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Josh Rosen Fans - Tell me what I am missing

Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 3:07 pm
To preface I have watched him play some games in college. I will tell you the truth, I do not see what a lot of you guys and the talking heads see. So I looked on YouTube for some scouting reports to hear what people are saying. Maybe I am just taking crazy pills. Personality and locker room lawyer aside, I am not basing it on any of that. I am talking purely as a fan watching a QB.

So I found this video right near the top calling Josh Rosen Overrated. So of course I had to watch it. While he does point out some of the same things I see when I watch Josh I don't agree with his assumptions of Josh's non football activities. I am talking strictly as a QB. He shouldn't have went there.

I will list my concerns and tell me what am I missing?

While he does have a nice release and repetitive throwing motion I find that the receivers do more adjusting to the ball than it being perfectly placed. I don't know but to back up that he is not an overly accurate QB as he is made out to be if you look at his college stats he is a college career 60% passer. The way everybody talks about him you would think he was mid to high 60's.

I noticed too many times when he leaves the pocket bad things happen. He is less accurate there and makes a lot of head scratching throws.

I was watching another scouting report on a CB Isaiah Oliver. Oliver was covering the UCLA WR and when Rosen made the throw it was seriously under thrown. Even Brett Kollmann who was giving his review of the CB stated how poorly thrown the ball was. It was not a back shoulder throw because Brett said you would never throw a back shoulder pass with a high arc.

Another major concern for me is in 3 college seasons he only has one completed playing every game. If you can't stay healthy you are no good to your team.

So I am not trashing the kid, I just want to know purely what makes you so confident in him? Because I just don't see it. He looks like an average QB to me.








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RE: I will tell you what you are missing  
Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13906814 Archer said:
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I have watched a lot of college football and I have access to college game films . My opinionions are tempered by my experience of having played division one collegiate football

When the season started I loved Darnold but then I started watching Rosen play

I prefer Rosen and here is why
Rosen has a stronger arm and is more accurate
Rosen protects the ball better than Darnold

Rosen makes checks at the line, he calls the plays , he ran a pro style offense , he throws a tight spiral, he is the best college QB I have seen in a long time in play action , he sells the run fake, he has touch , a quick release, he moves and slides in the pocket to buy time, he can run and if you watch his games you will see that he can play a RPO offense

Oh and he throws a beautiful deep pass

What else could you want from qb?

It is one thing to project physical talent but it is another to see game intelligence . The hardest part of the transition to the pros for a QB is their ability to slow the game down and to play fast
Rosen is the only QB in the draft how has demonstrated this innate apptitude
After watching him play he reminds me of a more athletic Peyton Manning


Great post Archer and thanks. I can't say I am warming to him, but maybe I am not as opposed as I was before this thread. I am still concerned about him staying on the field healthy.
Rosen certainly looks the part  
JonC : 4/9/2018 4:14 pm : link
physically, but it's the concussions and it seemed he didn't raise the play of his team very often that bugs me. He was terrific in the A&M game, but that was the exception.
The truth? It is what we are NOT missing.  
LarmerTJR : 4/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
It is information overload. As a scout and NFL exec, it's great. As a fan, it sucks. We have more time to evaluate more film on every possible scenario and play that each guys has made, or not made. Yet, context and situation are not know. Other factors as well. Everyone has a great highlight reel. Everyone also has a shitty "lowlight" reel. You can do the same for Darnold as was just done for Rosen. Shit, highlights can make Kessler look like Brady, and vice a versa.
Let's trust the scout and out execs, because we really have no say. I love Rosen, but I have been wildly wrong before.
Tom...  
bw in dc : 4/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
I think those are moments when he's likely trying to move the safety with subtle fakes.
RE: Rosen certainly looks the part  
twostepgiants : 4/9/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13906826 JonC said:
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physically, but it's the concussions and it seemed he didn't raise the play of his team very often that bugs me. He was terrific in the A&M game, but that was the exception.


UCLA is 17-13 with Rosen and 1-6 without him
I like Rosen a lot. But if the Giants draft him, the days of ignoring  
Heisenberg : 4/9/2018 4:17 pm : link
the backup QB and only keeping 2 QBs are pretty much over. Durability is the thing I worry about him. I feel pretty good that he can be a solid NFL pocket passer, like Matt Ryan or similar. But, I do not feel good that he can last 16 games most seasons. Giant fans have had their ups and downs with Eli but we also haven't been subjected to bad backup QB play either.
RE: Rosen certainly looks the part  
Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13906826 JonC said:
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physically, but it's the concussions and it seemed he didn't raise the play of his team very often that bugs me. He was terrific in the A&M game, but that was the exception.


