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UEFA Champions League: City vs Liverpool

Gene : 4/10/2018 2:48 pm
Kicking off right now on Fox Sports 1.

Don't be surpised if City comes back from being down 0-3.
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Watched game in Spain  
George : 4/10/2018 4:41 pm : link
Lots of unhappy campers here. Except me, a Roma fan!
Who the hell is Firmino's dentist?  
bw in dc : 4/10/2018 4:41 pm : link
That guy has the whitest teeth on the planet.
So  
Joey in VA : 4/10/2018 4:47 pm : link
Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.
I was so nervous when this game began  
scouser : 4/10/2018 5:55 pm : link
Then City scores. I was not very happy. Talk about being tight. I was more nervous than a virgin on her wedding night. But they came through. Firmino scores a record tying 9th goal and Liverpool breaks ManU's scoring record. Now it's time for a little Ballantine's 17 year old. Lovely stuff. Up the Reds.
RE: So  
bw in dc : 4/10/2018 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13908272 Joey in VA said:
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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.


Well, both of their teams are going to win the EPL and La Liga, respectively. Basically guaranteed trophies right now... ;)
RE: So  
Jon in NYC : 4/10/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13908272 Joey in VA said:
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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.


Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Your winning Roma goal scored by Kostas Manolas  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/10/2018 7:47 pm : link
Best center back you've never heard of. Pretty sure Chelsea regrets taking Rudiger and not spending the extra money on #44.

Funny how things work out - was just remarking over the weekend how disinterested Manolas looks in Serie A compared to when he plays in the Champions League and definitely for the Greek National Team. Lo and behold, he scores and shuts out Barca.
Liverpool's back 4 won this quarterfinal with City  
dpinzow : 4/10/2018 8:50 pm : link
Lovren was immense tonight and has grown in confidence with VVD's arrival. Trent Alexander-Arnold was the best player on the pitch in the first leg and Andrew Robertson, the Scottish left back bought for 8 million pounds, didn't put a foot wrong against Sterling tonight
RE: People bitch and moan about Spurs being a one man team  
UESBLUE : 4/10/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13908193 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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With Pep even coming out and saying they are the Tottenham Harry Kane's, well the same can be said about this Liverpool team with Salah. He's carried them this season.

As someone who watches a lot of Spurs, I could very easily make the argument that Eriksen is actually their MVP.
Ericksen is a terrific player....  
bw in dc : 4/10/2018 10:52 pm : link
The guy can deliver the ball on a dime and a very dangerous free kick guy.

Very enjoyable to watch.
Pochettino is the most valuable person at Spurs imo  
moespree : 4/10/2018 11:45 pm : link
He leaves they will fall apart because their best players will want to go. As for today, I am glad. I really dislike Pep. He is good but I do wonder how good. He's lost some pretty big and important matches in his career. His away record in big matches is not good. In fact it sucks. And today at home. Pep has lost more home games in the last 6 weeks than Mourinho has lost at home in the last 2 years.

RE: RE: So  
Joey in VA : 4/11/2018 12:54 am : link
In comment 13908332 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13908272 Joey in VA said:


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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.



Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Raheem just got tossed by the club he left, you think he's tickled to win the EPL when his old club has a chance to take home UEFA glory? And Phil had NOTHING to do with a La Liga title and his team just shat itself out of UEFA. Good choices by both of those cowards, why fight to win when you can capitulate and earn nothing? They are both what is wrong with sports and both are licking their wounds and consoling themselves with bullshit domestic trophies. I want a club shooting for Europe and leaving nothing on the pitch than a couple of little whiny cunts who don't have the courage to stand and deliver. Yes I love Edward James Olmos, you rat finks. :)
Juve get one early  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/11/2018 2:57 pm : link
3-1 Real on aggregate
Sevilla  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/11/2018 2:57 pm : link
looking threatening early
If Dybala wasn't a moron in the first leg Juve would be in business  
Go Terps : 4/11/2018 3:06 pm : link
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Oh boy  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/11/2018 3:24 pm : link
2-0 Juve, they need one more to level this one up
RE: RE: RE: So  
Kyle in NY : 4/11/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13908842 Joey in VA said:
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In comment 13908272 Joey in VA said:


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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.



