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Sean : 4/15/2018 2:15 pm
per Woj on Twitter. I would not like this hire, weíve already been down this road.
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Mike Woodson?  
Chris684 : 4/15/2018 2:26 pm : link
Is this a joke?

Whoís up next? Larry Brown?
Why do you not mention the other tweet?  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 2:35 pm : link
Knicks arefinalizing meetings with their top 3 candidates, fizdale, jackson and stackhouse
I've seen this  
Phil in LA : 4/15/2018 2:36 pm : link
show before. Nice plan. 2 ex Knicks coaches, 1 ex Knicks player (though Woodson is also an ex player) out 5 candidates or 6 if you count Blatt.
Van Gundy  
spike : 4/15/2018 2:41 pm : link
Brothers please
RE: Why do you not mention the other tweet?  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13914927 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks arefinalizing meetings with their top 3 candidates, fizdale, jackson and stackhouse


Hate to be that guy, but Woj's tweet described them as "three of the top candidates," not the top three. I hope Stackhouse and Blatt are the top candidates, with Wright as the wild card.
RE: Why do you not mention the other tweet?  
Sean : 4/15/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13914927 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks arefinalizing meetings with their top 3 candidates, fizdale, jackson and stackhouse


Man, you are a Knicks homer - but that isnít as news worthy imo as all of those names have been linked to the job for awhile now.
Sorry 3 OF the top candidates...  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 2:44 pm : link
And if people really thought the Knicks would not interview jackson I got a bridge to sell you...

I am glad they are interviewing a bunch of different guys and remember these guys can be interviewed to be assistants as well...
RE: RE: Why do you not mention the other tweet?  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13914938 Sean said:
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In comment 13914927 nygiants16 said:


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Knicks arefinalizing meetings with their top 3 candidates, fizdale, jackson and stackhouse



Man, you are a Knicks homer - but that isnít as news worthy imo as all of those names have been linked to the job for awhile now.


What did I say that was being homer?

And please tell us again how donnie Walsh did a good job please...

Man I must be a homer  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 2:48 pm : link
When I said I would be pissed if they hired jackson...

I must be a homer when I said van gundy should not be hired because it would feel like a band aid hire...

I must be a homer when I said donnie Walsh sucked as gm...

I must be a home because I said 2012 when they won 54 games was not a fluke and fun to watch..
Might be next up on the Undo Phil Reunion Tour  
ghost718 : 4/15/2018 2:51 pm : link
Hardaway jr and now Woodson

Just the other day these guys were using up every friendly term in the corporate hand book,and now this.
It's like Mills'  
Enzo : 4/15/2018 2:51 pm : link
rolodex has 5 names in it. Woody did some good things but he was completely over matched in the Pacers series. I'd like to think we can do better. Or at least get a guy who has the potential to be better.
RE: RE: RE: Why do you not mention the other tweet?  
Sean : 4/15/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13914940 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13914927 nygiants16 said:


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Knicks arefinalizing meetings with their top 3 candidates, fizdale, jackson and stackhouse



Man, you are a Knicks homer - but that isnít as news worthy imo as all of those names have been linked to the job for awhile now.



What did I say that was being homer?

And please tell us again how donnie Walsh did a good job please...


Donnie was brought in for 2010, the idea was to free up cap space for the 2010 FA class. He did that, but couldnít close unfortunately. In fact, I remember BBI being livid with the fact that Woj reported the optics of Donnie being in a wheelchair as a negative re: the sales pitch to LeBron. It was always about LeBron, everything from the DíAntoni hire onward was with an eye towards LeBron & the fans brought in.
Blatt interview set, says Woj.  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2018 2:55 pm : link
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RE: Blatt interview set, says Woj.  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13914954 bceagle05 said:
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Expected...

So right now, fizdale, stackhouse, jackson, blatt and Woodson all set...

Expected except Woodson, what is his contract situation with clippers?
Can someone  
Jon in NYC : 4/15/2018 3:01 pm : link
explain to me why people seem to be drooling over Fizdale?
RE: Can someone  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13914962 Jon in NYC said:
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explain to me why people seem to be drooling over Fizdale?


I think it is more the relationships he seems to have with players, everyone seems to love him and when he was fired Memphis got a lot of backlash...

That seems to be the big reason
RE: Man I must be a homer  
Sean : 4/15/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13914947 nygiants16 said:
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When I said I would be pissed if they hired jackson...

I must be a homer when I said van gundy should not be hired because it would feel like a band aid hire...

I must be a homer when I said donnie Walsh sucked as gm...

I must be a home because I said 2012 when they won 54 games was not a fluke and fun to watch..


