either going to slot Ragnow right in at OG or I'm going to move Elflein over to OG, either way, I've once again solidified this line for Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins.

Ragnow is mean and nasty, and many experts have him over Billy Price who went much earlier. In the real draft, I would love him to find his way onto the Giants in the 2nd or 3rd round. Rags played four years with the Razorbacks, 2,603 snaps, allowed just 35 pressures and 0 sacks. And he is nasty in the run game, too.
Very nice pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 12:57 pm : link
I was surprised to still see him on the board as it got closer to the 3rd round
RE: Love getting Frank Ragnow here  
Amtoft : 4/6/2018 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13902820 allstarjim said:
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I think Rags has borderline 1st round/early 2nd round value.

He also fits a need as the Vikings needed a OG. I'm either going to slot Ragnow right in at OG or I'm going to move Elflein over to OG, either way, I've once again solidified this line for Dalvin Cook and Kirk Cousins.

Ragnow is mean and nasty, and many experts have him over Billy Price who went much earlier. In the real draft, I would love him to find his way onto the Giants in the 2nd or 3rd round. Rags played four years with the Razorbacks, 2,603 snaps, allowed just 35 pressures and 0 sacks. And he is nasty in the run game, too.


If he didn't get injured early and miss most of the year he would be going higher than this. This is actually a good draft with centers and Ragnow is someone I am hoping falls to one of our two 3rd rounders... Good pick.
Torrag usually e-mails Matt his board  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 2:08 pm : link
BPA according to list is still D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
Brownies are ready to rock  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 2:18 pm : link
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RE: Torrag usually e-mails Matt his board  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13902896 Mike in NY said:
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BPA according to list is still D.J. Chark, WR, LSU


Pats could really use Chark after trading their deep threat this week.
Slooooooooow  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/6/2018 2:25 pm : link
Draft day today!
I'm around for another hour and 15 mins  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 2:25 pm : link
Hopefully it gets to me by then. If I'm going to be long I'll send a list to Matt.
I have a board from NE  
Matt G : 4/6/2018 2:27 pm : link
But he had only asked me to post his last two picks, so was waiting for him... I will post shortly
Just finding the right  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 3:01 pm : link
gif, boys...
Pick is in...  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 3:05 pm : link
Because of his size, this cat is a polarizing prospect. But if you put on the film, man can he play. In Gregg Williams' attacking scheme, we'll find a spot to use Okoronkwo as a pass rusher. His draft projections are all over the place, but man, just put on the film. This dude can PLAY. Speed, strength, quickness, balance, long arms (especially important for his short frame). We'll decide down the line whether he's going to be a DE or an OLB for us, but for now, it doesn't matter. GET TO THE QB, YOUNG MAN.
On to round 3!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 3:08 pm : link
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I was looking at him myself Lionhart  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 3:08 pm : link
He really stands out in his videoclips on draft breakdown
RE: I was looking at him myself Lionhart  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13903004 Andy in Halifax said:
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He really stands out in his videoclips on draft breakdown


His projections are all over the place. From sneaking into the late first round to fifth round, from what I've seen. All I know is that pass rushers are at a premium and I think some team falls in love with him and he goes in the 2nd. Honestly, I almost took him over Bryan at 33.
Lots of interesting names for Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 4:00 pm : link
At a wide variety of positions. Still don't like the 2nd Round selection, but that is just me.
RE: Lots of interesting names for Andy  
Eric on Li : 4/6/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13903073 Mike in NY said:
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At a wide variety of positions. Still don't like the 2nd Round selection, but that is just me.


Yeah I'd have rathered someone safer like Crosby, Daniels or Price if OL was the pick.

I'm gonna guess Chubb is the pick. He matches from a need/value standpoint.

If it were me Josey Jewell or Tim Settle would probably be the pick. Maybe Anthony Averett or Jessie Bates. A lot of DB depth though so I'd feel pretty good about waiting until the 4th round.
RE: RE: Lots of interesting names for Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13903081 Eric on Li said:
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At a wide variety of positions. Still don't like the 2nd Round selection, but that is just me.



Yeah I'd have rathered someone safer like Crosby, Daniels or Price if OL was the pick.

I'm gonna guess Chubb is the pick. He matches from a need/value standpoint.

If it were me Josey Jewell or Tim Settle would probably be the pick. Maybe Anthony Averett or Jessie Bates. A lot of DB depth though so I'd feel pretty good about waiting until the 4th round.


Also Kerryon Johnson at RB, WR D.J. Chark, OLB Kemoko Turay to name a few
Other possible names  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 4:33 pm : link
Ochenna Nwosu, Josh Sweat

James Washington, Deontay Burnett

D'Shawn Hand, Derek Nnandi

Mason Cole
Andy's time expires in less than 10 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 5:46 pm : link
Based on rules we have to go in order of the list to the right of the picks (unless there is a reason like it being the Eagles and top name is a QB) and that is D.J. Chark. Can't say that meets the rules to pass on the top name
RE: Andy's time expires in less than 10 minutes  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13903151 Mike in NY said:
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Based on rules we have to go in order of the list to the right of the picks (unless there is a reason like it being the Eagles and top name is a QB) and that is D.J. Chark. Can't say that meets the rules to pass on the top name


Well at least he's got all weekend now. As a Giants fan, assuming we've taken a QB and an OL, with the depth at WR, I am thinking front 7 with this pick.
So close and 3 prospects at the top of my list!  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 6:31 pm : link
Ooooooooooooooh
Andy in Halifax should get us a WR  
est1986 : 4/6/2018 6:40 pm : link
With one of these two picks. Considering who is on the board at this point, I would say get a WR and a LB with these two third round picks. Chark/Washington and Nwosu would be nice
ok Terps,  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 6:57 pm : link
dont mess up my pick!
on a very slow draft day  
Rick in Dallas : 4/6/2018 7:08 pm : link
why did we auto pick for our good friend Andy???
Not a sexy pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/6/2018 7:16 pm : link
But I think O'Niell has the most upside of the Tackles in this area. He needs to add weight but it is hard to teach the foot speed he has at the position.
RE: Not a sexy pick  
Jay on the Island : 4/6/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13903219 Boatie Warrant said:
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But I think O'Niell has the most upside of the Tackles in this area. He needs to add weight but it is hard to teach the foot speed he has at the position.

That's a great pick. O'Neill will not contribute year one but he has good starting LT upside. I am hoping he falls to the Giants in round 3.
RE: on a very slow draft day  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 8:13 pm : link
In comment 13903207 Rick in Dallas said:
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why did we auto pick for our good friend Andy???


Because we were following the rules. Can't start making special exceptions
RE: RE: Not a sexy pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13903233 Jay on the Island said:
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But I think O'Niell has the most upside of the Tackles in this area. He needs to add weight but it is hard to teach the foot speed he has at the position.


That's a great pick. O'Neill will not contribute year one but he has good starting LT upside. I am hoping he falls to the Giants in round 3.


Not that it would change his draft status a whole lot since he wont be a high pick, but O'Neil also had some off the field issues and at least one suspension.
Holy fuck boys  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 8:48 pm : link
The slowest fucking day in BBI mock draft history and you're going to pull the shoot on me at 5:54 on a Friday afternoon? I was here all day waiting and ready.

I sent Matt a board of two people, i see now that Penny went already but my other guy was still there.
Since none took a WR  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 8:52 pm : link
If you want to replace Chark with other guy you can. Penny was selected before you
Jeez dude relaxy  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 8:53 pm : link
yeah it was a slow day, so we needed to keep it moving and following the rules.

We can just start making special exceptions and tweaking the rules as we go. Time expired and a pick was made for you, just like it would have been for anyone else. You are back on the clock, so go ahead and make your pick
we CANT* start making exceptions  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 8:54 pm : link
I got auto picked last year for one pick. It sucks, but life goes on
Hold on stop the presses!  
Amtoft : 4/6/2018 8:58 pm : link
He sent in a player board! That is different then missing his pick. He should get the player on his board or why do we waste time sending them in. So while you guys want to talk about rules you are wrong. When a board is sent that is as good as a pick
well who was the other guy on his board then?  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 9:00 pm : link
he hasn't mentioned that yet.
RE: well who was the other guy on his board then?  
Amtoft : 4/6/2018 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13903369 jlukes said:
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he hasn't mentioned that yet.


Maybe he is rightfully waiting for Matt to confirm he had another player in his board. I wouldn’t pick either until this is resolved but if you send a board you are good IMO
I believe him  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 9:05 pm : link
don't need this to drag on longer than it has. Take off the clark pick, make that pick the other guy from his board and then he makes his other pick to keep it moving.
Not a big deal really, but annoying to have a snails pace  
Andy in Halifax : 4/6/2018 9:06 pm : link
All day then not have the board pick. That WR might even be better for all i know but my email to Matt was:
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB

Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?
RE: Not a big deal really, but annoying to have a snails pace  
Mike in NY : 4/6/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13903383 Andy in Halifax said:
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All day then not have the board pick. That WR might even be better for all i know but my email to Matt was:
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB

Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?


#2 was there. #1 was off the board. You are on the clock again so take Shaqueem with your last pick and make second one now and Chark back into pool
RE: Not a big deal really, but annoying to have a snails pace  
jlukes : 4/6/2018 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13903383 Andy in Halifax said:
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All day then not have the board pick. That WR might even be better for all i know but my email to Matt was:
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB

Maybe i fucked up and they were both taken?


Griffin was not taken. Go ahead and announce the corrected pick in the selection thread (clark goes back on the draft board) and then make your next selection
Love Nick Chubb  
Amtoft : 4/6/2018 9:33 pm : link
Was hoping he would have fallen to the Raiders. He was on my short list for my second round pick! He is the 3rd best RB in this draft. Better than his back up Sony Mikel
RE: Love Nick Chubb  
Lionhart28 : 4/6/2018 10:50 pm : link
In comment 13903427 Amtoft said:
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Was hoping he would have fallen to the Raiders. He was on my short list for my second round pick! He is the 3rd best RB in this draft. Better than his back up Sony Mikel


I actually agree. He’s got great feet to go with the power. I see him as a slightly better, more powerful Mark Ingram.
I'm here  
Optimus-NY : 4/6/2018 11:17 pm : link
Pick is coming up now for the Fish at 73
I picked B.J. Hill  
Optimus-NY : 4/6/2018 11:33 pm : link
Mayock likened him to Linval Joseph strength-wise, which is good enough for me:

Mayock quote about Hill

"He's a powerful man like a Linval Joseph."@MikeMayock on @NCState DT @BJHill5, his @SeniorBowl Player of the Day 🏆
9:34 AM - Jan 24, 2018


NFL Network names BJ Hill Senior Bowl ‘Player of the Day’ - By Lou Pascucci - Packinsider.com - Published on Jan. 24, 2018 - ( New Window )
Oops...wrong Twitter link for the first one I posted  
Optimus-NY : 4/6/2018 11:37 pm : link
See below...

Mayock likens Hill to Linval Joseph - ( New Window )
RE: Not a big deal really, but annoying to have a snails pace  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 1:27 am : link
In comment 13903383 Andy in Halifax said:
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All day then not have the board pick. That WR might even be better for all i know but my email to Matt was:
1. Rashaad Penny
2. The one handed LB

Maybe i fucked up and they were both
taken?


You selected a one handed LB while Uchenna Nwosu was still available? Underwhelming.
Updated  
Matt G : 4/7/2018 7:29 am : link

Round 2

33. Cleveland (Lionhart28) - Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
34. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
35. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Hou) - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
36. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
37. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ) - D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland
38. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Donte Jackson, CB, LSU
39. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Michael Gallup, WR, Colorado State
40. Denver (jlukes) - Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
41. Oakland (Amtoft) - Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
42. Miami (Optimus-NY) - Billy Price, C, Ohio State
43. New England (Torrag) (from SF) - Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA
44. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
45. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
46. Cincinnati (Matt G) - James Daniels, C, Iowa
47. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
48. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama
49. Indianapolis (Go Terps) (from NYJ, Sea) - Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State
50. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford
51. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado
52. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
53. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Braden Smith, OG, Auburn
54. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas
55. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State
56. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from LAR) - Equanimeous St.Brown, WR, Notre Dame
57. Tennessee (NYG27) - Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia
58. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne) - Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn
59. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from N.O.) - Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
60. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
61. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Rasheem Green, DE, Southern California
62. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
63. New England (Torrag) - Kevin Toliver, CB, LSU
64. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from Phi) - Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma

Round 3

65. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cle) - Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) – Shaquem Griffin, OLB, Central Florida
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Geron Christian, OT, Louisville
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi) - Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
71. Denver (jlukes) - Kemoko Turay, OLB, Rutgers
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Dane Pettis, WR, Washington
73. Miami (Optimus-NY) - B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - On the clock
75. Oakland (Amtoft)
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid)
77. Cincinnati (Matt G)
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was)
79. Arizona (DCPollaro)
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea)
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
82. Detroit (YAJ2112)
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf)
86. Kansas City (English Alaister)
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT)
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
89. Tennessee (NYG27)
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) (NoGainDayne)
91. New Orleans (Saos1n)
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
95. New England (Torrag)
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi)
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory)
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory)
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
Giants mid round picks are brutal  
jlukes : 4/7/2018 7:33 am : link
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Matt,  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2018 8:20 am : link
not that it really matters, but just a heads up, it's Dante Pettis, not Dane.

Thanks!
RE: Giants mid round picks are brutal  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 9:48 am : link
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Agreed. I am glad Andy in Halifax is not our GM. His last three picks are horrible. Remote control throwing and TV breaker quality. Absolutely, horrendous.
RE: Matt,  
Matt G : 4/7/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 13903778 Jon in NYC said:
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not that it really matters, but just a heads up, it's Dante Pettis, not Dane.

Thanks!


Thanks Jon
I think if the board  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2018 10:17 am : link
broke like this I'd go Price, Chubb, Turay. Solidify the run game and then get an explosive pass rusher to groom behind Vernon/Martin.
RE: I think if the board  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13903882 Jon in NYC said:
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broke like this I'd go Price, Chubb, Turay. Solidify the run game and then get an explosive pass rusher to groom behind Vernon/Martin.


I love your picks better. I will replace Turay with Uchenna Nwosu, a true kicka$$ 3 - 4 linebacker, though.
RE: Giants mid round picks are brutal  
superspynyg : 4/7/2018 10:31 am : link
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev
RE: RE: Giants mid round picks are brutal  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 10:44 am : link
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev

No, we will not be voting out Andy because you guys don't like his picks this year. He's making the choices he feels are the best. He's done very well for the Giants in the BBI Mock Draft over the years, so he is entitled to the benefit of doubt. Cut the guy some slack.
RE: RE: Giants mid round picks are brutal  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 10:46 am : link
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev


Seconded. He has been worst than Reese/Ross over the years. I know it is make believe, but he is killing me. SMH

Matt G., we need a new Giant's GM next year. Seriously.☹😞
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MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 10:49 am : link
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev



Seconded. He has been worst than Reese/Ross over the years. I know it is make believe, but he is killing me. SMH

Matt G., we need a new Giant's GM next year. Seriously.☹😞

Excuse me, dk, but are you a GM in the Mock Draft? You are not, so you don't get a say in this. Or in other words, STFU!
Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
Rick in Dallas : 4/7/2018 10:56 am : link
He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.
Great value pick in getting James Washington  
allstarjim : 4/7/2018 11:33 am : link
at this point in the draft.
RE: RE: Giants mid round picks are brutal  
Lionhart28 : 4/7/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 13903887 superspynyg said:
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Can we vote him out as GM for next year. Give him Dallas Buffalo or Clev


How about he keeps the Giants and we give him Buffalo? Dick.
RE: Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 11:55 am : link
In comment 13903905 Rick in Dallas said:
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.


He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.

His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.
Usually the grief is saved for Amtoft  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2018 11:58 am : link
Who is conveniently on the clock
RE: RE: Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
Jon in NYC : 4/7/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13903959 dk in TX said:
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.



He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.

His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.


You've gotta chill. No need to antagonize.
RE: RE: Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13903959 dk in TX said:
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.



He has been brutal for a long time. He is clueless. We need a new GM. Reese/Ross have been fired and Andy in Halifax is still our GM.

His brutal picks takes the joy away from this make-believe BBI draft.

Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!
Eric of BBI/Mat G.  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 12:06 pm : link
It is time to infuse new blood in this BBI Mock Draft process. We need to replace incompetent and anachronistic GMs.

Dk in Tx  
Rick in Dallas : 4/7/2018 12:09 pm : link
You are taking the joy out of our fun mock draft. Not Andy.
If you don’t Like it stay off the mock draft threads.
RE: RE: RE: Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 12:14 pm : link
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.



Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!



