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Mr. Nickels : 4/11/2018 3:15 pm
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"Several people I've spoken with speculated the #Giants & #Bills likely have a blueprint in place for a trade." -- NFL draft insider Tony Pauline (@DraftAnalyst1) http://draftanalyst.com/nfl-draft-news-notes-april-11 Ö

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RE: The bills  
old man : 4/11/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13909668 The Dude said:
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somehow have let out to the media that they are desperate, if you want to to trade out of #2..hold them hostage or take the BPA.

for starters:

2018 two first
2018 two seconds
2018 3rd
2019 first
2019 third


I've said it before: if Buffalo offers up their 2 firsts, the 2 2nds, and the '19 first, their fans will put a contract out on Beane.
RE: RE: oh the hell with that  
AnishPatel : 4/11/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13909654 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 13909646 Greg from LI said:


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The Bills would make an awful trading partner. Moving down from 2 to 12 sucks.



Thatís where we took Beckham..:)

Agreed though.. No lower than 5 or 6 imo


I hope we dont trade down that far. Pick 5 is fine but i dont want to go down pick 12.
If you recall...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
I said from the start that I'm sure the Giants were listening seriously to offer. I also was of the opinion that they should wait until they are nearly on the clock (or on the clock) to make a trade.
Solid speculation  
AcesUp : 4/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
If the rumors are true that the only QB the Giants like is Darnold and the Bills are high on Allen, it makes sense for both parties to have a trade on the table in the event that the Browns take the Giants guy and pass over the Bills guy.

The drop to 12 is fine, any trade with the Bills is likely to bring in the type of haul that would allow the Giants to move back into the top 10 at will for a "blue chipper".
remember  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/11/2018 5:06 pm : link
You can trade back up again.
Wow  
Mike from Ohio : 4/11/2018 5:10 pm : link
There is a lot of nonsense posted on this thread masquerading as inside information and analysis.
RE: Wow  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13909859 Mike from Ohio said:
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There is a lot of nonsense posted on this thread masquerading as inside information and analysis.


Welcome to BBI
why not have the bills trade up twice, vs having the giants  
CMicks3110 : 4/11/2018 5:13 pm : link
trade back and then trade up again. I feel like the bills should be the ones leveraging everything, not the giants, if they want allen. Have the Bills trade up to 4, and then the Giants can trade back to 4 with the bills. Bills give cleveland 12, 22, and additional picks, and bills give Giants 4, 2nd rounder and 1st rounder in 2019.
Fun to speculate  
Peppers : 4/11/2018 5:20 pm : link
But It's not much more than that at this point..

Odds are that with such a huge haul  
idiotsavant : 4/11/2018 5:22 pm : link
Within the first 3 rounds one of them will be your blue goose anyway.

So that's a push.

Then: Your getting an additional pile to hit those inflection or synergy points. So, if as old man says, I'm down. (Expression of affirmation)
Could the trade work like this?  
simbapenn : 4/11/2018 5:24 pm : link
Every one is writing like the trade has to happen pre-draft picks. But the Giants could pick a QB both they and the Bills like, then have contingencies in place depending on who is there when the Bills draft. Basically the Bills would draft who the Giants want and then the trade happens after the Bills pick for the Giants. If guy X is there then send these Y picks. If guy Z is there then send Y picks AND another pick. If the value isn't there then the trade is off and the Giants happily keep the QB or find another partner.

The Eli/Rivers trade was a swap post draft picks. The Chargers almost certainly chose Rivers for the Giants to pick. If you watch the video, right after Eli is picked, Sal Palantonio says if Rivers is there at 4 for the Giants, there would be discussions for a trade. Mort then says after the Rivers pick that he had heard the Giants had Roethlisberger rated higher than Rivers, intimating he was the Giants' pick in name only. The trade is then announced right after the next pick (Sean Taylor) so I assume the deal was done ahead of time.

To me, this is the likeliest scenario since so much can happen between picks 2 and 12.
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RE: RE: Fuck that!  
DonnieD89 : 4/11/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13909826 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 13909769 DonnieD89 said:


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I'm sick of hearing about moving to 12. it just increases the risk of bust trading down that far. Quality over quantity is preferred. Can't guarantee Buffalo's 2019 1st pick will be a high 1st rounder. Trading down to #6 is more palatable.



