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Josh Allen 1st overall?

Big Rick in FL : 4/12/2018 10:07 am
He's not the Vegas favorite to go first overall according to our former OG Geoff Schwartz. I've never looked at Vegas odds for the 1st overall pick. Anybody have any idea if they are ever accurate?

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@geoffschwartz: Yesterday morning Sam Darnold was still the Vegas favorite to get drafted 1st. Now itís Josh Allen. Itís happening folks... and the Giants will go from Eli Manning to Sam Darnold. Good for them.
my perference  
firedbytheboss : 4/12/2018 10:11 am : link
I still prefer Rosen but I will take any QB that DG and PS feel they love..
Vegas  
The Dude : 4/12/2018 10:15 am : link
is pretty good at that type of stuff lol
Can't speak to Vegas historical accuracy  
shyster : 4/12/2018 10:23 am : link
but I have been following the odds on #1 this draft season.

Think Schwartz may have misread the plus/minus. Darnold still holding as odd-on minus 175 favorite at betonline. Allen has improved in recent days from plus 175 to plus 125.

For news of the day, such as it is, I would look to Albert Breer's MMBQ piece linked in today's Breer thread. Browns are still in decision process.

If the Cleveland beats (and Breer) don't know, nobody knows. Except Dorsey.
If I were a Browns Fan  
Capt. Don : 4/12/2018 10:30 am : link
and they take Allen #1, I would NOT be happy.

Its not that I am confident that he will strike out but the Browns have been so bad for so long that I would just want more of a sure thing. Darnold may have a lower ceiling but he has a much higher floor.
Too big of gamble for that Franchise  
Peppers : 4/12/2018 10:47 am : link
Since switching the format to prime time the NFL made it clear to teams it wants excitement for the #1 pick.

I'd bet Darnold @1 every time.

The feeling I'm getting is that the first 3 picks are nearly set. What happens at 4 is where it starts to get murky.
RE: Too big of gamble for that Franchise  
GFAN52 : 4/12/2018 10:50 am : link
In comment 13910882 Peppers said:
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Since switching the format to prime time the NFL made it clear to teams it wants excitement for the #1 pick.

I'd bet Darnold @1 every time.

The feeling I'm getting is that the first 3 picks are nearly set. What happens at 4 is where it starts to get murky.


Most of the Browns beat reporters feel that Dorsey will pick Darnold as well.
I would be shocked if the first 3 picks are  
Dave on the UWS : 4/12/2018 12:02 pm : link
NOT QB's. Whether the Giants are picking 2nd......
"Highest Floor"??  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/12/2018 12:53 pm : link
I want the QB with the highest ceiling no matter where his floor is.
RE:  
MojoEd : 4/12/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13911253 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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I want the QB with the highest ceiling no matter where his floor is.

Itís an extreme example, but the Peyton Manning v Ryan Leaf debate was between Peytonís high floor and Ryanís perceived higher upside. Made sense to me at the time, but I am not buying it now.
One can only  
giantsFC : 4/12/2018 2:09 pm : link
Hope
Schwartz said it was from Bookmaker  
Big Rick in FL : 4/12/2018 2:15 pm : link
Idk if that's a website? Don't know much about gambling.
It would be pretty "Brownsy" for  
Heisenberg : 4/12/2018 2:18 pm : link
them to take Allen and him turn out to be a bust.
RE: It would be pretty  
Big Rick in FL : 4/12/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13911500 Heisenberg said:
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them to take Allen and him turn out to be a bust.


Oh yeah. He's a Browns pick all the way.

There just seems to be so much smoke around Allen & the Browns that I find it hard to believe it isn't true. Peter King, Daniel Jeremiah, Ian O'Connor, Dane Brugler & Lance Zierlein have all said they've heard the Browns will take Allen. Those are some pretty big names in the draft world.
That would be too perfect for the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 4/12/2018 2:45 pm : link
After the year we just endured it would be a consolation prize to have Darnold fall into our laps.
RE: Schwartz said it was from Bookmaker  
shyster : 4/12/2018 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13911490 Big Rick in FL said:
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Idk if that's a website? Don't know much about gambling.


It's a website with a European domain. You have to join to get the odds, so I can't tell.

I've been checking in at the betonline site just as an indicator.

Plus 125 on Allen does represent a high mark for him for the entire process and he and Darnold are now in their own ballpark and way clear of Rosen and Mayfield (and Barkley).

At least for the betting on #1. We'll see how smart the money turns out to be.
RE: It would be pretty  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/12/2018 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13911500 Heisenberg said:
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them to take Allen and him turn out to be a bust.


I'm ready and set for Hue Jackson to throw Allen under the bus.
This place will implode if its Allen to NYG @2  
UberAlias : 4/12/2018 8:24 pm : link
At this point Iím prepared for anything.
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