How old are you? Are you capable of making a single statement without resorting to obscenity?

"Obscenity is the last resort of the inarticulate....." You get the point.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lighten up on Andy’s picks  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 12:22 pm : link
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He will remain the Giants GM in our mock draft for as long as he likes.



Who fucking asked you? Who the fuck are you? Bullshit! Andy has been great, and you are a fuckwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Pissoff!




How old are you? Are you capable of making a single statement without resorting to obscenity?

"Obscenity is the last resort of the inarticulate....." You get the point.

Excuse me if an out of line ingrate has made me angry. I resorted to profanity to emphasize my displeasure at your unwelcome assault on my friend. You think you have a say in this matter. You don't. Your opinion was not asked for and holds absolutely no weight in this matter. So pardon me if I express myself by saying you can go eat a bag of dicks.
Terrible picks  
Thegratefulhead : 4/7/2018 12:35 pm : link
For the Giants IMO. Not asking for a replacement. It will be the same when the Giants pick. BBI never agrees on that either, why should Andy get free pass? Thanks for doing a tough job Andy.
New blood never hurts anything  
dk in TX : 4/7/2018 12:39 pm : link
You have nothing to fear if you are a competent GM.

I am not interested in pissing contests with "good old boys" or shreeling foul mouths.

Let's make this draft better.

I got errands to run. 🤗
Anyone who thinks that they can do better  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2018 12:57 pm : link
Matt keeps a waiting list for vacancies, get on the list and when you get an assignment your picks will be fodder for BBI critique. Until then, constructive criticism is fine, name calling isn't. I have my issues with who Andy has taken, as I am sure Ravens fans would bitch about my picks so far.
Wow  
Boatie Warrant : 4/7/2018 1:22 pm : link
Its a freaking fantasy draft. You don't like the pick then laydown some constructive criticism on the pick not the picker. Don't like most of the draft then don't read it.
Geez, up until recent posts  
allstarjim : 4/7/2018 2:31 pm : link
I thought people were overreacting to some good-natured ribbing of Andy. Surely you can't be serious in calling for the head of a fake GM in a fake draft? LOL, that's ridiculous!

Seriously, time to re-evaluate your priorities.
Emails have been sent to OAK  
Matt G : 4/7/2018 2:32 pm : link
I think he may be west coast so hopefully he checks soon...
To be completely honest, it does seem  
SirYesSir : 4/7/2018 2:40 pm : link
like since it's a giant board, picking for the giants could maybe be rotated rather than the same person every year, but I don't organize it, and it's not my call. I'm very happy to be a part of it.

And I agree that Andy has done a great job over the years, he does his homework. There's a lot of pressure making the pick for the Giants in this mock. Nobody cares more than a quick snide remark if the Chargers or Titans or Cardinals reach for a player. Andy is going to hear it endlessly from anyone with different opinions, which is probably 90% of the board on each pick. I applaud him for putting up with it.

And again, just like I've railed against people saying "team x would NEVER take that guy" or "team x is DEFINITELY taking a QB" for not allowing for draft surprises, it's even more true that none of us know how a draft will turn out, and won't for several years.

If you don't like Andy's mid-round picks, great. It in no way means he's wrong, and there is zero chance for you to prove he is for a long long time. so with all that, shut up.
RE: Emails have been sent to OAK  
Amtoft : 4/7/2018 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13904134 Matt G said:
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I think he may be west coast so hopefully he checks soon...


My bad sorry... I had a board for my second round pick a Maurice Hurst, James Washington, Nick Chubb,... then a tier down Jessie Bates 4th... So while I am happy to get Jessie Bates here in the 3rd round to miss out on James Washington who I love (and is my favorite WR in the draft) and Nick Chubb who I love going one pick and 5 picks both by San Francisco sucks! James Washington is a stud. People don't like him as much because he looks like a RB playing WR and he is a stud WR make no mistake. Chubb's injury hurt his stock but 4 years ago I thought he was better than Fournette. He started ahead of Sony Michel for a reason. He is a stud and as he continues to feel comfortable on his knee he will be even better.

Oh yeah Bates is good also. Good range and instincts but has tackling issues. I think he is one of the best cover safeties in the draft and will continue to grow. Hopefully his tackling gets a little better.
look no loves ripping Andy's picks more than me...  
Amtoft : 4/7/2018 2:57 pm : link
I mean taking Kellen Winslow when we had Jeremy Shockey! This draft also I don't agree with his picks. I would have gone Nelson, Price, Washington, and Chubb... Man I would love that draft. We each have different opinions on who we should take. You don't know how good he does for 3-5 years. He has done a good job as much as I tease him. So while you don't like the picks don't be a dick! That is my roll.
RE: look no loves ripping Andy's picks more than me...  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13904171 Amtoft said:
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I mean taking Kellen Winslow when we had Jeremy Shockey! This draft also I don't agree with his picks. I would have gone Nelson, Price, Washington, and Chubb... Man I would love that draft. We each have different opinions on who we should take. You don't know how good he does for 3-5 years. He has done a good job as much as I tease him. So while you don't like the picks don't be a dick! That is my roll.


Exactly. I may have kept Darnold as first pick, followed by Daniels, Chubb, and Turay, but that does not mean people have to be a dick about it
Poor Chark  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 3:20 pm : link
it was like he was an unwanted step child. After a few attempts to place him with a new family via Autopick, he's now in with the Pack.

In my opinion, value and need merged rather nicely here. Green Bay is in the market for deep threat wideouts, and Chark is that in a word. He was under utilized in LSU as they are primarily a run first program. With the Packers, he's going to see the ball. Plus, he is finally working with a good QB after a few years of less than talent at LSU.

Was tempted to go in a different direction, but Chark really was the best option at this point in the draft.
RE: Poor Chark  
Mike in NY : 4/7/2018 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13904206 MadPlaid said:
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it was like he was an unwanted step child. After a few attempts to place him with a new family via Autopick, he's now in with the Pack.

In my opinion, value and need merged rather nicely here. Green Bay is in the market for deep threat wideouts, and Chark is that in a word. He was under utilized in LSU as they are primarily a run first program. With the Packers, he's going to see the ball. Plus, he is finally working with a good QB after a few years of less than talent at LSU.

Was tempted to go in a different direction, but Chark really was the best option at this point in the draft.


He was this year's Curtis Samuel!
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/7/2018 3:41 pm : link
Yup, that’s what he is. Good memory
Chiefs  
English Alaister : 4/8/2018 6:07 am : link
Pretty happy with their attempts to add to their front seven snagging Jefferson to replace Derrick Johnson and Settle to add some beef up front.
RE: To be completely honest, it does seem  
MadPlaid : 4/8/2018 10:04 am : link
In comment 13904144 SirYesSir said:
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like since it's a giant board, picking for the giants could maybe be rotated rather than the same person every year, but I don't organize it, and it's not my call. I'm very happy to be a part of it.

And I agree that Andy has done a great job over the years, he does his homework. There's a lot of pressure making the pick for the Giants in this mock. Nobody cares more than a quick snide remark if the Chargers or Titans or Cardinals reach for a player. Andy is going to hear it endlessly from anyone with different opinions, which is probably 90% of the board on each pick. I applaud him for putting up with it.

And again, just like I've railed against people saying "team x would NEVER take that guy" or "team x is DEFINITELY taking a QB" for not allowing for draft surprises, it's even more true that none of us know how a draft will turn out, and won't for several years.

If you don't like Andy's mid-round picks, great. It in no way means he's wrong, and there is zero chance for you to prove he is for a long long time. so with all that, shut up.

Well said.
Oh my god this is so stupid  
NoGainDayne : 4/8/2018 11:02 am : link
first you have the poster coming in and saying "I would have liked to see who the Giants took if the Browns took Darnold so I can see how they rank the QBs"

Now complaints about the drafting. News flash people. The exercise is seeing who is there when they pick. The Giants don't get to keep these players.

Sure, if you want to take your pitchforks out for asshats, not sure why you care, but whatever. Some of their motives could be questioned. But when that kind of behavior seeps into calling for a mock draft GMs head, insanity. All the GMs do this for fun but it also provides a benefit to the community. There should be some respect paid to both of those motivations, otherwise, what do we have? A Youtube message board?
Let me have it boys! I absolutely do not care in the slightest  
Andy in Halifax : 4/8/2018 11:19 am : link
I even like it, so no worries. jlukes ripped me big time when I picked demarco Murray. That wasn't such a bad pick in hindsight. I was roasted for taking Travis Frederick, great pick. Many hated juju smith schuster last year, Malik Jackson before that, Iupati, etc. It happens every year, I am cool with it. I've also been praised for picks that sucked, ripped for picks that did indeed suck and so on. All good, all part of the fun since 2004 (for me).

This year's crop of haters need to brush up their game though, nobody rips me with as much flair and pizazz as Amtoft. BBB comes close with his subtlety and finess yet sharp bite.

At one point I made a roster with my drafted players and it was pretty good. My OL, DL and linebackers were legit elite units. RB's were good despite a couple misses. I had decent WR's but no stars. I don't draft CBs well at all it seems and I struggle in round 2, I may have to re-assess how I evaluate in that range.

Giants  
BleedBlue : 4/8/2018 1:04 pm : link
Darnold
Price
S Griffin
N Chubb

If it falls like our mock, those are the 4 I'd take
I have some concerns about Uchenna Nwosu drive  
Boatie Warrant : 4/8/2018 2:26 pm : link
But didnt want to pass on his talent. I think he would fit right in on the Texans Agressive Defense
Micah Kizer is a tackling machine  
Rick in Dallas : 4/8/2018 3:35 pm : link
And penciled in to replace Anthony Hutchins who left via free agency
RE: Micah Kizer is a tackling machine  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13904996 Rick in Dallas said:
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And penciled in to replace Anthony Hutchins who left via free agency


Makes sense. He was on my short list
RE: RE: Micah Kizer is a tackling machine  
YAJ2112 : 4/8/2018 4:46 pm : link
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And penciled in to replace Anthony Hutchins who left via free agency



Makes sense. He was on my short list


Baltimore is up. Lions go with a TE after passing on Gesicki earlier.
RE: Let me have it boys! I absolutely do not care in the slightest  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/8/2018 4:59 pm : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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I even like it, so no worries....This year's crop of haters need to brush up their game though, nobody rips me with as much flair and pizzazz as Amtoft. BBB comes close with his subtlety and finesse yet sharp bite.
I am deeply honored, Andy. I'll try to live up to Amtoft's high standards when the Giants' picks are complete.

For now, thank you for providing your devoted critics with ample material this year. I'm sure there is some method to your madness. Perhaps the medical staff can use some of Orlando Brown's adipose tissue to construct a prosthetic hand for Shaquem Griffin.
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2018 5:12 pm : link
Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option
RE: Ravens pick is in  
NoGainDayne : 4/8/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13905083 Mike in NY said:
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option


Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? I’m surprised you still have a mock job
RE: RE: Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/8/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13905125 NoGainDayne said:
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option



Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? I’m surprised you still have a mock job


I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number
Alot of interesting prospect for the Titans in the 3rd round  
NYG27 : 4/9/2018 9:45 am : link
Although I love the upside for DE Duke Ejiofor. He was too good to pass up.
Panthers..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/9/2018 9:52 am : link
were very close to picking Ejiofor, and in real life, he may be their pick in the 3rd round - as they often will take a guy from one of the local schools.

Good selection there.
RE: RE: RE: Ravens pick is in  
NoGainDayne : 4/9/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13905172 Mike in NY said:
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option



Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? I’m surprised you still have a mock job



I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number


Lol I am not sure if you know I was joking?
NGD  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 10:57 am : link
I got it. Considering the bull that was being pulled earlier in this thread, your post had sarcasm written all over it.

Welcome to the Good Old Boys and Shreeling Foul Mouths Club.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13906039 NoGainDayne said:
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Ozzie Newsome loves to select players from his alma mater, University of Alabama. Being that this is his final draft I had to get at least one Crimson Tide player. Brent Urban only signed for one year so figured I would add a longer term option



Pshhh. Are you suggesting you know Ozzie Newsomes thinking? How many picks have you predicted of the Ravens? I’m surprised you still have a mock job



I think I have done well. I did draft Urban and I accurately predicted Brandon Williams down to pick number



Lol I am not sure if you know I was joking?


Having fun with you too!
Ok good  
NoGainDayne : 4/9/2018 11:13 am : link
the mock draft had enough drama as it was yesterday
Pittsburgh has until 12:37 PM  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 12:16 pm : link
Top guy on list is a QB, but since they already took one, I think it makes more sense to move on to second guy on list - Marcus Allen, FS, State Penn
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 12:18 pm : link
you talked them into it. Allen it is.
Pick is in  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/9/2018 12:19 pm : link
Marcus Allen FS Penn State. Pittsburg basically got rid of their entire secondary this off season. I was tempted to go with Tony Brown from Bama, but the Bama players scare me. Some work out, but some are just overrated because of the coaching they come from and the players that surround them.
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13906266 MadPlaid said:
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you talked them into it. Allen it is.


I have a knack for getting people to show up by threatening the autopick result
Kerryon Johnson  
Jay in Toronto : 4/9/2018 12:23 pm : link
Didn't he star in that 'blue' version of that great Brit comedy movie series???
RE: Pick is in  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13906269 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Marcus Allen FS Penn State. Pittsburg basically got rid of their entire secondary this off season. I was tempted to go with Tony Brown from Bama, but the Bama players scare me. Some work out, but some are just overrated because of the coaching they come from and the players that surround them.


Marcus Allen is a little limited in his coverage skills but man can he play down hill and physical football. Also a great leader and locker room guy. He will make a day one impact on special teams. I could see him playing a hybrid safety/lb role in the NFL.
Happy to hopefully pick  
Kevin in CT : 4/9/2018 12:56 pm : link
Blake Bortles replacement. This is a guy who could go earlier in the draft. Happy he was here for us. I contemplated Mike White from WKU as well but went with a guy who I think will have a shot to be a starter in this league.
RE: Happy to hopefully pick  
jlukes : 4/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13906362 Kevin in CT said:
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Blake Bortles replacement. This is a guy who could go earlier in the draft. Happy he was here for us. I contemplated Mike White from WKU as well but went with a guy who I think will have a shot to be a starter in this league.


Damn you
RE: RE: Happy to hopefully pick  
Kevin in CT : 4/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
In comment 13906419 jlukes said:
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Blake Bortles replacement. This is a guy who could go earlier in the draft. Happy he was here for us. I contemplated Mike White from WKU as well but went with a guy who I think will have a shot to be a starter in this league.



Damn you


I had a feeling that you might have wanted him for the Broncos. Hopefully Mike White is still there for you!
Arizona needs a qb  
DCPollaro : 4/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
Debating Falk and White now
I like Sweat a lot  
Lionhart28 : 4/9/2018 2:29 pm : link
I gave him serious thought at the end of round 2.
Sweat is not really  
allstarjim : 4/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
A need pick for the Vikings but I felt there was too much value to pass up at the end of round 3 and he is a high upside pass rusher.
In and out of meetings  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 3:13 pm : link
Torrag is usually pretty good at sending Matt a list
RE: Sweat is not really  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13906652 allstarjim said:
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A need pick for the Vikings but I felt there was too much value to pass up at the end of round 3 and he is a high upside pass rusher.


Had I gone a different direction in Round 1 and ignored edge rusher in Round 2 I probably would have drafted Sweat at 83. Not sure which I like more - Ridley/???/Sweat or Landry/Miller/Hand
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
Is it worth it for me to draft a call out thread? You are correct, Torrag is usually very busy and gives Matt a list when he can't make it in himself. If I draft a thread, I think it would only end up an exercise in hot air mularky.
RE: Mike  
Mike in NY : 4/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13906727 MadPlaid said:
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Is it worth it for me to draft a call out thread? You are correct, Torrag is usually very busy and gives Matt a list when he can't make it in himself. If I draft a thread, I think it would only end up an exercise in hot air mularky.