My apologies. To your credit you are taking a wait and see approach with Perry. Iím not sold yet personally & I find it concerning that Steve Mills appears to have a job for life.
RE: RE: Man I must be a homer  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13914968 Sean said:
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In comment 13914947 nygiants16 said:


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When I said I would be pissed if they hired jackson...

I must be a homer when I said van gundy should not be hired because it would feel like a band aid hire...

I must be a homer when I said donnie Walsh sucked as gm...

I must be a home because I said 2012 when they won 54 games was not a fluke and fun to watch..



My apologies. To your credit you are taking a wait and see approach with Perry. Iím not sold yet personally & I find it concerning that Steve Mills appears to have a job for life.


Look do I take the positive spin absolutely, just the way I am with all my teams...

At this point if the Knicks go out and trade for a 32 year old over the hill player I would be livid..

They are talking patience let's see if they actually flow through
Will be interesting where phoenix goes  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 3:14 pm : link
That would be the job I would want if I was a young coach
Could Woodson be our defensive coach?  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/15/2018 4:30 pm : link
Monster upgrade to Rambis
It's just so sad  
arniefez : 4/15/2018 4:38 pm : link
There was a time that Knicks basketball was the most popular sport in NYC. The early 70's the mid 90's the Knicks were more important than any other team to most NYC fans. Now they've become a sad laughing stock for almost 2 decades and there's no hope it will ever get better. It's a NYC sporting tragedy.
Woodson was the guy who coached the Knicks to their  
mfsd : 4/15/2018 4:45 pm : link
only good season since Van Gundy in 2012-13.

But I agree with you guys, time for some new blood and a fresh approach, not a retread
The only sad thing about it  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2018 4:48 pm : link
is it took them so long to finally do what they're doing now - rebuild through the draft.
Seems kawhi is on his way out in San Antonio  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 4:50 pm : link
Popovich seems done with it, spears reporting Popovich needs Kawhi "people" to call and ask if he can come back
RE: Woodson was the guy who coached the Knicks to their  
ChaChing : 4/15/2018 5:22 pm : link
In comment 13915058 mfsd said:
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only good season since Van Gundy in 2012-13.

But I agree with you guys, time for some new blood and a fresh approach, not a retread

I overall agree - for me it's a BIG no to Woody, and we have to err on the side of new blood / understanding of the 'millennial player' if you will. Still as always I think it's about the sum of the parts. So for my part there's reason to buy into a Stackhouse, Wright type. Also think there's value to a Fizdale tho there's similarity to Woody the first time around. I want to like Jackson, but if the link below is right.........no

And I get the "JVG hasn't coached in a decade" comment, yet IMO he won't be the non-adaptive type tho he's made his mistakes. His NYK & Houston teams were run differently and he did the most with whatever he had - lots of injuries between his two best players in Yao & Tmac for ex but successful & fundamentally sound overall (like his NYK teams). Often got the most out of even less talented players IMO

The BIGGGGGEST part: he admits his mistakes and regrets leaving NY too soon, and seems to think - of all the MOST important things in NYK - playing nice w/ Dolan is something he needed to do better. This seems NOT a knock on ownership but a realization of what needs done in a consistently tough situation with JD on top. Doesn't matter if he loves / hates / respects - more important the next coach does this. Even Phil could not...waaaaaaaaay unlikely a new coach makes that happen. And we can always cut our losses on JVG if needed down the road. IMO worth the risk on a high profile & great coaching name, for good reason

Also I think he would be an awesome coach for a KP. D first, fundamentally sound, grinder about work ethic...currently even a team like GS plays great D, really just plays the game right overall. We need a coach who gets that

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from Woj:  
Enzo : 4/15/2018 7:22 pm : link
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wojespn on his podcast today said Knicks want a coach who its fans know and have a connection to and can get behind. This could explain some reasoning behind interest in Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Woodson -- ex-Knicks head coaches and player.

you know what fans want to get behind? A winning team. WTF kind of a connection to we have to Mark Jackson - who's most relevant moments as a Knick were 30 years ago?
RE: from Woj:  
Sean : 4/15/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13915156 Enzo said:
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wojespn on his podcast today said Knicks want a coach who its fans know and have a connection to and can get behind. This could explain some reasoning behind interest in Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Woodson -- ex-Knicks head coaches and player.


you know what fans want to get behind? A winning team. WTF kind of a connection to we have to Mark Jackson - who's most relevant moments as a Knick were 30 years ago?


