Assume Giants aren't taking Nelson or Mcglinchey in the draft - and the G-Men have weaknesses across the board at the O-Line-- what would be your Big Board order of the following players? And do you think any of the below will reach the 4th round? Assume that the Giants are drafting an OLine in rd 2 or rd 3. And probably more than one.
Here's my order - it is also based on needs of the Giants. I have Wynn and Smith 1/2 because of concern for both T and G. While I do feel a versatile c / g is important too more than just a guard. Can't say 100% Jones is a lock for the future. As a result versatility knocked Hernandez back. If we're certain of Jones for future years and we can sign him then Hernandez moves up. OFC only the Giants know about that.
1-- Wynn
2--- Smith
3--- Daniels-
4-- Ragnow
5-- Price
6-- Hernandez
6--- Crosby
7-- Rankins
8-- Miller
Damn-- I forgot Williams. Though I'm not very high on him. I'd put him ahead of Miller.
Any of the other guys I've mentioned do you see slipping to rd 4?
Can play guard as well as center, no sacks allowed in 41 straight games as a Razorback. Would be thrilled if we grabbed him at the top of the second round.
Now for smart teams without huge needs can grab a kid like Price and most likely plug him in as a Starter from game 1. With the shitty OL play from all over the league I expect to see a few of the guys people who think will be there in Rd 2 gone. Price and Hernandez could Be gone. Especially to a team like NE w multiple first round picks
That doesn't matter - Shumur had the experience coaching him. Who drafted him is irrelevant. Shurmur will have input in who gets drafted, especially on the OL and he had a very positive recent experience with a very similar player who was developed in the same system. A system that has developed a lot of other good OL recently. Including the OL they had at the top of their FA board.
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everything about him seems tailor made for what they are looking for - toughness, power, smarts, versatility - and on top of that Schurmur drafted his linemate last year as a key cog in turning around the MIN OL. At G I could see them having Hernandez about him from a pure power perspective, and it's possible they value 1 of the T's more like Crosby, but if I was guessing based on who I think they will like and who will most likely be there, I'd pick Price.
Any of the other guys I've mentioned do you see slipping to rd 4?
No idea but the odds say someone probably will. My guess is they take an interior OL at #34 because those guys are usually more plug and play but it's hard to predict. More than the rest I think Price and Hernandez fit what Gettleman is looking for.
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everything about him seems tailor made for what they are looking for - toughness, power, smarts, versatility - and on top of that Schurmur drafted his linemate last year as a key cog in turning around the MIN OL. At G I could see them having Hernandez about him from a pure power perspective, and it's possible they value 1 of the T's more like Crosby, but if I was guessing based on who I think they will like and who will most likely be there, I'd pick Price.
Any of the other guys I've mentioned do you see slipping to rd 4?
No idea but the odds say someone probably will. My guess is they take an interior OL at #34 because those guys are usually more plug and play but it's hard to predict. More than the rest I think Price and Hernandez fit what Gettleman is looking for.
I'm hopeful one will slip at least to our last pick of the 3rd rd.
As for playing inside I think everyone of them other than Miller and Crosby can play inside well enough. Though I'm also skeptical of Williams playing inside too.
Would really love it if Giants can pick up tow of these guys while securing a QB along with a DT that can play in the 3-4.
Something like this, Joey?
I agree all three will be gone. I also expect Hernandez to be gone and possibly Daniels and maybe Price. Though I think Price makes rd 2. I like him. I also like Smith and Ragnow and Rankin and others mentioned above too.
It's too bad - I would like one more of these guys to last for our 3rd rd pick.
Price isn't lasting to R3.
Something like this, Joey?
Perfect post and perfect choice.
You are going to love Google when it becomes available in Virginia. I hate spoilers, so I won't tell you what it does.
1) Q. Nelson OG R1
2) M. McGlinchey OT R1
3) C. Williams OT R1
4) T. Crosby OT/G R1,2
5) I. Wynn OG R2
6) B. Smith OT/G R2
7) W. Hernandez OG R2
8) M. Rankin OT/G R2,3
9) F. Ragnow OG R3
10) O. Brown OT R3,4
If any of these players are available AFTER the round listed above, I'm taking them as long as there isn't better value at another position. I would love to get Crosby or Wynn in 2nd round. B. Smith would be great get late in 2nd or 3rd, but not sure he lasts that long.
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If you put more information on who is who. We aren't all so well versed in every OL to know them by last name and then know school, first name, position, height, weight, etc. But your posts have mostly been shit so this fits right in.
You are going to love Google when it becomes available in Virginia. I hate spoilers, so I won't tell you what it does.
LOL!!!