Perhaps you can just e-mail Matt and see. I would but I have to enter another meeting
I just e-mailed Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 3:28 pm : link
Talk to you later
Matt shared with me an old list Torrag gave him  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
Everyone on it has been selected but one. Considering the player list is old, Matt asked that I wait until New England's time is up before posting the pick. This is just to give Torrag an opportunity to change his mind on who to select.
Sorry for the delay  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
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Well his time his up  
jlukes : 4/9/2018 4:10 pm : link
time to make the pick for him
Pick is in.  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 4:14 pm : link
Luke Falk was Torrag's last available player from the list he provided to Matt. Sorry, jlukes. Looks like Denver is going to have to trade for a QB prospect.
Buffalo (superspynyg) is on the clock until 9:13am tomorrow  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
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Cant force a QB pick at this point  
jlukes : 4/9/2018 4:18 pm : link
especially when I have a few players ranked much higher than the remaining QBs
RE: Cant force a QB pick at this point  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13906835 jlukes said:
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especially when I have a few players ranked much higher than the remaining QBs

Yup. Kind of get the feeling a real GM must encounter when stuck in this kind of conundrum.
Deano is up with the Cards  
jlukes : 4/9/2018 4:33 pm : link
would be great to close out the 3rd round tonight
I am hoping Nyheim Hines  
Boatie Warrant : 4/9/2018 6:14 pm : link
turns into a dave meggett type back.(on the field, not off). The guy you look to on 3rd down.
BW  
MadPlaid : 4/9/2018 6:53 pm : link
Doesn’t it suck that you have to make that distinction about Meggett? He was my favorite Giant for a long time. Then finding out he is a scumbag rapist was heartbreaking.
RE: BW  
Boatie Warrant : 4/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13907046 MadPlaid said:
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Doesn’t it suck that you have to make that distinction about Meggett? He was my favorite Giant for a long time. Then finding out he is a scumbag rapist was heartbreaking.


Yeah it sucks. I loved the way he played the game. Super reliable on the field.
Sorry for the delay... Was offline last night...  
Matt G : 4/10/2018 6:50 am : link
Will pick when I get to office and post RD4
Round 4 is started  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 9:43 am : link
Hopefully today goes more quickly than yesterday.

I chose Josey Jewell here because he's a play maker who manages to almost always be in the right place at the right time. I kept reading glowing evaluations about his ability to recognize plays and placing himself in the best possible position to make the tackle or turnover. Some of the gifs on-line are crazy. Picking off deflections in the backfield, being in the right place in zone coverage to intercept a rushed pass or in the gif I posted, where he split two OL to blow up a screen pass. Reminded me of a play in the 2007 playoffs against these here Packers. I'm certain they recall it too. Ha!

Green Bay needs play makers on the D in a big way. ILB wasn't necessarily a need position, but the defense really is in short supply on guys like Jewell who can make things happen. I think for a someone at the top of the 4th Round, this was a good pick-up.
Post your first 3 rounds and give an anaylsys  
superspynyg : 4/10/2018 9:49 am : link
Rd 1 S Derwin James FSU
Rd 1 QB Lamar Jackson Lou
Rd 2 OG Braden Smith Aub
Rd 2 WR E St Brown ND
Rd 3 RB Rashaad Penny SDSU
Rd 3 CB Duke Dawson FLA

I am very happy. Going into this draft I listed QB,WR,OL and CB as needs

I got a huge playmaking S. A good RG who will start day 1, I am putting faith in Jackson but he will not play this year unless we are tanking. St Brown is a big wr who will add to a the talents of Benjamin and Zay Jones. CB depth was a concern. I added a guy who could be a nice slot this year. Penny as a backup to McCoy is great. McCoy is getting up in years. Penny could be his replacement in a year or two,
I think Josey Jewell is a great pick there.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 9:54 am : link
I had my eyes on him big time for my pick. He's a very good football player.
I think at this point, allstarjim is kicking everyone's ass  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 9:57 am : link
No idea how Josh Jackson made it that far, then follows it up with Ragnow and Sweat. He's killing it for Minnesota.
RE: I think Josey Jewell is a great pick there.  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 10:01 am : link
In comment 13907529 Andy in Halifax said:
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I had my eyes on him big time for my pick. He's a very good football player.

Thank you, Andy. Everything I read about him made me want him. Even though I had other guys I liked and were probably more of a need, I couldn't pass him up. I just knew Jewell was going to get snatched up if I didn't take him. I guess he was one of those guys GM's identify as a want, and they just take him; not sweating the needs of other positions.

By the way, I had my eye on Shaquem Griffin. I was hoping he would fall to my pick in the 3rd Round. He's going to be something special. One hand or not. Good pick up.
superspynyg  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 10:04 am : link
I really like your pick of Dawson. I was going to have a hard time picking between him and Jewell if they were both their at the top of the 4th round.
their = there  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 10:05 am : link
dang grammar fail
Well Damn  
Boatie Warrant : 4/10/2018 10:06 am : link
I was hoping Jewell would make it to me in the 4th. I almost picked him at # 98 but figured the RB was more of a need. Oh well, nice pick
RE: superspynyg  
superspynyg : 4/10/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 13907556 MadPlaid said:
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I really like your pick of Dawson. I was going to have a hard time picking between him and Jewell if they were both their at the top of the 4th round.


thanks.
Dang Madplaid  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 10:53 am : link
I really like Jewell too, poor 40 but ridiculous 3-cone. Very quick and instinctive. Definitely one of those guys who is just a great football player and not a height/weight/speed guy. You want to watch a fun showdown, watch the Penn State-Iowa game. He is on Saquon all night, Saquon probably wins the matchup overall but they have some awesome head-to-heads and Jewell makes some great plays on him. Great fit for GB.
RE: Dang Madplaid  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 13907676 Lionhart28 said:
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I really like Jewell too, poor 40 but ridiculous 3-cone. Very quick and instinctive. Definitely one of those guys who is just a great football player and not a height/weight/speed guy. You want to watch a fun showdown, watch the Penn State-Iowa game. He is on Saquon all night, Saquon probably wins the matchup overall but they have some awesome head-to-heads and Jewell makes some great plays on him. Great fit for GB.

Yeah, Saquon vs. Josey was impressive. I saw one gif where Barkley juked Jewell out of his socks. Not a good look on him. But then I saw another one where Jewell caught Barkley after a short pass, shy of the first down. Nice open field tackle on his own. Very happy to have made this selection.
Updated  
Matt G : 4/10/2018 11:10 am : link

Round 3
65. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Cle) - Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State
66. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) – Shaquem Griffin, OLB, Central Florida
67. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Geron Christian, OT, Louisville
68. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh
69. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn
70. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Chi) - Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
71. Denver (jlukes) - Kemoko Turay, OLB, Rutgers
72. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Dante Pettis, WR, Washington
73. Miami (Optimus-NY) - B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State
74. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - James Washington WR Oklahoma State
75. Oakland (Amtoft) - Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest
76. Green Bay (MadPlaid) - D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
77. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
78. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Was) – Tim Settle, DT, Virginia Tech
79. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Darius Leonard, ILB, South Carolina State
80. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Sea) – Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, USC
81. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia
82. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
83. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Da'Shawn Hand, DE, Alabama
84. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Armani Watts, FS, Texas A&M
85. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)(from Buf) - Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
86. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Deon Cain, WR, Clemson
87. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) - Mason Cole, C, Michigan
88. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State
89. Tennessee (NYG27) - Duke Ejiofor, DE, Wake Forest
90. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia
91. New Orleans (Saos1n) - Simmie Cobbs, WR, Indiana
92. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) - Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State
93. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - Kyle Lauletta, QB, Richmond
94. Minnesota (Allstarjim) - Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State
95. New England (Torrag) - Luke Falk, QB, Washington State
96. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Phi) - Duke Dawson, CB, Florida
97. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) - Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky
98. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (compensatory) - Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State
99. Denver (jlukes) (compensatory) - MJ Stewart, CB, North Carolina
100. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory) - Ade Aruna, DE, Tulane

Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - On the clock
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
106. Denver (jlukes)
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC)
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.)
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF)
110. Oakland (Amtoft)
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia)
112. Cincinnati (Matt G)
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.)
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari)
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
117. Detroit (YAJ2112)
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
120. Seattle (sjnyfan)
121. Buffalo (superspynyg)
122. Kansas City (English Alaister)
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car)
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR)
125. Tennessee (NYG27)
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
127. New Orleans (Saos1n)
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit)
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
Ravens draft so far  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 11:10 am : link
Round 1 - Harold Landry, EDGE, Boston College
Round 2 - Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis
Round 3 - Da'shawn Hand, 5T, Alabama

Overall I like how I have done. Still have names on my short list for the third round pick still on the board
Peeking ahead to the Giants' fourth-round pick (from TB)...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2018 11:12 am : link
...there still seems to be pretty good value at several positions of need: CB, DL and WR. Interior OL could be more challenging. Passing on Price and Daniels in favor of Orlando Brown was defensible on the basis of upside, but the opportunities for upgrades at C/G on Day 3 look pretty limited.
The value at CB just got a bit less compelling...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2018 11:44 am : link
...with the auto-pick of Tony Brown for Tampa Bay in the Giants' original fourth-round slot. The Maras might prefer Ike Yiadom anyway, because BC.
Tony Brown is interesting  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 11:57 am : link
He nailed the combine and looked great in run support and special teams. So it would seem his floor is pretty high. Wit that athletic ability his ceiling is pretty high as well, though perhaps not overly likely to get there. Not a bad option for an autopick.
This draft class seems unusually strong in between picks 100-150  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2018 12:06 pm : link
a lot of good players still on the board. For the upcoming NYG pick Chad Thomas, Genard Avery, and RJ Mcintosh would go a long way to further solidifying the front 7. Dorance Armstrong too. I'd be surprised if those guys don't all get picked in the first 3 rounds in a couple weeks. DB is probably the most glaring need but value doesn't really match up great. Maybe Gaulden or Edmunds.
RE: I think at this point, allstarjim is kicking everyone's ass  
allstarjim : 4/10/2018 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13907535 Andy in Halifax said:
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No idea how Josh Jackson made it that far, then follows it up with Ragnow and Sweat. He's killing it for Minnesota.


Thanks, feeling like this is near a best case scenario for Minnesota seeing as they are picking near the end of every round.
Holton Hill is a little bit of a reach here  
Boatie Warrant : 4/10/2018 12:51 pm : link
But Houston doesn't pick again until #177 and I didn't think he would last. I like his size, speed and tackling. A big corner who can tackle and run fast are hard to find. And if he doesn't transition well to corner then he can be tried at safety. Some off field concerns but with this veteran defense I think he will be OK.
RE: Holton Hill is a little bit of a reach here  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13907892 Boatie Warrant said:
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But Houston doesn't pick again until #177 and I didn't think he would last. I like his size, speed and tackling. A big corner who can tackle and run fast are hard to find. And if he doesn't transition well to corner then he can be tried at safety. Some off field concerns but with this veteran defense I think he will be OK.


Another guy who is high on my list, would have been my 3rd rounder if not for the off the field issues. I probably wouldnt have taken him until the fifth, but quite a physical talent.
Indy's pick is in, Chicago (BigBlueHoya) is up  
Go Terps : 4/10/2018 1:05 pm : link
Rundown of Indy so far:

#6 - DE Bradley Chubb
#36 - RB Sony Michel (Sy'56 score = 81)
#37 - WR DJ Moore (80)
#49 - OG/C - Martinas Rankin (82)
#67 - OT Geron Christian (76)
#104 - OG/C - Skyler Phillips (77)

Had to give Reich something to work with on the offensive line. Getting three versatile guys is a start.
Thrilled to land Hamilton here  
jlukes : 4/10/2018 1:16 pm : link
Love this kid and hope the Giants get him in round 3 in the real draft
Subtotal for the Green Bay Packers  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 1:22 pm : link
#14: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
#45: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
#76: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
#101: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa

I was looking to find players to improve the Pack's D, and I believe I have got them. However, I think I could have done better. I think I reached with Alexander when I probably would have been better served to have taken Harold Landry, OLB. I was torn between these two, and I went with the DB because I wasn't confident I would find one as good later. As it turned out, one was their in Isaiah Oliver. I think Landry was the better value there in the first round. I panicked and took the need guy instead. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to have selected Hubbard in the second, but I think total value, Landry/Oliver is better than Alexander/Hubbard.

My next two picks I think made up for my earlier SNAFU. Both were good picks and equal to the value for when I selected them. We can't always get it right, but it sure is fun trying.
Hate Andy's Picks  
Thegratefulhead : 4/10/2018 1:57 pm : link
I hate his picks this year, that doesn't mean he is not right. I picked up Ju Ju last year in my fantasy league because of what he said about him, Ju Ju was completely off my radar. I won my league, Ju Ju was a steal, so props to you, you helped buy me an Xbox One X. Still hate your picks this year :)
RE: Subtotal for the Green Bay Packers  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13907946 MadPlaid said:
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#14: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
#45: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
#76: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU
#101: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa

I was looking to find players to improve the Pack's D, and I believe I have got them. However, I think I could have done better. I think I reached with Alexander when I probably would have been better served to have taken Harold Landry, OLB. I was torn between these two, and I went with the DB because I wasn't confident I would find one as good later. As it turned out, one was their in Isaiah Oliver. I think Landry was the better value there in the first round. I panicked and took the need guy instead. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to have selected Hubbard in the second, but I think total value, Landry/Oliver is better than Alexander/Hubbard.

My next two picks I think made up for my earlier SNAFU. Both were good picks and equal to the value for when I selected them. We can't always get it right, but it sure is fun trying.


Thank you for leaving me Harold Landry at 16
lol, that's awesome.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 1:59 pm : link
Juju was pretty good pick, I knew I was on to something when Amtoft praised it.

Y'all won't like my next pick. But he won't be a UDFA like the guy jlukes just picked.
I wonder what Wisconsin player Jon will take for the Jets  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 2:01 pm : link
?
If Jon is getting near the end of his limit all we have to do  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:03 pm : link
is whisper "Wisco sucks". He'll come charging in to make his pick.

My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.
You are welcome  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 2:04 pm : link
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RE: lol, that's awesome.  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13907973 Andy in Halifax said:
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Juju was pretty good pick, I knew I was on to something when Amtoft praised it.

Y'all won't like my next pick. But he won't be a UDFA like the guy jlukes just picked.


You must be joking if you think Hamilton is going to be a UDFA. You may want to re-read SY's breakdown...
I was playfully joking, yes.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:06 pm : link
But I actually don't think that guy is very good though.
RE: If Jon is getting near the end of his limit all we have to do  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13907980 Andy in Halifax said:
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is whisper "Wisco sucks". He'll come charging in to make his pick.

My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.


Travis Frederick versus Brian Schwenke! :)
But I wouldn't be the only person to think he's going undrafted  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:07 pm : link
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"In this job you deal with some really good guys and some not so good guys. He's one of the best. I think he goes undrafted, but I also think football is going to be a very small part of what he accomplishes in his life." -- AFC team regional scout
Houston so far  
Boatie Warrant : 4/10/2018 2:09 pm : link
Rd 3 #68 – OT – Brian O’Neill – Pittsburg
Rd 3 #80 – OLB – Uchenna Nwosu – USC
Rd 3 #98 – Nyheim Hines – RB – NC State
Rd 4 #103 – Holton Hill – CB – Texas

With not having a pick until the third round I believe this is a good haul of players in positions of need. O’Neill will fill a major hole on Houston’s O-line at RT. When Watson comes back he is going to need the protection. Nwosu adds to an already superior pass rushing Defense. Hines gives Houston a 3rd down back and possible return guy. I actually think this was a bigger need for Houston than is mentioned. Houston ranked 22nd in the league in 2017 on 3rd down conversion percentage with a 36% rate. Hill will compete for a starting position in Houston’s backfield. He has the skills they just have to hope he can get his head straight.
RE: But I wouldn't be the only person to think he's going undrafted  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13907989 Andy in Halifax said:
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"In this job you deal with some really good guys and some not so good guys. He's one of the best. I think he goes undrafted, but I also think football is going to be a very small part of what he accomplishes in his life." -- AFC team regional scout



Fair enough. I've read more reports that say he is the best route runner in the draft than those that say he won't get drafted. He's a probably a slightly below average athlete for the position but the dude can play ball. He's made some very good defensive backs look silly with is route running savvy.
RE: Houston so far  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13907994 Boatie Warrant said:
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Rd 3 #68 – OT – Brian O’Neill – Pittsburg
Rd 3 #80 – OLB – Uchenna Nwosu – USC
Rd 3 #98 – Nyheim Hines – RB – NC State
Rd 4 #103 – Holton Hill – CB – Texas

With not having a pick until the third round I believe this is a good haul of players in positions of need. O’Neill will fill a major hole on Houston’s O-line at RT. When Watson comes back he is going to need the protection. Nwosu adds to an already superior pass rushing Defense. Hines gives Houston a 3rd down back and possible return guy. I actually think this was a bigger need for Houston than is mentioned. Houston ranked 22nd in the league in 2017 on 3rd down conversion percentage with a 36% rate. Hill will compete for a starting position in Houston’s backfield. He has the skills they just have to hope he can get his head straight.


That's an impressive haul considering your lack of premium picks. Probably not a lot of instant starters, but definitely a lot of long-term talent. O'Neil is going to need to add a TON of strength to compete at RT. Some great special teams additions though too.
RE: If Jon is getting near the end of his limit all we have to do  
Jon in NYC : 4/10/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13907980 Andy in Halifax said:
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is whisper "Wisco sucks". He'll come charging in to make his pick.

