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NFT: Yankees at Red Sox - Wednesday - 04/11/2018

Ace718 : 4/11/2018 6:04 pm
Yankees lineup for tonight

Gardner CF
Judge RF
Stanton LF
Didi SS
Sanchez C
Walker 1B
Austin DH
Wade 2B
Andujar 3B

Tanaka on the mound
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If Austin gets suspended, that will be a joke  
Greg from LI : 4/11/2018 11:10 pm : link
Hopefully the fracas wakes them up as a team.
Great fastball from Chapman to finish it  
mfsd : 4/11/2018 11:11 pm : link
Much needed win. Happy to also see Boone get pissed off during the brawl. The nice guy thing is great and all, but this team showed some much needed moxie tonight.
Austin has to  
section125 : 4/11/2018 11:11 pm : link
stay on this team.

And a fuck you fast ball by Chapman.
It wasn't easy  
dune69 : 4/11/2018 11:12 pm : link
but it was fun. We need to do it again tomorrow.
Yankees win!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/11/2018 11:12 pm : link
Fuck Boston.
RE: If Austin gets suspended, that will be a joke  
section125 : 4/11/2018 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13910460 Greg from LI said:
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Hopefully the fracas wakes them up as a team.


He'll get two games Greg. Well worth it. Fuck those assholes. Kelly gets one.
I actually think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 11:15 pm : link
the ruckus about the slide took the Yanks by surprise.

If he really was going for a dirty play, he'd have done the now illegal takeout slide.

No surprise..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/11/2018 11:16 pm : link
Pedro is fine with the Sox going after Austin, he just has a problem with the timing.
Lol the guy Austin punched in the face was some coach  
DennyInDenville : 4/11/2018 11:17 pm : link
He's definitely getting suspended

Austin earned a spot on the playoff roster today
RE: Lol the guy Austin punched in the face was some coach  
RasputinPrime : 4/11/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13910474 DennyInDenville said:
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He's definitely getting suspended

Austin earned a spot on the playoff roster today


Agreed. Big game for many reasons.
Hopefully that's a galvanizer.  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2018 11:20 pm : link
Brock Holt - grow up you little bitch.
The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
Greg from LI : 4/11/2018 11:22 pm : link
things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.
Red Sox are whiny babies  
dpinzow : 4/11/2018 11:22 pm : link
Austin's slide was within normal baseball limits

Joe Kelly threw at Austin twice...unwritten rule of baseball, you only get one shot to plunk a guy you want to hit
RE: No surprise..  
mfsd : 4/11/2018 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13910473 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Pedro is fine with the Sox going after Austin, he just has a problem with the timing.


Had to turn those idiots off. Pedro and Harold Reynolds rambling on about what a good job Kelly did hitting ďthe kidĒ
RE: The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
mfsd : 4/11/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13910481 Greg from LI said:
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things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.


Even my Sox fans buddies I was texting with, who took an obviously Boston colored view of the affair, were essentially saying thank god Judge decided to play peacemaker, bc he was right in position to start wrecking guys
RE: The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
Del Shofner : 4/11/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13910481 Greg from LI said:
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things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.


Judge and Stanton were pushing the whole Red Sox pile. It was pretty hilarious. Lucky no one got hurt in that scrum.
RE: RE: The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
dpinzow : 4/11/2018 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13910488 mfsd said:
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In comment 13910481 Greg from LI said:


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things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.



Even my Sox fans buddies I was texting with, who took an obviously Boston colored view of the affair, were essentially saying thank god Judge decided to play peacemaker, bc he was right in position to start wrecking guys


I don't want Judge "wrecking guys" in a brawl and getting hurt though. This isn't hockey where you can throw goons out there. Judge is too valuable a player
Kelly should get a lengthy suspension  
dpinzow : 4/11/2018 11:41 pm : link
He's a guy throwing 100 and missed with the first beanball, then hit Austin with the second beanball. No place for a pitcher throwing that hard to intentionally try and injure a hitter. Now if he got him with the first attempt, I think that's within normal baseball back and forth. The fact that he kept on trying to plunk Austin is really bad
Sox are a bunch of scumbag pussies  
djm : 4/11/2018 11:43 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
mfsd : 4/11/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13910491 dpinzow said:
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In comment 13910481 Greg from LI said:


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things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.



