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2018 NFL Draft Preview - S

Sy'56 : 4/17/2018 8:54 am
1 – Derwin James – Florida State – 6’2/215

Grade: 90


Strong Points:

-Rare blend of size and speed to go with natural instincts
-Can be put in t multiple roles
-Downhill force that has legit sideline to sideline range in pursuit

Weak Points:

-Long legged which can make it difficult for him to fluidly change direction
-Flipping his hips doesn’t come natural for him
-Too often goes for knockout punch and won’t wrap up

Summary:

Junior entry. Missed almost all of 2016 with a knee injury. After watching him in 2015, I thought this kid would be the next Sean Taylor and that is a comparison I have ever really used before. Such a rare blend of tools and showed the knack to make plays all over the field The versatility he offers is unmatched and if the right defensive coordinator gets his hands on him, watch out. There are some movement issues in coverage however. I’m not sure I would fully trust him in deep coverage against receivers but that can be hidden a bit. He is an elite prospect.

NFL Comparison: Reshad Jones / MIA

2 – Minkah Fitzpatrick – Alabama – 6’0/204

Grade: 87


Strong Points:

-Versatility is through the roof, can credibly play any role in the secondary
-Pursues the action all over the field with proper angles and explosion
-Elite physical presence, really aggressive

Weak Points:

-More of a reaction player, doesn’t show natural flow in coverage
-Hips get stiff in man coverage
-Will over pursue and be susceptible to cutbacks

Summary:

Junior entry. Has been a three year contributor/starter for the best defense in college football. Fitzpatrick is known as “Nick Saban’s Son” on campus. His intangibles are top notch and they are paired with talent that is NFL ready right now. Some teams may view him as an outside corner while others see a nickel corner and safety. He could play anywhere in the secondary. Sometimes those players can be dangerous, however. His game still looks raw at times because there may not have been enough attention on specific skill sets. I think his best role is a safety that can spend most of his time near the line of scrimmage but will have no issues in coverage. Get this guy on the field and he will improve the defense right away.

NFL Comparison: Malcolm Jenkins / PHI

3 - Armani Watts – Texas A& M – 5’10/202

Grade: 80


Strong Points:

-Excels in both man and zone coverage when it comes to instincts and reaction speed
-Plays fast with his head on a swivel, easily alters his plans
-High level of production all four years

Weak Points

-Size and long speed are below average
-Too many missed tackles, needs more consistent technique
-Too much of an all or nothing approach

Summary:

Four year starter that has had some issues staying healthy over his career. At his size, durability is a concern at the next level and it did impact his grade a bit. Watts ended his career making a few All American teams. For some time, Watts was my favorite pure cover safety in the class. He has the instincts, easy moving lower half, and ball skills to be a major factor. The size is an issue, as is the inconsistent tackling style, but I still think he is a difference maker. His intangibles are top notch and the weaknesses in his game will be worked on. He is worth the gamble because this kid is going to make plays.

NFL Comparison: Jimmie Ward / SF

4 - Ronnie Harrison – Alabama -6’2/207

Grade: 78


Strong Points:

-Can change the outlook of a secondary week 1 with his bone jarring hits
-Rangy tackler that uses size and speed effectively
-Can plant his foot and burst, breaks on the ball and ball carrier in a blink

Weak Points:

-High hipped and stiff, not a good change of direction cover man
-Long speed and catch up speed are suspect
-Over pursues to the sideline, needs to contain his aggression

Summary:

Junior entry. 2 year starter that has led the Alabama defense over the past 2 years combined. The enforcer of the secondary, perhaps even the defense as a whole. Big time power and presence, he is the kind of guy that will strike fear in to NFL pass catchers over the middle. As a cover man himself, Harrison struggles to stick with his man. He allows separation because he lacks some fluidity in his hips. However when it comes to reaction speed in combination with his size, he can still impact the game in all phases. If he is used correctly, he is an impact guy right away.