Good grief we are even more fucked than I thought if this is true.
RE: from Woj:  
mfsd : 4/15/2018 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13915156 Enzo said:
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wojespn on his podcast today said Knicks want a coach who its fans know and have a connection to and can get behind. This could explain some reasoning behind interest in Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Woodson -- ex-Knicks head coaches and player.


you know what fans want to get behind? A winning team. WTF kind of a connection to we have to Mark Jackson - who's most relevant moments as a Knick were 30 years ago?


Amen. What a disheartening thought if thatís true.

Letís by all means bring back John Starks now and then so the fans can cheer for him and enjoy some 90s highlights. But can they please hire a coach whoís ready to coach a young team in todayís NBA?
As stupid as this sounds  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2018 8:00 pm : link
Maybe contacting guys like van Gundy and Woodson is to prove people dont hate coaching the Knicks? 2 for more coaches that want back in?

Or Woodson could be interviewed as a possible assistant head coach, especially if Knicks go with a guy like stackhouse?

Trying to rationalize a very random interview is hard...
Curious to see if Mark Jackson interviews anywhere else.  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2018 8:00 pm : link
I'm of the belief he'll never coach in the NBA again unless we hire him.

Just like Steve Mills and Allan Houston would never hold front office positions anywhere but here, and Joakim Noah wouldn't have gotten a long-term contract anywhere but here. And on and on...
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arcarsenal : 4/15/2018 8:01 pm : link
Round and round and round we go....

Mills and Perry  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2018 8:17 pm : link
said they wanted a coach who can connect with today's player, is intellectually curious (analytics) and understands he's part of a "team" with the front office. Jackson and Van Gundy display none of those qualities. If one of them gets the job, we'll know it's been done just to appease the masses.
Bad News  
TyreeHelmet : 4/15/2018 10:14 pm : link
I donít think any respectable NBA front office would be targeting Jackson or Woody for HC jobs.

Scott Perry has nothing to show heís a good GM. I have zero faith in this Mills/ Perry leadership.

I want Blatt  
PaulBlakeTSU : 4/15/2018 10:16 pm : link
so I would be quite disappointed if we hired Woodson
It was mentioned above..  
Sean : 4/15/2018 10:26 pm : link
but what other teams in the NBA would hire Steve Mills and/or Allan Houston to be on their front office staff? Dolanís hands are still all over this.
RE: It was mentioned above..  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 7:06 am : link
In comment 13915308 Sean said:
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but what other teams in the NBA would hire Steve Mills and/or Allan Houston to be on their front office staff? Dolanís hands are still all over this.


I dont think Houston is in front office anymore, could be wrong though...

I think Craig Robinson took his job, Perry hired a bunch of his own guys when he was hired
And. Not to sound to homerish  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 7:12 am : link
But woj said nothing close to what was said before...

He said the fans want a guy who they know and get behind, he said Knicks should find the right guy for them and not worry about who the fans know or want...

Said nothing like the Knicks are looking for someone who the fans know and like
Also could be a few reasons Woodson is getting interview  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 7:14 am : link
1. It doesn't hurt to interview him just like it doesn't hurt to interview jackson..

2. They could be doing his agent a favor by putting his name out there again to be a head coach..

3. It shows that a former coach would come work for Knicks again, when the perception is how awful the Knicks management are..

4. Could be interviewing him to see if he has any interest in being with Knicks as assistant to a young coach
Comments/ Interviews  
TyreeHelmet : 4/16/2018 11:55 am : link
The comments coming from Perry and Mills have me really worried about the off-season and their leadership. They keep directly referencing fans views and their interactions with them. The last thing I want my team to be worried about is pleasing or listening to fans. You know what all fans like? Winning. This on top of Woj's comments about the Knicks wanting the coach to have a connection to the coach.

And how about Mills preaching patience and "rebuilding the right way". So why did you sign Hardaway to that ridiculous deal? Why didn't you move Lee or O'Quinn at the deadline? The Willy trade?
I just have zero faith in Mills and Perry has proven zero to show he's a good GM. I still can't believe they gave up a 2nd round pick to sign this guy.

Here's the coaches I would be targeting:

Wright
Clifford
Budenholzer
Messina
Stackhouse
Monty Williams

RE: Comments/ Interviews  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13915873 TyreeHelmet said:
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The comments coming from Perry and Mills have me really worried about the off-season and their leadership. They keep directly referencing fans views and their interactions with them. The last thing I want my team to be worried about is pleasing or listening to fans. You know what all fans like? Winning. This on top of Woj's comments about the Knicks wanting the coach to have a connection to the coach.

And how about Mills preaching patience and "rebuilding the right way". So why did you sign Hardaway to that ridiculous deal? Why didn't you move Lee or O'Quinn at the deadline? The Willy trade?
I just have zero faith in Mills and Perry has proven zero to show he's a good GM. I still can't believe they gave up a 2nd round pick to sign this guy.

