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Seventh Spiel : 4/13/2018 10:21 am
Says the Post. And just like that, from a surplus of catchers to a dearth
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:22 am : link
What the fuck? How do they say the x rays are negative and then say it's broken?
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KWhite2250 : 4/13/2018 10:24 am : link
In comment 13912662 arcarsenal said:
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What the fuck? How do they say the x rays are negative and then say it's broken?


Because theyre the Mets?
We're just getting started  
Csonka : 4/13/2018 10:25 am : link
Life as a Mets fan. I fully expect to hear about an outfielder with a hamstring and a pitcher with forearm tightness by the end of the month.
Same old shit...  
figgy2989 : 4/13/2018 10:25 am : link
X-rays were negative, but now its broken.

Unreal
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 13912664 KWhite2250 said:
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What the fuck? How do they say the x rays are negative and then say it's broken?



Because theyre the Mets?


I was hoping bullshit like this was in the past - I guess not.

Unreal.

Better start making some calls. Tomas Nido and Jose Lobaton suck. We can't have a black hole in the lineup every single day.
What's the price for Realmuto?  
Seventh Spiel : 4/13/2018 10:30 am : link
Apparently the Marlins in February asked for Kyle Tucker from the Astros. He's a better prospect than the Mets have.
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That's so annoying- typically aren't any good players avail this early  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:33 am : link
maybe just maybe the A's would already be willing to deal Lucroy so they can basically turn a minor amount of money paid to him into a prospect? I'd be on the phone offering them something like Robles and a non-top 20 prospect.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:33 am : link
We have very little leverage at this point - everyone knows we're going to be desperate to add a catcher and will want Gimenez+
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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13912699 arcarsenal said:
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We have very little leverage at this point - everyone knows we're going to be desperate to add a catcher and will want Gimenez+


Yeah I mean I think realistically we're going to be restricted to the backup catcher market and dealing for someone like Rene Rivera at this point.
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Mike in NY : 4/13/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13912699 arcarsenal said:
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We have very little leverage at this point - everyone knows we're going to be desperate to add a catcher and will want Gimenez+


If d'Arnaud is out for an extended period, they can always move him to 60 day DL to open up a 40 man spot for Lobotan. Otherwise I would be looking at low hanging fruit like Murphy. Colorado is always desperate for relievers. Can see if they would be interested in Callahan as he is close to the majors.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13912700 Eric on Li said:
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We have very little leverage at this point - everyone knows we're going to be desperate to add a catcher and will want Gimenez+



Yeah I mean I think realistically we're going to be restricted to the backup catcher market and dealing for someone like Rene Rivera at this point.


Yeah - sucks. Might be better off just trying to make this work for a bit and hope that once the A's and Marlins start bombing that they'll be more willing to make a deal.

Catcher seems to be as weak around the league as I can remember in a long time. There's very little quality.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:37 am : link
In comment 13912704 Mike in NY said:
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We have very little leverage at this point - everyone knows we're going to be desperate to add a catcher and will want Gimenez+



If d'Arnaud is out for an extended period, they can always move him to 60 day DL to open up a 40 man spot for Lobotan. Otherwise I would be looking at low hanging fruit like Murphy. Colorado is always desperate for relievers. Can see if they would be interested in Callahan as he is close to the majors.


Definitely not a bad idea. I'd at least check in if I were Sandy.
I agree Mike - I think the move is trading a RP for the best C avail  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:39 am : link
I've got to think most teams would take the gamble on an upside arm ready to contribute in the majors right now over their backup catcher. Sewald, Robles, Callahan and Rhame would seem like good candidates for trade depending on how good the player coming back is. I'd try really hard to do Robles+ for Lucroy.
Don't we have Jose Lobaton?  
Chris684 : 4/13/2018 10:43 am : link
We obviously have to make move.

Could Nimmo be moved for Realmuto?

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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:47 am : link
No way in hell am I giving up Nimmo for Realmuto.
Things were going to well in Metsland  
gmen9892 : 4/13/2018 10:48 am : link
You know some adversity was going to hit at some point. Just sucks that it is so early and the trade market hasn't even begun to materialize yet.

Think they are going to ride the Nido/Lobaton combo until they show that they are a detriment. Holding out hope that Nido can at least be serviceable.

Might have to look into adding Cheech, Hanigan, Montero or Rupp if one of Nido/Lobaton show that they are completely inept offensively. At the very least, we will see improved defensive play/arms behind the plate for the time being.
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gmen9892 : 4/13/2018 10:48 am : link
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You know some adversity was going to hit at some point. Just sucks that it is so early and the trade market hasn't even begun to materialize yet.