You know JonC, maybe that is what I saw. To me he appeared average. An average QB that hasn't played a full college season more than once.

I am getting some good feedback here that is making me reconsider some of my original thoughts on him but as of right now I like Darnold and Mayfield better.
RE: Tom...  
Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13906830 bw in dc said:
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I think those are moments when he's likely trying to move the safety with subtle fakes.


that's a good point but where he holds the ball is kind of lower and I don't know if the saftey or db would see that. I can't remember what game I was watching but it sticks in my head. It almost seemed like he was counting or timing or something, but it was part of his delivery.
As for his hits  
Archer : 4/9/2018 4:24 pm : link
I do not see his taking hits as a negative
Rosen is a tough player and rather than dump the ball off or throw it away he took some unecessary hits

Rosen would extend plays

Also Rosen took a lot of hits from pressure up the middle.
UCLA interior line play was lacking
RE: I like Rosen a lot. But if the Giants draft him, the days of ignoring  
Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13906834 Heisenberg said:
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the backup QB and only keeping 2 QBs are pretty much over. Durability is the thing I worry about him. I feel pretty good that he can be a solid NFL pocket passer, like Matt Ryan or similar. But, I do not feel good that he can last 16 games most seasons. Giant fans have had their ups and downs with Eli but we also haven't been subjected to bad backup QB play either.


I agree and I said for a while if we draft Rosen we better hope that Webb is a good backup.
I think it's perfectly reasonable btw....  
bw in dc : 4/9/2018 4:25 pm : link
to like Darnold better. I see the attraction - especially his size and durability.

Mayfield? NFW. He could certainly be a good QB but there are just too many other elements that signal a more likely outcome of being ordinary to below average. That body type, size, and attitude are all pointing the wrong way...in my judgment.
RE: RE: Rosen certainly looks the part  
JonC : 4/9/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13906832 twostepgiants said:
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In comment 13906826 JonC said:


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physically, but it's the concussions and it seemed he didn't raise the play of his team very often that bugs me. He was terrific in the A&M game, but that was the exception.



UCLA is 17-13 with Rosen and 1-6 without him


Neither one is impressive at the college level.
RE: Essentially here is what makes Rosen...  
Thegratefulhead : 4/9/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13906812 bw in dc said:
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so enticing as a candidate:

Textbook mechanics in preparing and then delivering the football. And it's really an A to Z process.

Rosen has outstanding footwork getting into the pocket to quickly make his reads. There is no wasted motion going from the center to the pocket. It's a very smooth process versus anybody in this draft, and basically anybody I've seen in years. Looks to be a product of outstanding coaching somewhere along the way; and he's really fine tuned it. Rosen looks like he's just floating in the pocket. He's well ahead of the curve there.

And just watch the throwing motion. There is no wasted motion and no hitch. He quickly gets the ball up to shoulder level, both hands firmly on the ball (but very natural looking, not robotic or mechanical), takes it back with no hitch, and then snaps right through his delivery. The ball doesn't float or wobble. it's a very tight spin that really cut through the air quickly. He can really get it there on a rope or with touch. And all this adds up to the most effective way to fit the ball into the tightest windows. It's really the perfect mix of a lot of hard work and God give talent. To me, he's Peyton Manning but with a better arm and more athleticism (I'm not saying he's got the pelts Manning had at Rocky Top. I'm comparing their outstanding QB fundamentals).

Is Rosen great out of the pocket? No. But he's athletic enough to be a real threat. He never panics and always has he head up looking down the field. The rush does not cause happy feet or anxiety. And those are key attributes.

I'm always surprised that people can't quickly see the skill set of JR. it just jumps off the screen for me.

But I more concerned about the injury history. Red flags there snapping in the wind. It's a hurdle I just can't get comfortable with.