Raheem is about to win a trophy.

Raheem just got tossed by the club he left, you think he's tickled to win the EPL when his old club has a chance to take home UEFA glory? And Phil had NOTHING to do with a La Liga title and his team just shat itself out of UEFA. Good choices by both of those cowards, why fight to win when you can capitulate and earn nothing? They are both what is wrong with sports and both are licking their wounds and consoling themselves with bullshit domestic trophies. I want a club shooting for Europe and leaving nothing on the pitch than a couple of little whiny cunts who don't have the courage to stand and deliver. Yes I love Edward James Olmos, you rat finks. :)


Winning the league is still a great accomplishment and Raheem has had a fantastic season for one of the great sides in recent EPL history. (Only makes what Liverpool did the them all the more impressive).

Plus who knows if Salah is there if they still have Sterling. It worked out well for both sides.
Unreal  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/11/2018 4:05 pm : link
3-0 Juve
I have a feeling RM will hold on,...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 4:12 pm : link
but having them and Barca both lose large leads is pretty damn shocking.
Italy's World Cup Revenge  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/11/2018 4:13 pm : link
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Great save by Buffon  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/11/2018 4:26 pm : link
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this game has been so fun  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2018 4:33 pm : link
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Wow..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 4:36 pm : link
that looked to be a terrible call at first glance
I thought that was a Penalty for sure.  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2018 4:38 pm : link
but the red card is tough.
Sending Buffon..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 4:38 pm : link
off to boot.
RE: Sending Buffon..  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13909797 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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off to boot.


This, I did not like. I thought in real time and on replay that it was a penalty.
I agree..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 4:42 pm : link
on replay it looked like there was contact from behind.

In real time, to me, I thought it was a flop
I thought I was going to need an ambulance  
Big Rick in FL : 4/11/2018 4:45 pm : link
My heart is beating so fast. Wow. Benatia's physical play finally let Juve down. Juve fans are probably wishing he would have been sent off like he should have been.
Thatís a tough  
Pete in MD : 4/11/2018 4:45 pm : link
call at that point but RM was flopping all night. I donít think you can make that call right there.
Yeah, it was a pen. But Oliver should have given Buffon the opp  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2018 4:46 pm : link
to vent about that, given the circumstances. I mean, there's no worse way to lose for a team like Juve.
RE: RE: Sending Buffon..  
Big Rick in FL : 4/11/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13909799 Heisenberg said:
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off to boot.



This, I did not like. I thought in real time and on replay that it was a penalty.


He made contact with the ref multiple times. Cristiano got a red and a 5 game suspension for making contact with an official. Doesn't matter though. God wasn't saving that Cristiano penalty.
Juventus was stunningly good...  
bw in dc : 4/11/2018 4:47 pm : link
What a great effort.

Hate to see a game end that way.

A loss by RM would have been incredible set back for La Liga having both iconic teams succumb to historic comebacks...

Agree with RM flopping criticism. But, at the time I thought he fell  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2018 4:48 pm : link
forward with a speed that could only happen by being clobbered from behind and that's what it was on replay. It didn't look to me like he went to ground. He had the ball in front of him and wanted to score and got hammered from behind.
RE: Juventus was stunningly good...  
Big Rick in FL : 4/11/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13909813 bw in dc said:
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What a great effort.

Hate to see a game end that way.

A loss by RM would have been incredible set back for La Liga having both iconic teams succumb to historic comebacks...


Set back in what way?
RE: RE: Juventus was stunningly good...  
bw in dc : 4/11/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13909823 Big Rick in FL said:
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Set back in what way?


Giving up 3 goal advantages heading into the second leg.
If it had..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 4:58 pm : link
been Robben I'd still be screaming that it was a flop!!!!
Yeah there's no way it would be a setback  
Go Terps : 4/11/2018 4:59 pm : link
I heard a stat recently that I can't remember perfectly, but La Liga has won something like 27 of the last 35 European trophies.

