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Dez wants to play for the Giants

nygfaninorlando : 4/17/2018 11:07 am
Article is on profootballtalk.com. For what it's worth, says Bryant would take less money to play for the Giants and the opportunity with Odell, Eli, etc. Will he play for the league minimum to get a chance to play the Cowboys twice a year? That's the big question. I don't see the Giants offering much more than league minimum and not sure they would want the potential distraction but with DG being the new sheriff in town, you never know. I do think Dez has more left in the tank and would be a better compliment then Brandon Marshall. Also think an offense of Odell, Dez, Shepard, Engram, Barkley with a revamped OL would do some serious damage.
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It's funny that the qualities in Dez  
Bill in UT : 4/17/2018 11:48 am : link
that are being trashed are pretty much the same that are admired or tolerated in Odell. Imo, actual Giants fans would love him if he played well, hate him otherwise.
Boggs  
Thegratefulhead : 4/17/2018 11:48 am : link
Wade Boggs is the anti Dez, that analogy made me almost vomit.
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ghost718 : 4/17/2018 11:59 am : link
I'd like to play for the Giants too  
RobCrossRiver56 : 4/17/2018 12:00 pm : link

It just aint happening
And this was an iconic Yankees moment  
Greg from LI : 4/17/2018 12:02 pm : link
It has been some time..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/17/2018 12:05 pm : link
since I was more disappointed in the way a giant looked on the field than Marshall. Probably have to go all the way back to Brian Mitchell.

He looked like he absolutely didn't want to be on the field and in his limited opportunities, he did squat.
If he's an upgrade over Marshall for cheaper, I'd take him in a minute  
mikeinbloomfield : 4/17/2018 12:15 pm : link
All I want is the Giants to win. This isn't life and death.

Plus, he seems extremely motivated to go off against a good team in our division.
Or like  
Doomster : 4/17/2018 12:16 pm : link
Actual Giant Fans would never entertain this.
x meadowlander : 11:10 am : link : reply
It's Wade Boggs playing fucking 3rd base for the Yankees.

Fuck no.


Roger Clemens pitching for the Yankees?
At league minimum I'd give him a chance....  
Fishmanjim57 : 4/17/2018 12:17 pm : link
Marshall needs to go, so replacing Marshall with Bryant will be a big upgrade. Shurmer may have a better WR group than McAdoo had with those guys, but it may be a problem with their huge egos.
A huge no!!!  
Ira : 4/17/2018 12:23 pm : link
For the last three years, Bryant's catch % has been around 50%. That's very bad. If we cut Marshall we need someone better opposite Beckham.
Anyone want to complain about  
Bill in UT : 4/17/2018 12:24 pm : link
Babe Ruth coming from the Red Sox?
RE: Anyone want to complain about  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13917431 Bill in UT said:
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Babe Ruth coming from the Red Sox?


Probably not... but Dez Bryant is most certainly not Babe Ruth.
An angry des with something to prove  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2018 12:33 pm : link
On a 1 year incentive deal,being guarded by teams 2nd and 3rd dbs yes please...


Bye marshall
I might hate Dallas enough...  
silverfox : 4/17/2018 12:35 pm : link
...to appreciate the possibility
After 1 game when OBJ catches 10 balls, Shepard 4,  
PatersonPlank : 4/17/2018 12:37 pm : link
and Dez 1, he will be bitching to the press and want to be traded.
Best hands right up there  
TMS : 4/17/2018 12:39 pm : link
with OBJ and in getting open one on one. Tough, tenacious guy on a mission . Just what we need to get back on track. Curious about what DG thinks on this offer. Talk about long ball threats with those two out there and Barkley, Shepard, Engram underneath. Exciting just thinking about it, if we can get our OL back on track. Can only double cover so many guys. Eli with time will destroy most defenses with those weapons. IMO.
RE: Best hands right up there  
2cents : 4/17/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13917452 TMS said:
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with OBJ and in getting open one on one. Tough, tenacious guy on a mission . Just what we need to get back on track. Curious about what DG thinks on this offer. Talk about long ball threats with those two out there and Barkley, Shepard, Engram underneath. Exciting just thinking about it, if we can get our OL back on track. Can only double cover so many guys. Eli with time will destroy most defenses with those weapons. IMO.



yikes closet Dez fan boy here? the last time i saw those hands "catch" anything it was back in 2014 and iirc that wasnt quite a catch... At vet minimum, as a upgrade over B marsh with something to prove? I absolutely would do it.