But he's clearly THE most gifted pocket QB in this draft. And it isn't close...
Agreed. I see everything you see with Rosen. His mechanics are Brady like to me. You go straight to game planning with this kid. None of the other prospects can say that.
Rosen  
Archer : 4/9/2018 4:30 pm : link
One other note

I like Rosen but it is irrelevant
I can only form opinions based upon limited information
I can state that I like a player but I trust that this Giant management will select the best player for the Giants

Rosen looks great  
JonC : 4/9/2018 4:32 pm : link
I'm just not sure the results were there at the collegiate level to really suggest he'll be great in the NFL. If we pick him I hope I'm dead wrong.

RE: Rosen  
Tom from LI : 4/9/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13906854 Archer said:
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One other note

I like Rosen but it is irrelevant
I can only form opinions based upon limited information
I can state that I like a player but I trust that this Giant management will select the best player for the Giants


I agree 100% Well put Archer
RE: I like Rosen a lot. But if the Giants draft him, the days of ignoring  
FStubbs : 4/9/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13906834 Heisenberg said:
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the backup QB and only keeping 2 QBs are pretty much over. Durability is the thing I worry about him. I feel pretty good that he can be a solid NFL pocket passer, like Matt Ryan or similar. But, I do not feel good that he can last 16 games most seasons. Giant fans have had their ups and downs with Eli but we also haven't been subjected to bad backup QB play either.


That's where having a Webb to develop actually becomes a good thing.
Rosen  
WillVAB : 4/9/2018 4:59 pm : link
Imv it looks like heís getting knocked unfairly by a lot of people bc they donít like his personality. I see a guy who throws the best ball of any QB in this class. Will that translate to the pros? Will he be durable enough? Who knows, but he looks a hell of a lot better than the other guys and Iím in the trade down camp.
Tom  
Archer : 4/9/2018 5:05 pm : link
There is no one good player and bad players
All of the players we are talking about were great collegiate players

We are splitting hairs when offering opinions
I do not even have a real presence as to whom the Giants should select
I just know that there are players that I like and others that I like less
he's like sunshine (Ronny Fein) in remember the Titans  
gtt350 : 4/9/2018 5:07 pm : link
.
Rosen has all of the traits of most of the greats  
twostepgiants : 4/9/2018 5:13 pm : link
Brady, Peyton, Montana, Marino, etc.

The predominant amount of great QBs and Super Bowl winning QBs have been pocket passers with exceptional footwork, mechanics and intelligence and a drive to push further. (This is Rosen challenging of his coaches) They read the defense, call plays at the line and deliver the ball to a weakness in the defense with accuracy.

Rosen learned his college playbook in 3 days and pushed his coaches to give him more options for the offense in his sophomore year.

he had to learn 3 different offenses under 3 different OCs.

Footwork and mechanics, etc are not traits your born with. They must be perfected. Rosen has to be an incredible hard worker and dedicated to his craft in order to have this.

You can see this in his play action fake. It is textbook perfect.

people are far overlooking these traits in Rosen and just acting like they all could be learned all so easy. They drool over an 80 pass that could never realistically be completed in a game.

Rosen just doesnt throw the best pass of any QB in this draft. He throws the best pass of any QB since Andrew Luck. Thatís the best in 6 drafts.

This is an uncommon QB available here. He should be the 1 pick. The Giants are fortunate that Cleveland appears to be overlooking him for attitude concerns. (Dorsey reference from a Nov article)
Rosen is Mark Sanchez 2.0  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/9/2018 5:16 pm : link
Both give me the same vibe, quirky "leadership" and intangibles that teammates will not follow.

Rosen does check off way more boxes than Sanchez, who hardly checked off any, and somehow Jets got bamboozled into drafting him high. But there's also a chance Rosen will get dumped by Eva Longoria because he sucks causing him to buttfumble.
Jeff George  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/9/2018 5:22 pm : link
> Rosen
Agree with the OP  
eric2425ny : 4/9/2018 5:31 pm : link
Not that highlight videos are totally indicative of a players skill set, but I was a little concerned that many of his ďhighlightĒ deep passes were throws where the ball seemed to sail and hang out there forever. I kept thinking to myself that half of these throws would be pick 6ís in the NFL.
Winning in college  
ryanmkeane : 4/9/2018 5:37 pm : link
is cool, but it doesn't really tell you a whole lot about your NFL projection. Jared Goff went 14-23 at Cal including 1-11 freshman and 5-7 sophomore year. The team was downright pitiful. UCLA was pretty bad except for Rosen. They wouldn't win more than 1 game without him.
RE: Rosen is Mark Sanchez 2.0  
twostepgiants : 4/9/2018 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13906930 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Both give me the same vibe, quirky "leadership" and intangibles that teammates will not follow.

