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Worst first round draft pick by NYG

djstat : 4/15/2018 11:14 pm
I am torn between

Ron Dayne
Derek Brown
Thomas Lewis
William Joseph
David Wilson
Cedric Jones
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Dave Brown  
smshmth8690 : 4/15/2018 11:16 pm : link
Tyrone Wheatley
David Wilson  
jnoble : 4/15/2018 11:16 pm : link
...because he only lasted 2 seasons before having to retire. At least the other guys stuck around awhile
I left Dave Brown off  
djstat : 4/15/2018 11:17 pm : link
On technicality he was a 1st round supplimental draft choice. Wheatley should have been decent. Dan Reeves ruined him.
RE: Dave Brown  
jnoble : 4/15/2018 11:17 pm : link
In comment 13915339 smshmth8690 said:
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Tyrone Wheatley

I'm always going to think Brown could've been a decent QB if he had a better coaching staff and offense to work with
RE: David Wilson  
djstat : 4/15/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13915340 jnoble said:
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...because he only lasted 2 seasons before having to retire. At least the other guys stuck around awhile
. How long did Jones last? I can’t remember
RE: I left Dave Brown off  
jnoble : 4/15/2018 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13915341 djstat said:
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On technicality he was a 1st round supplimental draft choice. Wheatley should have been decent. Dan Reeves ruined him.

Wheatley didn't help his cause by being lazy and alienating teammates with his weird personality. His nickname in the locker room was "Enigma"
RE: RE: David Wilson  
jnoble : 4/15/2018 11:20 pm : link
In comment 13915343 djstat said:
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In comment 13915340 jnoble said:


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...because he only lasted 2 seasons before having to retire. At least the other guys stuck around awhile

. How long did Jones last? I can’t remember

He played for at least 4 seasons. I'm pretty sure he was on the 2000 Superbowl team
How About Rocky Thompson  
clatterbuck : 4/15/2018 11:23 pm : link
and Eldridge Small? Or the number 1 draft picks traded for Craig Morton? Some of the reasons for the 15 years of lousy football.
RE: RE: Dave Brown  
smshmth8690 : 4/15/2018 11:24 pm : link
In comment 13915342 jnoble said:
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In comment 13915339 smshmth8690 said:


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Tyrone Wheatley


I'm always going to think Brown could've been a decent QB if he had a better coaching staff and offense to work with


I tend to agree with that. I always loved the fact that he was a hometown kid, who grew up a Giants fan. Just didn't work out.
RE: How About Rocky Thompson  
the mike : 4/15/2018 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13915349 clatterbuck said:
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and Eldridge Small? Or the number 1 draft picks traded for Craig Morton? Some of the reasons for the 15 years of lousy football.



John Hicks and Gordon King...
went to a UM Football game with William Joseph  
DaddyM89 : 4/15/2018 11:33 pm : link
and a few other former players back in 2015, he was a total prick and overall a really shitty person. A lot of people don't realize he was also in jail. So between that and his shitty play thats my vote.
Jones is the worst.  
Oct86 : 4/15/2018 11:42 pm : link
I would vote for Cedric Jones. That was the 5th pick in the draft.

David Wilson definitely does not belong on the list. He looked good until he hurt his neck.
the worst first round pick is  
firedbytheboss : 4/15/2018 11:44 pm : link
Saquon Barkley
Too soon for Eli Apple?  
BrianLeonard23 : 4/15/2018 11:46 pm : link
Two years in, complete trash.
Dave Brown  
AcesUp : 4/15/2018 11:49 pm : link
Primarily because he was a supplemental pick, which means we were the highest bid in a blind auction and at least half the league didn't feel he was worth a 1st round pick. That says something, especially at QB.
including Wilson is crazy  
bluepepper : 4/15/2018 11:55 pm : link
As a rookie he averaged 5 yards a carry and scored 6 TD's. Got hurt early his second year. That's not a guy who couldn't play in the NFL. Injuries ruin a lot of careers.
Rocky Thompson!  
SterlingArcher : 4/15/2018 11:56 pm : link
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RE: Dave Brown  
jnoble : 4/16/2018 12:08 am : link
In comment 13915365 AcesUp said:
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Primarily because he was a supplemental pick, which means we were the highest bid in a blind auction and at least half the league didn't feel he was worth a 1st round pick. That says something, especially at QB.

I read not long ago that Belichick who was HC of Cleveland at the time was going to draft him if the Giants didn't
RE: including Wilson is crazy  
jnoble : 4/16/2018 12:09 am : link
In comment 13915366 bluepepper said:
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As a rookie he averaged 5 yards a carry and scored 6 TD's. Got hurt early his second year. That's not a guy who couldn't play in the NFL. Injuries ruin a lot of careers.