Even my Sox fans buddies I was texting with, who took an obviously Boston colored view of the affair, were essentially saying thank god Judge decided to play peacemaker, bc he was right in position to start wrecking guys



I don't want Judge "wrecking guys" in a brawl and getting hurt though. This isn't hockey where you can throw goons out there. Judge is too valuable a player


Nobody said they did want Judge wrecking guys
RE: Red Sox are whiny babies  
old man : 4/12/2018 2:49 am : link
In comment 13910483 dpinzow said:
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Austin's slide was within normal baseball limits

Joe Kelly threw at Austin twice...unwritten rule of baseball, you only get one shot to plunk a guy you want to hit


Slide did look ok.
Kelly sucks that's why he needs 2 shots.
Don't want him suspended at all. He hurts Sox more than helps them when he's active.
Wow, if ever the Yankees needed a wake up call...  
M.S. : 4/12/2018 7:04 am : link

...Austin getting drilled was it.

Chapman gives us a scare but holds on  
superspynyg : 4/12/2018 7:39 am : link
To reserve the win.
In the words of I. Yamomoto  
Elisthebest : 4/12/2018 7:46 am : link
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" or was that Joey Cora?
Brock Holt admits the slide wasnít intentional  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 7:58 am : link
he probably shouldnít have said anything, and thought it was over before Kelly threw at Austin.

Also admits he was scared of Judge and Stanton. Lol
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The ironic thing about the postgame..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/12/2018 8:07 am : link
was they showed the slide from Austin's perspective and he appeared to be trying to break up the DP, and Holt didn't stretch for the ball until the slide had already started, meaning that Austin didn't know Holt was just conceding the one out.

So Harold Reynolds says that Austin at that point thinks he's just trying to disrupt the possible DP. Then 2 minutes later after Pedro said he was fine with Austin getting beaned, Reynolds agreed.
I didnít think their stance was unfair  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2018 8:11 am : link
They both basically specified that the only issue is that it was studs-up.

Legal but aggressive slide, studs-up repaid with a fastball around the middle of the back.

I have no issue with either side. There was no head-hunting or any bullshit like that.

Play ball.
back to the '70s. Just needed Fisk and Munson rolling around in the  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 8:24 am : link
dirt.
*fuck the Red Sox. That was whiny bullshit on the slide, and plugging Austin for doing nothing wong was bush league
*Judge smoking while still getting fucked on low pitches.
*Sawx are lucky that Judge is a mild mannered guy and acted as a peace maker.
*Welcome back El Gary! Looked like a completely different guy at the plate. last night.
Studs-up repaid..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/12/2018 8:24 am : link
with a second attempt at a fastball in the back a few innings after the slide occurred.

Like I said earlier - when you're trying to spike a player, you forcefully jam them into a meaty part or shin of a stationary leg. You don't make incidental contact with an ankle.
RE: The Sawx were just lucky that Judge and Stanton were trying to break  
Stu11 : 4/12/2018 8:31 am : link
In comment 13910481 Greg from LI said:
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things up instead of dropping guys. Watching Judge shoving about 5 guys at once back to the dugout was hilarious.

Haha if that was a real fight with Judge/Stanton/Betances/Chapman involved vs. the little prick midgets it would have been about as close as Custer at Little Big Horn...
Iím just trying to be fair  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2018 8:33 am : link
If Didi got hit with that slide, I wouldnít be up in arms about it, but Iíd be thrilled to see Kahnle plant one in the guyís back.

I have a hard time getting upset about the fact that it was a couple innings later or that it took a second pitch because Kelly seemingly didnít commit to the first one. Maybe thatís just me.