Rosen does check off way more boxes than Sanchez, who hardly checked off any, and somehow Jets got bamboozled into drafting him high. But there's also a chance Rosen will get dumped by Eva Longoria because he sucks causing him to buttfumble.


I think you mean Darnold. He has been cited as "leadership" and IT factor. Not Rosen
RE: Jeff George  
GFAN52 : 4/9/2018 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13906937 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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> Rosen


Rosen is the goods  
Jimmy Googs : 4/9/2018 6:57 pm : link
and will displace Eli this summer...
RE: Rosen is the goods  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/9/2018 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13907052 Jimmy Googs said:
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and will displace Eli this summer...


You mean displace him like water in his hot tub?
RE: I like Rosen a lot. But if the Giants draft him, the days of ignoring  
Diver_Down : 4/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13906834 Heisenberg said:
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the backup QB and only keeping 2 QBs are pretty much over. Durability is the thing I worry about him. I feel pretty good that he can be a solid NFL pocket passer, like Matt Ryan or similar. But, I do not feel good that he can last 16 games most seasons. Giant fans have had their ups and downs with Eli but we also haven't been subjected to bad backup QB play either.


We have all been spoiled by Eli. Not a single prospect will likely live up to his iron-man legacy. I'm not even going to acknowledge the Oakland game last year. Eli is still the iron-man (with and asterisk). Look around the league, nearly every QB has missed a game or more due to injury. It will likely continue regardless of which prospect we end up drafting.
RE: Rosen looks great  
GoBlue6599 : 4/9/2018 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13906862 JonC said:
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I'm just not sure the results were there at the collegiate level to really suggest he'll be great in the NFL. If we pick him I hope I'm dead wrong.

I'm not sure what results you're referring to? UCLA has a awful defense that gave up nearly 300 rush ypg and 35 ppg
How many football games are you gonna win when your D gives up nearly 300 rush yards?
The team is 1-6 without him .. they're a bad football team
What was Eli's college record? What big games did Ole Miss win in the SEC with Eli? Expectations should be with in reason
Just a example but when I watch the Southern Cal game I saw Rosen as the better Qb that lost to a better team

RE: Rosen is Mark Sanchez 2.0  
bw in dc : 4/9/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13906930 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Both give me the same vibe, quirky "leadership" and intangibles that teammates will not follow.

Rosen does check off way more boxes than Sanchez, who hardly checked off any, and somehow Jets got bamboozled into drafting him high. But there's also a chance Rosen will get dumped by Eva Longoria because he sucks causing him to buttfumble.


There are three distinguishing similarities with Rosen and Sanchez: they are right-handed, played in the PAC-12, and their last names are two syllables.

In other words, they are not similar at all as prospects.
RE: RE: Rosen is the goods  
Jimmy Googs : 4/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
In comment 13907071 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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In comment 13907052 Jimmy Googs said:


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and will displace Eli this summer...



You mean displace him like water in his hot tub?


um...yeah?
Two Things...  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/9/2018 9:41 pm : link
As to Rosen's record at UCLA, it is wise to remember that Phil Simms was 1-10 at Morehead State! Second, Rosen is BIGGER than Sam Darnold. Three, had Rosen played for Oklahoma instead of Mayfield, his completion percentage would be close to 80% and Oklahoma would have won the National Championship.

Finally, all QBs are subject to injury. It is the rare bird that has a starting streak like Eli or Brett Favre -- and Favre was addicted to painkillers to make it happen. To discount Rosen bc you are afraid of injury is to suggest that you should be watching games of bridge, not football.
RE: Ö  
barens : 4/9/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 13906766 okayrene said:
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I think you have to like his resolve in the Texas A&M game. Down by 34 points. His offensive line was getting him killed the entire game. Outside of Lasley who is projected as a mid-to-late round guy, UCLA didn't really have any legitimate weapons. Yet, he somehow turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

USC game was really similar. USC should've won that game by a lot more than they did. I think Rosen was sacked 4 times by half and Darnold hadn't been touched. But he kept them in the game the whole time. They just came up short.