Hmmm... Your post just assumes there is no BUST chance at 2.. That is a huge false belief...


Itís about probability my friend. You canít pass up on blue chippers in the top six. We are decreasing the potential of getting an impact player. You can do better with trading down to five or six. Number 12 is no manís land. This is about probability. Not truth or fallacies. Canít wait for an impact player at 12 or below.
RE: Is the difference between #2 and #12 that big?  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/11/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13909672 Go Terps said:
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Look at all the dissenting opinions on the quarterbacks...would that be the case if one of the quarterbacks was John Elway? Maybe none of the QBs are blue chips?

If Elway was coming out this year instead of 1983, absolutely. It's a product of the modern media landscape every bit as much as the prospects themselves, IMO.

Elway would be characterized as a diva who wants to demand where he plays, and one who might choose baseball over football. And it would be repeated over and over and over again on every media and social media platform. For all we know, had EA not had a massive man-crush on Elway in spite of that, those concerns could very well have caused a different FO to pass on Elway even in 1983.

The other factor is that dissenting opinions don't necessarily have to translate to negatives; that's just the way we've been trained to argue (on any topic). Even people who believe in this QB class tend to have a preference for a particular prospect, and there becomes a tendency to knock the other prospects in support of the one that someone likes. It's a lazy shortcut to forming an argument, and one that we're all guilty of at times. Just because one QB is not head and shoulders above the others doesn't mean that they might not all be great (although that's statistically unlikely, of course).
RE: Trade down interests me  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/11/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13909691 jvm52106 said:
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because:

1) We have committed to ELi, traded for a LB, signed a VET LT, signed a VET RB and seem to be trying to make one more run.
2) Our depth in many areas is weak and our starters in a couple of areas need help
3) Drafting a QB just because makes no sense. If the Giants don't think that guy is head above all others then we need players who can contribute now.

Loading up to win now is not a bad idea while also rebuilding depth that has been depleted due to shitty drafts in the recent past.

If you honestly believe that Jonathan freaking Stewart signals that we're trying to load up to make one more run, I have a bridge to sell you.
Giants  
Dragon : 4/11/2018 5:51 pm : link
Trade out of the second position with the Browns who select Darnold with the 1st pick someone both teams reportedly love. The Browns select Barkley or Chubb both exceptional value at pick number 2. The Giants receive the Browns 2nd, second round pick, 4th round pick in 2018 and a third round pick in 2019. The Jets at three select one of Rosen, Allen or Mayfield they are the Jets no one knows what they will do.

The Giants are back on the clock at four with a choice combination of these four Allen, Rosen, Barkley and Chubb. Itís time to go BPA or are the phones still ringing loudly IMO itís sell to the highest bidder time. Three teams are showing signs of QB desperation Broncos, Dolphins and Bills. The Bills seem the most desperate and desperate teams looking for a franchise QB well there desperate. Franchise means your hoping this guy will play for you for the next 10-12 years. In the end the request is the Bills two 1st round picks, a third round pick in 2018, a second and fourth round pick in 2019.

The Giants would have two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, three third round picks, 2 fourth round picks and one fifth round pick in the 2018 draft. Depending on the OBJ, Oliver, Collins, Jenkins, Apple and Flowers possible trades they could change the future and face of the team. In
addition they would have acquired a second, third and fourth round picks for 2019 draft.
RE: Giants  
simbapenn : 4/11/2018 6:25 pm : link
In comment 13909916 Dragon said:
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Trade out of the second position with the Browns who select Darnold with the 1st pick someone both teams reportedly love. The Browns select Barkley or Chubb both exceptional value at pick number 2. The Jets at three select one of Rosen, Allen or Mayfield they are the Jets no one knows what they will do.


Why would the Browns trade up when in you own scenario (and reality) either Chubb or Barkley will be there at 4 anyways?
RE: remember  
Dankbeerman : 4/11/2018 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13909855 Eric from BBI said:
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You can trade back up again.


I think its very possible to trade to 12 netting 3 1st round picks plus and then slide back up to 8 without giving up a 1 or our original 2.

