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NFT: New York Mets vs. Walgreens Nationals - Game 2 - Redemption

arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 11:37 am
Can we just burn that other fucking thread? I don't want to look at it anymore.

New day, fresh start.

Wheeler vs. Gio.

Cespedes has had success against Gio so he'll almost certainly be back in the lineup today.

Time to see what this team is made of and how they handle a little adversity. Everything's easy when you're winning. Now we've got to bounce back from a horrific loss.

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It's a veteran team, so I don' think they'll fold  
Section331 : 4/17/2018 11:40 am : link
at the first sign of adversity. Last night's loss was a tough one not only because of the circumstances (blowing a 5-run lead with 6 outs to go), but because it was the best pitching matchup we had for the series.

They stole one last night, let's steal one back.
I want to  
PatchoguePete : 4/17/2018 12:06 pm : link
puke
Last night was horrific  
allstarjim : 4/17/2018 1:30 pm : link
DeGrom vs Hellickson, you have to win that game.

The bullpen was horrific of course. The Blevins-Harper at bat was the crusher. Blevins has the advantage there and of course a great hitter was just able to poke one through.

Here is where I think Mickey screwed up, though.

Ramos comes in and strikes out Zimmerman. He then gives up a hit to Severino and walks Matt Reynolds, but at that point is still 6-4 and 2 outs with the bases loaded, and he brings in Familia to face Wilmer Difo.

Everyone knows Familia lets guys on when he first gets in the game. I would've let Ramos hang in there, who has gotten big outs before in tight jams. He was already on the mound, I think the better play is to let him work through it, go out there, tell him it's his inning, to settle down and throw strikes. Instead, Familia comes in, is struggling with his location, and with the bags loaded and blows the game.

The game was still salvageable if Ramos is allowed to get that third out in the 8th, IMO.

Today will be a big game...they can't let the bad feelings from last night snowball.
Christ on a cracker...can we leave all the bitching and moaning  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 1:37 pm : link
about last night's game to that thread? Let it go already, it's one damn game.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 1:46 pm : link
Just such an annoying loss for so many reasons.

If we beat 'em tonight, all is forgotten. If not, ugh...

Anyway. Yeah, let's turn the page and hope for the good Wheels tonight.

Fuck the Nationals.
RE: Christ on a cracker...can we leave all the bitching and moaning  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13917550 PhiPsi125 said:
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about last night's game to that thread? Let it go already, it's one damn game.


Lmao. You are killling me.
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DanMetroMan : 4/17/2018 2:36 pm : link


Tim Healey
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@timbhealey
Official: The Mets called up reliever Gerson Bautista from Double-A Binghamton. They optioned Hansel Robles to Triple-A Las Vegas.
Round and round  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 2:41 pm : link
The shuttle goes
whoa - unexpected and interesting call up  
Eric on Li : 4/17/2018 2:56 pm : link
looking forward to seeing him.
I didn't go near that thread. Figured  
Beezer : 4/17/2018 2:57 pm : link
it would be a shitshow.

Bottom line? If Mickey leaves deGrom in and he falters, he's criticized because of the bullpen's domination. As it turned out, it blew up.

It was a stinker. One game. It happens. In every successful season. Mickey had it right, post-game - "that's baseball."

Lots of vets. Guy starting is coming off a very strong first outing. No reason NOT to be optimistic.

LET'S GO!
One game?  
Beezer : 4/17/2018 2:58 pm : link
Hell. One inning.
RE: whoa - unexpected and interesting call up  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 3:11 pm : link
In comment 13917691 Eric on Li said:
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looking forward to seeing him.


Stick skinny, Mejia-lite hair, winds up and just whips the shit out of the ball. Helluva fastball. Loses his command though.
didn't see Jason Vargas  
Rory : 4/17/2018 3:12 pm : link
struck out 12 batters over six hitless innings during an intrasquad game yesterday. 82 pitches deep

Wheeler needs to pitch like a fucking savage tonight.
Biggest shitshow of an inning since...I can't even remember  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/17/2018 3:16 pm : link
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RE: didn't see Jason Vargas  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13917720 Rory said:
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struck out 12 batters over six hitless innings during an intrasquad game yesterday. 82 pitches deep

Wheeler needs to pitch like a fucking savage tonight.

