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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/14/2018 3:23 pm
Dubs up early on Spurs.

Raptors-Wiz @ 5:30, Heat-76ers @ 8, & Pels-Blazers @ 10:30.

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I don't think Westbrook intentionally  
giantsfan44ab : 4/24/2018 9:26 am : link
goes out there caring about his stats, I think his ego distorts his view of how much of a positive impact he's actually making and never ceases to stop shooting bone-headed 3 pointers or tries to think the game at a high level. Once you prevent westbrook from getting to the rim every play, OKC becomes pretty easy to beat. Westbrook only looks for easy assists or pulls up for mid-range/long 3s. And it's pretty obvious you can't win many games in April with Westbrook as your primary ball-handler.
RE: If you say so  
dep026 : 4/24/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 13927754 UConn4523 said:
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I won't bother arguing, you seem convinced no matter what happens.


Coming out to the press vocally about making sure someone doesn’t get stats and playing like a complete buffoon last night backs my case up.

Russell is was and always will be about Russell. Durant saw it and left.
1 more game until  
giantsfan44ab : 4/24/2018 11:14 am : link
PG dawns the purple and gold.
RE: RE: If you say so  
Metnut : 4/24/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13927802 dep026 said:
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In comment 13927754 UConn4523 said:


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I won't bother arguing, you seem convinced no matter what happens.



Coming out to the press vocally about making sure someone doesn’t get stats and playing like a complete buffoon last night backs my case up.

Russell is was and always will be about Russell. Durant saw it and left.


I think George will leave OKC too rather than play with Westbrook long term. He seems like a tough guy to play with. Oladipo really took his game to another level this year also after getting away from Westbrook.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/24/2018 12:02 pm : link
PG is as good as gone. No chance in hell he sticks around in OKC.
OKC  
giantsfan44ab : 4/24/2018 12:15 pm : link
isn't a playoff team without George.
Unless it’s a trade  
dep026 : 4/24/2018 12:22 pm : link
Which OKC has no assets...

Who the hell is going to want to play with him? The answer is simple. No one.
Marcus Smart cleared to play  
giantsfan44ab : 4/24/2018 2:30 pm : link
John Henson ruled out, feels like MIL needs to win tonight to survive.

Josh Richardson might miss tonight, if so, Miami is probably finished tonight.
Did Westbrook specifically refer  
santacruzom : 4/24/2018 2:32 pm : link
to any actual Rubio statistics? I only read that he would "shut that shit down" or something, which I interpreted to mean, "I'm going to prevent him from having that kind of impact on the next game."

I mean, it's pretty baselessly cynical to just say that all he cares about is holding someone below a certain statistical accomplishment that would make the defender look bad.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/24/2018 7:21 pm : link
Amazing how good Tatum & Brown are at such young ages.
Boston has this series  
giantsfan44ab : 4/24/2018 8:11 pm : link
wrapped. Milwaukee’s offense is atrocious, just get a feeling like every half court possession has a bunch of wasted dribbles and will result in chucking a long 2. Despite how the team looks there is a gold mine of talent, should have their picking of a HC.
Is there a cuntier team..  
Chris in Philly : 4/24/2018 9:46 pm : link
than the Heat? What a bunch of bitches.
I give the Sixers credit for moving on and looking good in the series,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/25/2018 1:49 am : link
but the Miami Heat had to be the least talented of the 16 playoff teams.
Boston won’t be a tough out for Philly  
giantsfan44ab : 4/25/2018 10:07 am : link
But they’ve struggled to take Milwaukee out. It could be coasting for them to the finals, even if they get Cleveland on the way.
Never been a bigger Rubio fan  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 11:18 am : link
than tonight. Finish off the Thunder and watch the circus begin.

Cavs/Pacers series actually has been really good. Anyone else find it odd when the Cavs lose its because Lebron doesnt have enough but when Kyle Korver hit two huge threes in the last game to prevent them from going down 3-1, its barely mentioned in the media?

I hate the god damn media.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/25/2018 11:19 am : link
Expect to see a lot of Celts Sixers playoff matchups in the coming years.
If healthy  
giantsfan44ab : 4/25/2018 11:38 am : link
next year, Boston will field a lineup with 5 guys that will receive all star consideration, 3 of which have made All NBA teams. Oh and with Rozier and Morris coming off the bench.
RE: If healthy  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 13930400 giantsfan44ab said:
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next year, Boston will field a lineup with 5 guys that will receive all star consideration, 3 of which have made All NBA teams. Oh and with Rozier and Morris coming off the bench.