Chicago is rebuilding and need to add multiple pieces.
I am firmly in the QB  
Keith : 4/11/2018 6:36 pm : link
or trade down camp. I think ideally, Iíd like to go as far back as 6, but a trade w the bills would set us up big time. They seem desperate and two firsts plus their first next year would be a haul! Like Eric said, you can always trade back up too.
RE: remember  
jlukes : 4/11/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13909855 Eric from BBI said:
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You can trade back up again.


So much this
RE: remember  
section125 : 4/11/2018 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13909855 Eric from BBI said:
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You can trade back up again.


Yeah, right. You need to find somebody that wants to trade down. Isn't that easy and may cost a lot.
I will debunk 2 of those Giants win now narratives  
twostepgiants : 4/11/2018 7:03 pm : link
The Giants traded for a LB

The Giants traded for a 26 year old Alec Ogletree. How is this a win-now and not a rebuild move?

heís 26! The guy can man the LB position for 4-8 years. Who knows.

Heís a building block for a new foundation.

the Giants committed to Eli.

How so? All they did was not release him. he has a 2 year contract. The broncos just signed Keenan for 2 years, have they committed to him? Why do we people think they will still go QB then? Or maybe even trade up for one?

If the Giants traded or released Eli - they would have needed to sign a vet QB. All the teams drafting QB did so. Denver, browns & Jets. Cards as well. They committed 3rd round draft choices. Huge contracts like 20 mil. Jets have a combined 15 mil at least in McCown/Teddy maybe more. They would have really hurt themselves this year to release Eli (gaining 10 mil) only to need to sign one of these guys as a replacement (McCown got 10). Thereís basically no way the Giants gain by releasing him.Why not keep him this year and release next year when the new QB is ready and you can use that 10 mil on a different spot.

Ive mentioned numerous times that a 30 yr Solder LT signing is not evidence of either rebuild or reload. Giants will get 4 years of solid play through his contract here and a be a solid LT for about 3 years of the new QBs time. (Rams inked 36 yr old LT tfor their rookie QB)

BTW- you are also ignoring the JPP trade, DRC release, etc.

You dont need all ďpotentialĒ and super young guys to rebuild and start cutting or trading all your good players. Thats not what the 2004 Giants did.
RE: I will debunk 2 of those Giants win now narratives  
BleedBlue : 4/11/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13909975 twostepgiants said:
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The Giants traded for a LB

The Giants traded for a 26 year old Alec Ogletree. How is this a win-now and not a rebuild move?

heís 26! The guy can man the LB position for 4-8 years. Who knows.

Heís a building block for a new foundation.

the Giants committed to Eli.

How so? All they did was not release him. he has a 2 year contract. The broncos just signed Keenan for 2 years, have they committed to him? Why do we people think they will still go QB then? Or maybe even trade up for one?

If the Giants traded or released Eli - they would have needed to sign a vet QB. All the teams drafting QB did so. Denver, browns & Jets. Cards as well. They committed 3rd round draft choices. Huge contracts like 20 mil. Jets have a combined 15 mil at least in McCown/Teddy maybe more. They would have really hurt themselves this year to release Eli (gaining 10 mil) only to need to sign one of these guys as a replacement (McCown got 10). Thereís basically no way the Giants gain by releasing him.Why not keep him this year and release next year when the new QB is ready and you can use that 10 mil on a different spot.

Ive mentioned numerous times that a 30 yr Solder LT signing is not evidence of either rebuild or reload. Giants will get 4 years of solid play through his contract here and a be a solid LT for about 3 years of the new QBs time. (Rams inked 36 yr old LT tfor their rookie QB)

BTW- you are also ignoring the JPP trade, DRC release, etc.

You dont need all ďpotentialĒ and super young guys to rebuild and start cutting or trading all your good players. Thats not what the 2004 Giants did.



giants are win now while retooling...

we can win now with what we have if we have a strong draft. we are a season removed from 11-5...say what you want but winning 11 games isnt easy in todays NFL.

our moves dont have a ton to do with #2. we could go barkley, we could go Darnold/Rosen....either way we are getting a heck of a football player
RE: Solid speculation  
GFAN52 : 4/11/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13909854 AcesUp said:
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If the rumors are true that the only QB the Giants like is Darnold and the Bills are high on Allen, it makes sense for both parties to have a trade on the table in the event that the Browns take the Giants guy and pass over the Bills guy.