It just reminds me so much of Eli and how he carried Ole Miss.


I agree with this, though they had some decent offensive weapons, that game, and the A@M game in 2016 was also extremely impressive the way he brought his team back into that game against a much more difficult a@m defense, and in a hostile environment. They didnít get the W, but that game spoke volumes about Rosen.
I wish I knew where people get this idea from that only big winners  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/9/2018 10:25 pm : link
in college can be franchise QBs.
RE: I wish I knew where people get this idea from that only big winners  
bw in dc : 4/9/2018 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13907261 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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in college can be franchise QBs.


Wait - you haven't noticed all of the prolific franchise QBs that last decade from Alabama and Ohio State?
Health,maturity and leadership  
Marty866b : 4/9/2018 11:01 pm : link
Three very important traits to being a top NFL quarterback and Darnold has the edge on Rosen in at least two of the three, if not all three.
I like Rosen's skill set but his injuries and experts opinions of him being like Jay Cutler is a downer.
We have a head coach who is supposed to be a quarterback guru so I am fine with whoever he believes is the best fit for the Giants IF we go qb.
RE: Rosen looks great  
section125 : 4/9/2018 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13906862 JonC said:
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I'm just not sure the results were there at the collegiate level to really suggest he'll be great in the NFL. If we pick him I hope I'm dead wrong.


Well the only college QB that picked his team up consistently was Mayfield. Certainly not Darnold nor Allen. I know nothing about scouting QBs, but I can look at a group of players and pick out who seems to be the best, and Rosen looks the best.
Ask folks  
Joey in VA : 4/10/2018 12:23 am : link
What colleges they support before you weight their opinions. That's step #1 to uncover bias. Anyone "not seeing it" with Rosen doesn't understand the QB position or the passing game and how it works. It's almost too much to explain if you watch Josh Rosen and say "I don't see it". Well you should go watch Tennis or Golf then, he's a QB if you had to draw one up in a video game minus the running ability. His mechanics, awareness, play and protection changing at the college level are PhD like compared to the other QBs in this class. It's his frame and medicals that worry me, not one thing about his game does, not one.
RE: RE: RE: It seems like a lot of posters...  
giantstock : 4/10/2018 1:41 am : link
In comment 13906759 Tom from LI said:
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In comment 13906735 Thegratefulhead said:


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In comment 13906715 FatMan in Charlotte said:




Could not agree more.



And with all that being said Josh is still a 60% passer.

So easy to bash people on here without pointing out a game I should look at or some plays. I am asking what am I missing? I stated what I see. Receivers making adjustments more than I like to see. I don't see perfectly thrown balls with laser guided accuracy. I see an average QB that gets streaky. Maybe he is a lot like Eli in the way he plays. He sure as hell won't be as durable.







SO he has over a 60% completion rate yet for a portion of those throws you saw receivers making adjustments more than any other? Did you see every one of his throws vs the others you saw each and every one of their trows too?

The point is I doubt your expertise. I'm going with the stats.

1-- Thus it seems to me his 60%+ accuracy is real.

2-- He has a strong arm.

3-- He's comfortable in the pocket.

4-- His hand size is decent. The takeaway is that he doesn't have small hands.

5-- His team was awful without him. I think they were 1-7?
RE: Two Things...  
GiantGrit : 4/10/2018 2:47 am : link
In comment 13907230 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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As to Rosen's record at UCLA, it is wise to remember that Phil Simms was 1-10 at Morehead State! Second, Rosen is BIGGER than Sam Darnold. Three, had Rosen played for Oklahoma instead of Mayfield, his completion percentage would be close to 80% and Oklahoma would have won the National Championship.

Finally, all QBs are subject to injury. It is the rare bird that has a starting streak like Eli or Brett Favre -- and Favre was addicted to painkillers to make it happen. To discount Rosen bc you are afraid of injury is to suggest that you should be watching games of bridge, not football.



Agreed with all points but that Oklahoma comment. Mayfield was the best college quarterback last year. He was more accurate than Rosen. Neither guy was winning that team a championship because their defense was atrocious. Clearly based off this post (and others, iíll admit the guy is my draft crush) i really like Mayfield...that said, if Rosen can stay healthy i see him being phenomenal. Mayfieldís cockiness and Rosenís personality are not concerns provided they play well. Plenty of assholes play quarterback, but if you ball and you win no one says a word.
The big thing that doesn't stick out with Rosen  
JonC : 4/10/2018 8:04 am : link
are intangibles, and that's probably the thing that's generating some of the discomfort you hear on him, imo.