My favorite BBI mock draft feud was he and Amtoft. It was hilarious.


THE BAT SIGNAL WAS RAISED
RE: I was playfully joking, yes.  
jlukes : 4/10/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13907986 Andy in Halifax said:
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But I actually don't think that guy is very good though.


Says the guy who drafted someone with one hand at the top of the 3rd round
RE: RE: I was playfully joking, yes.  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13908024 jlukes said:
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In comment 13907986 Andy in Halifax said:


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But I actually don't think that guy is very good though.



Says the guy who drafted someone with one hand at the top of the 3rd round


And a second rounder with enough extra fat to create an artifical hand for our 3rd roudner and still have some left over
^^^  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:32 pm : link
all part of the plan!
I love to make picks you all hate so this will please me greatly  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:34 pm : link
Strike 1: this player is loved by Huddle Report Boylhart, I believe he actually has a first round grade on him (lol)
Strike 2: PFF has this guy in their top 64 (i.e. top 2 rounds)
Strike 3: Does not appear (I don't think) on BBI favorite Sy'56 lists

So that's the trifecta for hate I would imagine. I think Boylhart is on crack again with a 1st round grade but I do think this guy is a 3rd-4th round guy and could be a good player.

Looking for a gif, pick will be up momentarily.
I am ready with my pick shortly after  
jlukes : 4/10/2018 2:36 pm : link
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I have two other guys I like  
Andy in Halifax : 4/10/2018 2:41 pm : link
I know one will go very quickly (maybe even to jlukes) but the other guy has a chance. Hopefully I get lucky and he's still there in 5.
Pick is in  
jlukes : 4/10/2018 2:54 pm : link
loved his workout at the combine. So fluid and technically sound. Can really blossom once he gets a year or two of NFL strength and conditioning and coaching under his belt
Ateman's foot might still be a concern.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2018 3:38 pm : link
Surgery cost him the whole 2016 season. Then again, considering the Giants' medical history at WR, maybe it makes sense to draft receivers who are already devalued by lower leg injuries.

I see the Marshall comparison. Similar college careers too. By most accounts, Marshall was more athletic and polished.
I like the pick, Andy!  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 3:44 pm : link
As long as the foot checks out. He's got great ball skills and body control. Plays faster than his time.
Amtoft  
MadPlaid : 4/10/2018 3:55 pm : link
I was wondering how far Chukwuma Okorafor was going to fall before he got picked up. I seriously considered him at the top of this round, but Sy's write up scared me off.
Ateman = Ramses Barden  
jlukes : 4/10/2018 4:01 pm : link
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RE: Ateman = Ramses Barden  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/10/2018 4:04 pm : link
jlukes said:
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Then he's a bargain in the fourth round! Barden cost us a three. ;o)
Los Angeles Rams have just over 20 minutes left  
Mike in NY : 4/10/2018 5:00 pm : link
Since, in the past, they have sent Matt a list (and Matt is the following pick with Cincy) no need to autopick
RE: I think at this point, allstarjim is kicking everyone's ass  
allstarjim : 4/10/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13907535 Andy in Halifax said:
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No idea how Josh Jackson made it that far, then follows it up with Ragnow and Sweat. He's killing it for Minnesota.


Thanks, feeling like this is near a best case scenario for Minnesota seeing as they are picking near the end of every round.
RE: Amtoft  
Amtoft : 4/10/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13908180 MadPlaid said:
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I was wondering how far Chukwuma Okorafor was going to fall before he got picked up. I seriously considered him at the top of this round, but Sy's write up scared me off.


Is that why he fell so far? I didn't know Sy didn't like him... Great news for me. He is still a little raw but great upside and with his size and length he has a chance to be really good.
God damnit  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 6:30 pm : link
I was all set to take Jewell or Baker.
RE: God damnit  
Amtoft : 4/10/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13908371 Lionhart28 said:
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I was all set to take Jewell or Baker.


I love Jewell. Great value there. A player I would love the Giants to draft in the 3rd.
RE: RE: God damnit  
Lionhart28 : 4/10/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13908384 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13908371 Lionhart28 said:


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I was all set to take Jewell or Baker.



I love Jewell. Great value there. A player I would love the Giants to draft in the 3rd.


Absolutely. A guy Reese never would have taken, not tall enough, not fast enough. Just a good, tough, football player.
Count me in on Jewell, it's eery how similar his combine w/ Borland  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2018 10:00 pm : link
he is going to be a solid ILB. I do also like Griffin and G. Avery though. All 3 jump off the screen.
Redskin pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/11/2018 8:51 am : link
and Lionheart is on the clock for the Browns


Love Teller as a physical guard, would be thrilled to see him in blue
Checking in for 4th round Cowboys picks  
Rick in Dallas : 4/11/2018 9:11 am : link
Player I almost drafted in 3rd round still available. This is the area where Cowboys select players invited for top 30 visits and private workouts.
I will be in and out today  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 9:14 am : link
Still have 3 players from my Round 3 short list still on the board
SirYesSir  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 9:40 am : link
Teller was an OL I had my eye on. Was hoping he'd still be there for my second 4th round pick. Those gifs are awesome. The titles at the bottom are hilarious.
Updated...  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 9:42 am : link

Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama – auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - On the clock
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari)
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
117. Detroit (YAJ2112)
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
120. Seattle (sjnyfan)
121. Buffalo (superspynyg)
122. Kansas City (English Alaister)
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car)
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR)
125. Tennessee (NYG27)
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne)
127. New Orleans (Saos1n)
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit)
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT)
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
Where we are in the mock  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 9:54 am : link
It will be interesting to see if anybody has the testicular fortitude to select a Punter
RE: Where we are in the mock  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 10:12 am : link
In comment 13909093 Mike in NY said:
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It will be interesting to see if anybody has the testicular fortitude to select a Punter

Yeah, or suffer the consequences of an Autopicked punter.
I think we will go Tre'Quan Smith here  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 10:30 am : link
If CLE no shows...
RE: I think we will go Tre'Quan Smith here  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13909158 Matt G said:
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If CLE no shows...


Matt, you should know better... ;)
Glad you made it ;)  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 10:41 am : link
Browns draft through 4 rounds...  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2018 10:43 am : link
1.1 - Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
1.4 - Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
2.33 - Taven Bryan, DL, Florida
2.35 - Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon
2.64 - Obo Okoronkwo, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
4.114 - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane


I, unlike many, really like Baker Mayfield as a player. I don't see any similarities to Johnny Manziel aside from his "swagger". He is very accurate, tough, athletic and a good leader on the field. We also added the best player in the draft in playmaker Saquon Barkley who is going to give us a lot of flexibility on offense. Crosby is a great athlete with good power who we hope can step in day 1 to replace Joe Thomas at LT. Taven Bryan is a little raw but an outstanding athlete. We intend to move him around the front to give Gregg Williams some real flexibility. Okoronkwo is a one-trick pony edge rusher right now, but he's really good at it. With his size, he could project to DE or stand up OLB, we'll figure that out as we go but we needed to add to the pass rush. Lastly, Nickerson is a little slight of frame but a tremendous athlete. He's fast, physical and a ball hawk. He'll be a great fit for the press coverage we'll want to run with a lot of our pressure packages.
Damn you Lionhart  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 10:47 am : link
I thought with his injuries and size questions, Nickerson would fly under the radar and I could nab him much later. I think he has the skills to be an effective nickel CB in the NFL. With the way offensive schemes are these days a good nickel CB is important.
I really wanted Josh Jackson at the top of round 2  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2018 10:50 am : link
But alas, he didn't last that long. Cleveland's corner depth chart is brutal.
I have CHI pick, but will give him another few mins  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 10:51 am : link
...
Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 10:52 am : link
Thank you for everything you are doing to help keep this draft moving. I know it has not been easy with your busy work schedule. Your efforts are really appreciated.
Thanks for all the help  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 10:53 am : link
I have an 11am mtg so will be off for a bit...
Thanks, Matt.  
bigbluehoya : 4/11/2018 10:54 am : link
Sorry for the double post, must have been typing when you pulled the trigger. At least we both picked the same guy haha.
RE: SirYesSir  
SirYesSir : 4/11/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13909079 MadPlaid said:
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Teller was an OL I had my eye on. Was hoping he'd still be there for my second 4th round pick. Those gifs are awesome. The titles at the bottom are hilarious.



He's scheduled by many as a 4th rounder, but to me he's better than that so I wanted to grab him now. After the first couple rounds I don't think anyone can really predict how high players will go, so if you like somebody you gotta grab 'em
Tavarius Moore  
Rick in Dallas : 4/11/2018 11:45 am : link
Big time riser in this draft ran a 4.32 forty and a 6.5 three cone at his college day. Was not invited to combine. Was defensive MVP of East West game.
Cowboys had him in for a private workout plus the 30 national visit. He is on the radar of multiple teams.
I like RJ McIntosh  
SirYesSir : 4/11/2018 11:48 am : link
- think he'd be an interesting mid-round guy for the giants to develop as a 3-4 end type. nimble for his size
Detroit's pick is due in under an hour  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 12:44 pm : link
I have narrowed down my list to the top two players so I will likely be able to pick fairly quickly after I get on the clock (assuming I am not in a meeting).
Surprised that Ian Thomas was available  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 1:38 pm : link
He was on my short list in Round 3. Ravens need a TE and he represents tremendous value at this point
Seahawks pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/11/2018 2:09 pm : link
Nice to be part of the draft again. That's a helluva gap between picks.
Sorry for the delay guys  
superspynyg : 4/11/2018 3:48 pm : link
I was taking a test and could not focus on my phone.

Alex Capps is now a Bill!!
RE: Sorry for the delay guys  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13909702 superspynyg said:
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I was taking a test and could not focus on my phone.

Alex Capps is now a Bill!!


BBI Mock Draft is more important than a test! In all seriousness, nice pick with Cappa. When I mentioned that there were 3 names from my Round 3 list, one was Thomas, another was Cappa, and the third player is still on the board
RE: Sorry for the delay guys  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13909702 superspynyg said:
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I was taking a test and could not focus on my phone.

Alex Capps is now a Bill!!

A test!? Likely story.

No worries. Hope you aced it. Like you just did with Cappa. I was really hoping he’d make it to my 2nd 4th round pick.
KC and MIA emailed  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 4:32 pm : link
Both several hours ahead of us though... KC had checked in around 2pm
RE: KC and MIA emailed  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13909771 Matt G said:
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Both several hours ahead of us though... KC had checked in around 2pm


Both may be sleeping by now!
Can we give KC the punter then?  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 4:47 pm : link
That will teach him to sleep on the job!!
RE: Can we give KC the punter then?  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13909812 MadPlaid said:
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That will teach him to sleep on the job!!


KC and Miami both sent lists to Matt. No punter for them (unless he tops their lists)!
Aaah maaan!!!  
MadPlaid : 4/11/2018 4:53 pm : link
I never get what I want!
In all fairness  
Lionhart28 : 4/11/2018 4:55 pm : link
He's a really good punter.
RE: In all fairness  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13909827 Lionhart28 said:
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He's a really good punter.


That is like saying someone is a really skinny sumo wrestler
Sorry, clarification  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 5:13 pm : link
They didn't send lists... I just emailed them letting them know they were on the clock...
Colquitt still going strong in KC  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2018 5:29 pm : link
So we can probably bypass Dickson
Yup... Tentatively let's go edmunds  
Matt G : 4/11/2018 6:31 pm : link
But if KC gets a pick in before MIA, he can make the switch
I'm here for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/11/2018 8:59 pm : link
Pick upcoming
Pick made  
Optimus-NY : 4/11/2018 9:16 pm : link
Jaylen Samuels it is for the Fish
Desmond Harrison is an intriguing player  
Lionhart28 : 4/12/2018 9:30 am : link
Got all the measurables, great pick in the 4th.
Updated...  
Matt G : 4/12/2018 10:09 am : link

Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama – auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari) - RJ McIntosh, DT, Miami
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Tavarius Moore, S, Southern Mississippi
117. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama
120. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida
121. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State
122. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Breeland Speaks, DE, Mississippi
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car) - Jaylen Samuels, RB, North Carolina State
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR) - Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford
125. Tennessee (NYG27) - Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
127. New Orleans (Saos1n) - PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit) - Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - On the clock
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min)
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.)
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory)
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp)
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory)
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)

Round 5
138. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle)
139. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax)
140. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
141. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Hou)
142. Denver (jlukes)
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NYJ)
144. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
145. Chicago (bigbluehoya)
146. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Oak)
147. New Orleans (Saos1n) (from Mia)
148. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) (from SF)
149. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
150. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.)
151. Cincinnati (Matt G)
152. Arizona (DCPollaro)
153. Detroit (YAJ2112)
154. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
155. L.A. Chargers (armstead98)
156. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Phi, Sea)
157. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Dal)
158. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf)
159. New England (Torrag) (from Cle, KC)
160. Denver (jlukes) (from LAR)
161. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
162. Tennessee (NYG27)
163. Denver (jlukes) (from Atl)
164. New Orleans (Saos1n)
165. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
166. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Jax)
167. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
168. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from N.E.)
169. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
170. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
171. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
172. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
173. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
174. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
Jesus I didn't realize I had 3 picks on round 5  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 10:12 am : link
thought I had only 2. Time to adjust the draft board!
RE: Jesus I didn't realize I had 3 picks on round 5  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 13910801 jlukes said:
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thought I had only 2. Time to adjust the draft board!

At least your 3 are grouped pretty close together, mine are at the start and end of the round. A lot can change between picks.
Reporting for doody mongoes  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 10:40 am : link
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RE: Reporting for doody mongoes  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13910876 Optimus-NY said:
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Who you calling "mongoes?" Mongo
I'm here for two...  
Chris in Philly : 4/12/2018 10:55 am : link
when Kev shows up. This wait from 32 to 130 is ridiculous. Worst football year ever, from top to bottom...
RE: RE: Reporting for doody mongoes  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 11:01 am : link
In comment 13910889 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13910876 Optimus-NY said:


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Who you calling "mongoes?" Mongo



Mike Francesa tries to explain to an old guy what mongo nation is - ( New Window )
Okay  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 11:07 am : link
so a mongo is a follower of Francesa's show? Yeah, uhm? Hmm. Thanks. Did I miss it? Did he say where the name Mongo came from? Aside from Blazing Saddles.
I'm here  
Kevin in CT : 4/12/2018 12:03 pm : link
Give me a couple of minutes.
.  
Chris in Philly : 4/12/2018 12:08 pm : link
Holy fuck...  
Chris in Philly : 4/12/2018 12:18 pm : link
I had no idea that picture was so big!!!
RE: Holy fuck...  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13911142 Chris in Philly said:
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I had no idea that picture was so big!!!


lol dude. Too much big! You're up again tiger.
We had no 2nd or 3rd rounders...  
Chris in Philly : 4/12/2018 12:26 pm : link
and we waited 100 picks between selections, but we had two quick ones and we have reenforced our specials immediately with a pair of athletic defenders.
I almost picked Burks Chris  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 12:27 pm : link
Nice one.
Terrell Edmunds is the son of former Dolphins TE Ferrell Edmunds.  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 12:30 pm : link
Terrell's brother Tremain overshadows him, but Terrell is going to be a good one. I like bloodlines. Here's a good one.
Pick is in  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 1:23 pm : link
the Packers really incurred a number of injuries to their offensive linemen last year, so adding talent was a priority. What I read about Parker on-line made me think he was a good developmental project to add to the mix. Green Bay has had a knack for finding good linemen later in the draft. Guys who were able to contribute fairly quickly. Parker I believe is one of those guys.
through 4  
DCPollaro : 4/12/2018 1:42 pm : link
would have liked to go QB higher but Rudolph went before me. quite happy so far though

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Arizona (DCPollaro) Da'Ron Payne DT Alabama
Arizona (DCPollaro) Christian Kirk WR Texas A&M
Arizona (DCPollaro) Darius Leonard ILB South Carolina State
Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) Mike White QB Western Kentucky
Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) Isaac Yiadom CB Boston College
Sorry DC  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 1:42 pm : link
Try again. Isaac Yiadom was selected by the Eagles just a few picks before yours.
Shite  
DCPollaro : 4/12/2018 1:49 pm : link
Ok give me a few
RE: Shite  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13911422 DCPollaro said:
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Ok give me a few


Your replacement was also drafted previously, at pick #124
Man that was a flurry of picks!  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 2:17 pm : link
looks like we might start Round 5 Today!
So NE is on the clock but we've been using his board  
Matt G : 4/12/2018 2:18 pm : link
(which has now been exhaused) for the last several picks... I emailed him so hopefully he checks in...