I know people like the EPL, and I'd agree that league has mastered how the product is presented in terms of the quality of the stadia and on TV. But in terms of the quality of the football, La Liga is ahead of everyone by quite a bit.
RE: RE: RE: Juventus was stunningly good...  
Big Rick in FL : 4/11/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13909831 bw in dc said:
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Set back in what way?



Giving up 3 goal advantages heading into the second leg.


Yeah I understand that, but how would it be a set back for La Liga? It would have sucked, but I don't think a set back for an entire league. Especially one that had 3 teams in the quarterfinals. Real Madrid has won more UCL in the last 4 years then most teams have in their history. Also La Liga teams have won 4 straight.
I think Bayern  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
has to have the edge in the final four. The most complete team imo, although some of their players are getting older.
Just saw the highlights  
Go Terps : 4/11/2018 6:19 pm : link
I don't think that's a penalty. I don't necessarily think it's a dive, but in that kind of situation I'd rather the ref swallow his whistle. It's a contact sport.
RE: I think Bayern  
dpinzow : 4/11/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13909853 Jon in NYC said:
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has to have the edge in the final four. The most complete team imo, although some of their players are getting older.


Liverpool at Anfield is beastly
Gene  
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RE: I think Bayern  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/11/2018 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13909853 Jon in NYC said:
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has to have the edge in the final four. The most complete team imo, although some of their players are getting older.


I don't see it that way - I don't think anyone really knows how good Bayern actually is. Bundesliga is weak this year and they've gotten a pretty clean trip to the semis. Roster is stacked but they still need the 30 year olds to get the job done.
Oliver is a good official  
moespree : 4/11/2018 10:32 pm : link
I think it was a good call personally, and I commend him for having the balls to call it in that spot. Buffon's post match argument of a ref can't ruin a game that was played so hard, is stupid. What's the ref supposed to do? Hey I think that was a penalty but because you played so hard today I'm not going to call it?

Juventus is a tough, experienced team. I'm surprised they did as well as they did today actually, but they're a tough out.
moespree  
cosmicj : 4/12/2018 12:31 pm : link
I agree. Lucas was mugged and I actually think Benatia should have been given a yellow at the least for what he did. On a human level, I can't really blame Buffon for losing his mind at the call, but in terms of officiating, the fact that he was showing the official made ejection necessary.
Now on to the real matters at hand:  
cosmicj : 4/12/2018 12:32 pm : link
1) Should Cristiano have taken off his shirt after the pentlty kick?

2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.
RE: Now on to the real matters at hand:  
Go Terps : 4/12/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13911183 cosmicj said:
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1) Should Cristiano have taken off his shirt after the pentlty kick?

2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.


Gonna be very tough to beat Real. I actually think the one team that can do it is Liverpool.

Real has a weak link in a really bad spot: Casemiro. Considering the attacking talent around him he can stupidly get caught way up field, and he can be prone to a bad decision when he's in possession in the midfield. That's a bad mix against a team that presses as high and as vigorously as Liverpool.

Real is the heavy favorite, but I'd be interested to see them at Anfield. They're not as defensively sound as Man City is.
I think Liverpool can beat them  
moespree : 4/12/2018 12:45 pm : link
Madrid showed some vulnerability handling the pressing of Tottenham in the group stages. Klopp doesn't press exactly the same way as Pochettino but it's not far off either. Madrid was not used to that and it showed. Their defenders in particular when on the ball and being pressed had difficulty getting the ball up to the midfielders. But of course the group stages are different than where we are now.

I'd say another thing going for Liverpool is they can score anywhere. It will not be easy to shut them down in the away leg. I don't know how many they can score at Madrid, but score there I think they can and would.
The thing with Madrid, though,  
Go Terps : 4/12/2018 1:02 pm : link
is that you have to be on for 90 minutes with them (or 180 over two legs). They've got more talent and depth than any team in the world, and about 10-15 players that can provide a moment of genius that results in a goal against the run of play. They come at you in waves...it's like the Giants' defensive line in 2007. They are no fun to play against.
How much is Madrid going to offer for De Gea?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 4/12/2018 1:52 pm : link
Seriously. 100M is the floor, right?
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