If they sit back and try to defend they'll be counting on Man City missing their chances.
Unrelated, today is a big day for MLS, as Toronto FC and RBNY have a shot to make the CONCACAF Champions League final an all MLS affair. That would be a big commentary on where MLS is related to Liga MX. It would be a big step.
In situations when goals are needed his teams can generate endless crossing opportunities, but those crosses end up targeting a striker who is tiny like Gabriel Jesus. I always wondered what he'd be able to do if he had a huge striker to provide the Plan B option to convert these crosses.
Moments after Silva raps one solidly off the post, City have a goal by Sane called back for offside. Think it was the wrong call.
When a player is behind the goalkeeper, there needs to be two opposition players between them and the goal when the ball is played forward. Offside is always misconstrued as being in line with the last defender, but the actual law states the attacker needs to be in line with the second last defender (the goalkeeper being the last defender)
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any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
This issue is that you can’t be played offsides by a player on the other team. If the ball came off Milner (not really debatable), and Milner intentionally played the ball, Sane doesn’t need any players between him and the goal.
People bitch and moan about Spurs being a one man team Â
With Pep even coming out and saying they are the Tottenham Harry Kane's, well the same can be said about this Liverpool team with Salah. He's carried them this season.
Moments after Silva raps one solidly off the post, City have a goal by Sane called back for offside. Think it was the wrong call.
When a player is behind the goalkeeper, there needs to be two opposition players between them and the goal when the ball is played forward. Offside is always misconstrued as being in line with the last defender, but the actual law states the attacker needs to be in line with the second last defender (the goalkeeper being the last defender)
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any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
But the way I saw it Sane was on side on the original cross. Karious (sp?) punched the ball out and it deflected back toward Sane off a Liverpool player (Milner?). With that the case, shouldn't it have been legal?
One of two things happened. Either the linesman thought the ball was played back in by Jesus, or they determined that Milner did not deliberately play the ball.
One of two things happened. Either the linesman thought the ball was played back in by Jesus, or they determined that Milner did not deliberately play the ball.
Thanks for the explanation. Probably a moot point with the Salah goal, but the post game presser ought to be interesting. I'm not calling shenanigans, but evidently Pep and this ref have a bit of a history.
As a Spain fan today is a good day. The Barcelona players will enter the World Cup with some rest. So will Silva. Just like in 2010. Now if Juve can score four at the Bernabeu...
Then City scores. I was not very happy. Talk about being tight. I was more nervous than a virgin on her wedding night. But they came through. Firmino scores a record tying 9th goal and Liverpool breaks ManU's scoring record. Now it's time for a little Ballantine's 17 year old. Lovely stuff. Up the Reds.
Best center back you've never heard of. Pretty sure Chelsea regrets taking Rudiger and not spending the extra money on #44.
Funny how things work out - was just remarking over the weekend how disinterested Manolas looks in Serie A compared to when he plays in the Champions League and definitely for the Greek National Team. Lo and behold, he scores and shuts out Barca.
Liverpool's back 4 won this quarterfinal with City Â
Lovren was immense tonight and has grown in confidence with VVD's arrival. Trent Alexander-Arnold was the best player on the pitch in the first leg and Andrew Robertson, the Scottish left back bought for 8 million pounds, didn't put a foot wrong against Sterling tonight
RE: People bitch and moan about Spurs being a one man team Â
With Pep even coming out and saying they are the Tottenham Harry Kane's, well the same can be said about this Liverpool team with Salah. He's carried them this season.
As someone who watches a lot of Spurs, I could very easily make the argument that Eriksen is actually their MVP.
He leaves they will fall apart because their best players will want to go. As for today, I am glad. I really dislike Pep. He is good but I do wonder how good. He's lost some pretty big and important matches in his career. His away record in big matches is not good. In fact it sucks. And today at home. Pep has lost more home games in the last 6 weeks than Mourinho has lost at home in the last 2 years.
Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.
Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Raheem just got tossed by the club he left, you think he's tickled to win the EPL when his old club has a chance to take home UEFA glory? And Phil had NOTHING to do with a La Liga title and his team just shat itself out of UEFA. Good choices by both of those cowards, why fight to win when you can capitulate and earn nothing? They are both what is wrong with sports and both are licking their wounds and consoling themselves with bullshit domestic trophies. I want a club shooting for Europe and leaving nothing on the pitch than a couple of little whiny cunts who don't have the courage to stand and deliver. Yes I love Edward James Olmos, you rat finks. :)
Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.
Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Raheem just got tossed by the club he left, you think he's tickled to win the EPL when his old club has a chance to take home UEFA glory? And Phil had NOTHING to do with a La Liga title and his team just shat itself out of UEFA. Good choices by both of those cowards, why fight to win when you can capitulate and earn nothing? They are both what is wrong with sports and both are licking their wounds and consoling themselves with bullshit domestic trophies. I want a club shooting for Europe and leaving nothing on the pitch than a couple of little whiny cunts who don't have the courage to stand and deliver. Yes I love Edward James Olmos, you rat finks. :)
Winning the league is still a great accomplishment and Raheem has had a fantastic season for one of the great sides in recent EPL history. (Only makes what Liverpool did the them all the more impressive).
Plus who knows if Salah is there if they still have Sterling. It worked out well for both sides.
My heart is beating so fast. Wow. Benatia's physical play finally let Juve down. Juve fans are probably wishing he would have been sent off like he should have been.
This, I did not like. I thought in real time and on replay that it was a penalty.
He made contact with the ref multiple times. Cristiano got a red and a 5 game suspension for making contact with an official. Doesn't matter though. God wasn't saving that Cristiano penalty.
forward with a speed that could only happen by being clobbered from behind and that's what it was on replay. It didn't look to me like he went to ground. He had the ball in front of him and wanted to score and got hammered from behind.
I heard a stat recently that I can't remember perfectly, but La Liga has won something like 27 of the last 35 European trophies.
I know people like the EPL, and I'd agree that league has mastered how the product is presented in terms of the quality of the stadia and on TV. But in terms of the quality of the football, La Liga is ahead of everyone by quite a bit.
Giving up 3 goal advantages heading into the second leg.
Yeah I understand that, but how would it be a set back for La Liga? It would have sucked, but I don't think a set back for an entire league. Especially one that had 3 teams in the quarterfinals. Real Madrid has won more UCL in the last 4 years then most teams have in their history. Also La Liga teams have won 4 straight.
I don't think that's a penalty. I don't necessarily think it's a dive, but in that kind of situation I'd rather the ref swallow his whistle. It's a contact sport.
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has to have the edge in the final four. The most complete team imo, although some of their players are getting older.
I don't see it that way - I don't think anyone really knows how good Bayern actually is. Bundesliga is weak this year and they've gotten a pretty clean trip to the semis. Roster is stacked but they still need the 30 year olds to get the job done.
I think it was a good call personally, and I commend him for having the balls to call it in that spot. Buffon's post match argument of a ref can't ruin a game that was played so hard, is stupid. What's the ref supposed to do? Hey I think that was a penalty but because you played so hard today I'm not going to call it?
Juventus is a tough, experienced team. I'm surprised they did as well as they did today actually, but they're a tough out.
I agree. Lucas was mugged and I actually think Benatia should have been given a yellow at the least for what he did. On a human level, I can't really blame Buffon for losing his mind at the call, but in terms of officiating, the fact that he was showing the official made ejection necessary.
1) Should Cristiano have taken off his shirt after the pentlty kick?
2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.
1) Should Cristiano have taken off his shirt after the pentlty kick?
2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.
Gonna be very tough to beat Real. I actually think the one team that can do it is Liverpool.
Real has a weak link in a really bad spot: Casemiro. Considering the attacking talent around him he can stupidly get caught way up field, and he can be prone to a bad decision when he's in possession in the midfield. That's a bad mix against a team that presses as high and as vigorously as Liverpool.
Real is the heavy favorite, but I'd be interested to see them at Anfield. They're not as defensively sound as Man City is.
Madrid showed some vulnerability handling the pressing of Tottenham in the group stages. Klopp doesn't press exactly the same way as Pochettino but it's not far off either. Madrid was not used to that and it showed. Their defenders in particular when on the ball and being pressed had difficulty getting the ball up to the midfielders. But of course the group stages are different than where we are now.
I'd say another thing going for Liverpool is they can score anywhere. It will not be easy to shut them down in the away leg. I don't know how many they can score at Madrid, but score there I think they can and would.
is that you have to be on for 90 minutes with them (or 180 over two legs). They've got more talent and depth than any team in the world, and about 10-15 players that can provide a moment of genius that results in a goal against the run of play. They come at you in waves...it's like the Giants' defensive line in 2007. They are no fun to play against.
That being said, City -1.5 odds were way too good to pass up
Unrelated, today is a big day for MLS, as Toronto FC and RBNY have a shot to make the CONCACAF Champions League final an all MLS affair. That would be a big commentary on where MLS is related to Liga MX. It would be a big step.
Pep's doing his job today, but I don't know if the players will do theirs as long as De Bruyne keeps playing in such a withdrawn role.
When a player is behind the goalkeeper, there needs to be two opposition players between them and the goal when the ball is played forward. Offside is always misconstrued as being in line with the last defender, but the actual law states the attacker needs to be in line with the second last defender (the goalkeeper being the last defender)
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Moments after Silva raps one solidly off the post, City have a goal by Sane called back for offside. Think it was the wrong call.