I'm going to be offline probably until around 6 or 7pm... Also, I'm out at an offsite all day tomorrow... I will try to check email, but if others can continue to help making sure the picks keep moving that would be a big help... Thanks!
Well Shit!  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 2:20 pm : link
Rams got the TE I had my eye on. Crap. I was set to take him with my last pick, but I was too worried that Brandon Parker wouldn't be there at the top of the 5th round. So, I flip flopped them hoping Schultz would stick around. Gamble fail!

Damn you, BigBlueTT
RE: So NE is on the clock but we've been using his board  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13911501 Matt G said:
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(which has now been exhaused) for the last several picks... I emailed him so hopefully he checks in...

I'm going to be offline probably until around 6 or 7pm... Also, I'm out at an offsite all day tomorrow... I will try to check email, but if others can continue to help making sure the picks keep moving that would be a big help... Thanks!


I'd volunteer except my schedule looks a bit chaotic tomorrow, but maybe there is someone you can forward any boards you have for tomorrow and they can try to manage in your absence
Draft board decimated right now.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2018 2:54 pm : link
I think Clapp is a decent player. Thought he'd get around to me.
I have no boards at the moment  
Matt G : 4/12/2018 3:27 pm : link
But would send the GM email list to anyone who feels they will be active tomorrow...
RE: I have no boards at the moment  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13911693 Matt G said:
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But would send the GM email list to anyone who feels they will be active tomorrow...

I'll be around. You can send it to me.
Torrag's pick expires in 35 minutes  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 3:38 pm : link
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RE: Torrag's pick expires in 35 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13911730 jlukes said:
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As much as I would like to award someone a Punter, I do not think the Patriots would do that with Ryan Allen still around. Next guy up is Quin Blanding who makes sense
Interesting pick for Arizona  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 3:45 pm : link
I did consider Clapp, but my area scout who covers Louisiana, Jimmy Dugan, was screaming "avoid the clap"
RE: RE: Torrag's pick expires in 35 minutes  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13911746 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13911730 jlukes said:


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As much as I would like to award someone a Punter, I do not think the Patriots would do that with Ryan Allen still around. Next guy up is Quin Blanding who makes sense


Haven't looked at his picks, but if he hasnt taken a S yet then he'd be the pick
I'd create a call out thread  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 3:52 pm : link
but it would probably be a waste of time. Torrag hasn't been on BBI since last night.
I would post autopick  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 4:17 pm : link
But just wanted to see if everyone was on board since, technically, it is skipping the top name on the list
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 4:19 pm : link
go ahead. A safety here sounds about right.
Full day of packing the garage and attic for a move next week  
Rick in Dallas : 4/12/2018 4:25 pm : link
Exhausted but ready to make the Cowboys pick at number 137.
Fred Warner for the Cowboys  
Rick in Dallas : 4/12/2018 4:34 pm : link
Good speed on the outside, immediate impact on special teams. Insurance for the aging znd often injured Sean Lee.
I'm here for about 25 mins.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2018 4:34 pm : link
Will send Matt a 2 person board again if I leave without being OTC
Andy you are up  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 4:46 pm : link
Thanks to MadPlaid taking the final player on the short list for my pick of Da'Shawn Hand in Round 3 (Ian Thomas and Alex Cappa were the others)
And the 5th round is started  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 4:49 pm : link
Very fast day today. Nice.

Rashaan Gaulden is the pick. He has displayed excellent finger extension. Seemed like a good guy to have when you really need an unsportsmen like conduct penalty.

In all seriousness, solid defender who can play multiple roles, corner, safety or nickel. Apparently a very well liked teammate although has a propensity to allow emotions to get the better of him. Thus the bird trick v. Alabama.
I think the Giants are done.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/12/2018 4:49 pm : link
I don't see any more picks for Big Blue in 6 or 7.
You are welcome  
MadPlaid : 4/12/2018 4:52 pm : link
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Indy's pick is in, Seattle (sjnyfan) is up  
Go Terps : 4/12/2018 4:56 pm : link
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not going to lie  
Amtoft : 4/12/2018 5:01 pm : link
I am probably the only one but I was hoping Andy would take Michael Dickson Punter out of Texas. Kid is a stud.
are we doing a 6th round?  
Amtoft : 4/12/2018 5:01 pm : link
Wanted to know if we were still going?
RE: are we doing a 6th round?  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13911921 Amtoft said:
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Wanted to know if we were still going?


Yep. 6 Rounds (plus up to 5 UDFA per team) provided it can be completed before draft day
Great choice  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2018 5:03 pm : link
Andy!
Looks like the Sua Cravens trade wasn't accounted for  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 5:58 pm : link
Denver should have had pick 113 while Washington had pick 109

Denver also only owns 149 and 160 in the 5th round

The rest belong to Washington.

Should we fix round 5 or just go with what's on the board?
RE: Looks like the Sua Cravens trade wasn't accounted for  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2018 6:02 pm : link
In comment 13911993 jlukes said:
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Denver should have had pick 113 while Washington had pick 109

Denver also only owns 149 and 160 in the 5th round

The rest belong to Washington.

Should we fix round 5 or just go with what's on the board?


All trades done after the thread is created do not get accounted for even if we have not gotten that far yet. That is why Brandin Cooks trade was not factored in. That is the policy of BBI Mock Draft. Otherwise it becomes too much work for Matt who graciously volunteers every year to coordinate.
RE: I think the Giants are done.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/12/2018 6:06 pm : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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I don't see any more picks for Big Blue in 6 or 7.
Correct. You're done. I see you found another use for all that excess tissue on Orlando Brown: a new meniscus for Nick Nelson. Seriously, Nelson should be OK after surgery. He'd better be: the secondary needs immediate help.

Anyway, since it's easy to criticize, here's Andy's draft and what I might have done:
Sam Darnold QB USC (My Pick: Same or QB Josh Rosen - a tossup)
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma (My pick: C/G Billy Price)
Shaquem Griffin OLB Central Florida (My pick: OLB Kemoko Turay)
Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn (My pick: RB Nick Chubb or WR D.J. Chark)
Marcel Ateman WR Oklahoma State (My pick: DE Breeland Speaks or OT Geron Christian)
Nick Nelson CB Wisconsin (My pick: Same or DT Derrick Nnadi)

Pretty similar overall. I'm not quite as much of a fence-swinger as Andy, and I think we need to add at least one two-handed pass-rusher.
Agree Mike  
Rick in Dallas : 4/12/2018 6:06 pm : link
Leave picks as listed.
Fine by me!  
jlukes : 4/12/2018 6:37 pm : link
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We don't change the picks once we set the draft up  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 10:51 pm : link
That's how things are don with the annual BBI Mock Draft.
We don't change the picks once we set the draft up  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 10:52 pm : link
That's how things are don with the annual BBI Mock Draft.
We don't change the picks once we set the draft up  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 10:52 pm : link
That's how things are don with the annual BBI Mock Draft.
We don't change the picks once we set the draft up  
Optimus-NY : 4/12/2018 10:54 pm : link
That's how things are don with the annual BBI Mock Draft.
^^^  
Chris in Philly : 4/12/2018 11:12 pm : link
He feels very strongly about this...
; - )  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2018 12:17 am : link
...
I really like the J'mon Moore pick  
SirYesSir : 4/13/2018 7:56 am : link
and think he'll go higher in the real draft. Very talented, ran slow at the combine but tape shows a fast player with a lot of skills.
Jerry Jones/ Dez meeting today  
Rick in Dallas : 4/13/2018 8:45 am : link
I am sure JJ wants to keep Dez but Steven Jones is leaning towards a release of Dez from all reports down here in Dallas.
That is why I picked Ridley in first round.
It will be an interesting day in Dallas.
Seattle's pick is in  
sjnyfan : 4/13/2018 8:55 am : link
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jlukes has less than 30 minutes left  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 10:33 am : link
Considering their recent signing of Marquette King I am going to have to suggest we bypass the P :(

Next name on the list is Derrick Nnadi and since Denver has not gone for a DT yet I am tempted to go with that as the autopick unless anyone has an objection.
SiryesSir  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/13/2018 10:35 am : link
totally agree with you. I really like what I saw of him in a couple games I watched. The 49ers were going to take him in the later rounds but James Washington fell into our hands and he was too good to pass up!!
waiting on jlukes  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/13/2018 10:35 am : link
i'm ready with 9ers pick
Nnadi is a nice value  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/13/2018 10:37 am : link
in the 5th round high motor guy, a bit smallish but good film on him
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 10:38 am : link
Sounds good to me. Nnadi makes sense for the Broncos.

Odd that jlukes hasn't popped in here to make his pick. He has been checking in regularly. Even early this morning.
My picks are in for when I am up  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/13/2018 10:57 am : link
I won't be in front of a computer later today.
Times up  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:04 am : link
I'll go and enter the selection for jlukes
Pete from Woodstock is on the clock  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:06 am : link
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And just like that  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:08 am : link
Jay on the Island is on the Clock

Hopefully he checks in. He had an autopick last time around, so he making his own pick here is critical.
I spoke too soon  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:10 am : link
Way to go, Jay.

Now bigbluehoya is on the clock.
RE: And just like that  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 11:10 am : link
In comment 13912807 MadPlaid said:
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Jay on the Island is on the Clock

Hopefully he checks in. He had an autopick last time around, so he making his own pick here is critical.


He already picked!

BigBlueDownTheShore, Matt said he was going to be in the field today with limited access to e-mail. Perhaps e-mail MadPlaid your board
Sorry that I missed my last pick guys  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2018 11:12 am : link
On Tuesday I had a bad virus and I felt like garbage. I didn't check BBI until a couple hours after my pick.
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:13 am : link
Uh, BigBlueDownTheShore doesn't have my e-mail address.

BBDTS, how about post on here your list? You only need to put 4 guys considering there are only 3 teams before you.
RE: Sorry that I missed my last pick guys  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:14 am : link
In comment 13912819 Jay on the Island said:
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On Tuesday I had a bad virus and I felt like garbage. I didn't check BBI until a couple hours after my pick.

No worries. Glad you are feeling better.
Fuckin shit, sorry guys  
jlukes : 4/13/2018 11:20 am : link
hate the autopick but whatever, life happens.

My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.


Autopicks blow
RE: Fuckin shit, sorry guys  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 13912841 jlukes said:
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hate the autopick but whatever, life happens.

My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.


Autopicks blow


They don't blow as much as appendices do! Feel better.
RE: Fuckin shit, sorry guys  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 13912841 jlukes said:
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hate the autopick but whatever, life happens.

My appendix burst a few weeks ago and I forgot I had a follow up cat scan this morning.


Autopicks blow

Crap, that's crazy. Sorry to hear that, but very glad you are okay now. Yeah, I knew you wouldn't be too happy about the autopick. At least it was a guy who fits well with the Broncos.
Was actually misdiagnosed at the first hospital I went to in early  
jlukes : 4/13/2018 11:28 am : link
March. Spend 3 days there and got discharged. Drove myself to a different ER a week later when pain and symptoms returned.

I almost died.
Thankfully the infection walled itself off in my pelvis and created a  
jlukes : 4/13/2018 11:31 am : link
large abscess rather than spreading through my abdomen and causing me to go septic. Had a drain in my pelvis for about a week and was on a ton of antibiotics.

Lost about 13% of my body weight. Finally eating normal and feeling almost 100%

I go in May 10th to have whats left of my appendix removed

Holy shit, Dude!  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 11:40 am : link
My wife encountered something similar and almost died because of a burst appendix. She was only 11 at the time, and was laid up at the hospital for a long while.

I am really happy to hear that the snafu at the first hospital didn't cost you dearly. Sons of bitches.
RE: RE: I think the Giants are done.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/13/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13912000 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Andy in Halifax said:

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I don't see any more picks for Big Blue in 6 or 7.

Correct. You're done. I see you found another use for all that excess tissue on Orlando Brown: a new meniscus for Nick Nelson. Seriously, Nelson should be OK after surgery. He'd better be: the secondary needs immediate help.

Anyway, since it's easy to criticize, here's Andy's draft and what I might have done:
Sam Darnold QB USC (My Pick: Same or QB Josh Rosen - a tossup)
Orlando Brown OT Oklahoma (My pick: C/G Billy Price)
Shaquem Griffin OLB Central Florida (My pick: OLB Kemoko Turay)
Kerryon Johnson RB Auburn (My pick: RB Nick Chubb or WR D.J. Chark)
Marcel Ateman WR Oklahoma State (My pick: DE Breeland Speaks or OT Geron Christian)
Nick Nelson CB Wisconsin (My pick: Same or DT Derrick Nnadi)

Pretty similar overall. I'm not quite as much of a fence-swinger as Andy, and I think we need to add at least one two-handed pass-rusher.
I just realized Milton would be a huge fan of my draft.
Boylhart grades for my picks:
Darnold - 1.34
Brown - 1.49
Griffin - 2.33
Johnson - 1.69
Ateman - 1.89
Nelson - NR

I gather the first number is the round as that corresponds to his descriptions. Lower the number the better it seems. I've never been a big fan of Boylhart to be honest, so that does not bode well for my draft, lol.
Glad I caught this  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/13/2018 12:40 pm : link
Here are my auto picks

1) Avonte Adams - CB - Pitt
2) Davontae Harris - CB - Illinois State
3) Tarvarus McFadden - CB - FSU
4) Mark Walton - RB - Miami
RE: Glad I caught this  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13913001 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Here are my auto picks

1) Avonte Adams - CB - Pitt
2) Davontae Harris - CB - Illinois State
3) Tarvarus McFadden - CB - FSU
4) Mark Walton - RB - Miami

Thank you. We will give you a few minutes to make your own selection when you turn comes up. If after about 15 minutes, you don't post, I will make certain to select your highest remaining guy. Best
With Pittsburgh's picks  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 1:07 pm : link
I think he means Maddox (the Pitt CB) and that is just a typo
RE: With Pittsburgh's picks  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13913063 Mike in NY said:
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I think he means Maddox (the Pitt CB) and that is just a typo

Yes, that looks like a typo. Good catch. Thank you
RE: And the 5th round is started  
VinegarPeppers : 4/13/2018 2:27 pm : link
I’m frankly stunned we’re into the 5th round and Will Hernandez is still available.

The guy is an angry bulldozer.
RE: RE: And the 5th round is started  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13913241 VinegarPeppers said:
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I’m frankly stunned we’re into the 5th round and Will Hernandez is still available.

The guy is an angry bulldozer.


Drafted #29 overall
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 2:30 pm : link
I think he's attempting to troll us.
40 minutes left  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 3:04 pm : link
Considering New Orleans just signed their P to a 5 year contract, Dickson doesn't quite make sense here. Second on the list is also a P! Next after that is Troy Fumagalli/TE/Wisconsin. Can't see a reason to bypass at this point since New Orleans has not mock drafted a TE. Open for discussion though.
Browns here, ready for 150  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2018 3:07 pm : link
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RE: 40 minutes left  
Lionhart28 : 4/13/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13913284 Mike in NY said:
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Considering New Orleans just signed their P to a 5 year contract, Dickson doesn't quite make sense here. Second on the list is also a P! Next after that is Troy Fumagalli/TE/Wisconsin. Can't see a reason to bypass at this point since New Orleans has not mock drafted a TE. Open for discussion though.


I really like Fumagalli, good receiver despite missing fingers.
RE: RE: 40 minutes left  
Amtoft : 4/13/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13913288 Lionhart28 said:
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In comment 13913284 Mike in NY said:


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Considering New Orleans just signed their P to a 5 year contract, Dickson doesn't quite make sense here. Second on the list is also a P! Next after that is Troy Fumagalli/TE/Wisconsin. Can't see a reason to bypass at this point since New Orleans has not mock drafted a TE. Open for discussion though.



I really like Fumagalli, good receiver despite missing fingers.


I don't think any P or K should be part of the auto draft.
Time is getting short  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 3:31 pm : link
I think Fumagalli makes sense
Well, so much for hypnosis  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 3:44 pm : link
Saos took my guy.
RE: Well, so much for hypnosis  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13913330 MadPlaid said:
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Saos took my guy.


Sorry, could not get autopick in fast enough! Maybe give Pittsburgh until 4 before we go from their posted list
We have BigBlueDownTheShore's list  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 3:47 pm : link
Looks as though Avonte Maddox, CB, Pitt is the choice. Going to wait 15 minutes to give him a chance to enter the pick himself.
We see eye to eye on Pittsburgh  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 3:47 pm : link
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If we get to Matt G's pick before 5pm  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 4:08 pm : link
He has e-mailed me who he wants, so I can post it.
RE: Well, so much for hypnosis  
Saos1n : 4/13/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13913330 MadPlaid said:
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Saos took my guy.