The drop to 12 is fine, any trade with the Bills is likely to bring in the type of haul that would allow the Giants to move back into the top 10 at will for a "blue chipper".


You can certainly try to move back into the top 10, but there's no guarantee a team is willing to trade out.
That blueprint  
illmatic : 4/11/2018 7:34 pm : link
better involve a 2019 first rounder which could end up being very high.
So Gettleman is confiding in all of these people...  
EricJ : 4/11/2018 7:56 pm : link
who run to the media and reveal what our plans are?
Does anyone really think that there is any truth to that at all?

99% of the supposed "inside information" has turned out to be bullshit and all we do is continue to fall for this nonsense.

These reporters are like a weather man who calls for both rain and sunny skies at the same time. Throw enough shit against the wall and you are eventually going to guess right on something.
Eric,  
Keith : 4/11/2018 7:59 pm : link
I guess itís possible that the whispers are coming from the bills side.
RE: So Gettleman is confiding in all of these people...  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13910052 EricJ said:
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who run to the media and reveal what our plans are?
Does anyone really think that there is any truth to that at all?

99% of the supposed "inside information" has turned out to be bullshit and all we do is continue to fall for this nonsense.

These reporters are like a weather man who calls for both rain and sunny skies at the same time. Throw enough shit against the wall and you are eventually going to guess right on something.


I am sure gettleman has talked to a lot of teams about trading down..

Also releasing this makes other teams feel like they have to ante up as well
RE: Eric,  
EricJ : 4/11/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13910055 Keith said:
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I guess itís possible that the whispers are coming from the bills side.


The only thing I will say is this...
A brilliant move on our part would be to put false information out there that we are talking seriously to the Bills for them to get the #2 pick. Doing that could force one of the teams in front of the Bills to pay a much higher price to block the Bills. The best scenario is for that team to be the Jets.

All of that said, it makes zero sense for any team to trade with us until after they see who the Browns select at #1. Not unless one of these teams covets two guys and they would be happy with either.
RE: RE: I will debunk 2 of those Giants win now narratives  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/11/2018 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13909980 BleedBlue said:
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giants are win now while retooling...

we can win now with what we have if we have a strong draft. we are a season removed from 11-5...say what you want but winning 11 games isnt easy in todays NFL.

our moves dont have a ton to do with #2. we could go barkley, we could go Darnold/Rosen....either way we are getting a heck of a football player

We've lost 10 or more games in 3 of the past 4 years. Say what you want, but 11 wins looks an awful lot like an anomaly.
Andrew Whitworth having a career season at that age is a wild outlier  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/11/2018 8:12 pm : link
Most guys are done by his age.
Gfan  
AcesUp : 4/11/2018 8:12 pm : link
No guarantee, but pretty close. Unless a QB is in play, teams are usually looking to move down and the Giants would have the ammo to be pretty convincing.
RE: RE: If  
Reale01 : 4/11/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13909674 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 13909663 Mr. Nickels said:


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broncos or colts are involved first as a stepping stone won't they take away valuable picks from us? Would we simply take next year's 1st to swamp from 2 to 5 or 6? Why wouldn't Denver or the Colts demand next year's 1st to trade down from 5 or 6 to 12?



If Buffalo gives both 12 and 22 to get to 5 then they could trade the 5 plus a 2nd and 3rd to us to drop from 2 to 5.

If we picked at 5, two 2nd's and three 3rd's and we have something cooking.



That's the right thinking. I think we would get more. I would say that 12 and 21 would get the Bills to #5 or #6. Then I would want the 5 or 6 plus two #2 and a 2019 #1.

That would give us a stud player (Nelson, Chubb, Fitz, Barkley) plus three #2 picks and two #3. Two #1 next year could help to get us a QB if it all falls apart this year.
The magic number is #4  
SHO'NUFF : 4/11/2018 8:27 pm : link
it will ensure we get Barkley or Chubb...#5 guarantees that we get the leftovers from Barkley/Chubb.
RE: RE: Eric,  
Eman11 : 4/11/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13910072 EricJ said:
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In comment 13910055 Keith said:


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I guess itís possible that the whispers are coming from the bills side.