But the way you describe him we would be signing 2013-2014 Dez at a premium, not the slower, older, beat up 2018 version.
What is there not to like  
joeinpa : 4/17/2018 12:45 pm : link
about him catching a winning touchdown pass in Giants Blue at Cowboy Stadium.

For some guys it s about personalities, for others like me it s about the uniform. Dez becomes a Giants, I root for him.
RE: It's funny that the qualities in Dez  
section125 : 4/17/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13917374 Bill in UT said:
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that are being trashed are pretty much the same that are admired or tolerated in Odell. Imo, actual Giants fans would love him if he played well, hate him otherwise.


Dead wrong. Dez is a putz on and off the field. Odell has had a hand full of on field antics. Hi off field stuff is negligible, Even the Paris thing wasn't him and never seemed to move the needle. So he got some tail and she put it out there. Odell isn't Mother Theresa but he certainly isn't Dez.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 12:49 pm : link
It's crazy how many people here want Dez Bryant after all the fucking media nonsense we deal with w/ Beckham.

If you guys think it's unbearable now, adding Dez into the mix would be a million times worse.

It's great that he wants to stick it to the Cowboys - I hate that fucking team more than any team in the league. But we also play 14 other games that are really important.
I think Dez would be a great addition.  
Miamijints : 4/17/2018 12:49 pm : link
He is really good friends with OBJ and would know day one he is not THE guy. He is REALLY motivated to not only stick it to the Boys but to show everyone he still has it and at a 1yr prove it deal he will not only show it on the field, he will also show better maturity seeing how it would affect his pockets. Jerry Jones face when Dez throws up the X in a Giants uniform after a big score would be worth it to me. Plus we would match up with the Rams a lot better if we were playoff bound.
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nygiants16 : 4/17/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13917470 arcarsenal said:
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It's crazy how many people here want Dez Bryant after all the fucking media nonsense we deal with w/ Beckham.

If you guys think it's unbearable now, adding Dez into the mix would be a million times worse.

It's great that he wants to stick it to the Cowboys - I hate that fucking team more than any team in the league. But we also play 14 other games that are really important.


For me I block out all the dumb shit with the media and odell si it wouldn't bother me...

Plus of they win there will be no problems
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13917484 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13917470 arcarsenal said:


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It's crazy how many people here want Dez Bryant after all the fucking media nonsense we deal with w/ Beckham.

If you guys think it's unbearable now, adding Dez into the mix would be a million times worse.

It's great that he wants to stick it to the Cowboys - I hate that fucking team more than any team in the league. But we also play 14 other games that are really important.



For me I block out all the dumb shit with the media and odell si it wouldn't bother me...

Plus of they win there will be no problems


But if they don't....
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nygiants16 : 4/17/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13917491 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13917484 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13917470 arcarsenal said:


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It's crazy how many people here want Dez Bryant after all the fucking media nonsense we deal with w/ Beckham.

If you guys think it's unbearable now, adding Dez into the mix would be a million times worse.

It's great that he wants to stick it to the Cowboys - I hate that fucking team more than any team in the league. But we also play 14 other games that are really important.



For me I block out all the dumb shit with the media and odell si it wouldn't bother me...

Plus of they win there will be no problems



But if they don't....


