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SB 42: Why the hell did the Pats go for it on 4th down?

Knee of Theismann : 4/17/2018 1:25 am
First of all, was just thinking about the fact that the Strahan sack the play before was easily MS's biggest sack of his entire career. So great to know that our HOF defensive end's final sack was actually the the most important of his career. 3rd and manageable in field goal range, Strahan at 36 years old runs right around the RT and sacks Brady.

7:19 left in the 3rd quarter, 4th and 13, 7-3 ball game, would have been a 49 yard field goal. I think that play was the epitome of the Pats hubris at 18-0 and how it basically was part of their ultimate downfall in that game. I mean really, the way the game was going, points were hard to come by (I'm sure BB/TB couldn't believe this, considering they had gone the whole season walking up and down the field and averaging like 40 points per game). You don't pass on a sub-50-yard field goal in the Super Bowl, especially considering it was 4th and *13* AND your kicker was going to the damn pro bowl a week later. Pats ultimately lose by 3 points. I really don't think this is awful call by Belichek is talked about enough.

Why?  
GeorgeAdams33 : 4/17/2018 2:15 am : link
Arrogance
I never understood that call  
.McL. : 4/17/2018 2:26 am : link
I was thrilled with it at the time
RE: Why?  
DonQuixote : 4/17/2018 3:54 am : link
In comment 13916968 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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Arrogance


Yea. And they did i the same thing this year and it really cost them.
I guess they figured they'd gamble with the field position  
Route 9 : 4/17/2018 5:23 am : link
and tack on more points. Got greedy. I guess BB thought the Giants offense would remain idle and only remain with 3 points by the time the game was over.
Bury them  
Route 9 : 4/17/2018 5:24 am : link
!
Keep asking questions and you  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2018 7:11 am : link
Loose the other knee.
I never understood it but it comes down  
bradshaw44 : 4/17/2018 7:52 am : link
To, itís just who they are.
RE: RE: Why?  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/17/2018 8:00 am : link
In comment 13916973 DonQuixote said:
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Arrogance



Yea. And they did i the same thing this year and it really cost them.


That was my first thought too.
Because BB  
JonC : 4/17/2018 8:00 am : link
wanted the Giants to win the SB?
Didn't trust his kicker  
xman : 4/17/2018 8:11 am : link
and wind issues, if I remember incorrectly
RE: Didn't trust his kicker  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2018 8:13 am : link
In comment 13917017 xman said:
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and wind issues, if I remember incorrectly


It was indoors
The biggest headscratcher was  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2018 8:15 am : link
4th and 13 from the 30 and Brady throws into the endzone. Itís not as if Brady hadnít converted 13 yards for a first down on countless occasions in 2007 and throughout his career
RE: RE: Didn't trust his kicker  
Dave in PA : 4/17/2018 8:34 am : link
In comment 13917018 Big Blue '56 said:
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and wind issues, if I remember incorrectly



It was indoors
Technically heís correct
RE: RE: RE: Didn't trust his kicker  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2018 9:10 am : link
In comment 13917030 Dave in PA said:
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and wind issues, if I remember incorrectly



It was indoors

Technically heís correct


I donít think so. The roof at the Az stadium was closed
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/17/2018 9:18 am : link
Gostkowski was a second year guy & I'm not sure BB believed he could make that kick. Also, to be fair to BB, I would have made the same call with that offense. I'd have had more faith in TB12.
the math often says to go  
Metnut : 4/17/2018 9:21 am : link
for it on 4th down rather than punt or kick a long FG. The Pats go for it on 4th down more than other teams and they've had a ton long-term success .
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djstat : 4/17/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 13917089 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Gostkowski was a second year guy & I'm not sure BB believed he could make that kick. Also, to be fair to BB, I would have made the same call with that offense. I'd have had more faith in TB12.
TB12? Its Tom Brady, this BS of all of a sudden referring to him as TB12 makes me sick
" the epitome of the Pats hubris at 18-0 "  
x meadowlander : 4/17/2018 9:41 am : link
See, I thought the place their hubris did them in was the final drive.

Because EVERYONE knew there was WAY too much time left on the clock.

Send Moss deep on every play to draw safeties back, eat the field in 15-20 yard chunks and GET THE FIELD GOAL.

Look at the Alford sack - I can't find the .gif, but as I recall, mid range receivers on Brady's left were OPEN.

Yes, hubris absolutely did New England in that evening.

A perfect storm.

Best football fan experience of my life that night, really - has there been any point in watching since? We're never, ever gonna top that one.
Yes.  
Beezer : 4/17/2018 9:59 am : link
And yes, we will.
One word:  
BillKo : 4/17/2018 10:49 am : link
cocky.

"We're only going to score 17 points? Ok... ;)"
RE: Yes.  
x meadowlander : 4/17/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 13917169 Beezer said:
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And yes, we will.
How?

With a Field Goal kicking Mule? With George Plimpton at QB?

I can't imagine a better storyline than what 2007 turned into. A shitty season, followed by a playoff run of impossibles, to come down to those last drives, those last plays...

I still watch. I loved the remix of 2007 in 2011, it's been a great ride.

But for me, the big one was 07'. Can't imagine a better scenario than that. I don't even think going 19-0 would do it.

Because the David v Goliath shit is just so much more satisfying.
Why didn't Belichick call time out  
arniefez : 4/17/2018 12:02 pm : link
vs. Seattle. Why did he bench his best CB vs. the Eagles? One worked one didn't and people consider him the greatest coach in NFL history.
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