I donít like that the Yankees have always seemed to be on the receiving end of the HBP situations for some years, but I blame a lot of that on Girardi tolerating it for too long.
RE: And when..  
Stu11 : 4/12/2018 8:35 am : link
In comment 13910422 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a borderline strike 3 is called, they always say something.

Meanwhile, Judge goes back to the dugout. Maybe he needs to start acting like more of an ass

Last year that was on Joe and he never said anything. This year its on Boone. He needs to speak up at post game pressers the way Pat Riley used to. The amount of absolutely ridiculous strike 3 calls Judge has gotten over the past 2 season needs to be addressed.
RE: Studs-up repaid..  
section125 : 4/12/2018 8:37 am : link
In comment 13910594 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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with a second attempt at a fastball in the back a few innings after the slide occurred.

Like I said earlier - when you're trying to spike a player, you forcefully jam them into a meaty part or shin of a stationary leg. You don't make incidental contact with an ankle.


Yep, that was not a Ty Cobb slide. If Holt doesn't like it, he can get his ass off the bag a little quicker next time. Also if he doesn't like cleats getting stuck in his pants, he can wear them like they are supposed to be worn with the stirrup socks exposed....(ha ha ha)
I was...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/12/2018 8:37 am : link
tossed from games twice in my life and both on strike 3 calls, and once for jumping over and through my bat without saying a word

I really admire how Judge doesn't say a word. That takes a lot of self-control because he certainly knows they are terrible pitches.

Like you said - Boone needs to start working the mic.
RE: Iím just trying to be fair  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 8:39 am : link
In comment 13910605 bigbluehoya said:
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If Didi got hit with that slide, I wouldnít be up in arms about it, but Iíd be thrilled to see Kahnle plant one in the guyís back.

I have a hard time getting upset about the fact that it was a couple innings later or that it took a second pitch because Kelly seemingly didnít commit to the first one. Maybe thatís just me.

I donít like that the Yankees have always seemed to be on the receiving end of the HBP situations for some years, but I blame a lot of that on Girardi tolerating it for too long.


Reasonable post. I didnít see it, but apparently Kelly yelled ďcome on!Ē to Austin after he hit him...so nobody should have any gripe about Austin going after him.

I also donít get Pedroís point about how they should have done it in the next AB. Pedro should keep himself busy tutoring Severino in the offseason and sitting under his mango tree
RE: Iím just trying to be fair  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 8:40 am : link
In comment 13910605 bigbluehoya said:
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If Didi got hit with that slide, I wouldnít be up in arms about it, but Iíd be thrilled to see Kahnle plant one in the guyís back.

I have a hard time getting upset about the fact that it was a couple innings later or that it took a second pitch because Kelly seemingly didnít commit to the first one. Maybe thatís just me.

I donít like that the Yankees have always seemed to be on the receiving end of the HBP situations for some years, but I blame a lot of that on Girardi tolerating it for too long.


Torre too. 23 yrs of turning the other cheek, putting our hitters in danger, putting no fear in the opponents at the plate.
Judge is too big a star  
section125 : 4/12/2018 8:43 am : link
for the league to allow those low and outside pitches to be called strikes. He is smart to just walk away and let the office handle it behind the scene. Eventually that pitch will stop being called.
RE: Judge is too big a star  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 8:45 am : link
In comment 13910627 section125 said:
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for the league to allow those low and outside pitches to be called strikes. He is smart to just walk away and let the office handle it behind the scene. Eventually that pitch will stop being called.


Yeah I hope in time heíll earn more respect by umps, especially since he doesnít show them up by complaining.

But I also agree Boone needs to start a drumbeat or pointing it out publicly
btw, nice Al Czervik "00H my arm! I think its broken!"  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 9:13 am : link
from Price. Very Ferris Bueller-like non-specific symptom I have a "snesation" in my arm.

Yeah, the sensation that he was getting shellacked. At least Severino stayed in the game and tried, gave the Yanks 5 innings and didn't kill the pen.
Al Czervik!!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/12/2018 9:14 am : link
I love this place sometimes!!!
RE: btw, nice Al Czervik  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 9:18 am : link
In comment 13910661 Victor in CT said:
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from Price. Very Ferris Bueller-like non-specific symptom I have a "snesation" in my arm.