Here's the coaches I would be targeting:

Wright
Clifford
Budenholzer
Messina
Stackhouse
Monty Williams


Woj did not say the Knicks want to hire a guy who the fans have connections with...
RE: RE: Comments/ Interviews  
TyreeHelmet : 4/16/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13915909 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13915873 TyreeHelmet said:


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The comments coming from Perry and Mills have me really worried about the off-season and their leadership. They keep directly referencing fans views and their interactions with them. The last thing I want my team to be worried about is pleasing or listening to fans. You know what all fans like? Winning. This on top of Woj's comments about the Knicks wanting the coach to have a connection to the coach.

And how about Mills preaching patience and "rebuilding the right way". So why did you sign Hardaway to that ridiculous deal? Why didn't you move Lee or O'Quinn at the deadline? The Willy trade?
I just have zero faith in Mills and Perry has proven zero to show he's a good GM. I still can't believe they gave up a 2nd round pick to sign this guy.

Here's the coaches I would be targeting:

Wright
Clifford
Budenholzer
Messina
Stackhouse
Monty Williams




Woj did not say the Knicks want to hire a guy who the fans have connections with...


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.@wojespn on his podcast today said Knicks want a coach who its fans know and have a connection to and can get behind. This could explain some reasoning behind interest in Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Woodson -- ex-Knicks head coaches and player.
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arcarsenal : 4/16/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13915960 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 13915909 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13915873 TyreeHelmet said:


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The comments coming from Perry and Mills have me really worried about the off-season and their leadership. They keep directly referencing fans views and their interactions with them. The last thing I want my team to be worried about is pleasing or listening to fans. You know what all fans like? Winning. This on top of Woj's comments about the Knicks wanting the coach to have a connection to the coach.

And how about Mills preaching patience and "rebuilding the right way". So why did you sign Hardaway to that ridiculous deal? Why didn't you move Lee or O'Quinn at the deadline? The Willy trade?
I just have zero faith in Mills and Perry has proven zero to show he's a good GM. I still can't believe they gave up a 2nd round pick to sign this guy.

Here's the coaches I would be targeting:

Wright
Clifford
Budenholzer
Messina
Stackhouse
Monty Williams




Woj did not say the Knicks want to hire a guy who the fans have connections with...



Mike Vorkunov

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19h19 hours ago
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.@wojespn on his podcast today said Knicks want a coach who its fans know and have a connection to and can get behind. This could explain some reasoning behind interest in Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mike Woodson -- ex-Knicks head coaches and player.


How about hiring the best guy for the job instead of trying to spark fan nostalgia over winning one playoff series with Mike Woodson?

Everything this franchise does is so fucking backwards.
Not what woj said  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 12:46 pm : link
He said the fans want someone they know and connect with, he said Knicks should not listen to them and go for the right hire rather than someone who the fans want...

And he even said this not based on any information just his opinion
Mike Woodson is clearly being interviewed  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 12:47 pm : link
As a favor to Woodson and his agent..
Begley says  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 3:43 pm : link
Knicks have not shown interest in jeff van gundy..
RE: Begley says  
Enzo : 4/16/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13916249 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks have not shown interest in jeff van gundy..

makes me think the Knicks are just floating names to gauge fan/media reaction.
Mike Woodson...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2018 4:02 pm : link
Inspiring choice if there was one...
RE: Mike Woodson...  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13916283 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Inspiring choice if there was one...


I missed the part where he was hired
A lot of overreacting to names here.  
Heisenberg : 4/16/2018 4:48 pm : link
I still think it will be Blatt but won't react to names in the press, because it could all be bullshit.

It seems to me that Mills/Perry are being pretty thorough.
Always fun getting irritated at taking misquotes as facts.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/16/2018 5:00 pm : link
Not like the knicks have any credibility here, but why look for reasons to get upset. at least wait for them to actually do something to piss you off.
Im leaning  
Jon in NYC : 4/16/2018 5:06 pm : link
towards giving Stack a shot.
RE: Im leaning  
Jon in NYC : 4/16/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 13916377 Jon in NYC said:
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towards giving Stack a shot.


Not that my opinion matters or that I have a say.
RE: Im leaning  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13916377 Jon in NYC said:
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towards giving Stack a shot.


I am good with stack or blatt..
Yeah, I'm good with Stack of Blatt.  
bceagle05 : 4/16/2018 5:36 pm : link
In draft news, Wendell Carter officially declared (he had hinted this wasn't a sure thing). Add another name to the 8-12 range.
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