NFL Comparison: TJ McDonald / MIA

5 - Damon Webb – Ohio State – 5’11/209

Grade: 78


Strong Points:

-Excellent range as a deep cover man, ,reaches the sideline in a blink
-Always moving in the right direction, first few steps are always productive
-A step ahead mentally, forecasts everything well

Weak Points:

-Falls under the desired size across the board
-Struggles to make an impact against tight ends in coverage
-Lacks pop as a tackler

Summary:

Fourth year senior that has started games at CB and S. The instincts are what jump off the screen here and it is arguably the most important trait I look for in a free safety. Webb has consistently shown the knack to anticipate throws and routes with the best of them. If I had to rank these safeties based on feel, Webb would be at the top. He lacks some of the desired tools, mainly size, but in a system where a true centerfielder is needed, he is a prized asset.

NFL Comparison: Rodney McLeod / PHI

6 - Marcus Allen – Penn State – 6’2/215

Grade: 78


Strong Points:

-Sure tackler, wraps up and hits hard consistently
-Very well timed with it comes to his leaps, lunges, and dives for ball and ball carrier
-High IQ player, very aware and assignment savvy

Weak Points:

-Too late to react to vertical routes, plays a lot of catch up
-Gets too grabby in coverage, needs to be more confident in his footwork
-Route recognition needs to be better

Summary:

3+ year starter. Led Penn State in solo tackles each of the past 2 years, a rare feat for a defensive back from that program. Allen was the leader of that defense with his ability to make big plays in big spots and his overall awareness of game situations. He was an extra coach on the field. He is a rangy tackler that can be relied on in space, but he needs to be somewhat protected in coverage. He has good-enough speed but the quick reactions and natural hip turn isn’t there. Can be a solid starter in the right situation.

NFL Comparison: Barry Church / JAC

7- Justin Reid – Stanford – 6’0/207

Grade: 76


Strong Points:

-Really good plant and burst movement, accelerates fast downhill
-Smart player, makes quick decisions and can put other players in place
-Plus ball skills in traffic, times his leaps and lunges well

Weak Points:

-Doesn’t flip his hips and get vertical fast enough
-Too much guess work in coverage, susceptible to big plays
-Can be looked off and faked routinely

Summary:

Junior entry. Brother of current free agent safety Eric Reid. Ended his career with a 2nd Team All American season. Some view this kid as a 1st rounder but I just haven’t seen him play consistently enough to put him anywhere near there. He has tools and he plays fast, but there is a lot of guess work with him. I value the natural flow and instincts at safety as much as anything and he doesn’t grade out well there. If you can hide that in your scheme, he can be solid.

NFL Comparison: Marcus Gilchrist / OAK

8 - Quin Blanding – Virginia - 6’2/207

Grade: 76


Strong Points:

-Recognizes route combinations consistently
-Light feet, very good body control gets him where he needs to be in a blink
-Reliable tackler in space

Weak Points:

-Long speed isn’t there, will have a hard time keeping pace with speed
-Doesn’t impact the ball carrier enough on tackles
-Can be outmuscled and out jumped in 50/50 situations

Summary:

Four year starter. All time leading tackler in UVA history. Blanding has been a highly touted, award winning safety for a few years now. He lacks the desired talent and ceiling but I don’t ever overlook safeties that produce a lot and play the game smart. He was head and shoulders above his opponents mentally. I think there is a spot for him somewhere, just wouldn’t count on him being a star.

NFL Comparison: Chris Conte / TB

9 - Tony Brown – Alabama – 6’0/199

Grade: 75


Strong Points:

-Top tier athlete that can playa physical, bad boy brand
-Sideline to sideline range, reacts fast and finishes
-Versatility all around, can be put in to multiple DB roles

Weak Points:

-Not a fluid mover when it comes to change of direction
-Lacks instincts and natural flow in coverage
-Has had some off field issues

Summary:

After being suspended for the first 4 games of 2016, Brown got in to the regular rotation wearing several hats. Some view him as a slot corner but I think he is better suited for safety. He doesn’t mirror quickness that well, but when he has some space to work with his can explode and burst in to the spot he needs to be. Brown, a All American track star, has tools that weren’t always put on display at Alabama. I actually think he would be higher-touted had he not been surrounded by so much talent at Alabama.