The only thing I will say is this...
A brilliant move on our part would be to put false information out there that we are talking seriously to the Bills for them to get the #2 pick. Doing that could force one of the teams in front of the Bills to pay a much higher price to block the Bills. The best scenario is for that team to be the Jets.

All of that said, it makes zero sense for any team to trade with us until after they see who the Browns select at #1. Not unless one of these teams covets two guys and they would be happy with either.


Totally agree with you. It would be a great move if DG could get the Jets #1 next year plus whatever else to drop back a spot to #3 if he doesn't want a QB.

Then possibly leverage Buffalo against Denver for the #3 pick if they want a QB, and end up at #5.
RE: Gfan  
GFAN52 : 4/11/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13910086 AcesUp said:
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No guarantee, but pretty close. Unless a QB is in play, teams are usually looking to move down and the Giants would have the ammo to be pretty convincing.


Again, there are so many variables in terms of players slipping that those teams in the top ten may well chose to stay where they are. Possible sure, probable hard to say.
RE: remember  
WillVAB : 4/11/2018 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13909855 Eric from BBI said:
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You can trade back up again.


Yep, but not in the way people are thinking. A trade down w the bills would net enough of a return to trade up late in the first and end up with 3 first rounders this year while still retaing most of the 2-3 round picks.
RE: The magic number is #4  
Reale01 : 4/11/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13910109 SHO'NUFF said:
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it will ensure we get Barkley or Chubb...#5 guarantees that we get the leftovers from Barkley/Chubb.


Actually it is #5.
QB
QB
QB
Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, Fitz, the #4 QB could be 4,5,6,7,8 any of those guys would be a nice get for the Giants.
Browns draft Darnold  
George from PA : 4/11/2018 9:54 pm : link
Giants swap picks with Jets for their 2019 1st and Giants 3rd. Jets draft Rosen

Giants trade 3rd to Denver for their 5th pick, a 2nd and 2019 1st. Denver draft Baker Mayfield.

Cleveland draft Barkley

Giants trade 5th pick to Buffalo for 12th, 22nd, both 2nds and 2019 1st. Buffalo drafts Allen.

Colts draft Chubb at 6

Giants trade back down with Tampa for the 7th for their Buffalo 12, a 2nd and 3rd. Giants draft Nelson.

******************

Giants gets ready for the 22nd, and 3 2nds, 3rd, 4th and 5th.....and armed with 4 2019 1s!!
If Buffalo trades with Cleveland for their 4th  
George from PA : 4/11/2018 9:58 pm : link
Giants draft Barkley
This is the one move  
giantsFC : 4/11/2018 10:07 pm : link
That would turn the fan base on Dave Gettleman faster than they did on jerry Reese his draft decisions.

I really hope this isnít going to occur. To give up a top 3pick for top 15 picks in the NFL is scary stuff
RE: Browns draft Darnold  
twostepgiants : 4/11/2018 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13910342 George from PA said:
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Giants swap picks with Jets for their 2019 1st and Giants 3rd. Jets draft Rosen

Giants trade 3rd to Denver for their 5th pick, a 2nd and 2019 1st. Denver draft Baker Mayfield.

Cleveland draft Barkley

Giants trade 5th pick to Buffalo for 12th, 22nd, both 2nds and 2019 1st. Buffalo drafts Allen.

Colts draft Chubb at 6

Giants trade back down with Tampa for the 7th for their Buffalo 12, a 2nd and 3rd. Giants draft Nelson.

******************

Giants gets ready for the 22nd, and 3 2nds, 3rd, 4th and 5th.....and armed with 4 2019 1s!!


Why stop there? Keep trading down. That way we never have to actually make a pick. We can just accumulate picks.
RE: If Buffalo trades with Cleveland for their 4th  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/11/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13910352 George from PA said:
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Giants draft Barkley

If two teams that aren't the Giants make a trade for a pick that happens after the Giants' selection, it affects who the Giants pick? Please try harder.
If the Giants trade with Bills....  
Big_Pete : 4/11/2018 11:48 pm : link
I don't think trading with the Bills is all that bad.