Think they are going to ride the Nido/Lobaton combo until they show that they are a detriment. Holding out hope that Nido can at least be serviceable.

Might have to look into adding Cheech, Hanigan, Montero or Rupp if one of Nido/Lobaton show that they are completely inept offensively. At the very least, we will see improved defensive play/arms behind the plate for the time being.


*too well
looking at Oak I actually think Robles (+) for Lucroy makes sense  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:48 am : link
Their BP is a mess. They currently only have 2 guys under 30 in their BP, both are 29 years old. Treinen has 2 saves this year, he had to go 2 innings for both of them. Also blew 1 save already.

Lucroy has been hitting 7th and 8th in their lineup and they have a 27 year old behind him who seems halfway decent and had a respectable year last year with 250 ABs.

Oakland would save more than $5M in the exchange. And realistically Beane probably just signed Lucroy to trade him at the deadline anyway.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:50 am : link
The plus side is we've been getting very little production out of the catcher spot at the dish thus far and have still been winning anyway.

Plaw was batting .150 and was off to a very slow start - d'Arnaud wasn't fairing much better.

So - we don't exactly need Nido or Lobaton to tear the cover off the ball to maintain what we're doing right now as long as they hold up defensively.

We have a few hitters due for a hot streak anyway. (Looking at you, Cespy)
Just sign  
KWhite2250 : 4/13/2018 10:51 am : link
Carlos Ruiz before looking into trades
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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 13912751 arcarsenal said:
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The plus side is we've been getting very little production out of the catcher spot at the dish thus far and have still been winning anyway.

Plaw was batting .150 and was off to a very slow start - d'Arnaud wasn't fairing much better.

So - we don't exactly need Nido or Lobaton to tear the cover off the ball to maintain what we're doing right now as long as they hold up defensively.

We have a few hitters due for a hot streak anyway. (Looking at you, Cespy)


I'm excited to see Nido for a few weeks since he's supposedly going to be an upgrade defensively at the least. Offensively who knows but he he doesn't strike out a lot so maybe he just goes up there not trying to do too much and puts the ball in play a little bit?
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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:53 am : link
In comment 13912753 KWhite2250 said:
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Carlos Ruiz before looking into trades


That's a really good idea.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:54 am : link
Yeah, I would add Ruiz for now - it's insurance. He's a pro at least.

Has anyone heard from Sheck? I gotta make sure he's okay - probably devastated.
Mother fer  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2018 10:55 am : link
Here come the major injuries...
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Metnut : 4/13/2018 10:56 am : link
Nimmo or Giminez for Realmuto but not both. It would be contingent on waiting a few weeks and making sure Realmuto is healthy. Realmuto is under team control for a while and would be a great addition without feeling like we're giving up the future.
Ruiz, Soto, Norris  
ZGiants98 : 4/13/2018 10:57 am : link
And Montero available.

Lobaton/Nido? Yuck!
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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 10:57 am : link
In comment 13912762 arcarsenal said:
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Yeah, I would add Ruiz for now - it's insurance. He's a pro at least.

Has anyone heard from Sheck? I gotta make sure he's okay - probably devastated.


Probably still in the hospital waiting room.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 10:58 am : link
In comment 13912771 Eric on Li said:
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Yeah, I would add Ruiz for now - it's insurance. He's a pro at least.

Has anyone heard from Sheck? I gotta make sure he's okay - probably devastated.



Probably still in the hospital waiting room.


LOL. Poor guy.
Dangling Nimmo for Realmuto is tempting...  
Chris684 : 4/13/2018 10:58 am : link
but we'll pull the trigger on a deal like that and Lagares will break his thumb diving for a ball in Center.

Would be typical.
I wonder if they give Evans a chance to try some more C in Vegas  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 11:00 am : link
that could be an interesting idea for him individually since it's unlikely there's another spot he'd be able to break in at.
Some silver lining?  
GiantBlue : 4/13/2018 11:01 am : link
Steve Gelbs‏Verified account @SteveGelbs 5m5 minutes ago

As I just reported on @SNYtv, I can confirm @NYPost_Mets report of a fracture for Plawecki. Thats the bad news.

The good news? I have been told the fracture is minor and the expectation is that Plawecki could be back in as little as 2-3 weeks.