NFL Comparison: Tony Jefferson / BAL

10 - Deshon Elliot – Texas – 6’1/210

Grade: 75


Strong Points:

-Disciplined in deep coverage, maintains his position in relation to route runners
-Can play physical as a tackler
-Proved to be a ball hawk over his career

Weak Points:

-Too easily tricked by misdirection, play action, and look-offs
-Plays too high, lacks forward lean
-Balance and body control when playing the deep ball needs improvement

Summary:

Junior entry. After an All American season in 2015 as a freshman, the national spotlight got put on Elliot. Over the next two years, he never seemed to come close to those expectations. He ended up seeing his production and playing time go down a tad and there have been whispers of him not being a great team guy. Elliot has the tools and past production to give him the high ceiling label, but it’s been too long since I have seen any consistent high level play. Mid rounder that will have more potential than most drafted in that area.

NFL Comparison: Adrian Amos / CHI

11 - Jessie Bates – Wake Forest – 6’1/200

Grade: 74


Strong Points:

-Foot speed and ability to turn can be a major factor in deep coverage
-Very smart and instinctive, doesn’t waste time or steps
-Rangy against the run and pass, he is everywhere

Weak Points:

-Small frame that may not be handle downhill runners
-Lacks presence and power on contact
-Didn’t make enough plays on the ball

Summary:

Redshirt sophomore entry that surprised a lot of people with his declaration. He did have two strong years production wise with his ability to read the action and get involved consistently. He has the natural flow towards the action and foot speed to really get involved. But I question his frame and lack of power presence, something most will overlook when scouting safeties. I think he can be a solid player in time, but not early on.

NFL Comparison: Darian Thompson / NYG

12 - Godwin Iqwebuike – Northwestern – 5’11/213

Grade: 74


Strong Points:

-Long and productive career, a lot of experience and consistency
-Really well developed frame, good blend of power and agility
-Plants his foot and will burst in to his reads

Weak Points:

-Gets fooled badly by playaction and double routes
-Doesn’t bring his athleticism to plays on the ball
-Struggles to keep his head on a swivel in zone coverage

Summary:

Fifth year senior. One of the more consistent performers on the Northwestern defense for 4 straight seasons. Has been an All Big 10 performer 2 straight years. There are some out there that really like this kind, calling him a 2nd rounder. I can see why if you are looking for an extra run defender that can play the hybrid S/LB type role. He is a good tackler, shows range, and reacts well. But in coverage he never took the step up over the past couple years. He just looks a little lost and stiff out there. He has the athletic ability, but it doesn’t carry over enough. He will be an excellent special teamer and run defender, but he will be limited in coverage.

NFL Comparison: Kurt Coleman / NO

13 - Tray Matthews – Auburn – 6’1/213

Grade: 72


Strong Points:

-Versatile skill set, comfortable in multiple roles
-A mauler in the run game, he makes ball carriers feel his impact
-Rangy against the run, flies all over the place

Weak Points:

-Stiff hips in coverage, needs the extra step or two to change direction
-Struggles to consistently make plays on the ball
-Has dealt with shoulder issues which is a problem with the style he plays

Summary:

Fifth year senior. Began his career at Georgia and they were really excited about him. Made a few dumb mistakes and got kicked out of the program. He spent 3 years as a starting safety for the Tigers. He has shown major improvement with his character, he turned in to the leader of the Auburn defense. He is an excellent run defender, maybe one of the best among this group. He is a liability in coverage against WRs though. Poor man’s Fitzpatrick but one that can make an impact on special teams and run defense.