And if he loses to Philly, Boston will have to beat Simmons, Embiid, and Lebron.
or Kawhi maybe  
giantsfan44ab : 4/25/2018 12:23 pm : link
This is going to be one hell of a summer.

I would say

Lebron
George
Wall
Kawhi
Deandre Jordan

Are more likely to be on different teams then the same ones next year. Lillard could also be on there as well, he met with management already before this season.

Ripple effects if Lebron would probably lead to a K-love trade too.

Kemba and Bledsoe also look like trade candidates heading into next year.

Cousins could be picked up by some other team on the relatively cheap
You forgot next years 6th man award winner  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 12:27 pm : link
Derrick Rose will be a FA too :)
RE: You forgot next years 6th man award winner  
giantsfan44ab : 4/25/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13930562 dep026 said:
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Derrick Rose will be a FA too :)


I thought it was a forgone conclusion he was gonna get $15M a year and a starter role from thibs.
RE: RE: You forgot next years 6th man award winner  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13930613 giantsfan44ab said:
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Derrick Rose will be a FA too :)



I thought it was a forgone conclusion he was gonna get $15M a year and a starter role from thibs.


and play 40 minutes a night.
Collison is really bringing nothing to the Pacers this series  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 8:43 pm : link
Coaches are sometimes too loyal. Joseph or Oladipo is a better option at PG.
And typically the officials  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 9:43 pm : link
blow two easy calls to end this game.

Ball was NOT of Lebron.
Lebron goaltended Oladipo's layup.

Expect Lebron to win this at the buzzer.
As predictable as they come  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 9:44 pm : link
McMillian still an idiot coach. Why even let him catch the ball?
Awful defense  
illmatic : 4/25/2018 9:45 pm : link
by Indiana there. What the hell was that?
I mean seriously  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 9:46 pm : link
they didnt even deny him. They dont run a double. And kept a PF on him and Young doesnt foul with a foul to give.

Its why the East has sucked for years.
Thibs sticking with Gibson  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 9:51 pm : link
Mind numbing stupid.

RE: And typically the officials  
santacruzom : 4/25/2018 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13932026 dep026 said:
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blow two easy calls to end this game.

Ball was NOT of Lebron.
Lebron goaltended Oladipo's layup.

Expect Lebron to win this at the buzzer.


The goaltend was obvious at slow speed, but at regular speed that looked very close to 50/50, not an easy call. You think a 50/50 call isn't going LeBron's way, at the end of a playoff game, at home? It's not like he plays for the Warriors or something.
RE: RE: And typically the officials  
dep026 : 4/25/2018 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13932193 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13932026 dep026 said:


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blow two easy calls to end this game.

Ball was NOT of Lebron.
Lebron goaltended Oladipo's layup.

Expect Lebron to win this at the buzzer.



The goaltend was obvious at slow speed, but at regular speed that looked very close to 50/50, not an easy call. You think a 50/50 call isn't going LeBron's way, at the end of a playoff game, at home? It's not like he plays for the Warriors or something.


Refs get paid big bucks to get them right. Plus the ball wasn’t off Lebron earlier. Two pretty big calls. Still can’t ftho what McMillan was doing defensively at the end of the game.
Lebron is something else  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2018 11:12 pm : link
Pacers had a foul to give too. They really blew that.

17 turnovers, Oladipo with a terrible game, and they were still right there. Doesn’t speak well to the Cavs chances in the later rounds. But that was a pretty great ending. Just got to appreciate something like that
is Santa really  
MookGiants : 10:34 am : link
still beating the "Warriors never get any calls" drum?
LBJ is amazing.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10:36 am : link
.
.  
arcarsenal : 10:37 am : link
LeBron James isn't clutch.... or so I've read. :)
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10:51 am : link
I think we're looking at a Cavs 76ers ECF.

The Raptors just can't beat the Cavs.
.  
arcarsenal : 10:56 am : link
This Cavs team is pretty bad - it's just LeBron being LeBron. Without him I don't think that team even sniffs the playoffs. The roster around him is garbage.
They still have the Nets pick  
Kyle in NY : 10:59 am : link
which could be flipped into something useful. But for now, the Kyrie trade could not have worked out worse for them. There is no reliable second scoring option. Kyle Korver is their #2 guy right now.
RE: .  
giantsfan44ab : 11:07 am : link
In comment 13933194 arcarsenal said:
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This Cavs team is pretty bad - it's just LeBron being LeBron. Without him I don't think that team even sniffs the playoffs. The roster around him is garbage.