Well then good thing it is a 1 year deal
DEZ  
Giantslifer : 4/17/2018 1:00 pm : link
The Giants should offer Dez the NFL minimum just to shut him up.
He's FINISHED.
Couldn't be any worse than  
illmatic : 4/17/2018 1:01 pm : link
Brandon Marshall was. He'd probably come cheaper than Marshall too.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 1:01 pm : link
See, I think the Beckham stuff is usually overblown - but it's hard to rationalize Dez' antics.

Just two years ago he trashed a state senators house. There was animal shit everywhere. Holes in the walls, garbage everywhere, damage, etc.

He's needed a chaperone to make sure he doesn't get into off field trouble.

Just in case anyone needs more of a reminder about what kind of person this is...


APRIL 2011: Dez is sued by two jewelers, claiming he didn’t pay for custom jewelry and tickets to sporting events totaling almost $575,000.

MAY 2011: Mentor Deion Sanders publicly cuts ties with Dez, saying “Everybody is worried. I think the Dallas Cowboys are more concerned than I am. I had to cut my umbilical cord with him, because a lot of things people do not know about.”

JULY 2011: Dez no-shows at a New Jersey sports memorabilia show for which he received – in exchange for a scheduled 2-hour autograph session – $10,000, 3 round-trip airline tickets, three hotel rooms and 80-mile limo ride to Atlantic City.

AUGUST 2011: Though rumors of a fight after a pre-season game at Cowboys Stadium with the mother of one of his two sons persist, no police report is filed.

JANUARY 2012: Dez is detained and questioned by Miami police after a fight involving rapper Lil’ Wayne at the famed South Beach Club LIV.

JUNE 2012: After having his driver’s license previously suspended for excessive traffic tickets, Dez is issued a conditional license by a Dallas County judge.

JULY 2012: Dez is arrested and charged with a Class A misdemeanor of domestic violence after an incident in DeSoto in which he allegedly slapped his mother, Angela.


No fucking thanks.
FINISHED!!!!  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2018 1:02 pm : link
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I hear the veal in DeSoto is slap yo mama good!  
Brown Recluse : 4/17/2018 1:05 pm : link
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Dez + the Meadowlands at playoff time...  
CT Charlie : 4/17/2018 1:08 pm : link
... no thanks.


RE: .  
2cents : 4/17/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13917498 arcarsenal said:
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See, I think the Beckham stuff is usually overblown - but it's hard to rationalize Dez' antics.

Just two years ago he trashed a state senators house. There was animal shit everywhere. Holes in the walls, garbage everywhere, damage, etc.

He's needed a chaperone to make sure he doesn't get into off field trouble.

Just in case anyone needs more of a reminder about what kind of person this is...


APRIL 2011: Dez is sued by two jewelers, claiming he didn’t pay for custom jewelry and tickets to sporting events totaling almost $575,000.

MAY 2011: Mentor Deion Sanders publicly cuts ties with Dez, saying “Everybody is worried. I think the Dallas Cowboys are more concerned than I am. I had to cut my umbilical cord with him, because a lot of things people do not know about.”

JULY 2011: Dez no-shows at a New Jersey sports memorabilia show for which he received – in exchange for a scheduled 2-hour autograph session – $10,000, 3 round-trip airline tickets, three hotel rooms and 80-mile limo ride to Atlantic City.

AUGUST 2011: Though rumors of a fight after a pre-season game at Cowboys Stadium with the mother of one of his two sons persist, no police report is filed.

JANUARY 2012: Dez is detained and questioned by Miami police after a fight involving rapper Lil’ Wayne at the famed South Beach Club LIV.

JUNE 2012: After having his driver’s license previously suspended for excessive traffic tickets, Dez is issued a conditional license by a Dallas County judge.

JULY 2012: Dez is arrested and charged with a Class A misdemeanor of domestic violence after an incident in DeSoto in which he allegedly slapped his mother, Angela.

No fucking thanks.



+1000 yell it louder for people in the back, one of the most hated players ive ever watched.

