I spent most of the 80 & 90s screaming that Michael Jordan should of been traded because he was always disgusting sticking out his tongue all the time.
I spent most of the 80 & 90s screaming that Michael Jordan should of been traded because he was always disgusting sticking out his tongue all the time.
And Eli's deer in the headlight look.
Off with his head!!!
I think we all agree that there is things he needs to improve upon
as far as decisions making. I still would never condone him spearing Norman in 2015, despite Norman's antics. But one day he is going to get it and ignore all the BS and just dominate week in and week out.
The contract may get a little sticky, but if he dominates again this year, it will only help the Giants.
Incredible talent. Easily the best Giants offensive weapon I've ever seen. The amount of people wanting to run him out of town never ceases to amaze me. I think some of it's because he didn't play a lot last year & people have forgotten how great this guy truly is when he's out there on the field healthy.
I agree that he needs to mature, but it's not like he's a bad kid. He's no Zeke, Hardy, AP, Josh Brown, & the like.
whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
Laying out that simple logic, yet more than half of BBI want to blame Eli for our horrid season last year. Just the other day, someone pointed to the Oakland game as proof that Eli is done because Geno did just as well with the supporting cast.
whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
Laying out that simple logic, yet more than half of BBI want to blame Eli for our horrid season last year. Just the other day, someone pointed to the Oakland game as proof that Eli is done because Geno did just as well with the supporting cast.
I definitely think Eli has lost a few mph off his fastball, but the guy was in an impossible situation last year.
How is a pocket passer supposed to succeed with a group of practice squad WR's and a JV offensive line?
You can't saddle a QB with that and expect them to succeed.
I still think NYG need to be making their future QB plans now - but I also feel pretty confident that if you protect Eli and he has a few weapons, he will still win games in this league.
Honestly watching all the ridiculous plays OBJ makes is what has made watching this team fun over the last several years - even with our horrid win rate. Watching his highlights are like watching that Ronaldo bicycle kick the other day - just damn fun to watch!
Joey nailed it - we need more players that want to create havoc on offense.
On a different note, rewatching that offensive line is making we question how Eli can still walk. That dude is tough as nails.
That's the same with any player in the history of football. The problem is some of you are too blinded by individual stats and overall you can care less about team success.
With that said, OBJ is great player when he plays/is not hurt.
If a player is having individual success, he is helping the team. Beckham is an explosive playmaker and any time he steps on the field, he makes the team better. Defenses have to account for him, which opens up opportunities for other players.
Not saying he isn't helping the team. Why do you even make that point? My point was that if you get a crazy offer why wouldn't you make the trade? Unless only OBJ can help the team? I know that isn't your point. But please don't try to twist what I said into your narrative. You get that I said OBJ is a great player didn't you? So you couldn't understand from my post that while OBJ can be great - if we get more players whose over value can be greater that it would be ok to trade OBJ? I was speaking to the fans who'd rather watch one individual player rather thna watch the Giants win.
And that's why I have a low regard for fans such as yourself. And btw, it's okay to hate him- the person in terms of how he acts- but still want him. You get that, don't you?
but he has not made his future better, Think he is a huge target now by the DBs and LBs in the league and their coaches. How much has he lost with this last injury ? Not a long term deal signing for me . He will be injured very quickly in this atmosphere. He is still acting out. Was a tremendous talent but big bucks now I would hesitate. Remember the other WRS we had : Plaxico , Nicks and Cruz, How long did they last; 2/3 seasons. Do not repeat your mistakes. IMO
but he has not made his future better, Think he is a huge target now by the DBs and LBs in the league and their coaches. How much has he lost with this last injury ? Not a long term deal signing for me . He will be injured very quickly in this atmosphere. He is still acting out. Was a tremendous talent but big bucks now I would hesitate. Remember the other WRS we had : Plaxico , Nicks and Cruz, How long did they last; 2/3 seasons. Do not repeat your mistakes. IMO
So much wrong with this post that I'm not even sure where to start.
And Eli's deer in the headlight look.
Off with his head!!!
The contract may get a little sticky, but if he dominates again this year, it will only help the Giants.
I agree that he needs to mature, but it's not like he's a bad kid. He's no Zeke, Hardy, AP, Josh Brown, & the like.
This new coaching staff could do some incredible things with 13
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
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whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
Laying out that simple logic, yet more than half of BBI want to blame Eli for our horrid season last year. Just the other day, someone pointed to the Oakland game as proof that Eli is done because Geno did just as well with the supporting cast.
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whether it be this year, next year, or the following year - wouldnt you want the new QB to have a guy like him to throw to so that his job is easier as well?
This is one of the points I keep making.
Look at the WR's on this roster right now and then take Beckham away from that group.
Then try to find me three teams in this league with a worse WR group. I don't think you can.
Whether it's Eli or a rookie - we're setting them up to fail if those are the WR's we give them.
Laying out that simple logic, yet more than half of BBI want to blame Eli for our horrid season last year. Just the other day, someone pointed to the Oakland game as proof that Eli is done because Geno did just as well with the supporting cast.
I definitely think Eli has lost a few mph off his fastball, but the guy was in an impossible situation last year.
How is a pocket passer supposed to succeed with a group of practice squad WR's and a JV offensive line?
You can't saddle a QB with that and expect them to succeed.
I still think NYG need to be making their future QB plans now - but I also feel pretty confident that if you protect Eli and he has a few weapons, he will still win games in this league.
Joey nailed it - we need more players that want to create havoc on offense.
On a different note, rewatching that offensive line is making we question how Eli can still walk. That dude is tough as nails.
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On your last gif, watch the awareness of Fluker in picking up the stunt. Is that a bear hug from behind takedown?
Ever seen a 330 pound man panic? You just did.
Seen it? I lived it!
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That's the same with any player in the history of football. The problem is some of you are too blinded by individual stats and overall you can care less about team success.
With that said, OBJ is great player when he plays/is not hurt.
If a player is having individual success, he is helping the team. Beckham is an explosive playmaker and any time he steps on the field, he makes the team better. Defenses have to account for him, which opens up opportunities for other players.
Not saying he isn't helping the team. Why do you even make that point? My point was that if you get a crazy offer why wouldn't you make the trade? Unless only OBJ can help the team? I know that isn't your point. But please don't try to twist what I said into your narrative. You get that I said OBJ is a great player didn't you? So you couldn't understand from my post that while OBJ can be great - if we get more players whose over value can be greater that it would be ok to trade OBJ? I was speaking to the fans who'd rather watch one individual player rather thna watch the Giants win.
And that's why I have a low regard for fans such as yourself. And btw, it's okay to hate him- the person in terms of how he acts- but still want him. You get that, don't you?
He wasn't before? He's been in the league for four years.
So much wrong with this post that I'm not even sure where to start.
Awful comparisons, incorrect info, terrible logic.
The trifecta of suck all wrapped up into one unnecessary paragraph.