Today. Same schedule as Wheels
Lineup yet?  
Chris684 : 4/17/2018 3:59 pm : link
..
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ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 4:03 pm : link
Mets Lineup

Asdrúbal Cabrera – 2B
Yoenis Céspedes – LF
Wilmer Flores – 1B
Todd Frazier – 3B
Jay Bruce – RF
Juan Lagares – CF
Tomás Nido – C
Zack Wheeler – RHP
Amed Rosario – SS
Nationals Lineup

Trea Turner – SS
Howie Kendrick – 2B
Bryce Harper – RF
Ryan Zimmerman – 1B
Moises Sierra – LF
Michael A. Taylor – CF
Wilmer Difo – 3B
Pedro Severino – C
Gio Gonzalez – LHP
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 4:18 pm : link
Eaton, Murphy and Rendon out of the lineup. Zimmerman batting .100 and Taylor and Turner dancing with .200. If the Mets don't step on the throat and pad some distance now, the allstar game is going to be an ugly affair for Mets fans.
The Nats are probably looking at Lagares, Nido, Rosario  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 4:26 pm : link
And Cespedes hitting .100 and thinking the same thing. Lol
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26.2 : 4/17/2018 4:35 pm : link
The Nats lineup is one that won't win many games. Nats need to get healthy.
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 4:36 pm : link
except Lageres is batting like .340, Nido isn't a starter and Rosario is like a .240 lifetime batter, so what were you expecting from him? Cespedes, is significantly underperforming. so you can expect that this is an impactful lowpoint to take advantage of. not really apples and oranges?
RE: The Nats are probably looking at Lagares, Nido, Rosario  
26.2 : 4/17/2018 4:36 pm : link
In comment 13917798 ZGiants98 said:
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And Cespedes hitting .100 and thinking the same thing. Lol


Nats fans aren't. Especially not Cespedes.
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PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13917818 CardinalX said:
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except Lageres is batting like .340, Nido isn't a starter and Rosario is like a .240 lifetime batter, so what were you expecting from him? Cespedes, is significantly underperforming. so you can expect that this is an impactful lowpoint to take advantage of. not really apples and oranges?


Lagares is a bench player that gets limited playing time...not a starter. Rosario is essentially a rookie who is supposed to be strong on the offensive end.
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PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13917791 CardinalX said:
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Eaton, Murphy and Rendon out of the lineup. Zimmerman batting .100 and Taylor and Turner dancing with .200. If the Mets don't step on the throat and pad some distance now, the allstar game is going to be an ugly affair for Mets fans.


Love the confidence. Nice to see you guys around finally after your first win against the Mets. I do hope you get your guys back soon. I guess that your guys excuse.

I'd hate to see what happens when the Mets actually start to hit. I'm going to save this post and see how things are around the all-star break.
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26.2 : 4/17/2018 5:22 pm : link
In comment 13917855 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13917791 CardinalX said:


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Eaton, Murphy and Rendon out of the lineup. Zimmerman batting .100 and Taylor and Turner dancing with .200. If the Mets don't step on the throat and pad some distance now, the allstar game is going to be an ugly affair for Mets fans.



Love the confidence. Nice to see you guys around finally after your first win against the Mets. I do hope you get your guys back soon. I guess that your guys excuse.

I'd hate to see what happens when the Mets actually start to hit. I'm going to save this post and see how things are around the all-star break.


I can assure you that Nats fans are confident of nothing right now. Except maybe when Scherzer takes the mound.
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jpennyva : 4/17/2018 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13917865 26.2 said:
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In comment 13917791 CardinalX said:


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Eaton, Murphy and Rendon out of the lineup. Zimmerman batting .100 and Taylor and Turner dancing with .200. If the Mets don't step on the throat and pad some distance now, the allstar game is going to be an ugly affair for Mets fans.



Love the confidence. Nice to see you guys around finally after your first win against the Mets. I do hope you get your guys back soon. I guess that your guys excuse.