Blame bigbluehoya... he took my guy lmao
The selfish bastid  
MadPlaid : 4/13/2018 6:07 pm : link
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Just because it is the weekend  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 11:06 pm : link
Doesn’t mean we can’t make progress. Currently at pick 149 (which means 70 picks to go). The pace has slowed during the week so if we want to be able to get this over by next Friday we need to pick it up a bit. We started off like gang busters.
I've got no picks in Round 5 for the Fish.  
Optimus-NY : 4/14/2018 12:57 am : link
I've got one pick though in the 6th round (#209 overall) for them. We'll be done by next Friday, I'm sure. IF we can get to pick #158 by the end of the weekend--we're at 149 now, so that's only 10 more to go until then--,which is realistic, then that'll only leave us with 60 picks over 5 weekdays. I think we can average 12 a day for the week. So far, so good.
Skins pick is in  
SirYesSir : 4/14/2018 3:04 am : link
Lionheart and his Browns are up...
Hercules  
YAJ2112 : 4/14/2018 1:04 pm : link
Hercules Hercules Hercules

Updated...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 1:08 pm : link

Round 4
101. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa
102. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from NYG) - Tony Brown, CB, Alabama – auto selection
103. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - Holton Hill, CB, Texas
104. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State
105. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Dorance Armstrong, OLB, Kansas
106. Denver (jlukes) - DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State
107. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) - Royce Freeman, RB, Oregon
108. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) (from T.B.) - Marcel Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State
109. Denver (jlukes) (from SF) - Joseph Noteboom, OT, TCU
110. Oakland (Amtoft) - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
111. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from Mia) - Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State
112. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Antonio Callaway, WR, Florida
113. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
114. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Parry Nickerson, CB, Tulane
115. Chicago (bigbluehoya) (from Ari) - RJ McIntosh, DT, Miami
116. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Tavarius Moore, S, Southern Mississippi
117. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
118. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana
119. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama
120. Seattle (sjnyfan) - Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida
121. Buffalo (superspynyg) - Alex Cappa, OT, Humboldt State
122. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Breeland Speaks, DE, Mississippi
123. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Cle, Car) - Jaylen Samuels, RB, North Carolina State
124. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from LAR) - Quenton Meeks, CB, Stanford
125. Tennessee (NYG27) - Desmond Harrison, OT, West Georgia
126. Atlanta (NoGainDayne) - Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
127. New Orleans (Saos1n) - PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houston State
128. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Pit) - Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
129. Jacksonville (Kevin in CT) - J'Mon Moore, WR, Missouri
130. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Min) - Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
131. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from N.E.) - Terrell Edmunds, S, Virginia Tech
132. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - Oren Burks, OLB, Vanderbilt
133. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory) - Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T
134. Arizona (DCPollaro) (compensatory) - Will Clapp, C, LSU
135. L.A. Rams (BigBlueTT) (from NYG) (comp) - Dalton Schultz, TE, Stanford
136. New England (Torrag) (compensatory) - Quin Blanding, FS, Virginia auto selection
137. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory) - Fred Warner, OLB, BYU

Round 5
138. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (from Cle) - Rashaan Gaulden, S, Tennessee
139. New York Giants (Andy in Halifax) - Nick Nelson, CB, Wisconsin
140. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Genard Avery, ILB, Memphis
141. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Hou) - Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State
142. Denver (jlukes) - Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State auto selection
143. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from NYJ) - Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State
144. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Kylie Fitts, DE, Utah
145. Chicago (bigbluehoya) - Cole Madison, OG, Washington State
146. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Oak) - Bilal Nichols, DT, Delaware
147. New Orleans (Saos1n) (from Mia) - Sean Welsh, OG, Iowa
148. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore) (from SF) - Avonte Maddox, CB, Pittsburgh
149. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - DeShon Elliott, FS, Texas
150. Cleveland (Lionhart28) (from G.B.) - Dorian O'Donnell, OLB, Clemson
151. Cincinnati (Matt G) - KeKe Coutee, WR, Texas Tech
152. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Davontae Harris, CB, Illinois State
153. Detroit (YAJ2112) - Hercules Mata'afa, OLB, Washington State
154. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Scott Quessenberry, C, UCLA
155. L.A. Chargers (armstead98) - Timon Parris, OT, Stony Brook
156. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Phi, Sea) - On the clock
157. New York Jets (Jon in NYC) (from Dal)
158. Cincinnati (Matt G) (from Buf)
159. New England (Torrag) (from Cle, KC)
160. Denver (jlukes) (from LAR)
161. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
162. Tennessee (NYG27)
163. Denver (jlukes) (from Atl)
164. New Orleans (Saos1n)
165. Pittsburgh (BigBlueDownTheShore)
166. Buffalo (superspynyg) (from Jax)
167. Minnesota (Allstarjim)
168. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from N.E.)
169. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
170. Cincinnati (Matt G) (compensatory)
171. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
172. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
173. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (compensatory)
174. Green Bay (MadPlaid) (compensatory)
Ravens 5th Round pick  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2018 1:21 pm : link
Happy that Quessenberry fell to #154 as I have seen some who have listed him as a 3rd/4th round prospect. Ravens lost Ryan Jensen to Free Agency, but I was never in a position with my prior picks to select a C without reaching. Glad need and value came together with this pick.
Emails have been sent to SEA and NYJ  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 1:53 pm : link
After my selection, i will auto-pick for NE (unless Torrag checks in the meantime)... I also have the pick for Buffalo at #166... I'm hopefully that we can get through most of RD5 this weekend...
Hi Matt  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2018 2:37 pm : link
Is there a reason why we are auto picking for Torrag on the weekend?
He submitted a board for his first two picks only...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 2:56 pm : link
Then after time expired on his new two picks, we were able to pull players who had not yet been selected from his original list... His 5th pick was auto selected... He has been online, but has not checked in since 4/5...
Okay  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2018 2:58 pm : link
Does this mean Torrag is in danger of being replaced?
I've been sending email reminders as well  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 2:59 pm : link
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I don't think so..  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 3:01 pm : link
Those were his final picks of this year's draft...
Yeah, not good to stop acknowledging the draft or responding to emails  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2018 3:01 pm : link
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Matt..why all the autopicks on Saturday?  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2018 3:03 pm : link

Did you receive player boards from the fake GM's on all these picks today?

Not a biggie..just asking




New England was the only autopick...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 3:21 pm : link
The other GMs sent me their picks via email and asked me to post on their behalf...
Awesome....great job Matt as always  
Rick in Dallas : 4/14/2018 3:24 pm : link
we really appreciate your lead on the mock draft.
RE: New England was the only autopick...  
MadPlaid : 4/14/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13914121 Matt G said:
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The other GMs sent me their picks via email and asked me to post on their behalf...

That’s what I suspected. It’s nice when the GMs check in.
Was out all day with the family. Pick coming shortly  
jlukes : 4/14/2018 6:33 pm : link
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CAR will likely be picking first thing tomorrow am  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 8:53 pm : link
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I really like Carter  
jlukes : 4/14/2018 8:57 pm : link
I think he has a chance to have a Tarik Cohen-like impact in the NFL.
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jlukes : 4/14/2018 9:26 pm : link
I believe we always postponed picks on the weekend...  
Torrag : 4/14/2018 10:10 pm : link
...until Monday. Since when has this changed?
No change  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 10:33 pm : link
You missed multiple and never checked in... That’s always been the rule...
I didnt miss multiple  
Torrag : 4/14/2018 10:35 pm : link
Every pick for me came from my board until I missed one. One.
I've done this draft for a decade  
Torrag : 4/14/2018 10:36 pm : link
I've missed a pick here or there over the years but we don't pick on the weekends...is that correct or not?
Feel free to post your pick tonight...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 10:40 pm : link
You hadn't responded to multiple emails and we basically ran the full clock on each of your last two picks...
And yes, we do pick on the weekends... The clock just doesnt run...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 10:42 pm : link
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RE: I've done this draft for a decade  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2018 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13914470 Torrag said:
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I've missed a pick here or there over the years but we don't pick on the weekends...is that correct or not?


The clock is turned off on weekends, but picks can still happen.
I apologize for being out of contact  
Torrag : 4/14/2018 10:46 pm : link
It's been a rough week for me. Thank you for making picks for me. I thought I made it clear that if you didn't hear otherwise to make my picks after 30 minutes to keep things moving. I don't want to slow down the momentum of the Draft. I'll stay in touch. Let the pick stand he was a guy high on my radar right now.
I hear ya, man...  
Matt G : 4/14/2018 10:50 pm : link
I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...
RE: I hear ya, man...  
jlukes : 4/15/2018 7:29 am : link
In comment 13914485 Matt G said:
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I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...


Yup my guy was always going to be Carter
RE: RE: I hear ya, man...  
Saos1n : 4/15/2018 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13914566 jlukes said:
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In comment 13914485 Matt G said:


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I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...



Yup my guy was always going to be Carter


You got my guy jlukes
RE: RE: RE: I hear ya, man...  
jlukes : 4/15/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13914786 Saos1n said:
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In comment 13914485 Matt G said:


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I've been scrambling to stay on top of work and keep things moving here (with a lot of help) as well... Glad you are ok with pick... as I said, you're welcome to change as I'm guessing jlukes had his guy targeted already...



Yup my guy was always going to be Carter



You got my guy jlukes


I knew somebody else had to have him on their radar
jlukes  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2018 1:05 pm : link
Me too.
Will give Pittsburgh his full time  
Mike in NY : 4/15/2018 1:20 pm : link
But he still has people on his list posted earlier on this thread
He sent in his request for this pick  
Matt G : 4/15/2018 1:32 pm : link
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We’re making decent progress this weekend  
MadPlaid : 4/15/2018 1:42 pm : link
We should at least finish the 5th round early Monday morning.
I would guess that we finish Thu/Fri  
Matt G : 4/15/2018 1:50 pm : link
Ideally, we wrap the week before the draft, so we are on target...
Thanks for posting my pick  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/15/2018 1:54 pm : link
My in laws house has terrible service and I couldn’t load the selection page.
I tried to talk myself out of Senat  
allstarjim : 4/15/2018 8:35 pm : link
But it's a good combination of value and need. Sy doesn't have a very good grade on him, but others do. Value is really there in the back end of the 5th round.
With only one pick...  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2018 9:10 am : link
in the first 129 slots, we have had to make do with trying to identify immediate special teams contributors and role players. Lazard is a big, strong receiver who can play as a WR/TE hybrid and go up and get balls in the corner of the end zone. A solid red zone target that could use some coaching to play a role at the next level.
RE: With only one pick...  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 9:25 am : link
In comment 13915538 Chris in Philly said:
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in the first 129 slots, we have had to make do with trying to identify immediate special teams contributors and role players. Lazard is a big, strong receiver who can play as a WR/TE hybrid and go up and get balls in the corner of the end zone. A solid red zone target that could use some coaching to play a role at the next level.


I wanted you to miss this pick so we could auto pick a Punter for the Eagles
Cippy  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 9:28 am : link
I had my eye on Lazard. For a late 5th rounder, he's a good pickup.

Ha, yeah, that would have been funny to give the Beagles an autopicked punter.
RE: RE: With only one pick...  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 13915574 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13915538 Chris in Philly said:


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in the first 129 slots, we have had to make do with trying to identify immediate special teams contributors and role players. Lazard is a big, strong receiver who can play as a WR/TE hybrid and go up and get balls in the corner of the end zone. A solid red zone target that could use some coaching to play a role at the next level.



I wanted you to miss this pick so we could auto pick a Punter for the Eagles


That's not how we roll, cuz!

Actually I think they need a punter...
Cowboys select Daurice Fountain  
Rick in Dallas : 4/16/2018 9:46 am : link
Offensive MVP of East West Shrine game. Had a private workout with Cowboys.
Another year, another mock drafted TE for the Pack  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 10:00 am : link
Every year it appears Green Bay needs help at the TE position. They did sign Jimmy Graham this year, but he has had injury issues over the years. I don't think he is the long term solution at TE. So taking a flyer on a talented guy from a big program makes sense. It is especially nice when I can find one late in the middle rounds. Welcome to Wisconsin, Mr. Smythe.
Cowboys select Tyler Conklin  
Rick in Dallas : 4/16/2018 10:14 am : link
Written not getting any younger. Cowboys take a chance with Conklin at end of 5th round.
Cowboys think highly of Rico Gathers progress
Last pick of the 5th round seems like a good place to take a chance  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 10:43 am : link
Will Richardson has had some disciplinary and injury issues at NC State, but when he's been on the field, he has been a player. No sacks or pressures given up in 2017. His position in college was tackle, but according to what I read on-line, he could potentially move inside to guard where it might be a better fit for him going forward. Versatility is always a plus. Also, added depth to the OL is a necessity for the Packers with all the injuries they sustained on the line last year. If Green Bay can help Richardson keep his head on straight, they could have found a real diamond in the rough.
RE: Last pick of the 5th round seems like a good place to take a chance  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 13915744 MadPlaid said:
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Will Richardson has had some disciplinary and injury issues at NC State, but when he's been on the field, he has been a player. No sacks or pressures given up in 2017. His position in college was tackle, but according to what I read on-line, he could potentially move inside to guard where it might be a better fit for him going forward. Versatility is always a plus. Also, added depth to the OL is a necessity for the Packers with all the injuries they sustained on the line last year. If Green Bay can help Richardson keep his head on straight, they could have found a real diamond in the rough.


Nice selection at #174. I was starting to put together my list for pick #190 and Richardson was at or near the top
Thanks, Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 11:06 am : link
I had a feeling others would be interested in a talented yet troubled tackle.
Texans are in dire need of a TE  
Boatie Warrant : 4/16/2018 12:09 pm : link
And I really like Christopher Herndon's upside. He needs to work on blocking but seems to have the desire to learn from what I have gathered from some write ups.
Colts' pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/16/2018 12:22 pm : link
Jets are up.
A Punter finally gets drafted!  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 1:23 pm : link
And surprise surpise, Jon drafted a player from Wisconsin for the Jets!
Several active users on deck  
Matt G : 4/16/2018 1:50 pm : link
So we should move quickly through the next half dozen or so picks...
Justin Watson!  
Chris in Philly : 4/16/2018 1:57 pm : link
Woo boo! Go Quakers!!
Yes I know a punter  
Jay on the Island : 4/16/2018 2:01 pm : link
the offensive lineman I wanted just went so I went with the best punter prospect in years. Dickson will likely go earlier in the real draft.
RE: Yes I know a punter  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13916095 Jay on the Island said:
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the offensive lineman I wanted just went so I went with the best punter prospect in years. Dickson will likely go earlier in the real draft.


Damn really wanted Dickson to fall to the Raiders. So close. Nice pick he is a stud.
RE: A Punter finally gets drafted!  
Jon in NYC : 4/16/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13916011 Mike in NY said:
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And surprise surpise, Jon drafted a player from Wisconsin for the Jets!


Haha! I think Jacobs has a shot to be a good pro. Great measurables and new to OLB. Good upside pick in the 5th. If nothing else he'll be a good special teams guy.
Things fell into place nicely for the 49ers!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/16/2018 3:01 pm : link
Rd 1- Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech
Rd 2- Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada
Rd 3- Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia
Rd 3- James Washington WR Oklahoma State
Rd 4- Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State
Rd 5- Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State
Rd 6- Jaleel Scott, WR, New Mexico State

how many drafts will ever have  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 3:08 pm : link
2 punters selected? Well mark this down as it will happen this year. To me though Dickson and JK Scott are on a whole next level. They both will be long time starters in this league and I couldn't be more happy to get one of them after release our punter.
Emails sent to WAS and NO  
Matt G : 4/16/2018 3:18 pm : link
I'm heading into a meeting from 330 to 530 and then heading home... Great progress today... Let's keep it rolling and finish strong!

