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Excitement about 3rd round pick

markky : 4/13/2018 10:26 am
Wow, was going to start a thread about how we could get a player in the 3rd round but looked at our history. Wow.

Double O
Da'Monster
Hosley
Jernigan
Barden, Beckum

We had better make hay in rounds 1 and 2. Anything after that looks like a sub-50% chance of getting a player. Really hoping Gettleman can change our success rate.
I was all about the Ramses Barden pick.  
Brown Recluse : 4/13/2018 10:31 am : link
Yeesh.
The past is irrelevant  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2018 10:35 am : link
We have a new GM now and head of college scouting.
Seems like picks 10-60 or so  
idiotsavant : 4/13/2018 10:43 am : link
There is a big second tier, so stock pile second rounders?
Very good point and something Gettleman needs to fix starting now...  
the mike : 4/13/2018 10:48 am : link
This is a key driver in the precipitous talent drain during Reese's tenure. You simply have to hit on the majority of your selections in the top hundred picks in the draft, especially guys in the third round. We have had virtually no contribution whatsoever from third round draft picks over the last decade. And each of our super bowl runs was driven by huge contributions from some of these guys...

2008 #95 Mario Manningham
2007 #81 Jay Alford
2005 #74 Justin Tuck
1987 #83 Stephen Baker
1984 #59 Jeff Hostetler
1983 #70 Karl Nelson


There's little doubt that good players will come out of round three.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2018 10:51 am : link
That is true every year. The likelihood of any particular team getting one of those good players, however, isn't very high.

The Giants are no exception. In recent years, they have been something of an exception in the wrong direction. Small sample, so I don't know whether the problem has been systemic or just a run of bad luck. Some of those picks were highly controversial at the time they were made. Others were quite popular.
Why on earth would anyone look at a past front office's picks,  
Mad Mike : 4/13/2018 10:52 am : link
good or bad, to form expectations about what this front office will do?
DG  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2018 10:58 am : link
Drafted two great offensive linemen in Carolina in the 3rd and 4th round (G Trai Turner and RT Daryl Williams) Hopefully he will continue to do so here. Perhaps Austin Corbett, Frank Ragnow, or Brian O'Neill.
RE: Why on earth would anyone look at a past front office's picks,  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/13/2018 11:07 am : link
Mad Mike said:
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good or bad, to form expectations about what this front office will do?
If there's a reason, it has to do with all the holdover scouts. Of course, we don't know whether the main problem in recent drafts was the scouting reports or the way Reese and Ross used the information... or both... or neither.
this is why Reese/ Ross are gone  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/13/2018 11:32 am : link
last 7 years have been mostly misses
We could get two good players in the third round  
Ira : 4/13/2018 11:34 am : link
and then again ....
RE: I was all about the Ramses Barden pick.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/13/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 13912693 Brown Recluse said:
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Yeesh.


I don't think anyone was excited by the Beckum pick, I think the universal response was wtf?
RE: RE: I was all about the Ramses Barden pick.  
Amtoft : 4/13/2018 11:47 am : link
In comment 13912891 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 13912693 Brown Recluse said:


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Yeesh.



I don't think anyone was excited by the Beckum pick, I think the universal response was wtf?


Actually a lot were and I believe Phil in LA predicted it.
The Barden/Beckum truthers  
Mike from SI : 4/13/2018 11:51 am : link
were the worst.
Jobs were lost  
TMS : 4/13/2018 12:05 pm : link
because of that record. That why DG is back.
Seems to me ...  
BigBlue1013 : 4/13/2018 1:17 pm : link
Jerry Reese didn't mind reaching on prospects in the 3rd round. And Jerry wanted dudes who had potential but weren't any good.

3rd rounds shouldn't be use for reaching or potential but more guys who are talented and can contribute year 1. While rounds 4-5-6-7 are for the reaching/potential prospects.
RE: RE: RE: I was all about the Ramses Barden pick.  
Jim in Tampa : 4/13/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13912893 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13912891 Coach Red Beaulieu said:


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In comment 13912693 Brown Recluse said:


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Yeesh.



I don't think anyone was excited by the Beckum pick, I think the universal response was wtf?



Actually a lot were and I believe Phil in LA predicted it.


About 90% of the BBI mocks had the Giants taking Barden.
Package the 2 picks and move up in the second I say  
NikkiMac : 4/13/2018 3:23 pm : link
Third round is the house of horrors for the Gmen
Be careful posting anything insulting about Giants draft pick history  
giantsFC : 4/13/2018 3:43 pm : link
on here. dem board club boyz will go at you.

Looking at our history in any round is pointless  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2018 3:55 pm : link
unless you think itís Mara making the pics. Even our very good Roubd 2 track record is meaningless.
RE: Very good point and something Gettleman needs to fix starting now...  
QB Snacks : 4/13/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13912747 the mike said:
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This is a key driver in the precipitous talent drain during Reese's tenure. You simply have to hit on the majority of your selections in the top hundred picks in the draft, especially guys in the third round. We have had virtually no contribution whatsoever from third round draft picks over the last decade. And each of our super bowl runs was driven by huge contributions from some of these guys...

2008 #95 Mario Manningham
2007 #81 Jay Alford
2005 #74 Justin Tuck
1987 #83 Stephen Baker
1984 #59 Jeff Hostetler
1983 #70 Karl Nelson



Jay alford huge contribution? Stop. Guy was a total bust who happened to get a sack in a sb
RE: this is why Reese/ Ross are gone  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/13/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 13912873 Paulie Walnuts said:
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last 7 years have been mostly misses


That's not the reason. #woketimes

- David in LA
One thing about the 3rd rd this year  
DavidinBMNY : 4/14/2018 7:54 am : link
We have 2 high 3rd rd picks. I think both are before 70. If we keep those picks at that spot I think there's a good shot 1 of them will be used on a CB and Gettleman has been decent with CB's.
What are you talking about?  
twostepgiants : 4/14/2018 10:36 am : link
We landed the great Davis Webb in the 3rd round.

He is the future of the franchise.

Havenít you heard? Its all over BBI.
RE: What are you talking about?  
Sarcastic Sam : 4/14/2018 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13913927 twostepgiants said:
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We landed the great Davis Webb in the 3rd round.

He is the future of the franchise.

Havenít you heard? Its all over BBI.


Davis Webb reminds me of Joe Montana. They have very similar smiles.
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