Take a deep breath  
giantsFC : 4/13/2018 11:02 am : link
It was the weakest position on the team. Brining in guys who are defensive minded w weak bats isn't going to be their demise.

trading Nimmo for a position that has no talent across the board outside of maybe 3 is ridiculous.

No chance I trade any of their MLB available pithing right now for a catcher.

A mid level prospect maybe.

Give Nido and anyone else the claim the chance.
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sshin05 : 4/13/2018 11:02 am : link
are some FA's they can look at before they commit to a trade. I would go that route first, Miguel Montero recently got DFA'd; so someone who was on a ML roster recently is someone i would target.
Move  
sshin05 : 4/13/2018 11:05 am : link
DW to the 60 day DL to make room on the 40 man probably for Lobaton, and later if you have to d'Arnaud to the 60, for anyone else.
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 11:05 am : link
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Steve Gelbs‏Verified account @SteveGelbs 5m5 minutes ago

As I just reported on @SNYtv, I can confirm @NYPost_Mets report of a fracture for Plawecki. Thats the bad news.

The good news? I have been told the fracture is minor and the expectation is that Plawecki could be back in as little as 2-3 weeks.


Well this is good.
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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 13912793 arcarsenal said:
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Steve Gelbs‏Verified account @SteveGelbs 5m5 minutes ago

As I just reported on @SNYtv, I can confirm @NYPost_Mets report of a fracture for Plawecki. Thats the bad news.

The good news? I have been told the fracture is minor and the expectation is that Plawecki could be back in as little as 2-3 weeks.




Well this is good.


Makes sense that it would be minor since they missed it on xray. A lot of small bones in hand.
Keep Nimmo  
spike : 4/13/2018 11:07 am : link
We have zero OF depth in the minors.

We even traded for Kendall Coleman from NYY
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JayBinQueens : 4/13/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13912662 arcarsenal said:
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What the fuck? How do they say the x rays are negative and then say it's broken?
The fracture probably isn't that large and had to wait a little for the swelling to go down to see it.

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giantsFC : 4/13/2018 11:08 am : link
I mean most bones take 6 weeks no matter what but depending on how it effects his swing etc. maybe they let him try back in 4.

at least its not an elbow or shoulder or hamstring. bones have a set time. not a lingering issue.

but really. why is it always the mets, when hit by a baseball, have fractures this year?
2-3 weeks  
Metnut : 4/13/2018 11:09 am : link
is a lot different than 2-3 months. It's not like TDA/Plawecki were producing a ton for us during this 10-1 start anyway. We can get away with Nido/Loboton for a few weeks and keep an eye on FAs available.
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Shecky : 4/13/2018 11:09 am : link
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moze1021 : 4/13/2018 11:13 am : link
In comment 13912759 Eric on Li said:
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Carlos Ruiz before looking into trades



That's a really good idea.



I don't think I'd be able to handle hearing them call him "Chooch" every game...
If the 2-3 week timeline is accurate  
Chris684 : 4/13/2018 11:20 am : link
then there's really nothing to do other than sit tight at this point.

It's not like TDA or Plaw were staples in the lineup. The expectations were to basically be average. The offense probably suffers a little bit, but the defense may actually improve.
MLB traderumors  
giantsFC : 4/13/2018 11:20 am : link
has a decent list of players

fear not fellow pessimists (almost all met fans) there could be short term hope.
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debo_GIANTS : 4/13/2018 11:21 am : link
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Sheck - Buster Posey trade in the works?
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arcarsenal : 4/13/2018 11:21 am : link
In comment 13912842 debo_GIANTS said:
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Sheck - Buster Posey trade in the works?


Haha, I think he meant that to be "water under the bridge"

In other words - we're fine.
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giantsFC : 4/13/2018 11:22 am : link
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giantsFC : 4/13/2018 11:23 am : link
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Sheck - Buster Posey trade in the works?



Haha, I think he meant that to be "water under the bridge"

In other words - we're fine.


I interpreted it as the calm before the tidal wave hits...
Realmuto would be a great get,  
Ira : 4/13/2018 11:24 am : link
but he'll probably cost too much. Nimmo is our future at cf, once the team realizes that Jay Bruce's days are numbered. An outfield of Cespedes, Nimmo and Conforto is what we want going forward.

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Eric on Li : 4/13/2018 11:25 am : link
In comment 13912840 giantsFC said:
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has a decent list of players

fear not fellow pessimists (almost all met fans) there could be short term hope.


yea this is a very comprehensive list. Give Nido and Lobaton 10 days or so and I'm sure they will also add a veteran.
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