I will be back online tonight
Folorunso Fatukasi, DT, Connecticut is the selection  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 3:19 pm : link
Big dude who didn't reach his lofty potential in college. With Green Bay, he will be afforded the opportunity to tap into that potential without having the pressure to do so immediately. Put him into the rotation, season with experience and in a couple years another late round steal. High character player. Can play 5-technique or nose guard. The Pack love flexibility.
I'm surprised I was able to get three picks in today  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
I was expecting 2 tops. It is very nice when we have a speedy day.
Pretty happy about the Broncos drafted  
jlukes : 4/16/2018 3:44 pm : link
didn't force a QB in the mid rounds

1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB
I have a pick ready to go  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 4:05 pm : link
If Washington does not take my player

May be worth doing a call out thread so SYS does not accidentally think a pick was made because New Orleans selected out of turn
RE: I have a pick ready to go  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13916291 Mike in NY said:
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If Washington does not take my player

May be worth doing a call out thread so SYS does not accidentally think a pick was made because New Orleans selected out of turn

Okay. SirYesSir is active on the site. A friendly call out.
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/16/2018 4:38 pm : link
You are up
hopefully Armstead is on also  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 5:17 pm : link
We can get through 3 picks quickly maybe.
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 5:32 pm : link
Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs
RE: Ravens pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13916416 Mike in NY said:
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Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs


Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy
RE: RE: Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/16/2018 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13916422 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13916416 Mike in NY said:


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Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs



Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy


What would a BBI Mock Draft be without me taking at least one of your targets?
RE: RE: RE: Ravens pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 7:25 pm : link
In comment 13916481 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13916422 Amtoft said:


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In comment 13916416 Mike in NY said:


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Sorry, was on a conference call so I could not pick earlier. Cichy is a gamble because of his injury history, but had he played a full season this year I do not think I come anywhere close to being able to draft him at #190 overall. I was a bit concerned that Jon would take him with the Jets, so I was happy that he went with Jacobs



Damn he was on my short list to draft this round. He looked to be like a real player before his injuries. I think he is going to be a very good pro if he can stay healthy



What would a BBI Mock Draft be without me taking at least one of your targets?


Yeah it is getting old! hahahaha
not sure when Armstead is going to pick...  
Amtoft : 4/16/2018 8:08 pm : link
I am going to leave a two player board right here since I am only taking one RB anyways and he already has taken a RB... So with that to keep the draft moving.. Here is my two player board live on the discussion thread!

1. RB Ito Smith from Southern Miss
2. RB Chase Edmonds from Fordham
Redskins are satisfied with their picks...  
SirYesSir : 4/17/2018 10:01 am : link
Only 5 picks total, Skins didn't have any picks added on at the end of the late rounds like most teams

(1) DE Marcus Davenport, USTA
(2) TE Dallas Goedert, S. Dakota St
(4) OG Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech
(5) FS DeShon Elliot, Texas
(6) WR Javon Wims, Georgia

I think they'd be ok with that group
Hi guys  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2018 10:13 am : link
I'm following things from halfway across the world. It's 6:05 pm here where I am in the UAE. I just wanted to say that even though I'm not posting that much with you all on the Discussion thread, that I'm still following everything that's going on. I'm 8 hours ahead of y'all, so things get hairy for me when it's around 4 pm back home in NY (it's midnight here at that point due to my being 8 hours ahead).

I just wanted to say everyone is doing a great job, and it's really fun to follow this. I've got one more pick to go for the Fish in our 6-round mock draft. My last pick for Miami is #209 overall, which is 19 picks from now being that we've finished 190. I've zeroed in on my guy and I hope he's still there when I pick next and lastly, but in the even he isn't I'll go ahead and put a board together once I'm about 5 picks away or if it's close to my bedtime here.

So far I'm happy with what I've got. I wanted Vita Vea in Round 1 but was awarded the CB Denzel Ward instead. He was my 2nd choice for that pick, so I'm still happy. I got B.J. Ward in the 3rd, the DT from N.C. State's superb D-Line, so he made me happy. I'll review them all once I'm officially done. Keep up the great work everyone and let's enjoy the last round.
LAC pick is coming shortly  
Matt G : 4/17/2018 10:15 am : link
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Chargers pick expires in about 20 minutes  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 10:16 am : link
The highest name on the board is a PK. Not sure if everyone was comfortable including that in the autodraft although their current options are Caleb Sturgis and Roberto Aguayo. If we were to skip that, the next name on the list since they have already taken a RB is Chase Litton, QB, Marshall who also makes sense for the Chargers.
RE: LAC pick is coming shortly  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 10:17 am : link
In comment 13917191 Matt G said:
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Guess our posts crossed. Amtoft put his 2 player board on this thread
I was hoping Ito might slide to UFA...  
Matt G : 4/17/2018 10:21 am : link
Strongly considered him in RD5
Let's give a few mins...  
Matt G : 4/17/2018 10:32 am : link
He checked in and said the pick was coming... I accidentally told him he had till 11am vs 10:29am...
Can we get an updated draft order  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/17/2018 10:42 am : link
in this round? I'm a little lost on when I am supposed to pick
RE: Can we get an updated draft order  
Matt G : 4/17/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 13917245 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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in this round? I'm a little lost on when I am supposed to pick

I would highly recommend using the BBI Mock spreadsheet (linked in my original post at top of this thread)... Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to update the thread until later this afternoon (at the earliest)...
Pick will be Chase Litton, QB, Marshall  
Matt G : 4/17/2018 10:58 am : link
Unless he posts by 11am...
RE: Can we get an updated draft order  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13917245 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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in this round? I'm a little lost on when I am supposed to pick


Pittsburgh has no other picks in Round 6 as they traded it to Tampa Bay in real life. Round 6 is the final round of the mock draft, but after it is completed, on a first come first served basis you can select up to 5 "UDFA's"
Cowboys select Colby Gossett  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2018 12:24 pm : link
Good value in round 6 will add depth to guard position on Cowboys.
My UDFA guy is still hanging around.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/17/2018 12:27 pm : link
I was disappointed i didn't have a 6th as I think he is a decent player but maybe I get lucky and he lasts to the end of the draft.
Los Angeles Rams  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 12:52 pm : link
They are usually pretty good, but since they have back to back picks I have no problem waiting until 3:29 (when the second pick expires) before we autopick
RE: Los Angeles Rams  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13917479 Mike in NY said:
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They are usually pretty good, but since they have back to back picks I have no problem waiting until 3:29 (when the second pick expires) before we autopick

L.A. has made their selections.
Or MadPlaid can pick for Los Angeles!  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 12:54 pm : link
I am not sure they would take a PK in real life with Legatron still on the roster
RE: Or MadPlaid can pick for Los Angeles!  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13917483 Mike in NY said:
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I am not sure they would take a PK in real life with Legatron still on the roster

Yeah, the instructions were the two highest players on the board. Perhaps, I should have queried other GM's on what would make sense.
No kicker for them if they have Legatron  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2018 1:07 pm : link
Gotta use common sense in that case.
We've got time  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 1:09 pm : link
I can undo it. The next highest is Jordan Thomas, TE. Would he be okay?
RE: We've got time  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2018 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13917514 MadPlaid said:
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I can undo it. The next highest is Jordan Thomas, TE. Would he be okay?


Thomas would be cool.
Okay then  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 1:17 pm : link
I will update the selection thread
Kansas City has 40 minutes or so  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 2:44 pm : link
Since their time is up at 3:21 PM. The PK really do not make any sense. Next name on the list after them is Virginia QB Kurt Benkert. I actually could see that as they could use depth behind Mahomes and Andy Reid is from the Ron Wolf school of taking QB's late if they are better than any of the QB's on the roster.
My threat of an autopick  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 3:00 pm : link
Works again!
Way to keep em honest, Mike!  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2018 3:03 pm : link
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Nicely done, Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 3:06 pm : link
Matt has let me know who Fatman wants, so I will post that in just a moment.
Matt hasn't provided me with any new information for BigBlue TT  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 3:11 pm : link
The last time we were here, he basically said take the two highest listed on the big board. Well, I suppose we should do the same here and not wait. Place Kicker then? Kidding. Would Kurt Benkert, QB, make sense here?
RE: Matt hasn't provided me with any new information for BigBlue TT  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13917713 MadPlaid said:
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The last time we were here, he basically said take the two highest listed on the big board. Well, I suppose we should do the same here and not wait. Place Kicker then? Kidding. Would Kurt Benkert, QB, make sense here?


No they took Barrett already so I would go to Apke
That makes sense  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 3:14 pm : link
So do think it would be okay to just go ahead and post the pick? No waiting?
I would give a little time  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2018 3:19 pm : link
I mean as long as the pick is in by 4 that means the next person has to pick before we go off the clock tonight so you can wait until 3:30/3:45 and see if BigBlueTT posts
RE: I would give a little time  
MadPlaid : 4/17/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13917734 Mike in NY said:
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I mean as long as the pick is in by 4 that means the next person has to pick before we go off the clock tonight so you can wait until 3:30/3:45 and see if BigBlueTT posts

Okay
For a 6th round pick, I really like Javon Wims  
Andy in Halifax : 4/18/2018 7:44 am : link
Only from watching an occasional Georgia game, but he always seemed to stick out a bit. He's also 6'4" 215 so worth a shot in 6, no question.

That was a nice pick by Washington.
Atlanta's time has technically expired  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 9:17 am : link
With Matt Bryant still going strong do they take a K, or do we skip to the next name (Benkert)?
Let's take the QB  
Matt G : 4/18/2018 9:19 am : link
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So much for the power of the call out thread  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 9:27 am : link
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New Orleans time is almost up  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 11:07 am : link
Call out thread is not catching Saos1n's attention. Does a PK make sense for the Saints or an OG?
Their K is Wil Lutz  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 11:17 am : link
I can't definitively say that they would not pass up a K
A kicker doesn't make sense with Lutz on the roster  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 11:18 am : link
Saints did pick up a OG earlier, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would take another. All teams need extra bodies for the OL. The next available player is a QB. That may make more sense considering Bree's age.
RE: A kicker doesn't make sense with Lutz on the roster  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 13918751 MadPlaid said:
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Saints did pick up a OG earlier, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would take another. All teams need extra bodies for the OL. The next available player is a QB. That may make more sense considering Bree's age.


Lot of need on OL in New Orleans so not sure we bypass Hearn
QB makes sense for the Aints  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 11:29 am : link
Not a kicker
RE: QB makes sense for the Aints  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 13918785 Optimus-NY said:
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Not a kicker

Apparently, the Saint's GM agrees with you. NGD autopicked the QB he was targeting for this pick here.
no special teams player  
Amtoft : 4/18/2018 12:41 pm : link
should be autodrafted.
RE: no special teams player  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13918918 Amtoft said:
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should be autodrafted.


That may come up yet again because Tampa Bay has less than an hour to pick. Mad Plaid has to do call out threads for everyone today!
Sure feels that way  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 12:46 pm : link
Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.
RE: Sure feels that way  
Jay on the Island : 4/18/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13918923 MadPlaid said:
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Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.

Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.
Let's go, Kevin  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 1:00 pm : link
RE: RE: Sure feels that way  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13918961 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13918923 MadPlaid said:


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Jay is on the site, so he should be checking in. You'd think.


Sorry for the delay, lots of shit to deal with at work today.

No worries. I was wondering if someone was going to take a flier on Toth. It did cross my mind.
I'll post my pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 2:46 pm : link
in a couple of minutes
How many UDFAs do we usually do?  
Lionhart28 : 4/18/2018 2:53 pm : link
5?
Eagles are done...  
Chris in Philly : 4/18/2018 3:12 pm : link
The dearth of quality picks hamstrung us, but we were able to add some talented young men who can challenge for playing time quickly even on a quality roster.

1 (32) Ronald Jones, RB, USC
4 (130) Isaac Yiadom, CB, Boston College
4 (132) Oren Burks, OLB, Vanderbilt
5 (169) Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State
6 (206) Kendrick Norton, DT, Miami
RE: How many UDFAs do we usually do?  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13919186 Lionhart28 said:
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5?
5 is correct
Very glad to pick up Bellamy so late in the draft  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 3:24 pm : link
the Pack needed to find quality talent for the D, and I think I did that. From what I read on-line, Bellamy is one of those glue guys. He may not make the most plays, but he is one of those guys who makes the team around him better. Takes on the blocks, so one of his teammates makes the play. He's the glue that keeps a team together and get the job done without all the flash. Injuries are a concern which is likely why he lasted to the 6th round.
Cowboys select Justin Lawlor with their final pick  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2018 3:25 pm : link
Visited Cowboys during Dallas Day. Cowboys have interest in Lawlor in late rounds.
Cowboys are DONE picks listed below  
Rick in Dallas : 4/18/2018 3:32 pm : link
1)Calvin Ridley
2)Harrison Phillips
3)Micah Kizer
4)Tavarius Moore
4)Fred Warner
5)Daurice Fountain
5)Tyler Conklin
6)Colby Gossett
6)Justin Lawlor

I think this draft helps the Cowboys where needed st
WR,LB,DL and safety.
Miami is up  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 4:33 pm : link
I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.
RE: Miami is up  
MadPlaid : 4/18/2018 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13919347 Mike in NY said:
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I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.

I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.
RE: RE: Miami is up  
Amtoft : 4/18/2018 5:21 pm : link
In comment 13919350 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13919347 Mike in NY said:


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I know Optimus is like 8 hours ahead of us. If the pick does not come in before he goes off the clock I have no problem giving him until 9 AM Eastern tomorrow as the final 9 picks are split between 4 teams so they likely will be fired rather quickly and it means that UDFA will take place during a sane hour tomorrow as opposed to starting late at night tonight when not many people will be around.


I agree. Funny how the end of the 6th round looks like the Amtoft show.


Ahhhh yeah!! of course by tomorrow morning I will be sleeping.
I'm here for the Fish  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 8:34 pm : link
Pick coming up
I'm going kicker here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 8:36 pm : link
Just deciding between the 2.
The Dolphins were desperate for a kicker here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:04 pm : link
I had a choice between the 2 best kickers in the draft. Carlson's mechanics and inaccuracy bothered me. I don't like guys huge guys like Carlson because I feel their mechanics aren't always up to snuff. Pineuro is was college football's most accurate kicker last year and has experience kicking in the state of Florida. He just so happens to be a Miami native as well. The Fish don't have anyone at kicker now, so he's my bet to be the kicker on opening day.

P.S. Pineiro stopped a domestic violence assault recently. He'll be great for the community as well.


Dolphins are reportedly interested in Gators kicker Eddy Pinieiro - ( New Window )
It's 5:04 am here  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:17 pm : link
Sorry for not being awake to pick. I tried my best.

I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:

Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida


I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.

I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)
RE: Pretty happy about the Broncos drafted  
est1986 : 4/18/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 13916254 jlukes said:
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didn't force a QB in the mid rounds

1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB


Martez Carter is one of my favorite sleepers in the draft. Glad someone picked him. I would have went in another direction in round 2 but outside of that you did well, good draft jlukes.
RE: It's 5:04 am here  
Mike in NY : 4/18/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13919634 Optimus-NY said:
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Sorry for not being awake to pick. I tried my best.

I'm done picking. Here are my selections for the Fish for this year:

Round 1 - CB, Denzel Ward, Ohio State *(auto pick)
Round 2 - C, Billy Price, Ohio State
Round 3 - DT, B.J. Hill, North Carolina State
Round 4 - RB, Jaylen Samuels, North Carolina State
Round 4A - S, Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech
Round 5 - None
Round 6 - K, Eddy Pineiro, Florida

I'm going back to bed now for an hour before I have to get ready for work. I think this is a pretty god haul for the Fish. Looks like we replaced some parts without reaching (e.g., Mike Pouncey at CEnter and Cody Parker at kicker) and got some value as well (I like Hill and Edmunds a lot in the 3rd and 4th respectively). Samuels is an all-purpose guy who I think will play a long time in the league and fill a lot of roles at RB and STs.

I'll talk more about my picks tomorrow and join the fray for the undrafted free agents tomorrow. Peace and thanks for understanding my situation guys with the 8-hour time difference. I appreciate it :-)


No problem. I will do my best to raid your UDFA list while you sleep
Amtoft - Go ahead, and have at it  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2018 9:27 pm : link
!
Made my pick...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:09 am : link
Going to put a two player board up now for my next pick and I will be back on tomorrow at 11am EST to make my last two picks assuming I am up.

For my next pick here is a two player board

OT David Bright from Stanford
CB Andre Chachere from San Jose State

Please wait for my last two picks at 11 am EST
Very happy with this pick  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 8:13 am : link
Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a big receiver with room to grow into his frame. This guy could become a great outside WR for the Texans with NFL weight training and coaching
RE: Very happy with this pick  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 8:24 am : link
In comment 13919966 Boatie Warrant said:
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Marquez Valdes-Scantling is a big receiver with room to grow into his frame. This guy could become a great outside WR for the Texans with NFL weight training and coaching


Nice pick. Was seriously considering him as a “UDFA” for the Ravens
Should we be talking autopick for the Vikings?  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 10:33 am : link
allstarjim hasn't active on BBI since last night. Riley Ferguson is next up. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Minnesota would select a QB.
RE: Should we be talking autopick for the Vikings?  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13920351 MadPlaid said:
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allstarjim hasn't active on BBI since last night. Riley Ferguson is next up. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that Minnesota would select a QB.