I was trying to be rational in saying he would be an upgrade over Marshall at Vet Min but i just got a lil acid reflux reading this and remembering what type of D bag this guy really is.
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T-Bone : 4/17/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13917517 2cents said:
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In comment 13917498 arcarsenal said:


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See, I think the Beckham stuff is usually overblown - but it's hard to rationalize Dez' antics.

Just two years ago he trashed a state senators house. There was animal shit everywhere. Holes in the walls, garbage everywhere, damage, etc.

He's needed a chaperone to make sure he doesn't get into off field trouble.

Just in case anyone needs more of a reminder about what kind of person this is...


APRIL 2011: Dez is sued by two jewelers, claiming he didn’t pay for custom jewelry and tickets to sporting events totaling almost $575,000.

MAY 2011: Mentor Deion Sanders publicly cuts ties with Dez, saying “Everybody is worried. I think the Dallas Cowboys are more concerned than I am. I had to cut my umbilical cord with him, because a lot of things people do not know about.”

JULY 2011: Dez no-shows at a New Jersey sports memorabilia show for which he received – in exchange for a scheduled 2-hour autograph session – $10,000, 3 round-trip airline tickets, three hotel rooms and 80-mile limo ride to Atlantic City.

AUGUST 2011: Though rumors of a fight after a pre-season game at Cowboys Stadium with the mother of one of his two sons persist, no police report is filed.

JANUARY 2012: Dez is detained and questioned by Miami police after a fight involving rapper Lil’ Wayne at the famed South Beach Club LIV.

JUNE 2012: After having his driver’s license previously suspended for excessive traffic tickets, Dez is issued a conditional license by a Dallas County judge.

JULY 2012: Dez is arrested and charged with a Class A misdemeanor of domestic violence after an incident in DeSoto in which he allegedly slapped his mother, Angela.

No fucking thanks.




+1000 yell it louder for people in the back, one of the most hated players ive ever watched.

I was trying to be rational in saying he would be an upgrade over Marshall at Vet Min but i just got a lil acid reflux reading this and remembering what type of D bag this guy really is.


LOL! I ain't gonna lie... like you, I was/am opposed to the guy but was slightly intrigued by the idea and might've been ok with it if he was signed.

But after reading that list... and knowing that it's not even a complete rundown of ALL his douchiness... yeah... I'm good with no Dez.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 1:23 pm : link
FWIW, I started like halfway down the list - there was a bunch more. I just figured pro-Dez people would say "this stuff is 8 years old, it doesn't matter now"

It's quite a list, though.

Everyone hated the way this locker room was last season and now you want this player in there. It makes no sense to me.

I'd rather take another shot on Brandon Marshall than deal with Dez Bryant here. Let him go to Washington and fight Josh Norman on the sidelines when things don't go their way.
I don't care that he was a Cowboy  
Mike from Ohio : 4/17/2018 1:25 pm : link
or that he has dropped off from where he was. The first doesn't matter to me and the second can be dealt with through the contract if he doesn't perform.

The problem is that the organization is trying to real our immature superstar hot-headed receiver in. Adding another immature hot head to the receiving core is not a great way to do that.

I think whatever positive could be realized by signing Dez at the league minimum would be quickly offset by the negative impact to Odell.
Dez,  
oldog : 4/17/2018 1:52 pm : link
for Marshall, and Eli can write again on the locker room wall.
RE: Dez,  
TMS : 4/17/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13917581 oldog said:
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for Marshall, and Eli can write again on the locker room wall.
You could be right. Lots of talent, and on a mission. Some guys change after a bad trip. We can always cut him lose. As Trump says "What do you have to lose ?
Would love to stick it to the Cowboys with Dez.  
wgenesis123 : 4/17/2018 3:00 pm : link
However it could be the Cowboys that stick it to the Giants with Dez. Probably would swing both ways, be interesting to see who gets the last laugh!
He slapped his Mother?  
RobCrossRiver56 : 4/17/2018 3:11 pm : link
That's messed up
Dez wants to play for anyone that will pay him  
djm : 4/17/2018 3:26 pm : link
He’s a jag now. Can’t beat good one on one coverage at all and doesn’t need to be doubled.
RE: An angry des with something to prove  
Dr. D : 4/17/2018 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13917446 nygiants16 said:
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On a 1 year incentive deal,being guarded by teams 2nd and 3rd dbs yes please...