You have to consider that we would only make the trade if there was the kind of offer we can't refuse. If we traded down, it would be to exploit the demand for QBs.

Should we trade with the Bills, the starting price would likely be both 1sts this year and 2019 1st round pick. (I expect a trade to be something along the lines of 2nd to Buffalo for 12th, 22nd, 56th, 65th and 2019 1st round pick. Which still leaves Buffalo 53rd and 99th on day 2).

I have heard of people not wanting to trade down too far and while I understand the principle, we should consider who could be available at 12.

Given the demand for QBs Allen, Mayfield, Rosen and Darnold will go in the top 10 as will Barkley, Chubb and Nelson. At 12, we will have the choice of LB Roquan Smith, LB Terrell Edmunds, CB Denzel Ward, S Derwin James or DB Minkah Fitzpatrick. Any of these guys are difference makers for our defence, addressing key needs in Bettcher's new scheme with premium talent.

Add to that picks to address a bunch of other needs this year and a 2019 1st round pick to add resources for next year, I can see a reasonable argument to be made for making a trade with the Bills.






RE: If the Giants trade with Bills....  
Big_Pete : 4/12/2018 2:38 am : link
In comment 13910503 Big_Pete said:
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I don't think trading with the Bills is all that bad.

You have to consider that we would only make the trade if there was the kind of offer we can't refuse. If we traded down, it would be to exploit the demand for QBs.

Should we trade with the Bills, the starting price would likely be both 1sts this year and 2019 1st round pick. (I expect a trade to be something along the lines of 2nd to Buffalo for 12th, 22nd, 56th, 65th and 2019 1st round pick. Which still leaves Buffalo 53rd and 99th on day 2).

I have heard of people not wanting to trade down too far and while I understand the principle, we should consider who could be available at 12.

Given the demand for QBs Allen, Mayfield, Rosen and Darnold will go in the top 10 as will Barkley, Chubb and Nelson. At 12, we will have the choice of LB Roquan Smith, LB Terrell Edmunds, CB Denzel Ward, S Derwin James or DB Minkah Fitzpatrick. Any of these guys are difference makers for our defence, addressing key needs in Bettcher's new scheme with premium talent.

Add to that picks to address a bunch of other needs this year and a 2019 1st round pick to add resources for next year, I can see a reasonable argument to be made for making a trade with the Bills.







Btw I meant LB Tremaine Edmunds not his brother
Browns  
Dragon : 4/12/2018 2:49 am : link
No one knows today which QB they like most speculations is Darnold same with Barkley or Chubb we donít know. I donít see any possibility they get both 1st and 2nd, 2018 round picks and additional 2019 picks from the Bills. They are desperate but thatís not desperation thatís utter stupidity and greed on the Giants part IMO but shit happens.
Gaterode read my piece beforehand  
George from PA : 4/12/2018 6:53 am : link
its after they trade down with Denver.
I'd hate to lose out on a blue chipper now  
JonC : 4/12/2018 8:11 am : link
but for a pair of 1's or three, and a pair of 2's and more it would be an awesome haul.

It  
AcidTest : 4/12/2018 8:23 am : link
looks like the Giants will take Darnold or trade down if he's not available. I still think dropping to #12 is too far, but I wouldn't hate doing so since the "haul" will presumably be enormous. All those picks would probably also allow us to trade back into the top 10.

Two weeks to go.
As a draft a QB now proponent, I still understand the value of this  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/12/2018 8:27 am : link
as long as BUFs #1 next year was included, Im fine with it because that will be the pick which we can use to get a QB next year.
RE: So Gettleman is confiding in all of these people...  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/12/2018 8:29 am : link
In comment 13910052 EricJ said:
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who run to the media and reveal what our plans are?
Does anyone really think that there is any truth to that at all?

99% of the supposed "inside information" has turned out to be bullshit and all we do is continue to fall for this nonsense.

These reporters are like a weather man who calls for both rain and sunny skies at the same time. Throw enough shit against the wall and you are eventually going to guess right on something.


Of course you could be right, or DG could be using this to drive up the price on someone else?

or it could have leaked from BUF source? Who knows but there are reasons stuff gets leaked.
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