Actually, top name on list is Daniel Carlson. Vikings have Kai Forbath, who is a veteran, but he did miss 5 XP last year and 3 in 2016 (albeit in 7 games). FG numbers have been good so not sure why the yips on XP
True  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 10:44 am : link
a PK may not be so crazy in this case
I'm here  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 10:58 am : link
Will make pick in next 15 minutes.
If either the names discussed are autopick  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 11:00 am : link
I have narrowed my list down to two so I should be good as long as I am not with a client
Nice draft for  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 11:12 am : link
Minnesota
Thanks  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 11:17 am : link
And I still have one more pick!

I was a little reticent to go WR again after just having done so, but after Diggs, Thielen, and the recently acquired Kendall Wright, there is not much at the receiver position for them. I also feel like if I can put a little more weight on Tate, he could be a receiving TE.
Big risk with Victor  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 11:30 am : link
He is going to need some special attention to stay on point but should contribute early on specials if he gets his life straight.
Crazy how close we are to being done  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 11:33 am : link
Then the UDFAs!
Ravens pick is in  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 11:51 am : link
Now off to contact UDFA's

Round 1 - Harold Landry/EDGE/Boston College
Round 2 - Anthony Miller/WR/Memphis
Round 3 - Da'shawn Hand/DE/Alabama
Round 4 - Ian Thomas/TE/Indiana
Round 5 - Scott Quessenberry/C/UCLA
Round 6 - Jack Cichy/ILB/Wisconsin
Round 6 - Tracy Walker/S/Louisiana-Lafayette
Raiders picks are all in  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:01 pm : link
where do we put UDFA?
RE: Raiders picks are all in  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13920546 Amtoft said:
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where do we put UDFA?

In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.
RE: RE: Raiders picks are all in  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13920551 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13920546 Amtoft said:


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where do we put UDFA?


In the selections thread. You pick 5. It is first come, first served.


thank you brother!
No problem  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:10 pm : link
Don't take my guy(s)
Raiders draft...  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:16 pm : link
1st - LB Roquan Smith - best LB best I have seen a few years really.

2nd - DT Maurice Hurst - lightning off the line if not for medicals he is a high first round.

3rd - FS Jessie Bates - Range ball hawk.

4th - OT Chukwuma Okorafor - raw and big with a good upside

6th - P JK Scott - amazing punter second in the draft but in any other draft he would be the best. He is great

6th - RB Ito Smith - balance is amazing and great vision and cutting ability. I am a fan but he is a little smaller. Think he could be a good RB in the league

6th - FS/SS Tre Flowers - ran a 4.45 at 6'3 and over 200 lbs. Played well as a 3 year starter for Oklahoma State

6th - OT David Bright - Ultimate team player. I hate Stanford, but he has been great for them. He plays LT and did well, LG well, RG well... he moved and filled all year and played well. It hurt his draft stock but at worst I think he will be an amazing 6th lineman. At best I put him in a spot and he starts for me. I think he stays in the league for 10 years even as a backup. What more could you ask for in a 6th rounder.

6th - CB Andre Chachere - San Jose State was horrible this year and his play suffered a little. However he was great in 2016 and they avoided him a lot in 2017. I think he is a diamond in the rough or maybe not but I like the value

6th - LB Skai Moore - He is small and undersize but that didn't stop him from being a beast in the SEC. At worst he is a stud ST player and probably a really good nickel backer. Big fan here.
Paging allstarjim...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 12:19 pm : link
Let's get this thing done!
I've got my UDFA on hold!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 12:21 pm : link
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RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13920589 Andy in Halifax said:
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Ditto
My UDFAs are ready as well  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 12:25 pm : link
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RE: RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 13920594 MadPlaid said:
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Ditto


Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes
RE: RE: RE: I've got my UDFA on hold!  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13920596 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13920589 Andy in Halifax said:


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Ditto



Don't worry I am speaking with them while you are on hold and they have told me how much they want authentic Maryland crabcakes

Nuh Uh!! They are all in regarding the cheese plates we can offer out her in Wisconsin. I bet you didn't know they are cray cray for fondue?
I've had the luxury of two rounds off...  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 12:29 pm : link
I've been in regular contact and have a jersey printed, fuckers!
LOL  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 12:29 pm : link
.
Houston has legally called many propects  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 12:31 pm : link
in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???
I have to re-evaluate all of my UDFAs  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 12:32 pm : link
it appears Andy drafted them all in the middle rounds
RE: Houston has legally called many propects  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13920614 Boatie Warrant said:
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in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???


Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement
RE: I have to re-evaluate all of my UDFAs  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13920618 jlukes said:
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it appears Andy drafted them all in the middle rounds


No problem, there is still plenty of excess tissue remaining on Orlando Brown after creating a new hand a new knee
RE: I have to re-evaluate all of my UDFAs  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13920618 jlukes said:
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it appears Andy drafted them all in the middle rounds


So you are saying he has reached for UDFA in the middle rounds... Come on Andy you need to draft better!
RE: I have to re-evaluate all of my UDFAs  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13920618 jlukes said:
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it appears Andy drafted them all in the middle rounds


Hahaha
Sneaky bastard!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 12:35 pm : link
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Damnit, that was actually really funny  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 12:35 pm : link
lol
RE: RE: Houston has legally called many propects  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13920619 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13920614 Boatie Warrant said:


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in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???



Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement


I am here...choosing between my SIX players! Don't worry...my UDFA's will be in a separate post! But you better be quick, LOL.
RE: RE: RE: Houston has legally called many propects  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 13920638 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13920619 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 13920614 Boatie Warrant said:


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in the guise that we may have selected them with our 6th round picks. Now, Where is Allstar!!!???



Probably adding his UDFA selections to his pick announcement



I am here...choosing between my SIX players! Don't worry...my UDFA's will be in a separate post! But you better be quick, LOL.


Make a decision already! :)
so much refreshing  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 12:59 pm : link
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lol.  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 1:00 pm : link
Do the UDFA's go here or the selection thread?
Andy  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 1:02 pm : link
On selection thread
Did he fall asleep in his chair?  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 1:04 pm : link
:)
.  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 1:04 pm : link
RE: so much refreshing  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13920677 jlukes said:
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Yup. I'm getting carpel tunnel with all the clicks. allstar, you will be getting the bill from my surgeon.
he is going to  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:09 pm : link
get an auto draft at this pace
RE: RE: so much refreshing  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13920699 MadPlaid said:
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Yup. I'm getting carpel tunnel with all the clicks. allstar, you will be getting the bill from my surgeon.


F5 is your friend
RE: he is going to  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13920704 Amtoft said:
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get an auto draft at this pace

A kicker?! :-)
Mike  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 1:11 pm : link
thanks for the tip


Don't take my guy(s)
RE: RE: he is going to  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13920710 MadPlaid said:
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In comment 13920704 Amtoft said:


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get an auto draft at this pace


A kicker?! :-)


long snapper for making us wait
RE: RE: RE: he is going to  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 1:12 pm : link
In comment 13920716 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13920704 Amtoft said:


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get an auto draft at this pace


A kicker?! :-)



long snapper for making us wait

LOL!!

Sounds about right to me.
Yawn.  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 1:15 pm : link
Cmon
"What did you...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 1:16 pm : link
do for lunch today."

"um...nothing."
Maybe he forgot...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 1:17 pm : link
Like he's in Memento...
auto pick  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:19 pm : link
would be RB Justin Jackson
RE: auto pick  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13920744 Amtoft said:
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would be RB Justin Jackson


He was already selected. Daniel Carlson is BPA on list followed by Riley Ferguson if no K
Boom  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 1:22 pm : link
1st in with udfas
Had a quick deleting to do but got three UDFA's  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 1:24 pm : link
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Good work fuckheads...  
Chris in Philly : 4/19/2018 1:25 pm : link
Thanks to Matt again for organizing...
Matt, you magnificient basterd!  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 1:26 pm : link
Thank you!

And cheers to everybody for another fun year!
jlukes  
Amtoft : 4/19/2018 1:27 pm : link
nice grab on McCray and way to be fast!
Was fun  
Boatie Warrant : 4/19/2018 1:30 pm : link
Thanks Matt and All!
I forget my draft already, so I better post it all at once  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 1:30 pm : link
so I can refer to it later:

Sam Darnold, QB USC
Orlando Brown, OT Oklahoma
Shaquem Griffin, OLB/Edge Central Florida
Kerryon Johnson, RB Auburn
Marcel Ateman, WR Oklahoma State
Nick Nelson, CB Wisconsin

Greg Stroman, CB Virginia Tech
Roc Thomas, RB Jacksonville State
Grady O'Connell OT/OG Washington State
Damn, I have one meeting and y'all are  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 1:31 pm : link
all over these UDFAs. Luckily, only 1 of my guys was taken (Greg Stroman).
If Stroman was a touch bigger I think he'd be a premium pick  
Andy in Halifax : 4/19/2018 1:33 pm : link
His production was great and he's a good punt returner.
That was hilarious  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2018 1:33 pm : link
and will teach me to take my eye off the ball. I blinked and then there were a bajillion posts of UDFA's. Fortunately, I only missed out on one player. Crazy.

Thank you, Matt and everyone for helping to make this another fun mock draft. Everyone except dk in TX. You can suck it.
RE: If Stroman was a touch bigger I think he'd be a premium pick  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13920827 Andy in Halifax said:
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His production was great and he's a good punt returner.


He was in my top 3 since round 5, I almost drafted him 3 times.
Ravens draft is done  
Mike in NY : 4/19/2018 1:34 pm : link
Thank you Matt, MadPlaid, and everyone who worked hard on this

Now, to talk about my UDFA

Logan Woodside/QB/Toledo
Needed some QB depth and he was my BPA at the position

Trenton Cannon/RB-RS/Virginia State
Extremely productive as a runner, receiver, and return specialist at lower level. Pro Day numbers were insane. Hopefully he can be my Tarik Cohen

Darrel Williams/RB/LSU
With his ranking by Sy I thought someone would draft him. Gets high marks for work ethic and dedication on Special Teams

Greg Senat/OT/Wagner
Developmental OT

Grant Haley/CB/Penn State
Small, but feisty nickel CB. Nice workout numbers
Mike  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 1:37 pm : link
Haley is a 4 year player and will be a good nickel in the league. Furthermore, he'll be excellent on special teams.
You guys were fast.  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 1:47 pm : link
Minnesota with their draft and UDFAs:

Rd 1. Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
Rd 2. Frank Ragnow, C, Arkansas
Rd 3. Josh Sweat, DE, Florida State
Rd 5. Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida
Rd 6. Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State
Rd 6. Auden Tate, WR, Florida State
Rd 6. Chase Edmonds, RB, Fordham

UDFAs

Darious Williams, CB, UAB
Nic Shimonek, QB, Texas Tech
Taron Johnson, CB, Weber State
Khalid Hill, FB/TE, Michigan
Christian Sam, ILB, Arizona State

I kind of screwed up my last pick and UDFAs, though. I definitely wanted Darious Williams and Shimonek, but I don't think Edmonds was a great pick for this team. I hurried it though because I saw the comments I was taking too long. I didn't know you guys were just waiting there with bated breath! You guys are competitive!

Only changes I would've made is to probably draft Darious Williams and then swap his spot on the UDFAs for Ryan Nall. I think I'd rather have a big back that can be a hammer rather than a quick, small one like Edmonds.

Then I'm not sure I would've taken Taron Johnson as a UDFA as I already drafted Jackson and then would've added Darious Williams to bookend my draft with corners. It's too many DBs and I like to acquire guys with a reasonable chance to make my team.

I would've done a little more research on the linebackers as well, because I'm not sure on Christian Sam. Might've gone with Chris Worley from Ohio State instead.

All in all, I really like my draft for Minnesota. I think I at least added two STRONG starters to my team, one on offense and one on defense with the first two picks, and got some upside with the rest of the draft and guys that have a good chance to contribute. I loved getting Cedrick Wilson in the 6th, because I think he is going to be a good NFL player. I was surprised at how low he was ranked on the list and that he was still available so late in the draft.


Browns UDFAs  
Lionhart28 : 4/19/2018 1:49 pm : link
Brand Silvers, QB - Troy: Good size (6'3" 220), strong arm, quick release, 5th year guy, all-time leader in TDs for in school history.

Jester Weah, WR - Pittsburgh: Fast (4.43), lanky (6'3" 210), vertical receiver with big hands. Lacks quick twitch but could be a deep/red zone threat in the league. Devalued because of poor QB play.

Tony Adams, G - NC State: Compact frame, good agility/footwork and quickness, lacks length but should be at least a rotational player down the road.

Damon Webb, S - Ohio State: SY's #5 rated safety- "Fourth year senior that has started games at CB and S. The instincts are what jump off the screen here and it is arguably the most important trait I look for in a free safety. Webb has consistently shown the knack to anticipate throws and routes with the best of them. If I had to rank these safeties based on feel, Webb would be at the top. He lacks some of the desired tools, mainly size, but in a system where a true centerfielder is needed, he is a prized asset."
The dude just makes plays. He lacks the physical tools but is a great football player who will find a spot for himself on our squad.

Tremon Smith, CB - Central Arkansas 6'0" 190, ballhawk. Aggressive corner, slightly built but fast (4.32 pro day) and athletic. Played at a lower competition level but has the traits of a shutdown NFL corner. Can play slot or outside.


Pretty happy about the Broncos draft  
jlukes : 4/19/2018 2:38 pm : link
1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB

QB Kyle Allen, Houston
Almost drafted him in the 5th and 6th rounds but rolled the dice. Highly rated HS QB who was really drawing some interest from teams late in the draft process

FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
Thumper who can help in the run game with or without the ball in his hands

LB Mike McCray, Michigan
Physical middle LB, great inside 34 fit

DE Zach Seiler, Ferris State
One of the top D2 guys in the draft

WR Darren Carrington, Oregon
Raw talent, immature but not a bad guy
RE: Pretty happy about the Broncos draft  
allstarjim : 4/19/2018 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13921081 jlukes said:
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1 - Quenton Nelson, G
2 - Hayden Hurst, TE
3 - Kemoko Turay, Edge
3 - MJ Stewart, CB
4 - DaeSean Hamilton, WR
4 - Joseph Noteboom, OT
5 - Derrick NNadi, DT
5 - Martez Carter, RB
5 - Dane Cruikshank, S
6 - Charvarius Ward, CB

QB Kyle Allen, Houston
Almost drafted him in the 5th and 6th rounds but rolled the dice. Highly rated HS QB who was really drawing some interest from teams late in the draft process

FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma
Thumper who can help in the run game with or without the ball in his hands

LB Mike McCray, Michigan
Physical middle LB, great inside 34 fit

DE Zach Seiler, Ferris State
One of the top D2 guys in the draft

WR Darren Carrington, Oregon
Raw talent, immature but not a bad guy


That's a very good draft. Love the Nnadi and Noteboom picks...great value. I'm not a Dasean Hamilton guy, but it is a 4th round pick, afterall.
A big thank you to Matt for running the draft  
Rick in Dallas : 4/19/2018 4:04 pm : link
Also Mike in NY and Madplaid for helping Matt out.
This is always a fun mock draft .
We will see in 3 or 4 years how the Cowboys draft worked out.
Nice work all...  
Matt G : 4/20/2018 7:05 am : link
I will send FINAL RESULTS either later today or tomorrow...
RE: Nice work all...  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13922134 Matt G said:
Quote:
I will send FINAL RESULTS either later today or tomorrow...

Missed you yesterday. Was wondering who you would have picked up as UDFAs.

Thanks again for helping make this possible.
Yeah, I apologize... I was slammed...  
Matt G : 4/20/2018 9:50 am : link
Was crossing my fingers everything would continue moving along, which it looks like it did... BIG "Thank You" to you and Mike in NY and all the GMs for keeping things moving...
Fortunately, the tail end of the draft  
MadPlaid : 4/20/2018 9:52 am : link
was divided among only a few teams who were on the ball mostly.
Yes a big thank you to  
Amtoft : 4/20/2018 12:04 pm : link
Matt G for running this again. You rock brother. Also Mike and MadPlaid and others for always being on top of things and helping to keep this thing going. Amazing job and I could be wrong but the fewest autodraft picks in a long time right?
Great time as always  
Lionhart28 : 4/20/2018 1:38 pm : link
Good luck, y'all!
Hi Matt G - Can you please add these 5 UDFA for the Fish to the list?  
Optimus-NY : 4/21/2018 1:43 am : link
1 - QB, Riley Ferguson, Memphis
2 - PK, Michael Badgely, Miami
3 - C, Coleman Shelton, Washington
4 - WR, Byron Pringle, Kansas State
5 - CB, Danny "Louisiana Pimpdog" Johnson, Southern


THANKS!!
Feel free to un-sticky these as a FINAL RESULTS thread  
Matt G : 4/21/2018 5:48 pm : link
Has been posted
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