NFL Comparison: Jonathan Cyprien / JAC

14 - Van Smith – Clemson – 5’11/186

Grade: 71


Strong Points:

-Really efficiency mover with advanced footwork and fluid hips
-Plays bigger than his size, has toughness and grit
-Can shift in to the slot and cover receivers as well as some CBs

Weak Points:

-Falls well below the desired size for the position
-Struggles to wrap up ball carriers, too many missed tackles
-Didn’t make enough plays on the ball

Summary:

Junior entry. I was surprised he came out because another year in college could have thrown him in to Budda Baker territory if he showed the ability to make more plays in coverage. Smith is very small to the point where some teams won’t even look at him because of it. But rarely did I watch him and think it was a major issue. He is a tough, hard nosed defender that gets involved against the run often. Can he hold up? That’s the question. Smith didn’t make enough plays on the ball in coverage and some will say it is because of his size. He can be a package player early on but may have a very low ceiling. I still think there is some hidden nickel CB in him that could be a very good value.

NFL Comparison: Lamarcus Joyner / LAR

15 - Tracy Walker – Louisiana-Lafayette – 6’1/206

Grade: 70


Strong Points:

-Ideal measureables for the position with a frame that can handle more weight
-Quick twitch reactions to the offense, doesn’t waste time
-Played his best football against his toughest competition

Weak Points:

-Downhill-based, struggles to turn and run deep fluidly
-Lacks the natural and easy feel
-Will tackle high in space

Summary

Fifth year senior. Has led the program in interceptions each of the past 2 years and was their leading tackler in 2018. One of the top prospects coming out of the Sun Belt conference. Walker has my attention and I think my grade could have been a little higher on him had he moved better in deep coverage. As a downhill, reaction based defender, he has the goods. Really high ceiling here.

NFL Comparison: Jordan Power / BUF

16 – Rashaan Gaulden – Tennessee – 6’1/197 – GRADE: 70
17 - Josh Kalu – Nebraska – 6’0/203 – GRADE: 70
18 - Jeremy Reaves – South Alabama – 5’11/205 – GRADE: 70
19 - Tyree Robinson – Oregon – 6’2/202 – GRADE: 70
20 - Troy Apke – Penn State - 6’1/200 – GRADE - 69
21 - Kyle Quiero – Northwestern – 6’2/215 – GRADE: 67
22 - Tarvarius Moore – Southern Miss – 6’1/195 – GRADE: 67
23 - Jordan Whitehead – Pittsburgh – 5’10/198 – GRADE: 67
24 - Terrell Edmunds – Virginia Tech – 6’0/217 – GRADE: 67
25 - Tre Flowers – Oklahoma State – 6’3/202 – GRADE: 66

NYG APPROACH


When I look at the Giants defense, I note that I have been bothered by the lack of presence next to Landon Collins since he was drafted. While he has gotten off to a nice start to his career and I do view him as a long term leader on this defense, he would be much more productive with a playmaker next to him. One that can roam deep coverage and actually make plays on the ball. While I don’t consider his a major need, or even a secondary need for that matter, I wouldn’t pass on a big value if one presented itself. I am looking at that day 3 area if someone like Damon We bb was there. There are high ceiling guys available late, as well. As highly as I view Derwin James, he isn’t someone I would consider early because he is too similar to what Collins brings to the table.
Great stuff  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/17/2018 9:06 am : link
as usual Sy, thanks. Only QBs left
thank you  
V.I.G. : 4/17/2018 9:11 am : link
quite a drop off after the first 2. How would Eric Reid compare on this list?
SY great stuff  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/17/2018 9:31 am : link
If we were to trade dwon to 12 do you feel that both Minkah (less likely to drop) and/or Derwin (possible to be there) would complement LCs skillset well?

I think LC is a Troy Polamalu type who excels at attacking the LOS instead of retreating from it or trailing in coverage. He is also pretty good in zone but doesn't have elite CF sideline to sideline capability.

Would Minkah and/or Derwin potentially complement this skill set well in a Bettcher scheme?
RE: SY great stuff  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 4/17/2018 9:34 am : link
In comment 13917122 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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If we were to trade dwon to 12 do you feel that both Minkah (less likely to drop) and/or Derwin (possible to be there) would complement LCs skillset well?