I mean any Cavs team ever you can say that about. Even with Kyrie, when Lebron hasn't played Cleveland has a like a .200 record.
Fun fact  
dep026 : 11:14 am : link
Derrick Rose shot 70% from 3 point range this playoffs. Golden State or Houston become viable options now for him....haha
RE: They still have the Nets pick  
dep026 : 11:16 am : link
In comment 13933202 Kyle in NY said:
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which could be flipped into something useful. But for now, the Kyrie trade could not have worked out worse for them. There is no reliable second scoring option. Kyle Korver is their #2 guy right now.


Isaiah Thomas was always extremely overrated. People foaming at the mouth at him from last year are now looking extremely foolished.
Can't be understated though  
Kyle in NY : 11:20 am : link
how much that hip injury affected Isaiah. He may have been overrated, but he was still a very good scorer. He is simply not the same player after that injury. I feel bad for the guy, he was heading for a big contract.
the idea was to surround LeBron  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11:20 am : link
with 3 and D guys. Cleveland got it half right. But who on the Cavs is a shutdown defender? LeBron is a great free safety but can't use up his energy to play lock-down defense on each possession because he runs the offense and led the league in minutes played in his fifteenth season (insane).

The Cavs have no shot this year at beating whomever emerges from the West (if they make it that far), and LeBron will take the heat for another Finals loss in that case.

But, man, is it still awesome to sit back and watch him run an offense and play basketball. As fans of athletics, the next generation is going to be jealous that we watched him for his entire career.
and I'll add  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11:22 am : link
that being a free safety in the NBA isn't the best strategy with the current spacing and volume of 3s taken.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 11:22 am : link
In comment 13933240 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13933194 arcarsenal said:


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This Cavs team is pretty bad - it's just LeBron being LeBron. Without him I don't think that team even sniffs the playoffs. The roster around him is garbage.



I mean any Cavs team ever you can say that about. Even with Kyrie, when Lebron hasn't played Cleveland has a like a .200 record.


Yeah, but Kyrie is world's better than anything else LeBron has there now or really has had there ever. He made a huge difference. LeBron is amazing but he can't carry this team all the way to a Championship.

The Isiah Thomas trade really did go terribly for them. He was a fantastic player before he got hurt.

I can't believe Jose Calderon is still in the LEAGUE let alone starting for a playoff team.
RE: Can't be understated though  
dep026 : 11:23 am : link
In comment 13933299 Kyle in NY said:
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how much that hip injury affected Isaiah. He may have been overrated, but he was still a very good scorer. He is simply not the same player after that injury. I feel bad for the guy, he was heading for a big contract.


He can score. But he needs the ball in his hands a lot to score. With Lebon, those numbers were going to drop, most likely dramatically. And with him not being able to play a lick of defense, he was always an odd pairing with Lebron.

Houston works because guys of like Gordon, Ariza, and Green can do more than just score. Well Green not as much. But Gorodn and Ariza are good defenders and Gordon can score than just shooting 3s.
Cavs defense  
Kyle in NY : 11:24 am : link
has been pretty decent in this round. Their adjustments on Oladipo have made a difference. Now I can't imagine that continuing against Golden State or Houston. But I do think much of their defensive issues were simply focus/effort issues during the regular season.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11:24 am : link
I too feel bad for Thomas. He was looking @ a max deal & now he'll have to settle for much, much less.

That's why I don't blame Leonard for not rushing back. It's a cutthroat business.
RE: Cavs defense  
dep026 : 11:27 am : link
In comment 13933324 Kyle in NY said:
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has been pretty decent in this round. Their adjustments on Oladipo have made a difference. Now I can't imagine that continuing against Golden State or Houston. But I do think much of their defensive issues were simply focus/effort issues during the regular season.


Ehhh...

Indiana really isnt that good though. haha. I mean they have no point guard. One guy who shoots it half way decently. And Turner kind of flat lined.

Lebron will beat Toronto because Toronto is Toronto. But the 76ers should be a fun series since Philly can score and not defend.
76ers would  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11:28 am : link
beat Cleveland.
Indy lives and dies by  
giantsfan44ab : 11:39 am : link
Oladipo. They're trapping him seemingly EVERY play as soon as he crosses mid court. It didn't work all that well the first two games, and trapping simmons is just flat out dumb considering how well Reddick and Saric can take advantage of being left wide open. Plus Simmons is 6'10" and can just pass right over a trap. Oh, and Embiid.

Indy has a pretty bright future, even though Boston/Philly are certainly outshining them. But at the end of the day, their 3 best players are are 25, 22 and 21 years old. If Indy had a true center that was a lob target and could rebound these traps would not nearly be as successful (thinking about Deandre Jordan in Indy). They start Turner and Thaddeus, neither of which are plus rebounder or true spacing threats, which hamstrings them especially at the end of games.
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