Bye marshall

This is a pretty reasonable way of looking at it... well, don't know about the please part.

He hasn't looked good for a while, but he has faced teams best dbs and regularly double teamed. That won't be the case here.

I guess I could give the douchebag a chance.
I think something that hasn't  
M in VA : 4/17/2018 3:37 pm : link
been talked about enough is the QB. If the Giants think Eli is the starter for the immediate future, then fine. But a young QB having to deal with the personalities of Dez and OBJ could cause chaos.
It would appear as though the silence coming from the Giants  
Keith : 4/17/2018 4:31 pm : link
would indicate that they have no interest, right? If the Gmen made a call, even just to check on his asking price, that would probably have been made known by Dez's agent, no?
RE: Actual Giant Fans would never entertain this.  
FStubbs : 4/17/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13917293 x meadowlander said:
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It's Wade Boggs playing fucking 3rd base for the Yankees.

Fuck no.


It's not like he's Michael Irvin, Dirty Waters, or Lavar Arrington.

Oh wait, Lavar actually did play a few games for us.
RE: Actual Giant Fans would never entertain this.  
chopperhatch : 4/17/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13917293 x meadowlander said:
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It's Wade Boggs playing fucking 3rd base for the Yankees.

Fuck no.


Or Johnny Damon.
RE: After 1 game when OBJ catches 10 balls, Shepard 4,  
chopperhatch : 4/17/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13917451 PatersonPlank said:
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and Dez 1, he will be bitching to the press and want to be traded.



This MIGHT be the only draw back to DEZ. Heres the thing, hes no fool. He never once had a player on his side with ODB's ability. Or a slot guy the level of Shep's (dont even try with Beasley). I think Dez may have gotten tired of being used as a decoy.

I would welcome him to the Giants on a deal similar to Marshall's. The culture with NYG might be just what Dez needs rather than the circus that it always seems to be with Dallas. In the end, he was only a loud mouth and a bit immature. But with ODB, Engram and Shep we have our bets hedged against his acting up.
I'd rather have him then Marshall  
montanagiant : 4/17/2018 5:02 pm : link
If the deal was similar
If he'll play for the same 6 mil as Marshall  
Rflairr : 4/17/2018 5:05 pm : link
Why not? Thats a no brainer
RE: It's funny that the qualities in Dez  
TMS : 4/17/2018 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13917374 Bill in UT said:
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that are being trashed are pretty much the same that are admired or tolerated in Odell. Imo, actual Giants fans would love him if he played well, hate him otherwise.
Maybe DEZ will turn OBJ around or Visa Versa. but what a duo to have. Take my chances. They have both been beaten up by thier own actions and the press but are both FB payers that were the best at their positions that I have seen in quite while. Take the chance on talent and lets get ELI and the Giants another SB. MO
Many players were a disappointment last season ,,  
Bluesbreaker : 4/17/2018 9:58 pm : link
I hope its a wait and see with Marshall I think he has something to prove ,We have plenty of holes on the roster
if he came close to his 2015 self he would be a perfect fit
We need someone opposite Odell and he could use the size he
brings . Maybe he gets axed the moment he passes his physical but I am willing to cut him some slack because McCrapadoo was a disaster the offense looked like shit in the pre-season and then the injuries as the season wore on
it got worse ne never had enough time to get use to Eli or the offense in general .
This will be DGs call  
TMS : 4/18/2018 8:10 pm : link
but those two out here together with Barkley and a decent Ol would be worth the price of admission for me.
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