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Bleacher Report Article on Eric Reid...

Capt. Don : 4/13/2018 12:31 pm
There was a lively discussion the other day on the subject and I happened upon this article on BR today.

I know NO ONE with asshat info relating to the Giants but I do know a West Coast guy with connections and he says that Reid was BY FAR the best safety available in FA and in his opinion there is no other explanation than it is because of the kneeling. He said it was because Reid was the first to embrace Kaepernick - that is the difference between him and other guys who kneeled but still got signed.

He was almost over the top in explaining how great of a locker room guy Reid is as well as a player.
Lonk - ( New Window )
I still say it comes down to money  
Giantsfan79 : 4/13/2018 12:35 pm : link
Reid wants $7-8 million a year. If he dropped his demands a few million, I'd bet he's getting signed. As it stands now teams are content to see if they can get a cheap safety in the draft before looking at Reid.
Reid is looking for  
TommyWiseau : 4/13/2018 12:53 pm : link
8+ mil a year, a lot for a guy who has missed a bunch of games the last 2 years
I didn't see the conversation from the other day, but i could imagine  
Mellowmood92 : 4/13/2018 12:54 pm : link
it being "lively". There's no way to avoid the politics of the issue and personally I'm surrounded by and interact predominantly with like-minded individuals, so I don't have a good perspective of those who would support the fact that this player is still un-signed.

I just can't help but wonder if the Owners are entirely tone-deaf to their fan base, or if they truly believe that the majority - NOT the loudest, support black-balling a player for these actions.
So what if it is due to him kneeling?  
AnyoneButPhilly : 4/13/2018 1:00 pm : link
Ownership shouldn't be forced into offering this guy a job when his actions polarized the NFL fan base. People were boycotting the league and burning jerseys and season tickets over players kneeling.
I guess the loss of the money trumps  
SomeFan : 4/13/2018 1:01 pm : link
the kneeling as it should.
Here is the real bottom line...  
bw in dc : 4/13/2018 1:02 pm : link
Reid is an slightly above average S, in a weak free agency crop for safeties, seeking money that isn't commensurate with his skill or most teams' needs.

My guess is the kneeling thing is somewhat of a factor, but it's not the driving factor when you look at his total profile.
I would take a gamble on him  
prdave73 : 4/13/2018 1:08 pm : link
for sure if cheap. Giants should look into imo.
RE: I would take a gamble on him  
TMS : 4/13/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13913067 prdave73 said:
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for sure if cheap. Giants should look into imo.
Think DG and Abrams look into everybody. No news mean they did not like what they saw.
Giants do not have cap space for him  
ZogZerg : 4/13/2018 1:25 pm : link
Some of you act like you never heard of the cap and/or don't realize we have to pay big money to keep our own safety - Collins.
Theres a 3/22 interview with him that says he isnt kneeling anymore  
giant24 : 4/13/2018 1:25 pm : link
"Im just going to consider different ways to be active, different ways to bring awareness to the issues of this country and improve on the issues happening in this country, he said. I dont think it will be in the form of protesting during the anthem. I say during because its crazy that the narrative changed to we were protesting the anthem and that wasnt the case. I think were going to take a different approach to how were going to be active.
Eric Reid says he wont protest during the national anthem if an NFL team signs him - ( New Window )
RE: Theres a 3/22 interview with him that says he isnt kneeling anymore  
MetsAreBack : 4/13/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13913095 giant24 said:
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"Im just going to consider different ways to be active, different ways to bring awareness to the issues of this country and improve on the issues happening in this country, he said. I dont think it will be in the form of protesting during the anthem. I say during because its crazy that the narrative changed to we were protesting the anthem and that wasnt the case. I think were going to take a different approach to how were going to be active. - ( New Window )



Here's a thought, Eric..... protest on your own time, and not on your company's time ...and using the equity/media power they created, not you, to boot. I dont know why this is so difficult for these employees to understand... they just continue to get terrible advice.

I'm not in the owners meetings, but i have a really hard believing there is collusion going on here. With his salary demands plus all the media comments he is still making, a lot of teams probably prefer to give him a 'one year' prove it deal... up to Reid if he can live with that offer.
RE: Giants do not have cap space for him  
Jay on the Island : 4/13/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13913094 ZogZerg said:
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Some of you act like you never heard of the cap and/or don't realize we have to pay big money to keep our own safety - Collins.

This, They also need to sign the upcoming draft class and work out extensions for Beckham AND Collins. They aren't flush with cap room at the moment to begin with.
Im pretty sure I heard  
Tuckrule : 4/13/2018 3:56 pm : link
Bucky brooks say something about a lot of concussions
there are other safeties of his calibur  
madgiantscow009 : 4/13/2018 3:58 pm : link
not signed yet also. Lets wait until after the draft and see how things shake out.
RE: Here is the real bottom line...  
Brown Recluse : 4/13/2018 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13913055 bw in dc said:
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Reid is an slightly above average S, in a weak free agency crop for safeties, seeking money that isn't commensurate with his skill or most teams' needs.