I'd hate to see what happens when the Mets actually start to hit. I'm going to save this post and see how things are around the all-star break.



I can assure you that Nats fans are confident of nothing right now. Except maybe when Scherzer takes the mound.


Well, Gio has a record of something like 10-1 record at Citi Field so there may be more confidence than you think, especially after last night's win.
I think the reaction of last nights game is a good  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 5:42 pm : link
Indicator of the lack of confidence by Mets fans. However, I don’t think the outcome of the next two games will go very far in determining anything. I think there are a lot of improvements that can be made by both teams. All I’m hoping for is to be in the mix for the division by the end of the season, whoever that might be against.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 5:54 pm : link
Oh yay... the resident Nationals/Yankees fan is back... joy.
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CardinalX : 4/17/2018 6:22 pm : link
a 1 inning meltdown by the Mets bullpen isn't something to inspire confidence in the Nationals that were down 6-1 before that. my confidence hasn't wavered. If yoy doubt that Psi, i'll wager you straight up on who wins the division. loser makes a 100dollar donation to BBI. the Mets have a 5 game lead on the 4th place Nats. i'd say that puts you comfortably ahead right?
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:12 pm : link
.. and we're off!

Leadoff double for Turner.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:20 pm : link
So much for that adjustment.
WTF.  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:20 pm : link
Ugh.
Get a double play  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:20 pm : link
Zack. Get out of this. No feel for the ball right now it seems.
RE: Get a double play  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13917955 ZGiants98 said:
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Zack. Get out of this. No feel for the ball right now it seems.


Nice call, Z!
ASK and you shall receive  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:22 pm : link
NICE!
Lucky Zack.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 7:22 pm : link
Now stop walking batters and get to work!
Nats bail us out  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
But HES BACK

defense up the middle  
Eric on Li : 4/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
another subtle area where they've gone from weakness to strength this year. Little things like getting out of that inning unscathed add up.
RE: Nats bail us out  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13917963 Shecky said:
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But HES BACK



John Maine?
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:25 pm : link
I can definitely see the Wheeler/Maine comparison LOL.

It would be awesome if we could get to Gio and actually tag him up for once but I'm guessing we'll struggle as usual and have to hope we can run up his PC and get into the pen.
I always thought of Maine as more of a gamer than Wheeler  
Eric on Li : 4/17/2018 7:26 pm : link
just couldn't overcome the injuries.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:29 pm : link
Jesus.. Wilmer is slow.
Sorry for being too harsh on Maine  
Shecky : 4/17/2018 7:31 pm : link
Hope he gets the win tonight to finally surpass Homerun Heilman on the Mets career leaderboard.
RE: Sorry for being too harsh on Maine  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 13917970 Shecky said:
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Hope he gets the win tonight to finally surpass Homerun Heilman on the Mets career leaderboard.


Maine didnt have a tenth of the talent Wheeler has IMO. He had a cool rising fastball though!
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:38 pm : link
Much better inning for Wheels.
Nice quick inning for Wheeler  
ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:38 pm : link
Splendid. Can we hit Gio?
RE: Nice quick inning for Wheeler  
arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13917980 ZGiants98 said:
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Splendid. Can we hit Gio?


My guess is... no.
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arcarsenal : 4/17/2018 7:45 pm : link
Gio really nibbles against righties. He always sits outer half.
Can’t throw anyone out and can’t steal bases.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/17/2018 7:47 pm : link
Nice job at swinging at ball 4, Nido. Ugh.
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ZGiants98 : 4/17/2018 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13917818 CardinalX said:
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except Lageres is batting like .340, Nido isn't a starter and Rosario is like a .240 lifetime batter, so what were you expecting from him? Cespedes, is significantly underperforming. so you can expect that this is an impactful lowpoint to take advantage of. not really apples and oranges?


This is one of the dumbest responses Ive seen in some time. So Lagares is hitting .340 but dont point out his lifetime numbers. Rosario is really struggling but point out his lifetime numbers. Cespedes is significantly underperforming like ya know... MVP Zimmerman last year... and Nido isnt a starter because our starting catchers are injured like ya know... Murphy right now... but yeah... nothing to see here. Well done.
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