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NY Giants are a team on Dez's wish list

Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 1:22 pm
Dez Bryant says there is too much history for him to join the GB Packers, but appears to cite the Giants as a team he'd like to join. Weird.
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There is no doubt in my mind that Dez  
Keith : 4/16/2018 1:37 pm : link
can still put up some numbers. He's def not the same guy he used to be, but he's an awful fit for us. That being said, I think he'd be good in GB.
RE: I know he is close with Beckham  
Mr. Bungle : 4/16/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13916018 Keaton028 said:
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he may be will to take less to play with OBJ

That's not a reason to sign a guy.
I do too  
Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 1:39 pm : link
But he weirdly stated he doesn't foresee himself playing in GB "because too much history"....yet he likes NY whom he has played twice a year his whole career....really odd reasoning
RE: Keith  
Keith : 4/16/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13916041 Keaton028 said:
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I agree for the most part, however he may be better than Marshall. If the finances were close, it would be something to think about. Marshall has a few years on Bryant, and we've never seen Dez perform as a WR2. Just a fun thought on a slow news day.


1. The finances will never be close. We signed Marshall last year when we thought we were getting a guy like Dez. After last year, there is no shot BM plays under his current deal. I believe that the only way BM is back, is at a 1 year deal close to the min. Maybe 1-1.5/2M.

2. Dez does not view himself as a #2. Not to mention, we have Engram and Shep who will need looks. He won't get nearly enough looks to make him happy or to justify what he's going to get paid.

Out,  
oldog : 4/16/2018 1:40 pm : link
with Marshall, in with Dez.
Keith  
Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 1:42 pm : link
all good points. And I've already stated above you can't pay him top dollar because his issues with speed, route running, and drops last year. If he is seeking to be paid as a #1 there is no way you do it.
Honestly Keaton,  
Keith : 4/16/2018 1:45 pm : link
outside of something around the vet min(we both know that won't happen), I don't see how he's even worth a shot. Last years lockerroom was a sh*tshow. I understand that the main reason was the HC and he's now gone, but do we really want to add that personality into the lockerroom? I don't.
big no thanks.  
Victor in CT : 4/16/2018 1:49 pm : link
..........
It's complex.  
Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 1:50 pm : link
If McAdoo and Reese were still at the helm I would absolutely say no. However, I am interested to see the type of ship Shurmur and Gettleman run. For what its worth Eli Apple seems eager to redeem himself on social media lately, and Beckham showed up at voluntary workouts (obviously best for contract talks)...

Its too early to tell, but maybe these guys create a lockerroom culture where they can get these guys to behave and be a positive. It is admittedly risky, and Bryant is probably not worth the risk, but I see our new regime having a much better handle on personalities than the old regime.
Well,  
Keith : 4/16/2018 1:51 pm : link
they certainly can't be worse.
I think its been a couple years  
Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 1:55 pm : link
since we have seen the Giants have a dynamic offense, so these enticing free agents have me curious two weeks before the draft. CJ Anderson and Dez Bryant have just been freed up, two players that are better than J-Stewart and Brandon Marshall who occupy roster spots on our team. Now, obviously finances and chemistry play a huge role in roster building, but being a fan I am just having visions of a Beckham, Bryant, Barkley, Anderson, Engram, Shep offense.

Fun exercise on a slow news day, like I said..
That's all they need  
jeff57 : 4/16/2018 1:56 pm : link
Bryant and Beckham? Spells trouble.
Dez will not fix much  
BigBlueHens : 4/16/2018 1:58 pm : link
We still need an offensive line. The past couple years we have talked in the offseason about having all these weapons, but still can't put up points.

I rather not be an all name team, just win some football games.
Can he play...  
M.S. : 4/16/2018 1:59 pm : link

...right tackle?
We still haven't seen a healthy OBJ  
Keith : 4/16/2018 2:00 pm : link
with Engram and a more seasoned Shepard. They can be dynamic themselves if the OL and QB can do their jobs.
Yeah, not happening  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2018 2:00 pm : link
It's the skins or a non NFC East team.
Dez would be the perfect compliment to Brandon Marshall.  
TC : 4/16/2018 2:02 pm : link
They could take breaks together.
I wouldn't hate a low ball 1year prove it deal w/ a second year option  
Motley Two : 4/16/2018 2:02 pm : link
But only after an extensive interview & workout process

Dez vs Marshall vs possible Draft pick  
George from PA : 4/16/2018 2:02 pm : link
The Giants still need a reliable #2. Dez would qualify. Although, he has lost a step and have issues, but his dropoff has more to do with Dak, imo.

I am not even sure if Marshall is a guarentee.....

I feel the draft might an impact which way they go.