My guess is the kneeling thing is somewhat of a factor, but it's not the driving factor when you look at his total profile.


Please stop being rational.
RE: Giants do not have cap space for him  
bw in dc : 4/13/2018 4:01 pm : link
In comment 13913094 ZogZerg said:
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Some of you act like you never heard of the cap and/or don't realize we have to pay big money to keep our own safety - Collins.


I'm not sure it's an act... ;)
I love when people say "company time"  
bceagle05 : 4/13/2018 4:01 pm : link
as if the NFL is some auto repair shop in Poughkeepsie.
RE: RE: Theres a 3/22 interview with him that says he isnt kneeling anymore  
JCin332 : 4/13/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13913228 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13913095 giant24 said:


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"Im just going to consider different ways to be active, different ways to bring awareness to the issues of this country and improve on the issues happening in this country, he said. I dont think it will be in the form of protesting during the anthem. I say during because its crazy that the narrative changed to we were protesting the anthem and that wasnt the case. I think were going to take a different approach to how were going to be active. - ( New Window )




Here's a thought, Eric..... protest on your own time, and not on your company's time ...and using the equity/media power they created, not you, to boot. I dont know why this is so difficult for these employees to understand... they just continue to get terrible advice.

I'm not in the owners meetings, but i have a really hard believing there is collusion going on here. With his salary demands plus all the media comments he is still making, a lot of teams probably prefer to give him a 'one year' prove it deal... up to Reid if he can live with that offer.


This
RE: I love when people say  
allstarjim : 4/13/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13913359 bceagle05 said:
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as if the NFL is some auto repair shop in Poughkeepsie.


You don't think that NFL teams are companies? They are...and I think it's people like you that miss that point when talking about this issue. A few years back Ozzie Guillen got fired as manager of the Marlins when he spoke of Castro and the Cuban regime in a positive light...in Miami. That hurt the company...had nothing to do with baseball. In fact, if it was an auto body repair shop in Poughkeepsie, Reid's actions might not have been nearly as damaging.

I've said many times on these threads  
bceagle05 : 4/13/2018 5:23 pm : link
that I'm sympathetic to the league and its teams - they're in an impossible spot and have mostly tried to meet players halfway. I brought up the auto repair shop because workers there - or any random business - don't have the power NFL players do. The NFL hasn't tried to restrict players from protesting on company time because it's a battle they'll lose, and they know it. That's it. Can they blacklist Kaep? Sure, he sucks anyway. Eric Reid? Good player, but maybe not worth the money and hassle. If Aaron Rodgers decided to sit during the anthem the Packers would have a La-Z-Boy recliner on the sidelines so he's comfortable.

If the NFL wants worker bees, fine, I'm all for it. All football all the time. Don't play the anthem, don't pimp these guys out in your communities, don't make them wear pink or olive drab socks to support your PR stunt of the week.
There isnt another S of his caliber out there  
KWALL2 : 4/13/2018 6:04 pm : link
Hes the best and can help in many ways because he can also play LB.

He said he would take his rookie deal salary in the 5s for 1 year.

If Giants were smart they would completely disregard the kneeling BS and try and sign him now at a discount.

He can play with Collins.
RE: There isn�t another S of his caliber out there  
madgiantscow009 : 4/13/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13913484 KWALL2 said:
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He�s the best and can help in many ways because he can also play LB.

He said he would take his rookie deal salary in the 5s for 1 year.

If Giants were smart they would completely disregard the kneeling BS and try and sign him now at a discount.

He can play with Collins.


sure there is.
RE: I love when people say  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/13/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13913359 bceagle05 said:
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as if the NFL is some auto repair shop in Poughkeepsie.


Good for you. Obtuse. Look it up
RE: There isnt another S of his caliber out there  
section125 : 4/13/2018 10:49 pm : link
In comment 13913484 KWALL2 said:
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Hes the best and can help in many ways because he can also play LB.

He said he would take his rookie deal salary in the 5s for 1 year.

If Giants were smart they would completely disregard the kneeling BS and try and sign him now at a discount.

He can play with Collins.


The Giants don't have enough money for the rookies or any camp fodder right now. Eric Reid is not signing for $2 mill per and that is about all the Giants have.
Giants Over The Cap - ( New Window )
I wonder whether any of you who are supporting teams  
yatqb : 4/13/2018 10:59 pm : link
choosing not to even audition Reid Or Kaepernick buy the proposition that this is somehow disrespecting our troops or ther country. And how many believe in the right to protest, and support "Black Lives Matter" since that is not done at an emplyer's place of business.

My sense is that there is a ton of hypocrisy here, and some "true Americans" don't really believe in the Constitution or Bill of Rights, unless those who protest have views congruent with yours.
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