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PFF's take on some generalities being tossed around

gogiants : 4/16/2018 2:02 pm
Interesting read. Includes take on

Saquon Barkley is a generational running back: False

Quenton Nelson is the best guard prospect in years: True

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I am not sure I trust their reviews....  
George from PA : 4/16/2018 2:15 pm : link
now, you are asking us to trust their projections.....ummmm.

but I do appreciate their statistical work
yea im kind of  
japanhead : 4/16/2018 2:19 pm : link
hoping they don't take barkley. think he's very overrated. my hope is they trade back to 5 or 12 and manage to snag nelson. i prefer a north/south between the tackles type RB. either that or take mayfield at 2, i think he'll be the best of the bunch if he can get the douche factor under control (questionable).
Looks like they got it right for a change  
Stan in LA : 4/16/2018 2:19 pm : link
Blind Squirrel, etc...
This comment  
sharpshooter66 : 4/16/2018 2:21 pm : link
is nitpicking at best

"Hes often too quick to look for the home run when a three or four-yard gain is there to be had, and this may lead to a bit too much dependence on his offensive line at the next level."

I have no idea who were going to draft but to suggest he camt be a consistent runner in the NFL because he got caught a couple times looking for a big play is asinine.
They are throwing cold water on Chubb  
twostepgiants : 4/16/2018 2:23 pm : link
As well
PFF  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/16/2018 2:26 pm : link
is trash.

You can't predict success in the NFL using analytics. It's not a 1 v 1 situation like in baseball with a pitcher v. a batter.

The scam they run is actually amazing in how they have people eating out of their hands.
Nelson is likely overrated  
ArcadeSlumlord : 4/16/2018 2:33 pm : link
... imho. Barkley will be a great pro.
opposite of Sy56 call. I'll take Sy's opinion over  
Victor in CT : 4/16/2018 2:38 pm : link
Purely For Fools any day.
RE: PFF  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 4/16/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13916132 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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is trash.

You can't predict success in the NFL using analytics. It's not a 1 v 1 situation like in baseball with a pitcher v. a batter.

The scam they run is actually amazing in how they have people eating out of their hands.


Didn't Cleveland go 1-27 and stuck with Hue Jackson with their analytics wiz kid GM. LMFAO!
PFF  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/16/2018 2:45 pm : link
Is often cited when it backs up one's opinion, but derided when it does not.

Personally, I think it's worthless trash.
Agree with LimerickGuy  
Strahan91 : 4/16/2018 2:47 pm : link
PFF grades each player on a pure snap basis. They don't take into account context like other players on the team, scheme, competition and they certainly don't even attempt to at all project how a player can develop and evolve. Hell, Carson Wentz was their 14th best prospect two years ago and they graded Buckner higher than Jalen Ramsey. It's just silly to make the assumption that the way a player played in his last year of college will be the player he'll be throughout his career.

Even PFF's NFL game grades while not perfect do a better job of telling some of the story than their draft grades.
RE: PFF  
Joey from GlenCove : 4/16/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13916132 ThatLimerickGuy said:
Quote:
is trash.

You can't predict success in the NFL using analytics. It's not a 1 v 1 situation like in baseball with a pitcher v. a batter.

The scam they run is actually amazing in how they have people eating out of their hands.


Its just additional data. Its not a be all end all
Interesting comments plus  
Dan Blue : 4/16/2018 5:10 pm : link
the only positives I've read about Lamar Jackson. Funny how you watch this kid play so many games at such a high level and no one thinks he can play. I guess we will all see sooner enough.
Shit, none of these guys are good  
ZogZerg : 4/16/2018 5:22 pm : link
We should trade back with the Bills...


JK
RE: Interesting comments plus  
OdellLovesOBJ : 4/16/2018 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13916385 Dan Blue said:
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the only positives I've read about Lamar Jackson. Funny how you watch this kid play so many games at such a high level and no one thinks he can play. I guess we will all see sooner enough.
I have to agree , I hope they are taking a closer look at him for a possible trade down because he would be the ideal candidate to learn from Shurmur and study for a year or two. Perhaps he has the same potential as Deshaun Watson and we can acquire more depth with the extra picks.
RE: RE: PFF  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/16/2018 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13916181 Joey from GlenCove said:
Quote:
In comment 13916132 ThatLimerickGuy said:


Quote:


is trash.

You can't predict success in the NFL using analytics. It's not a 1 v 1 situation like in baseball with a pitcher v. a batter.

The scam they run is actually amazing in how they have people eating out of their hands.



Its just additional data. Its not a be all end all


The data is useless though.
Not to stir the pot  
Simms : 4/16/2018 7:48 pm : link
But with a great OL , you have many options in the pass run game.
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