I think LC is a Troy Polamalu type who excels at attacking the LOS instead of retreating from it or trailing in coverage. He is also pretty good in zone but doesn't have elite CF sideline to sideline capability.

Would Minkah and/or Derwin potentially complement this skill set well in a Bettcher scheme?


Sorry didn't get to read the summary at the bottom. Looks like you feel Derwin is too close to LC in skillset! I personally think Derwin is rangier than LC, just don't know if he can play the slot.
Thanks SY,  
barens : 4/17/2018 9:34 am : link
didn't Tony Brown play corner at Alabama? He has the speed too.
good job as usual Sy, these reviews are great!  
Victor in CT : 4/17/2018 9:42 am : link
Seems like a solid if unspectacular group after the 2 top guys. I agree they need a true CF-type to compliment Collins and let him blossom.
Armani Watts  
WillVAB : 4/17/2018 9:44 am : link
Is a guy I’ve liked since the fall. He’d be a great addition w LC and good value in the mid rounds.
Sy where would you play Fitzpatrick?  
est1986 : 4/17/2018 9:53 am : link
I think he would be best as an outside corner but I know he didn’t play that role all too much at Bama
Sy - question  
section125 : 4/17/2018 9:55 am : link
about grading. James has a 90 rating and then in weakness you point out his difficulty in flipping hips/change of direction and that he may have coverage issues, etc. To get a 90, he must be a virtual lock for All-Pro. So, are his weaknesses so minor and correctable that the rest of his game is beyond reproach? I see in many ratings that DBs are knocked down a bit because of lack of fluidity in change of direction or tight hips. In James, is it just a "nit-pick" or just a minor concern?

Appreciate all the write ups you do and have done. Thanks.
RE: thank you  
old man : 4/17/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 13917077 V.I.G. said:
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quite a drop off after the first 2. How would Eric Reid compare on this list?


+1.
I didn't think it would be nearly that disparate from 2 to 3, then even 3-4+. A bunch of guys I thought would be 80+, especially if DJ was 90, are in the upper 70s.
Great review, Sy!  
TC : 4/17/2018 11:11 am : link
Thanks you. I'd read about James before, but your evaluation confirms it!
Seems to me that if your using a money backer  
idiotsavant : 4/17/2018 11:25 am : link
His zone of response would be line of scrimmage back farther than your typical lb would/could have (Collins - start him a touch deeper). So you can move your up safety zone back a touch (I think Darian Thompson will improve and the D will improve)... So you could draft a top 4 or 5 safety as back,deep,free - whatever you want to call it... enabling that.

Other than that and based on Sy only, not looking this year, maybe move Blanding up a touch in your rankings.
If we do indeed trade down  
santacruzom : 4/17/2018 11:40 am : link
Part of me wants to acquire James or Fitzpatrick. Not only would it be a nice compliment to Collins, but it would be a good insurance policy in case Collins becomes yet another in a long line of players who tantalize us with early potential but either aren't playing with the Giants a few years later, or shouldn't be.
Natrell Jamerson  
Jay in Toronto : 4/17/2018 12:23 pm : link
Sy -- did you have a chance to evaluate him?

He came to the Badgers as a RB. Eventually played two seasons as a backup/3rd CB and last season moved to S. I think he really came on.