When a player is behind the goalkeeper, there needs to be two opposition players between them and the goal when the ball is played forward. Offside is always misconstrued as being in line with the last defender, but the actual law states the attacker needs to be in line with the second last defender (the goalkeeper being the last defender)
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any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
But the way I saw it Sane was on side on the original cross. Karious (sp?) punched the ball out and it deflected back toward Sane off a Liverpool player (Milner?). With that the case, shouldn't it have been legal?
Thanks for the explanation. Probably a moot point with the Salah goal, but the post game presser ought to be interesting. I'm not calling shenanigans, but evidently Pep and this ref have a bit of a history.
Could have happened last round if Chelsea had an ounce of finishing ability
What an outstanding player.
Well, both of their teams are going to win the EPL and La Liga, respectively. Basically guaranteed trophies right now... ;)
Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Funny how things work out - was just remarking over the weekend how disinterested Manolas looks in Serie A compared to when he plays in the Champions League and definitely for the Greek National Team. Lo and behold, he scores and shuts out Barca.
As someone who watches a lot of Spurs, I could very easily make the argument that Eriksen is actually their MVP.
Very enjoyable to watch.
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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.
Raheem is about to win a trophy.
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Raheem leaves for Man City to win trophies, Phil goes to Barca to win trophies. Meanwhile their old club moves to the Semis while they both go home.
Raheem is about to win a trophy.
Raheem just got tossed by the club he left, you think he's tickled to win the EPL when his old club has a chance to take home UEFA glory? And Phil had NOTHING to do with a La Liga title and his team just shat itself out of UEFA. Good choices by both of those cowards, why fight to win when you can capitulate and earn nothing? They are both what is wrong with sports and both are licking their wounds and consoling themselves with bullshit domestic trophies. I want a club shooting for Europe and leaving nothing on the pitch than a couple of little whiny cunts who don't have the courage to stand and deliver. Yes I love Edward James Olmos, you rat finks. :)
Winning the league is still a great accomplishment and Raheem has had a fantastic season for one of the great sides in recent EPL history. (Only makes what Liverpool did the them all the more impressive).
Plus who knows if Salah is there if they still have Sterling. It worked out well for both sides.
This, I did not like. I thought in real time and on replay that it was a penalty.
In real time, to me, I thought it was a flop
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This, I did not like. I thought in real time and on replay that it was a penalty.
He made contact with the ref multiple times. Cristiano got a red and a 5 game suspension for making contact with an official. Doesn't matter though. God wasn't saving that Cristiano penalty.
Hate to see a game end that way.
A loss by RM would have been incredible set back for La Liga having both iconic teams succumb to historic comebacks...
Hate to see a game end that way.
A loss by RM would have been incredible set back for La Liga having both iconic teams succumb to historic comebacks...
Set back in what way?
Set back in what way?
Giving up 3 goal advantages heading into the second leg.
I know people like the EPL, and I'd agree that league has mastered how the product is presented in terms of the quality of the stadia and on TV. But in terms of the quality of the football, La Liga is ahead of everyone by quite a bit.
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Set back in what way?
Giving up 3 goal advantages heading into the second leg.
Yeah I understand that, but how would it be a set back for La Liga? It would have sucked, but I don't think a set back for an entire league. Especially one that had 3 teams in the quarterfinals. Real Madrid has won more UCL in the last 4 years then most teams have in their history. Also La Liga teams have won 4 straight.
Liverpool at Anfield is beastly
I don't see it that way - I don't think anyone really knows how good Bayern actually is. Bundesliga is weak this year and they've gotten a pretty clean trip to the semis. Roster is stacked but they still need the 30 year olds to get the job done.
Juventus is a tough, experienced team. I'm surprised they did as well as they did today actually, but they're a tough out.
2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.
2) Can anyone really beat Real? I like their odds to win a third straight European title. I will say that Boateng's return has made the Bayern defense absolutely suffocating. Maybe they can pull it off.
Gonna be very tough to beat Real. I actually think the one team that can do it is Liverpool.
Real has a weak link in a really bad spot: Casemiro. Considering the attacking talent around him he can stupidly get caught way up field, and he can be prone to a bad decision when he's in possession in the midfield. That's a bad mix against a team that presses as high and as vigorously as Liverpool.
Real is the heavy favorite, but I'd be interested to see them at Anfield. They're not as defensively sound as Man City is.
I'd say another thing going for Liverpool is they can score anywhere. It will not be easy to shut them down in the away leg. I don't know how many they can score at Madrid, but score there I think they can and would.