Its not his fault he had to retire after only two years but still, we spent a 1st rd on the guy and he was gone-o not long after
Derek Brown Career Stats  
Jimmy Googs : 4/16/2018 12:14 am : link
Receptions: 43
Receiving yards: 401
Touchdowns: 1

The guy was the 14th pick in the draft.

Those numbers are like what Witten did to us for 2 games per year...
Joe Don Looney  
Simms2McConkey : 4/16/2018 12:22 am : link
The whole article is worth the read, but here are the two most important paragraphs:

"Looney’s problems immediately carried over to his professional career. He refused to follow the Giants’ dress code. He left folks flabbergasted by ignoring the press. Sometimes he just plain didn’t show up for practice.

"After only 28 days, and before even so much as a preseason game, the Giants traded Looney to the Baltimore Colts for safety Andy Nelson and wide receiver R.C. Owens. Looney would become the problem of Colts head coach Don Shula."

I'd say alienating coaches and upper management enough to be traded less than a month after being traded 12th overall qualifies as the worst pick in team history.
Looney - ( New Window )
Taken, not Traded*  
Simms2McConkey : 4/16/2018 12:23 am : link
Dumb typo in last line, my apologies.
Ereck Flowers  
SHO'NUFF : 4/16/2018 12:38 am : link
might need to be added to this discussion.
Future worse pick...... According to some BBI'ers  
Canton : 4/16/2018 1:04 am : link
Saquon Barkley
RE: David Wilson  
allstarjim : 4/16/2018 1:49 am : link
In comment 13915340 jnoble said:
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...because he only lasted 2 seasons before having to retire. At least the other guys stuck around awhile


David Wilson was at least an All-Pro kick returner and made great plays in limited time. I don't even think he belongs on the list, and besides, he was 1 pick away from being a 2nd rounder...picked at 32 overall.

Cedric Jones was the 5th overall pick and a complete and total bust. He gets my vote...but before you get to Wilson, I would say Eric Moore, Thomas Lewis, Butch Woolfolk, Derek Brown, William Joseph, Tyrone Wheatley, and George Adams. All terrible, all worse players than Wilson and all taken higher. Cedric Jones is the worst.

Willie Anderson was a 3x All-Pro OT taken a few picks later at #10, Marvin Harrison picked a little later in the first round, and Ray Lewis also taken in the first round. If only Jonathan Ogden could've fallen one more spot. And there were many other good players in that draft, like Terry Glenn, Regan Upshaw, Eddie George, Duane Clemons, and Jerome Woods all taken in the first round. One of the best players in that draft was missed twice by just about every team, as Philadelphia drafted Brian Dawkins at the end of round 2.

Jones was a miserable pick to be taken at #5 overall, I don't even think it's close.

RE: David Wilson  
OC2.0 : 4/16/2018 2:15 am : link
In comment 13915340 jnoble said:
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...because he only lasted 2 seasons before having to retire. At least the other guys stuck around awhile



Get serious. A life threating injury makes him a bad pick? Jesus, smfh
Easily Dave Brown  
TDMaker85 : 4/16/2018 2:15 am : link
Set the franchise back for years. Plus we would have had a high pick had we not burned it on him in the supplemental.
Rocky  
TheBigCat : 4/16/2018 3:03 am : link
Thompson, Mic Drop!! Easily the worst
Not sure why the love for  
giantsFC : 4/16/2018 3:16 am : link
David “flip” Wilson
He made 3 plays. The rest of the time he was mediocre at best.

Derek Brown gets my vote. Though I wasn’t around as a fan for some of the train wrecks being discussed from earlier years.
Cedric Jones  
jeff57 : 4/16/2018 5:46 am : link
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After reading through this,it seems like  
TheMick7 : 4/16/2018 6:07 am : link
Jones vs Thompson.Rocky gave us, at the very least,a KR who was very good.I can't remember anything Jones did!
RE: including Wilson is crazy  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 4/16/2018 6:18 am : link
In comment 13915366 bluepepper said:
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As a rookie he averaged 5 yards a carry and scored 6 TD's. Got hurt early his second year. That's not a guy who couldn't play in the NFL. Injuries ruin a lot of careers.


Totally agree, the guy was an obj game breaker without the diva aspect. If the doctors missed something that's on them not Reese or Wilson.

And I was critical of the pick when it happened.
Wilson has no place on this list.  
JohnB : 4/16/2018 6:22 am : link
Jones is my #1. I hated the pick as soon as it was made.
,,,  
Chuck Q : 4/16/2018 6:40 am : link
Rocky Thompson 1971
Wow, we had a lot of crappy first round picks  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2018 6:46 am : link
Ron Dayne..