Thoughts?
If we can get a haul from Buffalo  
Knee of Theismann : 4/17/2018 2:23 pm : link
We'd still be guaranteed of getting a guy who is rated by Sy as an 85 or better at pick #12. Not advocating for this scenario, just sayin'.
sy, Marcus Allen...  
2cents : 4/17/2018 2:34 pm : link
how do you see a guy like Allen fitting in next to collins? im a huge psu fan and I love the leadership, tackling and big play ability (see link) but im a bit concerned with his coverage deep, do you see him growing into a true center field type? might be decent guy to target in the 3rd.
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RE: sy, Marcus Allen...  
Sy'56 : 4/17/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13917666 2cents said:
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how do you see a guy like Allen fitting in next to collins? im a huge psu fan and I love the leadership, tackling and big play ability (see link) but im a bit concerned with his coverage deep, do you see him growing into a true center field type? might be decent guy to target in the 3rd. Link - ( New Window )


I don't think is the ideal fit for him because he shouldn't be THE guy to roam dee coverage. Whoever plays next to Collins needs to be able to do that
RE: Sy - question  
Sy'56 : 4/17/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13917163 section125 said:
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about grading. James has a 90 rating and then in weakness you point out his difficulty in flipping hips/change of direction and that he may have coverage issues, etc. To get a 90, he must be a virtual lock for All-Pro. So, are his weaknesses so minor and correctable that the rest of his game is beyond reproach? I see in many ratings that DBs are knocked down a bit because of lack of fluidity in change of direction or tight hips. In James, is it just a "nit-pick" or just a minor concern?

Appreciate all the write ups you do and have done. Thanks.


His speed and instncs can somewhat make. for the extra step he needs to flip his hips. I mean if he had the fluidity of Mathieu, we are talking about the best S prospect ever. I think James is really good, but that that caliber.
RE: RE: Sy - question  
section125 : 4/17/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13917749 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13917163 section125 said:


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about grading. James has a 90 rating and then in weakness you point out his difficulty in flipping hips/change of direction and that he may have coverage issues, etc. To get a 90, he must be a virtual lock for All-Pro. So, are his weaknesses so minor and correctable that the rest of his game is beyond reproach? I see in many ratings that DBs are knocked down a bit because of lack of fluidity in change of direction or tight hips. In James, is it just a "nit-pick" or just a minor concern?

Appreciate all the write ups you do and have done. Thanks.



His speed and instncs can somewhat make. for the extra step he needs to flip his hips. I mean if he had the fluidity of Mathieu, we are talking about the best S prospect ever. I think James is really good, but that that caliber.


Appreciate it, thanks.
Sy’  
Stufftherun : 4/18/2018 8:55 am : link
I’m curious to know how you might have graded Darian Thompson both before his draft year and how that might stack up against his report card to date. Personally, I don’t think he’s the answer. He’s stiff, often late to the party and has whiffed on tackles too many times for my liking.
DT had great production in college ints wise  
idiotsavant : 4/18/2018 10:41 am : link
Giants have not had the individual stats INT leader since like 1926 or some shit.

Then, we've had a list of bizzare career crashes at S.

DT - rookie basically. But would any of that prevent me from drafting a great or upside safety? No. Draft away.

The Betch seems like the type to integrate players in a variety of ways, Collins can be multi-positional, bring it on, and if DT ends up only mediocre (he w be fine) then you still have the draftee and Collins.
Sy, quick question about Quin Blanding  
Greg from LI : 4/18/2018 11:30 am : link
There's a lot of chatter on UVA boards that Blanding, who is now up to 215, might have a better shot to be drafted higher if teams think he could bulk up a bit more to the 225-230 range and play LB. Thoughts?
RE: RE: sy, Marcus Allen...  
BigBlue2112 : 4/18/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13917746 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13917666 2cents said:


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how do you see a guy like Allen fitting in next to collins? im a huge psu fan and I love the leadership, tackling and big play ability (see link) but im a bit concerned with his coverage deep, do you see him growing into a true center field type? might be decent guy to target in the 3rd. Link - ( New Window )



I don't think is the ideal fit for him because he shouldn't be THE guy to roam dee coverage. Whoever plays next to Collins needs to be able to do that


I'm a big PSU fan and initially last season I thought I only noticed hearing his name non stop during broadcasts due to the famous name but in reality he was making a ton of plays all over. I do however agree in part with Sy's critiques. Spot on about not being THE centerfielder we'd need next to LC. Thanks Sy, keep up the awesome work/contributions. They're greatly appreciated.
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