He's easy on the eyes in the pocket, I think that's also misleading to some when you watch him.

We shall see. I don't think the Giants pick him.
JonC  
Marty866b : 4/10/2018 8:28 am : link
Do you still believe that it's Darnold or another position?
Marty  
JonC : 4/10/2018 8:34 am : link
I'm still leaning that way but that's me, I still haven't heard a peep about QBs.
RE: Ask folks  
Thegratefulhead : 4/10/2018 9:18 am : link
In comment 13907318 Joey in VA said:
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What colleges they support before you weight their opinions. That's step #1 to uncover bias. Anyone "not seeing it" with Rosen doesn't understand the QB position or the passing game and how it works. It's almost too much to explain if you watch Josh Rosen and say "I don't see it". Well you should go watch Tennis or Golf then, he's a QB if you had to draw one up in a video game minus the running ability. His mechanics, awareness, play and protection changing at the college level are PhD like compared to the other QBs in this class. It's his frame and medicals that worry me, not one thing about his game does, not one.
Truth. His frame was bigger than expected at the combine. He is bigger than Darnold(surprised). I agree about the medicals. I managed a 3 physician practice for 11 years. IDGAF about our opinion of his medicala. We collectively do not know shit. If the Giants' doctors give him a pass after reviewing his medicals, I am good. None of us have actually seen his medicals nor do we have the expertise to evaluate them properly.
RE: The big thing that doesn't stick out with Rosen  
Thegratefulhead : 4/10/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 13907399 JonC said:
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are intangibles, and that's probably the thing that's generating some of the discomfort you hear on him, imo.

He's easy on the eyes in the pocket, I think that's also misleading to some when you watch him.

We shall see. I don't think the Giants pick him.
Who they pick vs who they should pick are 2 completely different debates. My issue with Darnold is the wind up. You can coach the shit out of him, he will fix it in camp. Put 300 pound defender stress in his face and I suspect he reverts to the old motion. The hand with drops too low, other than that, I love Darnold.
RE: RE: Ask folks  
bw in dc : 4/10/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13907474 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 13907318 Joey in VA said:


Truth. His frame was bigger than expected at the combine. He is bigger than Darnold(surprised). I agree about the medicals. I managed a 3 physician practice for 11 years. IDGAF about our opinion of his medicala. We collectively do not know shit. If the Giants' doctors give him a pass after reviewing his medicals, I am good. None of us have actually seen his medicals nor do we have the expertise to evaluate them properly.


But we do know Rosenís had multiple concussions - right? And in this day and age thatís a problem. The degree to which itís a problem we donít know. But youíd better be a sure as you can be because that would be a big miss on an investment designed to last for at least ten years.
JonC  
Marty866b : 4/10/2018 2:41 pm : link
Thanks. I figure that we have a qb guru coach, a qb guru OC,and if they think that one of these quarterbacks are worth the #2 pick, I am all in. I just hope that they aren't buying into that Eli has some real good years left or have all our future eggs on Webb.
RE: RE: RE: Ask folks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/10/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 13907506 bw in dc said:
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In comment 13907474 Thegratefulhead said:


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In comment 13907318 Joey in VA said:


Truth. His frame was bigger than expected at the combine. He is bigger than Darnold(surprised). I agree about the medicals. I managed a 3 physician practice for 11 years. IDGAF about our opinion of his medicala. We collectively do not know shit. If the Giants' doctors give him a pass after reviewing his medicals, I am good. None of us have actually seen his medicals nor do we have the expertise to evaluate them properly.



But we do know Rosenís had multiple concussions - right? And in this day and age thatís a problem. The degree to which itís a problem we donít know. But youíd better be a sure as you can be because that would be a big miss on an investment designed to last for at least ten years.


I'm not one to swear by the talking heads, but none of the professionals seem remotely as concerned as the people here about his concussions. You get a full medical workup as part of the draft process, and nothing, not even rumors of questions about his health came from it. His intelligence as a 'negative' has been a far more talked about issue.
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