They should have gone Shaun Alexander, like I was screaming for weeks;)! 100tds!
RE: Derek Brown Career Stats  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/16/2018 6:59 am : link
In comment 13915372 Jimmy Googs said:
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Receptions: 43
Receiving yards: 401
Touchdowns: 1

The guy was the 14th pick in the draft.

Those numbers are like what Witten did to us for 2 games per year...


Give Brown a break, that's an unfair comparison, it's tough to play against NFL caliber LBs.
It depends on how you treat factors like draft position and injuries.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/16/2018 7:34 am : link
Tucker Frederickson was the #1 pick. After his rookie year, he was a shell of the player the Giants drafted. From an ROI standpoint, the worst was probably a top-five pick like him, John Hicks or Cedric Jones - although Frederickson and Hicks were reasonable picks at the time, and Jones was the result of picking fifth in a draft with four blue-chip players and one sociopathic running back.

The worst use of a first round pick was probably the Craig Morton trade. That was the #2 selection in 1975, which the Cowboys turned into Randy White. The fourth pick that year was Walter Payton. On the other hand, if the Giants had kept the pick, they might very well have taken Ken Huff or Mack Mitchell.
RE: Ereck Flowers  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 4/16/2018 7:48 am : link
In comment 13915380 SHO'NUFF said:
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might need to be added to this discussion.


No he doesn’t.
Comparing David Wilson to OBJ?  
Greg from LI : 4/16/2018 7:55 am : link
Now that's comedy.
RE: Cedric Jones  
Rjanyg : 4/16/2018 7:56 am : link
In comment 13915419 jeff57 said:
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I agree. Really wanted Simeon Rice but AZ knabed him at pick 3, Baltimore takes Ogden. Young then spends the 5th overall on a one eyed DE. I kept screaming please just take Ray Lewis. Nope. The one sweet thing is they took Amani Toomer in round 2 who I was praying for.

Still, Cedric Jones at pick 5 to me is the worst.
Chubb  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/16/2018 8:12 am : link
Is Cedric Jones-esque. Biggest bust or meh potential of all the blue chips.
And for worst first round pick, Jim in NH chooses....  
Jim in NH : 4/16/2018 8:27 am : link
Rocky Thompson.
Had..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/16/2018 8:29 am : link
to be Derek Brown. The guy really had no NFL career to speak of.

I've always been on the side of Dave Brown that thinks he takes too much shit. He was a starting calibre QB for several years, and was hampered by being part of the Jersey Broncos and Reeves.

Guy gave it his all and it wasn't like he had a supporting cast that he let down.
No one mentioned Jarrod Bunch?  
Ross : 4/16/2018 8:36 am : link
He was terrible..and a Full back in the first round?
I could argue  
section125 : 4/16/2018 8:37 am : link
Jones, Joseph or Thompson. But Rocky Thompson is my 1st choice.
Our 1959 first round pick (top 10), QB Lee Grosscup  
Big Blue '56 : 4/16/2018 8:39 am : link
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Actually Jarrod Bunch was pretty good in his limited playing time.  
Russ in Queens, NYC : 4/16/2018 8:50 am : link
Injuries did him in.
Jarrod Bunch and David Wilson are very similar cases.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/16/2018 9:08 am : link
The Giants selected both at the end of the first round, after winning a Super Bowl. Both showed promise, then suffered catastrophic injuries. I don't think either belongs on this list. The ideal picks would have been Brett Favre in 1991 (rather than Bunch, plus Dave Brown in the supplemental draft a year later) and Cordy Glenn in 2012. Hindsight is 20-20.
Very tough call with so many possibilities...  
the mike : 4/16/2018 9:15 am : link
These are all very good candidates and it is unfortunately a very tough call. And no doubt the Craig Morton trade could not have been more costly in terms of first round opportunities lost...

But if I have to select the worst three actual draft picks, it has to be based on both who they took AND who they missed! So a severe reach pick while leaving "HOF best player available talent" on the board. So Derek Brown and Ron Dayne, both of whom might have been top three, did not make the cut because there were no HOFers in the 1992 NFL draft and no HOFers after Dayne was selected in the 2000 NFL draft...

#3. 1995 Tyrone Wheatley (passed on three HOFers - Derrick Brooks, Curtis Martin, Terrell Davis)

#2. 1971 Rocky Thompson (passed on three HOFers - Jack Youngblood, Dan Dierdorf and Jack Ham)

#1. 1996 Cedric Jones (passed on four HOFers - (Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, Terrell Owens)
Re Jarrod Bunch,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/16/2018 9:18 am : link
I remember meeting and talking to Paul Zimmerman at a wine tasting around April of ‘91 after winning SB XXV. They actually had the ESPN draft on. I remember him saying after we took Bunch, “the rich just got richer, he’s a steal.”

Unfortunately, injuries did him in.
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