Dez is far more likely to end up in Washington
I would just love the sadness of Cowboys fans if this happened.  
Keaton028 : 4/16/2018 2:06 pm : link
Going into Jerruh World week 1 (you know it's going to happen) would be extremely interesting
Fact: has never been the same since the foot injury  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/16/2018 2:06 pm : link
It's really that simple. His movement skills and explosion are diminished and never coming back. We've all seen this with dozens of stars yet fans still think it will be different.
RE: Dez vs Marshall vs possible Draft pick  
Motley Two : 4/16/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13916098 George from PA said:
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The Giants still need a reliable #2. Dez would qualify. Although, he has lost a step and have issues, but his dropoff has more to do with Dak, imo.

I am not even sure if Marshall is a guarentee.....

I feel the draft might an impact which way they go.

Dez is far more likely to end up in Washington



That's part of my thinking too. I'm not enamored with anybody beyond OBJ & Shep and I think they should focus Shep 100% on the slot.

I like having flexibility with draft picks, if one ends up being a WR that's fine. If they are transitioning to the 3-4 defense, then you're adding LB to the list of Secondary, Oline & Dline that always want to be adding bodies to.
Dez is/was a fantasy superstar  
NoPeanutz : 4/16/2018 2:25 pm : link
a true flashy Cowboy who makes a lot of noise, gets headlines off the field and puts asses in the seats. If he has anything left in the tank, he would still be in Dallas (where they only care about ripping tickets, and not winning games).
The fact that Jerrah was willing to let this sideshow walk away is confirmation enough that he is done.
RE: Dan Snyder can never resist shiny things.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/16/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13916016 TheManUpstairs said:
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I gotta think the Skins are in the mix.


Dez is a Snyder guy.
I'm hoping that we end up with someone better than  
Ira : 4/16/2018 3:00 pm : link
Marshall or Bryant playing opposite OBJ.
When I first found out that he was being released...  
T-Bone : 4/16/2018 3:11 pm : link
my very first thought was HELL NO. I have absolutely no interest in having Bryant join this team. Not now... not later... not ever.

But since then... I gotta admit... looking at this offensive skill position lineup IF he were aquirred and IF Barkley was drafted would be...

Manning... Beckham... Bryant... Shephard... Evans... Barkley

That might be the best offensive skill position group in the league.

Still not saying that I want him... but... damn if that group above doesn't look good. LOL!
T-bone, there is only one football  
Keith : 4/16/2018 3:14 pm : link
and our 37 year old QB had trouble getting the ball to anyone except his first read last year. It will never work and its unnecessary. OBJ, Engram and Shep is PLENTY for the passing game. Go draft a qb like any smart team would do and find one of these RB's mid draft to mix in with what we already have.
Got a chance to get a 29 year old big wideout at a discount  
HomerJones45 : 4/16/2018 3:14 pm : link
and people here want to pass. Do you want this team to be better or not?

His medical issue was his foot, not his legs. There is no reason to think he has lost much if anything. His big issue is Dak as a passer who is a limited passer compared to Romo or Eli.

I would personally drive Marshall to the airport if they would sign Dez. Get it done Dave.
Yeah, no explosion here - ( New Window )
RE: Out,  
BillT : 4/16/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13916053 oldog said:
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with Marshall, in with Dez.

Out with both.
RE: T-bone, there is only one football  
T-Bone : 4/16/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 13916200 Keith said:
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and our 37 year old QB had trouble getting the ball to anyone except his first read last year. It will never work and its unnecessary. OBJ, Engram and Shep is PLENTY for the passing game. Go draft a qb like any smart team would do and find one of these RB's mid draft to mix in with what we already have.


Nothing wrong with adding more weaponry to the arsenal Keith.

And although I wouldn't be MAD if we went QB (especially if that QB is Rosen)... but I'm taking Barkley instead.
Lol,  
Keith : 4/16/2018 3:27 pm : link
you look at him making a contested slant catch and then running 40 yards without a defender in sight as proof that he's explosive? Go back to making up stats.
Dez  
Dragon : 4/16/2018 3:28 pm : link
In Giants Blue would be an insult to former Giants and fans there are some rules you just donít break no matter what. Letís stop picking up others trash especially trash that has always been against us in every way possible.
T-Bone,  
Keith : 4/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
there is when one of the guys is Dez Bryant who will not take less targets well. It's just a really bad idea. You don't need 4 bonaride passing targets.

Re Barkley: IMO, it would be a terrible decision to take a back at 2. Fix the line and its easy to find a back to have success.
RE: Dez  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13916222 Dragon said:
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In Giants Blue would be an insult to former Giants and fans there are some rules you just donít break no matter what. Letís stop picking up others trash especially trash that has always been against us in every way possible.


And what rules are you referring to?
RE: T-Bone,  
T-Bone : 4/16/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13916224 Keith said:
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there is when one of the guys is Dez Bryant who will not take less targets well. It's just a really bad idea. You don't need 4 bonaride passing targets.

Re Barkley: IMO, it would be a terrible decision to take a back at 2. Fix the line and its easy to find a back to have success.