Yeah, the sensation that he was getting shellacked. At least Severino stayed in the game and tried, gave the Yanks 5 innings and didn't kill the pen.


Hahaha
I have wondered since last year if any hitter in MLB gets more  
arniefez : 4/12/2018 9:20 am : link
pitches off the plate or low called strikes than Judge. I get it. He's huge and he never complains. I figured at some point it would get better. It's not getting better. Of course i'm so bias watching his AB's I don't know if that's really true. Does anyone know if one of the sabr sites has info on the percentage of called strikes against that were out of the zone? I bet it's way more than any hitter in MLB.
I'm with hoya  
Kyle in NY : 4/12/2018 9:21 am : link
I can see it from both sides in this instance. I didn't think the slide was that bad but it was spikes up. And if the roles were reversed and it was done to Didi, I wouldn't like it and would be ok putting one in their back.

Kelly did it right, he didn't go up around the head. And he stood his ground and didn't run away throwing his glove like the San Diego pitcher yesterday. You could even see him say "come on" to Austin, telling him to come out to fight. I hate that team, but I can at least respect that from Kelly.

All of that said, I'm proud of our guys for not taking any crap from them. This went on for too long under Torre with no response. I appreciate this group standing up for themselves and I hope it brings them together. Finishing off that win was a great step in that direction.

Also love seeing Judge and Stanton get right in the middle of it to protect their guys. Good job all around. Let's take the series tonight. It's going to be a fun season
pretty clean slide  
UConn4523 : 4/12/2018 9:25 am : link
don't even have a problem with the retaliation per say, but how many shots does it take to beam a guy? Kelly is a dick, and sucks, and should have quit after it didn't work the first time.
RE: btw, nice Al Czervik  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 13910661 Victor in CT said:
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from Price. Very Ferris Bueller-like non-specific symptom I have a "snesation" in my arm.

Yeah, the sensation that he was getting shellacked. At least Severino stayed in the game and tried, gave the Yanks 5 innings and didn't kill the pen.




Best wisecrack I've seen around here in a while!

The problem I have with Kelly is he tried to be sneaky  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2018 9:57 am : link
You get one shot at a guy before it becomes horseshit. He took his first shot by trying to hit Austin with a slider so he could pretend that it was an accident, and missed.
I thank you all!  
Victor in CT : 4/12/2018 9:58 am : link
:-)
Yeah, no big issues with either side last night.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2018 10:02 am : link
Red Sox are way too sensitive about this stuff in general though. Last year Machado spiked Pedroia by accident, immediately apologized and made sure he was OK, and still got beaned repeatedly. If you hate the slightest bit of contact on the baseball field, there are plenty of golf courses around.

All this shit happens at Fenway too - they're not quite so bold in the Bronx.
The guys on MLB radio this morning were killing Kelly  
mfsd : 4/12/2018 10:26 am : link
for yelling ďcome onĒ, then backing away instead of standing his ground against Austin. All a matter of interpretation I guess

But whatever, in with the crowd, Kelly didnít head hunt and Austin stood up for himself. Itís a wash and it should be over

Until, of course, someone on the Sox takes another shot at a Yankee
RE: Cora vs. Nevin lol  
batman11 : 4/12/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13910379 Stu11 said:
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That would be about as close as Tyson-Spinks


I saw the video of Cora dismissing Nevin by waiving his hand and drawing a box in the air as if to say: "Go back to your measly coaches box, Nevin! I am the great Cora, manager of the Boston Red Sox!" Like Cora is some long time established, successful manager and Nevin is just a lowly 3rd base coach. What a dick! Cora has been a MLB manager for about 5 minutes! Also, what does that say to the Red Sox coaches if their "manager" thinks he is so above them and that they are just lowly coaches. Nice way to manage people, stupid!
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