Look... I'm not going to argue you too much in favor of adding him because, as I said, I'm not really all that fond of the idea. BUT... as I said... a offensive skill position group with him and Barkley added would be the best in the league IMO.

You have a right to that opinion... and both sides have presented their cases so many times I don't think there's a need for the two of us to start rehashing them. I prefer Barkley (but understand and would be ok with the idea of adding a QB)... you don't and think they need to add a QB at all cost... nothing wrong with two differing opinions on this and neither side can claim to be right for at least a few years from now.
But we do,  
Doomster : 4/16/2018 3:44 pm : link
need another outside WR.....

Every year, I hear we are all set for receivers.....we have not been set for receivers since 2011...

EE has to show he can take the next step, with a year of experience.....SS did not take that next step last season.....he has to this year....

OBj, until he has that new contract in his hands, might not be the OBj we expect....he will not take chances, and I doubt he plays hurt.....and he is not 100% until we see sharp cuts without losing speed....

And, as others have mentioned, without an OL that can pass protect and convert short yardage, this passing offense is not as sound as many think.....

As for Dez, maybe he comes with a something to prove attitude, or we may just be replacing Marshall with another Marshall....but Dez mad an average of 12M per in his last contract......how much is he willing to play for? I don't think the Giants can match what he wants....
Very true on all accounts.  
Keith : 4/16/2018 3:44 pm : link
I would like to point out that I am not all in on a QB. TO me its either QB or trade back(assuming we got a good offer). Those are our only 2 options, IMO.
I could never bring myself to root for him  
GiantsLaw : 4/16/2018 4:06 pm : link
ever
I would love this signing  
Rudy5757 : 4/16/2018 5:28 pm : link
1 year deal. He is looking to stick it to the Cowboys so I think he would be motivated. Dump Marshall and pick up Dez. Give him an incentive ladden deal. Wr is a need for us.
So if itís not about the money and he wants to be here  
BigBlue4You09 : 4/16/2018 5:38 pm : link
Sign him to the minimum and cut Marshall. We get a better receiver AND save money.
From the chatter on NFL radio  
mfsd : 4/16/2018 7:20 pm : link
it sounds like the Cowboys know Dezís body is breaking down
RE: From the chatter on NFL radio  
arcarsenal : 4/16/2018 7:27 pm : link
In comment 13916547 mfsd said:
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it sounds like the Cowboys know Dezís body is breaking down


It's not that hard to see it on the field. If he wasn't declining, they wouldn't be cutting bait. They have very little WR talent on that team right now.

Beasley is a very small dude who can't play outside, Terrance Williams sucks, Jason Witten is 80 years old, and Brice Butler isn't scaring anyone.
I think Dez could end up with the Giants on one condition.  
FStubbs : 4/16/2018 9:15 pm : link
He'd have to take far below his market value. The Giants could definitely use some insurance at the WR2 spot (and honestly, a little Beckham insurance juuuuust in case). If Dez is willing to do that for the opportunity to stick it to Dallas, I think he could be a good fit.
RE: I think Dez could end up with the Giants on one condition.  
mfsd : 4/16/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13916707 FStubbs said:
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He'd have to take far below his market value. The Giants could definitely use some insurance at the WR2 spot (and honestly, a little Beckham insurance juuuuust in case). If Dez is willing to do that for the opportunity to stick it to Dallas, I think he could be a good fit.


The other question that has to be asked about Dez - could we count on him having a good attitude and being a good locker room guy when making a lot less than what he things his market value is and getting the ball less than heís used to? Serious doubts about that
I dont want him anywhere near OBJ...  
EricJ : 4/16/2018 9:27 pm : link
If we are going to bring an old veteran in here I would rather it be someone like Larry Fitzgerald. Someone who would actually HELP OBJ learn how to be a true professional.
RE: I dont want him anywhere near OBJ...  
gmenatlarge : 4/17/2018 8:37 am : link
In comment 13916738 EricJ said:
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If we are going to bring an old veteran in here I would rather it be someone like Larry Fitzgerald. Someone who would actually HELP OBJ learn how to be a true professional.


Have to agree, can't imagine those two on the sidelines together.
Cheap, Replace Marshall  
Rong5611 : 4/17/2018 9:45 am : link
Only way I can see them doing it. That said, as has been stated, I can't see him being a good influence on OBJ either.
not a fit  
Ron Johnson : 4/17/2018 9:51 am : link
what we need in that spot is speed
dez has always been overrated as a #1  
GiantsFan84 : 4/17/2018 10:10 am : link
he has struggled against top CBs but feasted on other CBs. he's a perfect #2. price is the key.

i don't think prescott is very good in a traditional QB sense which affected dez's production
des  
tmage : 4/17/2018 11:23 pm : link
let him wish all he wants. big mouth and unreliable hands, especially when it counts? no thanks. pass.
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